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- SteveMTyler, on 08/30/2008, -102/+282I guess they are going all out on the uneducated vote.
- jeffbw, on 08/29/2008, -105/+240Uh oh, another oiler administration. And she's a total right-wing regressive and a creationist. So much for any Rethuglican "change campaign," this is the ultimate reinforcing pick: McSame + HYPERMcSame.
- Easty, on 08/30/2008, -55/+152Oh boy. Biden's been around for 30 years and the Republicans have had weeks to find dirt. Palin's been around for 3 and we've already found this cavalcade. It's fascinating. Maybe the left are just masters of The Google.
- argoff, on 08/30/2008, -39/+126I wish people would understand that the real issue isn't about global warming, that's just a proxy battle for the main one which is: the size of government in our lives. The fact is that the US govt already takes up over 40% of the economy, yet there are people who still think that it isn't enough. It makes me wonder what's wrong with them? How can people just be so desperate to hand more and more control over their own lives to someone else, and then get all shocked when things get all screwed up.
- krawkula, on 08/30/2008, -13/+84Previously on digg:
Global warming isnt real(or not manmade);
We do nothing, nothing changes.
We clean up, we have cleaner air, renewable energy and better quality of life
Global warming IS real(or is manmade);
We do nothing, were doomed.
We clean up, were saved.
Its win/win for doing something about it whether its a threat or not. - cygnus2112, on 08/30/2008, -51/+120What are you talking about!
Take a look at : http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/sp ...
Humans caused global warming 100,000 years ago, 200,000 years ago, 325,000 years ago, 400,000 years ago, etc etc. And the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are very real. Al Gore starred in a movie and said so. - ImperialRome, on 08/30/2008, -39/+97While I would agree that we need to reduce our consumption of fossile fuels, I would dispute the "CO2 as pollution" garbage and the global warming theory.
Ocean temps and atmospheric temps have not increased. Surface temps have increased in some areas but that is more likely due to changes in the data and not due to warming. If CO2 was warming the globe, then the upper atmosphere temps would change FIRST.
Second, the global warming crowd points to Polar ice as its key indicator, forgetting that history has recorded many instances of polar ice changes like whats currently happening.
Third, CO2 doesn't damage the environment, its what the trees and plankton need to breathe. CO2 levels have been higher in the past, and according to the ice core data, CO2 increases have lagged behind temp increases, not led them.
Should we be doing things to mitigate the effects of global warming? Certainly. Should we be trying to stop it? Impossible. The Earth's climate is governed by forces larger than us, and all our efforts mean little. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -83/+138that would make her correct.
- Toshibi, on 08/30/2008, -9/+60A republican holding a republican position...news at 11...
- djcreamy, on 08/30/2008, -18/+64In the United States, that's a guaranteed winner.
- rootnik, on 08/30/2008, -28/+69Palin is a Republican? Thanks for letting us know.
You guys are digging deep to find dirt on Palin. I'm sorry but submitting stories about her being pro-life, or being religious, or not believing in global warming, or being pro-gun only tell me that she is a republican. I already know that a majority of Digg hates republicans, unless that republican's name is Ron Paul. - TSK05, on 08/30/2008, -7/+44This is dirt? This is the view of (almost) any Republican.
- painting, on 08/30/2008, -10/+43because its freezing in Alaska.
- badenglishihave, on 08/30/2008, -33/+65I don't know how much scientific education you've had but correlation most certainly does does not prove causation. Did you know that the amount of solar activity also correlates perfectly with the rise in temperature?
Man made global warming is an agenda pushed by the political left wing to create havok and make the American people feel like their lives are in the hands of democrats because it is obviously only the leftists who care about the environment and the future of the world.
This man made global warming thing is so clearly political it's sad that anybody buys it. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -13/+42It obviously isn't good for the environment, but when humans only contribute around 4% of all carbon dioxide emissions and it only makes up around 1/1000 of our atmosphere, nothing really happens. Obviously if you had 14% carbon dioxide levels then the earth would heat up and we'd all die, but the current fraction is negligible. Also ***** off, I'm not going to cite my *****, go research yourself. If you really have a clue about global warming then you won't bother asking for citations on common knowledge.
- JimSwarthow, on 08/30/2008, -30/+59this woman gets hotter by the minute
- rahamm, on 08/30/2008, -68/+92I hear her baby might actually be her daughters.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-69834 - itraylor, on 08/30/2008, -5/+30A lack of personal responsibility encourages people to want the government to step in a just "make things better."
- mshiplet, on 08/30/2008, -11/+36How is her stance on global warming any different then Ron Pauls? It really isn't. If you go look at all of the Ron Paul quotes on global warming, he pretty much says the same thing. Most of you bashing her on this comment probably just let it go when Ron Paul said similar comments. Bashing Palin is getting really old.
"Fear is constantly generated by politicians to rally the support of the people. Environmentalists go back and forth, from warning about a coming ice age to arguing the grave dangers of global warming." - Ron Paul - bcmorrison3, on 08/30/2008, -10/+34Get your facts Straight. Ice core studies have shown that CO2 levels follow temperature change . Temperature does not follow CO2 changes. When earth heats or cools it is 99% due to solar cycles or volcanic activity and 0% due to human activity. Sorry folks. You can't argue with the facts.
- inactive, on 08/30/2008, -6/+28Diggs really not for news its for Propaganda..
- urgeigh, on 08/30/2008, -2/+23No, that was the O-zone remember? :P That was our fault too.
- psylence, on 08/30/2008, -10/+32It's fun when dissenting views are stifled, isn't it? I highly doubt many people here on either side of the issue could cite empirical facts supporting their side to a conclusion.
Yet they'll just believe what they're told without question. Fun, productive... - BevansDesign, on 08/30/2008, -17/+38The more I hear about her, the more I wonder how anyone could possibly vote her into office. Unfortunately, I thought the same thing about Bush. Maybe being an ignorant, crooked fool is a sure way to get yourself elected.
- musikatie, on 08/30/2008, -10/+31Yeah, all Palin is saying that she's not a scientist and has not been convinced by any scientists that man is solely to blame for the warming trends of the last 120 (40 really) years.
The hockey stick graph has a lot of problems and so does Al Gore's where temperature spikes precede CO2 spikes.
Anti-capitalists cling on to the man-made theory as if it came from Newton or Einstein, just so they can promote their agenda. - NorthMass, on 08/30/2008, -3/+23Most Republicans are not conservatives anymore. Ron Paul is a true conservative.
- SQLserver, on 08/30/2008, -60/+80To the man-made global warming deniers.
Just answer this question.
Carbon Dioxide is a known green house gas. It is scientifically proven that it contributes to a lot of the greenhouse effect, along with other gases. Carbon Dioxide correlates perfectly with global temperature; there is no doubting that the more CO2, the hotter it gets.
So. Can you please explain why spewing huge amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere can POSSIBLY be a good thing, even if it isn't the main cause of global warming? How the hell will that HELP?
The point is, EVERYONE agrees that we need to stop using fossil fuels asap. Whether Global Warming is totally man-made or not, everyone agrees that spewing CO2 into the atmosphere damages the environment, and that the oil industry in general is corrupt, bad for the environment(oil spills), and bad for the economy. - TSK05, on 08/30/2008, -17/+37Oiler administration? She has imposed a new profit tax on big oil in her state, she wrote another act (herself!) which hurt a bunch of oil companies (including BP for which her husband works as a grunt), she exposed the Republican Party chair in Alaska for being in cahoots with oil companies and he was forced to resign.
How are any of the above for big oil? - stubarwick, on 08/30/2008, -4/+23I don't desire government interference in the lives of Americans, or any persons for that matter and if I'm correct so do most Republicans. But I find it ironic that they are so adamant about same sex marriage and choice/life. Isn't restriction of rights for the party's in each of these issues government interference?
So why are people so concerned over outlawing these issues? To me it seems like Republicans operate under the guise of small government while making it bigger. - Berkana, on 08/30/2008, -23/+41That documentary was very thoroughly refuted. They were outright misleading at the end, where they cut off the solar data at 1980, because after 1980, there was no good correlation at all.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-165664054 ...
Please look at the counter-arguments to the claims made in "The Great Global Warming Swindle"; they glossed over the fact that though carbon dioxide has historically been a trailing indicator, it has always had a feedback effect as a greenhouse gas, and that in modern times, we are changing the concentration of carbon dioxide independently of the sun at such a rate that what used to be a feedback effect has become a leading indicator. - loqqq, on 08/30/2008, -37/+55Palin has a differing opinon. Anywhere else, it's praiseworthy. On Digg, it's heresy.
- woodrow8292, on 08/30/2008, -49/+67Good for her, shes right ya know.
- NeoHomer, on 08/30/2008, -69/+87And she's right. Man made global climate change is a complete and utter HOAX. Just wait, you climate change idiots are gonna look pretty stupid and gullible in time.
- inactive, on 08/30/2008, -33/+49Is there some sort of anti-McCain internet lobby group that met up last night to devise a way to splatter all of Digg's FP with anti-Palin garbage?
I came here for news, but I keep getting one side, today's Digg FP is making me want to just leave this site until the election is done.
Anyone who wants to join me should just un-bookmark Digg for now and replace with Al-Jazeera, the only decent and balance news source left these days. - akchrs, on 08/30/2008, -3/+19she ran against a republican governor, beat him, then sold a jet that he bought for himself.
- lucutus, on 08/30/2008, -23/+38I agree with her. None of the so called evidence for man made global warming is ever presented in context. It's frequently presented in whatever format makes the numbers seem shocking. Often forgotten is the fact that we are coming out of a recent ice age and the earth was a lot warmer long ago. North America used to be tropical.
I'm all for renewable clean solar and yes the oil industry is evil and bad for humanity. Still that doesn't mean our own self righteousness makes us even a small player in the climate. The Earth, the Sun, the oceans, nature as a whole is much bigger than humans and so is the climate. We do not produce or destroy any CO2, we only disperse it. It is then reabsorbed. This is a natural cycle and all we could claim is that we dispersed some faster than it would on it's own. (Save for a super volcano) Over the period of the Earth the time it takes us to deplete all oil is to small to have a long lasting impact on climate.
The worst outcome of assuming responsibility scares the crap out of me and it should scare you too. Once we call it our fault we assume we have to fix it. Then we go deliberately mucking with the climate. That my fellow humans could be much worse and should be avoided at all costs! Don't believe me? Check your TV schedule for the Science Chanel this Sunday. "An Experiment to Save the World"
Through the history of the Earth more CO2 was released by natural events faster than man made. Nature is more powerfull than we are. - honeymustardn, on 08/30/2008, -8/+23I can understand the other side of the argument, but come on man, using The Great Global Warming Swindle as evidence for it? Surely you can do better than that.
- jjesusfreak01, on 08/30/2008, -2/+16Quote from a commenter higher up the page:
"She has imposed a new profit tax on big oil in her state, she wrote another act (herself!) which hurt a bunch of oil companies (including BP for which her husband works as a grunt), she exposed the Republican Party chair in Alaska for being in cahoots with oil companies and he was forced to resign." - stonewaljacksn, on 08/30/2008, -13/+26I want to say that "both sides are equally uneducated" but I can't because that's not what I would really mean.
To completely blame global warming on humans is ridiculous at this point, and to insist that they don't affect it at all is ridiculous. If this wasn't turned into such a ***** partisan issue, a "veil issue" that is thrown over the most important issues of our day (vaguely: economics), then I'm sure the opinions of all involved would be MUCH less polarized. I just can't believe that people on either side would make themselves SO intentionally STUPID as to completely ignore the (usually) PARTIALLY legitimate opinions of the people at the opposite pole.
***** though, if we stop forcing ourselves to one of the poles on these vague veil issues, then we're actually gonna see the economic influences that set us up like pawns and find our common ground with all hardworking Americans!! Who would want such unity and solidarity??? - TSK05, on 08/30/2008, -29/+42I also agree that man made global warming is *****. I am not even going to bury this article, if anything, it adds credibility to her in my mind.
I would note that think progress forgot this: "Palin has announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisors to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska." This was before her VP nomination. - badenglishihave, on 08/30/2008, -4/+17Holy moley, you mean to say the SUN is causing global WARMING? That's unreal!
- ieee, on 08/30/2008, -22/+34If global climate change was politically damaging to democrats Pat Robertson would be finding passages in the Bible condemning Hummers and President Bush would be calling polluters terrorits
- welliamwallace, on 08/30/2008, -8/+20she doesn't deny global warming. she just has a different opinion on the CAUSE of global warming.
- DutchGuilder, on 08/30/2008, -2/+14You do know that the executive summary of the IPOCC report that says "global warming is man made" was not written by scientists and does not match the data in body of the same report, right? And that the body of the report essentially says "we're not sure", right? And that when scientists referenced in the report asked to be excluded because they disagree with the summary the IPOCC refused and kept them in anyway, right? And that the IPOCC was originally created by a politician to move the public opinion against striking British coal miners - not to perform science - right?
Watch it for yourself: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=global+warmi ... - badenglishihave, on 08/30/2008, -5/+17@ XTX7X: Just do a google search for "solar activity temperature."
Here are a few links though:
http://www.quaker.org/clq/2007/TQE158-EN-GlobalWar ... (not really a scientific source but an interesting read)
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_0 ...
I'm not claiming, nor should anybody else, that the sun is the only contributor to global warming. What I think people should take away from this is that there are MANY factors that could contribute to global warming and man-made CO2 emissions makes a small if not negligible contribution. - urgeigh, on 08/30/2008, -8/+20Yeah I cannot wait. As if no change or a slight decrease in global temperatures over the last 7-8 years weren't enough. They still insist the planet is warming even though it's ...cooling. /*****
- FLUX, on 08/30/2008, -6/+18amen
- deleo, on 08/30/2008, -14/+26I think Paul Begala said it best on CNN yesterday, as a Democrat of course he wants Obama to win, but as a citizen he is really concerned by this pick. Say McCain wins and something happens to him, however remote that possibility is. Sarah Palin would become President of the United States. How insulting i it that McCain would pick someone he doesn't even know to take over for him in that event? What does that say about his judgement?
I really hope that the above scenario, however remote it could be, does not have the chance to happen. Over the next 4 years you could have Pakistan descend into chaos or another terrorist attack could happen here. Imagine Sarah Palin sitting in the Oval Office surrounded by advisors trying to figure out what to do. Obviously John McCain isn't scared by that prospect, well I am! - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -24/+36Oh, she's certain that global warming isn't man-made, is she? So what, exactly, are her scientific credentials? Once and for all, politicians, stay the ***** out of global warming! You have no business there. You're not scientists, you have no interest in science, all you want to do is use it to increase votes.
- cJw314, on 08/30/2008, -8/+19I bet she can capitalize.
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