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- Echota, on 01/05/2009, -3/+98FTA:
The camera closes in on Sarah Palin speaking to young missionaries, vowing from the pulpit to do her part to implement God's will from the governor's office.
What she didn't tell worshippers gathered at the Wasilla Assembly of God church in her hometown was that her appearance that day came courtesy of Alaskan taxpayers, who picked up the $639.50 tab for her airplane tickets and per diem fees.
More of the Same! - inactive, on 10/11/2008, -1/+89Enough of these theocrats! We need leaders who will uphold the First Amendment, govern in accordance with sound scientific evidence, and respect people's right to privacy!
- inactive, on 10/11/2008, -2/+76No better than Taliban!
- jayb1rd, on 10/12/2008, -2/+50Dear Sarah Palin,
RTFC (read the ***** Constitution).
Sincerely,
America - ChangeIsGood, on 10/11/2008, -4/+44Wow....Really???????? Why am I not surprised......
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+37Even Huckabee thinks she's a religious nut.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2008, -1/+30Advocating one religion over others via the resources and powers of the state IS evil.
- AkshayGenius, on 10/11/2008, -2/+30Not good, not good at all. Before I joined digg, I thought the state in India was bad enough and I used to look up to the US system for a really true government, where you are heard (Fine, before George Bush as well). But I guess things won't look be nice if these theocrats are elected. I really, really want to see Obama elected. Please, rest of America as well, vote for Obama/Biden '08!
An Indian - sincerelysarah, on 10/11/2008, -1/+24There are already religious groups IN LINE to get political affirmation if these two get into the white house... McCain says he wants a strict interpretation of the constitution and will place those judges and officials that will do just that. Say good-bye to the Bill of Rights...
- rationalist, on 10/12/2008, -1/+24Why do you hate America?
- EarlOfLade, on 10/12/2008, -6/+27She is just like your average christian, no moral, no ethics, no dignity, no shame.
She is religious alright... - sk11, on 10/11/2008, -3/+24She'd probably nationalise religion if given half a chance. Church of America, headed by Pope Palin, anyone?
- Zervaman, on 10/12/2008, -0/+21RELIGION + GOVERNMENT = DISASTER
- rationalist, on 10/12/2008, -2/+18Irrelevant. Since the 19th century, under every Supreme Court - including the most conservative in history - the First Amendment was deemed to prohibit funding of explicitly religious activities, as violating both the prohibition on state-sponsored religion and on favoring one religion over another, or religion over non-religion.
- kingofinternet, on 10/12/2008, -2/+18like the mccain campaign
:P - inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+12Uh never...He isn't a Muslim and does not worship Islam.
- nonchalantmoon, on 10/12/2008, -1/+13I'm pretty sure he thinks Tripoli is a spicy Italian sausage.
- EarlOfLade, on 10/12/2008, -2/+14You have never read the Treaty of Tripoli, article XI, have you?
- rationalist, on 10/12/2008, -1/+13Incorrect. The Establishment Clause, coupled with the Free Exercise Clause, also prohibits the favoring of one religion over another, or of religion over non-religion. Funding of religious institutions for explicitly religious activities has been deemed unconstitutional in major Supreme Court cases dating back more than 100 years, back to the late 19th century.
As for the second point, the 14th Amendment takes care of that.
The US Constitution applies to state as well as federal law.
Read it some time, you might actually learn something. - compgeek, on 10/12/2008, -1/+13Elected office should not be used to promote religious causes or views of the person holding said office. I thought that's why there's separation of church and state in every westernized country in the world
- homercles337, on 10/12/2008, -3/+14You can PICK your religion. You cant pick your race, gender, or sexual orientation. So, hows aboot you fook off?
- malex, on 10/12/2008, -2/+13Thomas Jefferson would like to have a word with you.
- ruarctb, on 10/12/2008, -0/+11My thoughts are a lot of those policies of Bush were pandering. This lady is for real.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -2/+13Are you kidding? That stupid ***** hasn't even heard of Tripoli, articles, or the number XI.
- malex, on 10/12/2008, -1/+11No, no, no... Tripoli is the name of Sarah Palin's grandchild.
- nonchalantmoon, on 10/12/2008, -1/+11Have you been watching the news?! It's imploding NOW!!! Who the hell you think got us here?
- BrainInAJar, on 10/12/2008, -0/+10[citation needed]
- rationalist, on 10/12/2008, -1/+11This has nothing to do with Obama.
It has to do with the rule of law, with the notion that no one, including a governor, is above the law, and that the supreme law of the land is the U.S. Constitution.
Which these activities violate.
Are you:
a) opposed to the rule of law;
b) opposed to the notion that no one is above the law;
c) opposed to the U.S. Constitution, or
d) all of the above? - liberD, on 10/12/2008, -0/+9Hey Palin, you've got your religion in my politics. You want my politics in your religion?
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -3/+12Palin and Pope, both start with a "P'.
Coincidence?...I think not. - inactive, on 10/12/2008, -1/+9The amount of stupid in your post is pretty amazing.
You do know McCain is behind FISA (4th Amendment) now right?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/14/13102/ ...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/25/mc ...
As for the 2nd Amendment nonsense...
McCain:
# Ban cheap guns; require safety locks; for gun show checks.
# Supports ban on certain assault weapons.
from http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm
Obama:
# Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws.
# Concealed carry OK for retired police officers
from http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm
Also, Obama is not going to ban guns:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_target ...
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gunning_fo ...
Or do you choose to ignore the parts of the Constitution that do make McCain and Palin "loob" bad? - rationalist, on 10/12/2008, -1/+9Support for Obama is irrelevant to this discussion.
Support for the U.S. Constitution, for the rule of law in these United States, and for the principle that no one is above said law - that is relevant to this discussion.
Which of the above do you oppose, and why do you hate America? - gianpo, on 10/12/2008, -1/+9Why do you hate America?
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2008, -1/+9"Our Lady of the Wounded Moose Don'cha Know."
- spriggig, on 10/12/2008, -0/+8Protect the Separation of Church and State, because it protects you.
- windphoenix, on 10/12/2008, -0/+8I am just curious with all we have heard about Palin. What hasn't Palin done? Anti-Abortion extremist? Check! Vicious hunter? Check? Shooting creatures from air? Check. Getting Exorcised? Check. Association with Alaska Independence party? Check. Earmarks? Check. Bridge to nowhere? Check. Abuse of power? Check. anti-separation of state and religion? Check. Forcing a kid to marry her daughter? Check. Anti sex education? Check. Loud mouth? Check. Divisive tactics? Check. Dangerous comments about Obama? Check. Reads all the magazines? Check. Knows only one supreme court case? Check. Doesn't know Bush Doctrine? Check. Planning life after McCain's death? Check. Staying in denial about troopergate? Check. Lied about selling a plane on eBay? Check. Doesn't know what a VP does? Check. Thinks Clinton was whining? Check. Thinks media is unfair to women (or her)? Check.
If this has not been a disastrous choice, I don't know what is. - Wisewood, on 10/12/2008, -1/+9More of the same? It's worse.
At least Bush pretended that there was some separation of church and state. It appears that Palin makes no such distinction or effort. - armakaryk, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7in the sense that getting punched in the stomach is a little better than getting kicked in the nuts.
- ledmachine, on 10/12/2008, -2/+9Yes you are right there is nothing in the constitution about seperation of church and state. I also doesn't state that we are a free market, that we should be taxed by the IRS or that the president can go to war whenever they feel like. Face it, if we were not to have a seperation of church and state, then we would be able to install rules from Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even Buddists. A religion is a choice of how one lives there life, not how we force those choices on to other people. If you had your way, we would be run by the Church of the Flying Spagetti Monster.
- azreal156, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7[Winnestow's citation]: Some guy on the internets said dis so it is completely true >_
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -3/+10Last I checked, it also said nothing against euthanizing dumbass Repuke *****. We should really have President Obama look into that.
- rationalist, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7NorthMass is afraid to answer the question - or even address the actual issue.
His argument is of the type, "but Mommmm, Johnny did it too!"
At least we know now that NorthMass does not support the notion that laws - in particular the Constitutional ones - apply equally to all, regardless of who they support of what their title is. - b0rg, on 10/12/2008, -0/+6Ah, and therein lies the problem: Palin is from a catholic family, but now belongs to a church which rejects the Pope, not to mention having a different take on the ten commandments.
The most intense religious hatred is usually between groups with very similar beliefs - but just different enough to start killing each other over. - homercles337, on 10/12/2008, -1/+7@NorthMass. Look, NM, i understand youre upset and all, but when you evaluate things from many perspectives you understand the entire issue. I dont know how old you are, but im going to guess 13. When i was 13 i was full of piss and vinegar too. Hell, im in my 30s now and still the same (btw, thats a bad thing). The truth is that we are not entirely honest about this. Yes, im going to be honest with you. Religious indoctrination is your parents fault, your religion is your parents religion, and your parents religion is their parents religion, etc, etc. Just like your parents hate is your hate. So, its not "entirely" chosen, but it is. You can opt out at any moment in your life. You may be a lutheran now, but you can be a catholic later. Im white, male, and straight, i cant change that. Ever. We atheists are humanitarians, scientists, feminists, philanthropists, and so much more. Im sorry you feel so much ill will toward us atheists. I suspect your anger will eventually lead to your rebellion against your parents. When that happens i hope you think of this post. Shout me if you want to chat--seriously.
- anubis2night, on 10/12/2008, -2/+8Why would this surprise anyone? Palin has a history of exploiting those surrounding her to further her own agenda. In this case she uses her office (governor) to increase her support among her constituents (churches) that she lines her pockets at the tax payers expense, it's what she's good at. Then she hands these various churches support and financing. It's one hand washing the other but instead of big business getting in on the action it's religion. Classic politician, and yet she's supposedly a maverick.
- Dralha, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5Republican party = American taliban
- hierophantus, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5Jesus is voting for Obama.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5See, you can get away with this sort of stuff when you are the governor of a jerkwater state like Alaska.
People have forgotten that no one every heard of Palin before 5 weeks ago. For good reason. :) -
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