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- shawnfassett, on 10/10/2007, -22/+68conservatives are losing their minds...
- Apokalyps2547, on 10/10/2007, -11/+50Right-wing spin: "If we leave it will be chaos! A bloody civil war!"
My thoughts: "And that will be different from the last 2 years... how?" - Lyanto, on 10/10/2007, -10/+36Some of them never had any to begin with... *cough*Coulter&O'Reilly*hack*
- Paroparo, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26You're right. He's just an idiot.
- Kewlduderules, on 10/10/2007, -13/+28Robert “Buzz” Patterson says "I am so happy you’re not serving in Iraq right now, stabbing your fellow men and women in uniform like you do back in the states." Interpretation: you are ruining our profits here in Iraq. Shut the f*ck up!
Jon Soltz responds "You read the newspaper, I was in Iraq. That’s the difference between you and I." Interpretation: You read the newspaper, I was in Iraq. That’s the difference between you and I.
;-) - ganjadude4391, on 10/10/2007, -14/+28this is just despicable. I wish that the people with the big blogs would buy some of the spectrum coming up and start a new news network and attempt to keep it from getting corrupt. The way things are the American people, MY people are being lied to and they are eating it up cause you know, if its on the TV it MUST be true!
- epsilona01, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20Wow. Patterson even starts to try to threaten Soltz on air. He essentially says 'Oh, I don't like your comments, do we still own you?' Fortunately, Soltz is no longer on a leash.
PATTERSON: Are you still in the Reserves? Are you getting a Department of Defense pension — a Department of Defense paycheck?
SOLTZ: I’m a private citizen right now, chairman of VoteVets.org and an Iraq War veteran.
At least Soltz isn't trying to make a movie.. or his discharge might be brought into question. (wait for it....) - fellowette, on 10/10/2007, -15/+26Rank right-wing hypocrisy, as usual
- khail250, on 10/10/2007, -14/+24for some reason its all the people that HAVE NOT been in Iraq that think things are going well. The ones that HAVE been or LISTEN to the people that have been there think we should get out... why are we there?
I was in the US Navy, and things are ooooonly getting worse. LETS GET OUT! - dmh11686, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16How is someone who served 20 years in the military a chicken hawk?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Is Jon Soltz the same guy that didn't let a uniformed soldier speak during a breakout session of the YearlyKoz (DailyKoz) convention? Why yes it is and kind of shed's new light on Mr. Patterson's comment. Isn't also odd that thinkprogress.com, in their "story" about radical right wing agenda, didn't even mention Soltz's refusal of the military personnel from speaking to the panel on, "The Military and Progressives: Are They Really That Different". In fact, it's NO WHERE on their site.
- sonofdy1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10They don't want to hear anything that might make them think they might be wrong.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Strange how bringing the troops home from Iraq -- a country that doesn't want our troops there and which is in the middle of its own civil war -- is seen as "stabbing them in the back," but a policy of "more of the same," which hasn't worked in 4+ years and is responsible for the death of 3500+ troops is seen as "supporting the troops." Welcome to Backwards Land.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -22/+28Chickenhawks have no shame.
- reddevil3, on 10/10/2007, -11/+17I saw this yesterday and was horrified by this guy...going on about "Hillary is socialist!!" and whatnot. What the ***** is wrong with the right-wing??
- uptown, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I just wish that televised political discussion hadn't turned into two people yelling at each other, talking over one another. It's idiotic. It's easy to fight. It's easy to yell. It also doesn't really accomplish anything, because someone that you're yelling at will never even consider your viewpoint. Sadly, the news media has decided they'd rather present "entertainment" than try to enhance the national dialogue about the war.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I liked that part where Stolz tried to pull he Absolute Moral Authority card on Buzz about Iraq because Stolz served there but Buzz didn't, then Buzz turned and used it against Stolz on Hillary. Classic.
- Smurph0404, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6That was because there is a DOD rule that bars service men and women from participating in political action while wearing the uniform, so Slots was right. Unfortunately Soltz is also a hypocrite because every single argument he makes is based on the fact the "HE WENT TO IRAQ AND YOU DIDN'T!!!!". Once somebody shows up with the same creds and a different opinion, he has to silence them somehow. I bet if that uniformed soldier had expressed an opinion agreeing with Soltz, he wouldn't have minded that he was in uniform.
- Vermifax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7"Democrats are bad, irresponsible, dishonest, selfish, atheistic, homosexual, dictator loving morons."
Actually, Republicans are bad (Rove), irresponsible (Bush), selfish (Cheney), atheistic (again, Cheney & Rove), homosexual (Foley, Bob Allen - FL), dictator-loving morons (entire Bush Administration, Rupert Murdoch & FNC Staff, Drudge, Coulter, Limbaugh, Novak and about %25 of the American population). - DaysInTheDark, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Only on digg can a colonel get shat on for voicing his opinion.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7hmmm
thinkprogress.org
Admin Name:American Progress Action Fund
Admin Organization:American Progress Action Fund
and I quote
"Center for American Progress Action Fund
Formerly known simply as the American Progress Action Fund, the Center for American Progress Action Fund is a "sister advocacy organization" and is organizationally and financially separate from the Center for American Progress, although they share many staff and a physical address. Whereas the Center for American Progress is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, the fund is a 501(c)(4), allowing it to devote more funds to lobbying.[4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress#Conservative_criticism_of_The_Structural_Imbalance_of_Political_Talk_Radio - way2muchsense, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8From his webpage bio: http://www.buzzpatterson.com/aboutus.asp
Patterson served 20 years on active duty in the military with distinction and saw tours of duty as an Air Force pilot during combat operations in Grenada, Somalia, Rwanda, Haiti, and Bosnia.
From 1996 to 1998, Colonel Patterson was the Senior Military Aide to President Bill Clinton. During that time he was responsible for the President’s Emergency Satchel, otherwise known as the “Nuclear Football," the black bag with the nation’s nuclear capability that accompanies the president at all times. In addition, Colonel Patterson was operational commander for all military units assigned to the White House, to include Air Force One, Marine One, Camp David, White House Transportation Agency and White House Mess.
Among his many military commendations, Patterson received the Defense Superior Service Medal for accomplishments while at the White House, and was awarded the Air Force Air Medal for flying fifteen combat support missions into then besieged Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina. He retired in 2001 to pursue a career as a commercial airline pilot and writer. - Dynamosa, on 10/10/2007, -9/+14Just another piece in the slew of evidence demonstrating why Conservatives are morons.
- nongmo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Wow, you figured out that ThinkProgress has a liberal bias? You're some kind of detective...
- jerbaker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6You cannot lose that which you do not have.
Conservatives are not losing their minds. Neoconservatives, as opposed to traditional fiscal conservatives, are really mostly composed of the Religious Right. They are mean, nasty, cheating people who do not cower from throwing low blows, lying, cheating, stealing, or doing anything else to further their agenda. Some of them murder doctors who perform abortions, some of them scream anti-gay speech from the rooftops while molesting little boys at church, some of them threaten violence if a political candidate not of their own liking wins an election, but their common thread is thuggery. - evilregis, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8The video helps to alleviate any concerns about its truthiness.
- AlexWills, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I don't understand the point of the title. As much as a jackass someone can be, couldn't the title be "Colonel Accuses Left Wingers of Stabbing Soldiers in the Back"?
It seems like every Digg article here has not only a liberal bias but is almost always mistitled. - onisamsha, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Care to volunteer any evidence as to how or why he's stabbing his former compatriots in the back? Or are you just going with the idiotic, misspelled comment?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/2/142332/0502 - It seems like the founder of dailykoz.com feels that since uniformed service personnel are seen in "pro-war" events, that they should be allowed in anti-war events too.
This just shows the hypocrisy of the left and DailyKoz. We want your right to wear your uniform in anti-war events, just don't come to our convention to speak for the Iraq war. - DesertJeepster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Libtard believing stinkprogress, as usual
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6He is still an ***** in this segment though, I watched it.
However that is an impressive resume, I am glad heis no longer in charge of the nuclear football. - Delphium226, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5You said, "...providing their enemies with propaganda..."
Where is this propaganda (other than in your head)? - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm sure all of those Al Qaeda fighters would be home tending their goats if we hadn't invaded Iraq. These are the same people who wanted to behead people because of a bunch of Danish cartoons, now the're all peaceful except for ***** illegal war. Whatever.
- digitalhair, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3it hasn't been removed dicknose
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Wait, if Soltz is a private citizen, then why was he giving direct orders to a uniformed soldier at YearlyKos?
- preban, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Iraq War discussion will always turn into a shouting match. From my own personal experience, people who support the war immediately label the war dissenters as unpatriotic liberals, thereby putting me on the defensive (and I'm not a liberal). Of course, some of the anti-war people veer off onto personal attacks on the President, which the war-supporters interpret as if you're attacking THEM.
The sad thing is that nobody is doing anything to end the war, because nobody wants to be wrong. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Which gogun did the day after 911 right? You are for fighting Al Qaeda and getting Bin Laden right? And per your comment the only proper way to do that is to sign-up, so your comment was transmitted from some dusty Afghanistan fox hole?
- khail250, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6who do you talk to?
- mstoneburner, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You should be. Only idiots are interested in fair fights.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Jane Fonda
- Gaki, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Radical? Even Powell used to call the neo-cons in office the "crazies" when they were just minor functionaries in previous governments. Even your fellow Republicans are starting to see that Bush and his loonies are a) Conservatives in name only and b) committed to an agenda that is more radical than anything any previous President came up with. Do you think remaking the world in the US image and cementing the US at the top of the heap (Project for the New American Century) might be considered a tad radical?
- IADTatami, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Corporate socialist, maybe. Compulsory insurance isn't quite the same as UHC
But yeah, vote for Hillary if you want more war in the ME - bluto36, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3oops Chicken hawk argument going to get shoved up your Butt, right next to your head
- Gaki, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Uh, did you miss that it also exposes the hypocrisy of the military ... that they are allowed to speak at pro-war events but not the contrary? Uniformed soldiers are owned (as the Colonel in the clip so blithely put it) and so can't speak out against the war, but don't pretend that a policy like that isn't biased.
- sonofdy1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2OK, and that has what to do with the left accepting compromise?
- sonofdy1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5There are solutions both sides can agree with. But the radicals are in charge on the left so they don't even get heard.
- n8f8, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Uh, because he is?
- sadatoni, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Dugged for being a biased title
- Gaki, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3civil war
n.
A war between factions or regions of the same country.
A state of hostility or conflict between elements within an organization: "The broadcaster is in the midst of a civil war that has brought it to the brink of a complete management overhaul"
The Kurds rebelled and were gassed. The Shia attempted an assassination and the village involved was massacred. Sunni casualties in both cases were minimal to non-existent. This is hardly civil war ... more like governmental repression because the results were never in doubt. - nickyonce, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4if reactionary ad hominem attacks are your way of "using your brain" and not feeling your way through the issue, then i'm glad to be called Liberal.
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