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- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -35/+195FTA :
The Lie: Drilling will only occupy 2000 ACRES.
The Facts: 2000 acres refers only to the square footage under the drilling pads. The area impacted is actually millions of acres of pads, roads, pipelines, facilities, pumping stations emission sources......
"2000 ACRES" IS ACTUALLY 1,500,000 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL SPRAWL! - rock42, on 09/01/2008, -24/+101PALIN SUCKS! I GET IT! i miss The Dark Knight.
- JasonHaley, on 09/01/2008, -1/+56It's called drainage. If you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. And my straw reaches acroooooooss the room, and starts to drink your milkshake. I... drink... your... milkshake!
- rald84, on 09/01/2008, -2/+55oh it'd tap its resources if you know what i mean
- insinuate, on 09/01/2008, -6/+49...I'll be grinnin from ear to ***** ear when December gets here and all this election news coverage is over.
- Sfenton, on 09/01/2008, -37/+71I thought we added Alaska to the union to tap its resources?
If the Alaskan people are up for it, I'm for it. - liberaldemdave, on 08/31/2008, -22/+52We're freaked out in a GOOD way. Couldn't have handed us a better pinata if he had tried. She'll look like Swiss cheese by the time she accepts the nomination (IF she makes it that far...).
- 1RandomNickname, on 09/01/2008, -0/+25I miss the iPhone. And what's Ron Paul doing today?
- jonnyboy1544, on 09/01/2008, -5/+25I go to Dailykos for all my oil industry facts.
- skews13, on 09/01/2008, -8/+27political leanings not withstanding. it has already been well documented that drilling anwr will do absolutely nothing to affect gas prices at the pump. if that is her answer to the energy crisis we face in this country, then she leaves a lot to be desired. why doesn't she use the rebate money the state gives out once a year to it's citizens, and use it instead to build a refinery, which would effectively help to reduce gas prices in her state? drilling anwr has become a political dodge to cover up the total failure of any kind of policy that would have a real impact on gas prices, and long term energy needs. when these oil company apologists start to demand that big oil drill in the leased areas, the size of the state of delaware, that they already possess, then they might be given some credibility in their call for new drilling platforms. if your going to decry drilling, but not new refining capacity, or alternative energy resources, and that big oil immediately begin drilling on already obtained publicly owned lands, since drilling seems to be such a big issue, then you have zero credibility on the issue of anwr, since that would have the least impact, as compared to all of the others. but then again, i'll consider the source. politics not withstanding of course.
- EvilDoer, on 09/01/2008, -10/+28"I'm out of my mind obsessed with Palin!!!"
- inactive, on 09/01/2008, -16/+33Worst. Vice President. Nomination. Ever.
McCain: your lack of judgment is showing. - emehrkay, on 09/01/2008, -8/+25I watched the Maria B. and Palin interview last night. At one point Palin talked for what seemed to be 5 mins straight about some subject. All I know is that I wanted her to stop. She was all over the place and her voice quickly became very annoying.
And Maria didn't even try to offer up any rebuttals to Palin's claims, it was a very bad segment. - solistus, on 09/01/2008, -2/+16unreg: yeah, she's served ALMOST half a term as governor, during which she has presided over a massive oil-based budget surplus and STILL had to cut funding to several successful social programs in Anchorage. She's used her time in elected office to profess ignorance about Iraq and the role of the VP, and hasn't taken a stance on anything but ANWR and the standard ultra-right wing basket of divisive social wedge issues. Oh, let's not forget her 6-year stint as mayor of tiny Wasilla, during which she badly botched a land deal on an already extremely expensive and unnecessary sports stadium. She left in 2002, but the city is STILL saddled with huge debts and has spending cuts and city fee hikes in place to pay it off even to this day. Experience, lol. The fact that you and fellow neocon airheads continue to prop up this choice as a good one would be funny if the last 8 years didn't make it so scary. Palin is, BY FAR, the least qualified person on a major party ticket in generations. You have to be completely brainwashed by and/or under the payroll of the McCain campaign to claim otherwise.
- PHiZ187, on 09/01/2008, -9/+23I've noticed a concentrated effort on behalf of the right-wing diggers. The "talking point" that they are pushing, is that dems are "freaking out" because they are "scared" of Palin as a pick. You will notice that multiple posters with different names are pushing the same story-line/narrative. This stinks of a concentrated push by the right-wingers to push this narrative into the public consciousness. Unfortunately they suck at it, and made it obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if these marching orders came directly from the McCain campaign. We all read the story about their propaganda corps., who earn points for pushing talking points out into the blogosphere....
- joeanon, on 09/01/2008, -2/+14What if you and the Alaskian people are just dumb half educated idiots and your 'decisions' wind up costing up more money than they make.
In that case, you'd be better off to not listen to yourself or use random polling of people who have no qualification or expertise on the subject. - cyberprunes, on 09/01/2008, -11/+22Right, I guess Environmental disaster has no place in the debate.
- solistus, on 09/01/2008, -4/+14No, it doesn't assume the whole area gets paved over. It actually LABELS the specific spots where it assumes a pipeline or road would be needed based on the oil distribution. The point is not that all of ANWR gets paved, but that a large, interconnected and fragile ecosystem gets shattered by pipelines, roads, gravel mines and the like. This disrupts migratory patterns, can confuse animals into going the wrong direction, separates predators from prey and does plenty more to ***** up the ecosystem. The Arctic ecosystem is VERY fragile because it's not very diverse; there are relatively few species in the region filling each ecological niche, so disrupting the eating and traveling patterns of just one species can have profound results. Only 2000 acres (PLUS many thousands more for gravel / ice extraction, pipelines, roads and ice roads) may be DIRECTLY affected (i.e., "paved over") but the whole ecosystem will suffer dramatic transformation with industrial equipment and construction crews crisscrossing the whole region.
- fbihop, on 09/01/2008, -9/+19I hope you weren't feeling the same way about the choice of Harriet Miers as Supreme Court Justice; we all know how well THAT particular tapping of an unqualified woman candidate went.
- thatsmyaibo, on 09/01/2008, -3/+12They will deny it but you are absolutely right. Digg has gone down the ***** with agenda politics.
- skippy562, on 09/01/2008, -1/+10i miss the scientology stuff.
- inactive, on 09/01/2008, -4/+13Governor Palin also RAISED TAXES on oil companies operating in Alaska by $1.5 billion a year.
Alaska relies on the energy industry for 85 percent of tax revenue and 33 percent of jobs. No wonder she wants more and more drilling.
ConocoPhillips, based in Houston, will SCALE BACK its $1 billion Alaska drilling plan for 2008 because of Palin's higher taxes.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&si ... - bjornski, on 09/01/2008, -7/+16@didiman
I'm sorry? What was that? I couldn't hear you through the laughter.
What trailer park was this "candidate" found at again? - solistus, on 09/01/2008, -5/+13The fact that we thought exploiting those resources had no consequence when we bought Alaska doesn't mean we should ignore those consequences now that we do understand them. Oil exploration of this sort has a long history of proven negative effects on local wildlife, and ANWR represents a slice of a fast disappearing, fragile and unique ecosystem.
Then there's that whole minor thing that there probably isn't enough oil in ANWR to make any significant change in the cost of crude oil, and that if we are still so dependent on oil prices in 10-20 years when ANWR would be at full production we've already failed irrevocably at ensuring our energy security, but that requires a basic understanding of the facts and some critical thinking skills, neither of which is really the "DRILL HERE DRILL NOW" crowd's "thing." - emehrkay, on 09/01/2008, -1/+9hahaha great reply.
- biogears, on 09/01/2008, -0/+8Then digg would look like they stole that white-space formula from Apple :)
- inactive, on 09/01/2008, -6/+13Oh so she is not a liar, just a devious individual that doesn't fully disclose all the side of a story to her constituent in order to achieve a better approval rate.
Cool! A real politician with experience! - cwgannon, on 09/01/2008, -2/+9unreg:
This guy's not been nominated for VP, though your questions seem able to vet him better than McCain vetted Palin. - NikoKun, on 09/01/2008, -6/+13To be blunt... If that is how you think... Then you really have no business voting.
- FlaG8r, on 09/01/2008, -11/+18Dewhead my friend, we just smell blood in the water.
- biogears, on 09/01/2008, -1/+8Digg is suppose to offer balance? Holy cow. When?
- inactive, on 09/02/2008, -1/+7Yes lets trash the last large intact eco-system in the U.S. for SIX MONTHS worth of oil that sounds wise and an example of calmly taking the long view. If you guys were to actually read Russell Kirk's Ten Conservative Principles, you'd realize that you guys far from being "conservative" are in fact reckless growth and change oriented industrial modernists, which is NOT conservative philosophy in the traditional sense. But then that's hardly surprising seeing as isolationist paleo-cons were suppressed by Trotskyite neo-cons.
http://www.kirkcenter.org/kirk/ten-principles.html
It's really sad I know more history about conservatives than most self labeled "conservatives." :(
Anyway I'd strongly urge any people here who consider themselves to be conservatives to read Kirk, and then think if your waste oriented fast food, SUVs, and mini-mansions way of life really falls under the rubric of conservative or not.
Thanks, your local open minded leftist who reads Pat Buchanan's American Conservative. - fedak, on 09/01/2008, -4/+10Bartaromo is the Larry King of financial journalism. She's where you go if you want a softball interview.
You'll never see here ask anything close to a pressing intelligent question.
(And to make matters worse, she often tries to create news soundbites by asking leading questions) - inactive, on 09/01/2008, -10/+16Imagine if McCain had chosen Carrot Top as his VP, then the left would be losing their minds. You would be super super super certain McCain made the right choice!
- Albumen, on 09/01/2008, -2/+899% of you neocon parrots wouldn't know a real leftist if you were being corn-holed by one! Do some reading on political science and political trends in general.
- kaelyiesta, on 09/01/2008, -2/+8Environment is only valuable in so far as the people affected by it mind. For example: a tree, in and of itself, is just a tree with no feelings whatsoever. If the people that live near that tree want to keep it intact, fine, and if not, just as good. So, as Sfenton said, If the alaskan people are up for it, more power to them.
- Dgen_X, on 09/02/2008, -0/+5I miss the technology stuff...
- edjenkins234, on 09/01/2008, -1/+6Lets do a story about how Biden hid the fact that he had billions of dollars no one kne about.
- bjornski, on 09/01/2008, -4/+9Funny. That's the ONLY message I'm seeing from the right wing today.
"You must be scared! You keep talking about her! You must be scared!"
LOL! - q1006662, on 09/01/2008, -1/+6That's the most inane comment I've read in a long time.
- bjornski, on 09/01/2008, -4/+9@locitman
Well, it's not leaking from Bistol's.
Because even with her mothers "Mother of the year" moment, her daughter IS PREGNANT EITHER WAY!
BAHAHAHAAHAHA - homercles337, on 09/01/2008, -0/+5She should scare *you* that much.
- worldtechguy, on 09/01/2008, -7/+12I totally agree! This place is filled with a bunch of teeny-bopper marxists who just repeat what their popular friends say. They post the dumbest stuff here then bring their friends around to point out what they said and get a big laugh. If these people are the future of our country, we'll need to replace the US flag with a hammer and sickle and start building re-education camps for those who disagree.
- sockpuppets, on 09/02/2008, -0/+5Someone already drilled there.
- joeanon, on 09/01/2008, -0/+5This stuff makes for the best daily show and colbert report episodes ever.
- HappyScrappy, on 09/01/2008, -0/+4You're repeating the same discredited crap.
The area "dedicated" to drilling is a lot larger, since 1200 acres of gravel mines isn't counted, plus the 8,000+ acres of roads made from the gravel out of those mines.
You cannot tell me roads don't despoil the landscape. I don't see any daisies growing out of the road in front of my house. - neveroddoreven, on 09/02/2008, -0/+4I miss the endless gaming news with the occasional rick roll
- bjornski, on 09/01/2008, -5/+9Carrot Top would be a better candidate than this fundamentalist brood-mare.
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