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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Occam's razor: there is a banality of evil - they are stupid and greedy.
There is no conspiracy; this is actually happening but the 'theorists" just ascribe too much smarts to these people.
If I remember correctly, a few years before the EU was formed there were a lot of people in the UK denying that it could happen...
Have you ever heard of a gov't giving up power? Its rare --- these talks and "frameworks" will only expand.
The era of the nation state is already over with corporations, anyway - adcat, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14Basic Occam's razor: Either there is a mass global conspiracy brewing that has managed to remain hidden (a photo of Condi meeting with two officials from neighboring countries doesn't count as "evidence", no matter how it's spun), or Alex Jones is a nutcase.
I vote nutcase; dugg down as innaccurate. - smokecheck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3 YOU will not take our sovereignty!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Who are you idiots writing sentence fragments calling people "Stoo-pid!" anyway?
Why don't you have anything to say besides personal attacks?
Look, if you're just dumbasses then fine, I'm sorry, but I understand the 21st Century propaganda is pretty slick stuff, and you snorted Headlines until you destroyed your brain. No problem, just check this stuff out and understand that when millions of fellow citizens trying to say something are worth listening to. Oh yeah, and "terrorists" like to see us divided and distrustful, so thanks for giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy.
However, if you are actually funded by tax dollars as part of a COINTELPRO-style government disinformation program, then shame on you, shame on you all, you are embarrassing yourselves and your profession. Please provide some evidence that you've done at least half as much Googling as "conspiracy theorists" if you're going to talk about it, otherwise you just look like an ass.
Besides, "conspiracy" is the most common charge levied in any court in the world, and it just means 2 or more people "conspired" to secretly do something immoral or illegal - which is what 90% of crime is.
Idiots.
WW3 is brewing in the Persian Gulf, and instead of wasting time telling people what "not" to look at, why don't you bring something constructive to the debate.
Peace, (NOW!!!)
BK
Bush PR costs taxpayers $1.6 billion
Jennifer A. Dlouhy, Hearst Newspapers
Tuesday, February 14, 2006
(02-14) 04:00 PST Washington -- The Bush administration spent at least $1.6 billion on public relations and advertising campaigns over 30 months, according to a report released Monday by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.
SOURCE - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/02/14/MNG2JH80H61.DTL - spartansblade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Then debate the facts they show. otherwise your "argument" is pointless
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9@gcnlivedotcom
As a Christian, I have no problem with calling you an insane nutjob. You need to get yourself checked into a mental ward. Or move to a fundamentalist-filled state such as Alabama. - ptsd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4people who dont bother to read the linked article should keep their mouths shut. regardless of whether you think alex jones is a nutcase or not. the photo wasnt being used as evidence of anything. if you had read the article you would have seen the numerous linked sites that the author was using to justify his position.
for example:
http://www.spp.gov/
http://money.canoe.ca/News/Other/2007/02/23/3659313-cp.html
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52164
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/SPPFOIADocsSecI.pdf
http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21265911.shtml
alex jones may be a nutcase, but so is anyone who instantly dismisses any and all conspiracies.
personally i think people like you are worse than the conspiracy theorists. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3the gov't is the only thing standing between us and corporations repealing ---errr --- "deregulating" things like [child] labor laws and minimum wage.
The more local the more responsive to the needs of the locals.
By ceding your power to multi-nationals that influence policy you are in essence ceding power to a one-world gov't that you have no say in at all.
Maybe you will understand when Toyota and Honda buy all the US car companies?
so yes, consider getting more local instead of trying to "compete" against slave labor - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can't scare me not to look at stuff with your stupid fantasies, and you mention:
"You hear Bob's hanging out with Joe? You know what that means..."
When most people don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Look, why don't you just tell me what's wrong with the article or how the NAU isn't happening?
Oh yeah - because you can't.
Idiot.
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Infowars.com... PrisonPlanet.com... SaveTheInternet.com... FreedomtoFascism.com... RonPaul.org... - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2I say let's keep posting infowars articles so that all of your ignorance dies.
- Becca4RonPaul, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2Occam's Razor only applies to naturalistic events--for the purpose of straightforward observational science. Naturally speaking, a lightning bolt will cause a fire in combustible materials, but naturalistic processes will not self-organize a steam engine--however, intelligence can. Intelligence can infuse much higher complexity to a system, and thus Occam's Razor is not specifically applicable to social constructs. Even if we apply the basic truth of Occam's Razor (the simplest explanation, which requires the least amount of assumption, is usually true), we have to proceed with caution and humility, with an awareness of AS MANY OF THE RELEVANT FACTS as possible. The evidence for a "New World Order" "conspiracy" for global governance has been spelled out time and time again unashamedly by its proponents in upper levels of international government--it's in speeches, in videos, in books and essays from globalist think tanks, in memoirs of powerful elites, in United Nations reports, declassified government documents, and journalistic reporting (where they aren't too cowardly or accidentally stumble upon things). There is so much evidence that this is going on it almost requires willful blindness not to see it. Like PTSD said, look at the damn links Jones provides--links to reputable newspapers and to the SPP WEBSITE for crying out loud. Occam's Razor is not an excuse for ignorance.
- gcnlivedotcom, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3Oh I see you want me to get checked in to a mental ward to be re wired to think like you. You use some pretty derogatory terms like "nutjob" and "fundamentalist". Are these buzzwords you throw out your way of closing down a point of view you disagree with without first having properly discussed or listened to what the other side is saying. You and many like you are not hard for the elite to divide and conquer, we should be on the same side, the side of truth. Another question is it more mad to believe something because the majority know no different or you risk being marginalized or worse called a kook, or is it more mad to acknowledge the truth and facts based in scientific reality, if you can answer these questions without prejudice, bias and with complete intellectual honesty I would be impressed. Now there is a challenge for you, and when you get over your own personal deluded phase perhaps we can have some healthy debate on what you disagree on with me giving evidence on a fair playing field. If you can not debate me then I see you as lost and I win the argument by default.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7What will a North American Union look like? It will be a Plutocracy.
The Right Wing "new world order" crazies dont seem to recognize that this will be the far-right Libertarian economic model being implemented. 100% protection for capital from democratic bodies... totally anti-democractic.
Im Canadian, I dont want a ***** North American Union because i dont want to be a wageslave to The Existing American Plutocracy. - sil5er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2ah what the heck ....
Infowars.com... PrisonPlanet.com... rock my life.
I'm here now party people ... game on. - Erich100, on 02/07/2008, -0/+2Because the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights will be replaced with UN documents that are repressive by comparison.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You're fantasizing again.
The point is we don't "know" what the big deal is, and when they don't tell us that's suspicious.
If they'd come clean about the NAU from the beginning we wouldn't even be having this conversation - we'd have accepted it or rejected it, and moved on. The fact is the changes being proposed from all accounts are massive, and they're indoctrinating us to tell each other "chill-out, it's cool" when we can't have an intelligent conversation about it.
That's what you're doing now: telling me not to worry about something you don't know anything about.
(sigh)
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Infowars.com... PrisonPlanet.com... SaveTheInternet.com... FreedomtoFascism.com... RonPaul.org... - konamicode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Unites against us" or "Defends their economy/culture"?
Not flamebait, an honest question. - Erich100, on 02/07/2008, -0/+2Free markets do not require the loss of American sovereignty and the destruction of the US constitution.
The North American Union is merely a stepping stone to The New World Order as the European Union is.
It is much more than "trade agreements." - catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I'm still waiting for the massive terror false-flag operation that Alex said would happen 6 months ago and for the US to open their prison camps to put us all in. When that happens, I will start worrying about the NAU conspiracy.
Heck, a guy can only worry about a few far-reaching world wide conspiracies at a time. - directedition, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I'm pretty sure as the decades go by, the EU will be the only thing keeping China from being the next largest world super-power.
- LittleDanzig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Considering our government's horrible track record with keeping 'conspiracy' secrets in the past (Iran-Contra, anyone?) I find it very hard to believe that this could have existed for any amount of time without being made public.
- Observant1, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2good for a laugh about what we get to deal with
http://digg.com/comedy/Herkimer56_the_biggest_THWA ... - monergism, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Let's see.
Bush (and 90% of other politicians) secretly permit an open border.
Mexico has cheap labor.
Central America has oil.
S. America has cheap land.
Every Empire NEEDS slave labor and cheap resources. The fact that we pay Mexico, China and others well below an acceptable wage is slavery.
Americans are great. America is less great. - elebrio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fair point. I guess my opinion is that the EU has been formed to increase their collective bargaining power in the face of the USA, Japan and China. And if you look at the way the EU and France particularly have treated companies like Microsoft and Apple does my assertion of the EU uniting against us seem far fetched?
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2or our exclaimaint marks, apparently
- Observant1, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1not with the rate these traitors in power in the US keep feeding China.
- spartansblade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And your bias against a source stopped you? Then prove the claims are wrong and debate the facts.
- spartansblade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The problem is that when they do create a North American Union it will strip us of our sovereignty. We have already been merging programs with Mexico and Canada and there's build boards promoting the super highway they are going to build to connect the union. Then down the road for replacing our currency with the amero.
Here's someone easily more informed than I talking about the situation.
Stan Jones running for Senate, talks about NAFTA and the The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America
http://digg.com/politics/Stan_Jones_running_for_Senate_talks_about_NAFTA_and_SPP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M5GK9Na8KU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Finfowars%2Ecom%2Farticles%2Fus%2Fvideo%5Flibertarian%5Fstan%5Fjones%5Fmontana%5Ftells%5Ftruth%2Ehtm - spartansblade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought so.
- elebrio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Protectionism doesn't work. Minimum wage is a born loser. Free Markets do more good than any government institution. Government should only regulate in the case of market failures (think follow-the-leader by the airline industry in the 80's). Regulation just tacks on cost to the consumer. I'm not a xenophobe so your arguments just don't resonate with me. I drive a Honda already because they make a better car than American companies for the price. I would NEVER reward an American company (solely for being American) with my hard earned dollars for producing an inferior product.
- inactive, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1Okay. If you say so.
- gcnlivedotcom, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1It took me no time to think about what I wrote as it is the truth, only I delayed responding to the ad hominem remarks until yesterday as this was the first time that I read this comment, even a year on. If you think I have been thinking about this comment for the past year then you are greatly mistaken my friend as I first read your comment yesterday thus the delayed response. Your joke was quite amusing though, maybe you could become a comedian and stand up for 911 truth.
- konamicode, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Go prophesy yourself some spellcheck, troll.
- jspegele, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1love the animated gif leftover from the '04 election
- LaueOfficer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1You have been blocked for spam as this is the 5th time i have seen you post this link in totally unrelated articles, good day sir!
- ajakz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Dear followers of Alex Jones, if you hate the "New World Order" and how it is cremating care of humanity, and profiting from war mongering. Why are you giving energy to hate speech that promotes civil war. This guy is a plant. The people he is ranting about have him on the pay role. They're sitting in there mansion fortresses surrounded by private security forces, counting war bucks, saying, "oh please Mr. America don't throw us all into that Brier patch of more pointless war, I don't think I'll ever count all my money now!" Think about who this agenda is really going to help. The masses being microwaved in the streets, or those selling the microwave.
- danzarrella, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1a conspiracy like this:
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Friends_2_0_New_Consulting_Firm_Offers_to_Optimize_your_Social_Lif - elebrio, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4So America should go it alone while Europe unites against us? Sorry but I'm a free market guy and opening up stronger trading ties with our immediate neighbors is good for us in the long term. You people are ***** whackos if you buy any of the crap in this article. Marked Inaccurate.
- mousky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1What's the big deal? The United States of America is a union of 50 states. Canada is a union of 10 provinces and 3 territories. The United Kingdom is a union of four countries. The Commonwealth of Australia was the union of six colonies. On and on.
- modestmouse, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Wow, have you guys looked at the stuff they post on this site? Are they funded by the LaRouche people? My new policy is to block anyone who posts stories from this site as real news.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -4/+1It took you more than a year to come up with an answer to that posting? No one is ever going to accuse you of having a quick mind.
- directedition, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Sorry gnclive, article burried, I guess 'truth' is going to have to wait another day. Too bad your almighty 'God' can't seem to keep the truth from being buried on a news feed website.
- dan537, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I really hate the fact that I won't be able to read the comments that people attached to the first post because I blocked this user.
- LittleDanzig, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Every time somebody references an Infowars link as a credible source, a little part of me dies.
I'm as liberal as they come, but this kind of tinfoil hat rambling makes all of us look REALLY bad. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Oh for god's sake I can't believe I read 3/4 of that article before seeing it was on InfoWars.
Waste of 5 minutes of my life. - deviationer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3OH ***** NOES BRING OUT THE ***** TIN HATS!
idiots. - directedition, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Is this person serious? How did a 9/11 conspiracy nut get the front page?
- Sparkster185, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I love how you capitalize "God", but not "Satan", or "The Bible".
- gcnlivedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -21/+4I dug this story and alex's counter stayed on five on the main screen, I dig something else and it registers it. The new world order are everywhere, but they can't defeat the truth, well only as much as in certain people's minds allows them to, but they are not greater than God Almighty who will crush satan beneath our feet in the day of judgement. You people who sneer at truth and call us mad conspiracy theorists will only get away with it for so long and then will have to face that great and fearfull day of the LORD. Anyway the bible did prophesy these things, but you people who love lies and propagate them will have to give an accounting of yourselves to the one who is the judge and creator of the universe unless you seriously repent and receive his forgiveness in Christ.
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