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- Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -4/+57I would disagree with your statement that Obama is the same as any other politician out there. Look at the way he handles issues such as his past drug use ("well of course I inhaled, that was the point") the Iraq war (criticizing the war and its handling but choosing a more thoughtful approach to new solutions rather than a more ideological one) and religion (I'm not a big fan of religion, but all I really care is that folks don't get too preachy or nutty about it) and you'll see something pretty unlike something we've seen in mainstream American politics for a while.
Of course he is a political player with a lot of political savvy. But I get the impression for him that he knows how to play the game, as any must do to be successful, while still remaining his own man.
Plus, he can speak well... I mean, can you imagine that? A president who could get through a sentence without embarrassing himself and the whole nation by proxy?
I really hope he runs and gets elected. I think it'll send a powerful message to the rest of the world, cause them to think twice and say, "Hmm, maybe America isn't as crazy as we thought after all..." - t3soro, on 10/12/2007, -6/+47I'm a conservative (not a republican...any more), and I don't agree with much of anything the Dems say, HOWEVER, I will vote for Obama just to get my dignity as an American back, we need a leader who is intelligent and who can think for himself, which matters more at this point to me than political policy. If I know he is putting a thorough thought process into what he does, then I'm alright with that, even if I don't agree with it.
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30ilyag you might want to start here http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Hasnt done anything???
Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 (aka Coburn-Obama Transparency Bill)
"an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget."
Seems like a good step... - MattL920, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28I'm sick of hearing about Bush, but the bastard still keeps popping up all over the place.
- HarrisonFire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20But being an aging movie star, or playing the saxophone on MTV while wearing cool shades, or being the son of a former POTUS are excellent reasons.
- giantAppleCore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20@adam84a: Your inability to do research doesn't make someone a bad candidate. What reasons do you want?
Honesty? Check - Told the truth about his drug use
Intelligent? Check - Elected president of the Harvard Law Review, Taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School
Leadership? Check - Obama and his wife took HIV tests at a Kenyan clinic to encourage others to take them, and that they were safe.
More available of course, but you should be able to take your first few steps into the research river with those. - CableCarrier, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17That is the dumbest reason ever to not support someone.
- dankoleary, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Obama is unique in that he has so far been a decent human being. For a politician, that's incredibly difficult.
- giantAppleCore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The reason I submitted it was we're still not sure if Obama is running, and probably wont know until January, but we can make guesses by where he decides to go. He mentioned earlier, that if he runs, he'd concede Iowa before it began, to Vilsack, so, his first stop and probably where he would spend a ton of time would be New Hampshire, so his visit there is news, though, I acknowledge some people don't care... though, I'm guessing most of those people wouldn't throw away their time specifying that they don't care.
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15"No mainstream poltician is going to correct this massive waste of resources. This is our path until our national bankruptcy."
Well, then, we are *****. If your resigned to your fate, quit bitching. The rest of us want to give it a shot.
Obama is the one guy potentially running that feels like he might actually be able to form his own opinion, so thats good enough for me. - dknighton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Your statement only shows that you know absolutely nothing about Obama.
Here before us is a man who can heal the divide between both ends of the political spectrum. He is a master at something 95% of the other politicians have long since forgotten...respect. His opinions reflect experience, thoughtfulness, and a healthy realization that you do not change people's minds by berating their ideas.
If Obama decides to run, he will win in a landslide. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17I think I'm fairly knowledgeable about politics, and I read up some things on Obama (including his Wikipedia entry), and I still have NO IDEA what the hell the guy stands for (and I bet neither do most of you). Just about the only thing people talk about is that he's apparently smart, likable, and that he apparently has integrity.
Is there some kind of a comprehensive source that lists his views on an issue-by-issue basis (other than his book)? Because I'm honestly curious. - dygel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Oh, and before anyone goes shooting their opinions off around here without checking the safety, check your facts. Use http://thomas.loc.gov/ to pull down the resolutions, bills, amendments and such sponsored by any given Senator or Representative.
Obama has, in his one term, sponsored or co-sponsored 151 pieces of business during the 109th Congress. By comparison, Clinton co/sponsored 175, McCain 140, Lott 82, Santorum 234, Kennedy 224, Durbin 181, Kerry 139, Dole 49, and Frist 193.
So, compared to his peers he's not the most prolific sponsor of business, but he's far, far from the least. - Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9This is why it's important to focus on voting records. Politicians will not go out and talk about social security, gay marriage, or immigration. Hot button issues - 2 of which shouldn't generate the debate they do in the country right now - are the third rail. You don't go near them unless you have to.
If you check his voting records, however, you'll find they can't spin politics. He's pro-immigration and supports civil unions and equality. He doesn't support the term "gay marriage" but supports financial equality for homosexuals.
You have to understand politics to realize why politicians cant go out and say what everyone else is thinking. If he says "I dont support gay marriage but I do support marriage equality and I believe homosexuals to be no different than anyone else," Hilary Clinton runs with the quote "I don't support gay marriage."
What i'm trying to say is, look at what they do, not what they say. You figure after 8 years of Bush people would learn this by now, but apparently that message needs to be hammered home. - dygel, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Because his term as a Senator has, until now, been as a part of the minority party. If you were expecting him to actually accomplish something other than creating talking points, you clearly overestimate what a minority party is capable of.
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9
for example, this should not count
3. S.RES.291 : A resolution to congratulate the Chicago White Sox on winning the 2005 World Series Championship.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 10/27/2005) Cosponsors (1)
Latest Major Action: 10/27/2005 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Submitted in the Senate, considered, and agreed to without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent. - overeasyeggs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Obama FTW!!!
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is why you lost the last election.
- quaunaut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I used to be a pretty big fan of Obama, and still am- but I don't want him for President until I hear what he wants to do. I've never heard a speech from him accounting anything different from all the other democrats, and otherwise he's just a good speech giver- and at that, rather vague. I want to see him get more specific before I completely endorse.
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7the number of things he has sponsored or co-sponsored means nothing, what was the content of the things he put his name to, that is what really matters.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8So what? So, he was a law school professor - has he fought against the violations of our Constitutional rights by this current administration? - NO."
Please read. The above comments, wikipedia, newsweek, Us Weekly. I don't care. Get off Digg, google Obama and please ***** read.
The man cosponsored a bill that was directly designed to fight the corruption of this administration and....wait for it....EVERY ADMINISTRATION IN THE FUTURE. He wanted to give the people the power to see exactly where each and every tax dollar was going. This includes things like illegal wars, lobbyists, prostitutes, committees, transportation fees, etc etc. - herculez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Why is it that only a few states actually matter in the primary process? How democratic is that? We need a single national primary election day. The same goes for only a few states mattering in presidential campaigning cause of the electoral college, but I digress.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@Ja
Voted no on extending the Patriot Act's wiretapping. It seems no one wants to read on Digg today...even on content they posted themselves. - Jwoey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@Popdmb
"its your job to draw the conclusion from his book"
I wish I could digg you twice. Don't align yourself based on how other people have characterized him. Characterize him yourself. This is such an important thing for the public to learn. - washingtonydc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No (especially because it doesn't matter--they're AP stories), but we've had about five front page stories all from this small media outlet. just seems odd.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@chris
No he doesn't examine his own character, it's your job to draw the conclusion from his book. It is, however, an incredible read. Nice to see a politician who can speak and write well.
*re-reads what he just wrote*
Is it not sad that I'm excited about a politician who can speak and write? - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Spot on. Obama just talks about, for example with the border issue, "comprehensive approaches." This basically means "I have no plan, but if I make it sound complex enough, I don't have to explain it to you."
- Palmetto, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I don't want him to do anything. If he does nothing as president, I may vote for him. Nothing is better than the mess we are in now.
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Judging by his stand on some key issues he will not get my vote, but check out how he has voted and what he has said in the past and draw your own conclusions
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm - giantAppleCore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I agree, or, we should fix our elections so that more than 2 people can run for president and have a hope of winning. But either way, Iowa, New Hampshire etc, shouldn't have so much power. So many politicians claim to support Ethanol because it plays well in Iowa.
- Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Right, well, I wouldn't be surprised if Bush is a decent human being when you get to know him, but when you look at his policies and rhetoric that's not really the impression I get.
Since it's a president's policies, politics and rhetoric that's going to affect the world I live in, not how he is with his friends and families, that's what I'm most concerned about as far as whether or not to vote for him. - Jwoey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4does it have to be written by someone in New York/LA to be interesting?
- SLuM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Either him or Wesley Clark but if it all boils down, let's face it--most people won't vote for him because of his skin color. I would
- Jwoey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I sort of agree with you, but I don't think "most" people will vote against him because of his skin color, just that "some" wont.. and that could easily be enough to keep him out.
- giantAppleCore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Buelldozer: Granted, I agree that "most" was the wrong word, but, do you think that there aren't ANY racists in the US? And surely some of them would go to the polls just to vote against the person with the black skin. Probably not a lot, but, the margin between victory and an "also ran" typically isn't a lot either
- earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Popdmb
exactly my point. you draw up the conclusions based from his very personal writing. I think the book is a fantastic read - NookYouLurDave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've actually met Mr. Obama on several occasions, back when he was just another guy coming into the video store I worked at. From what I remember, he was a pretty nice guy who lived in an apartment in Hyde Park (Chicago neighborhood). He has the whole "From humble beginnings" thing about him. While I know nothing about him politically, I DO know his daddy wasn't president, and that he passed a resolution to congratulate the Sox on a world series Victory! It seems to me that Kennedy was a very popular president because people could relate to him, mabye the same can be said about Mr. Obama.
- rheaume, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I really like this guy but I seriously doubt that Americans are smart enough as a whole to elect a black man to be a president, and if they did, he better have a name like John Apple Pie because I have a feeling Obama is too close to Osama.
Maybe he should go with a single name like Cher, Madonna,etc
Barack in 2008! - PopcornDave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@robbh66
No, this headline: "Frist to announce new haircut. Won't look like playdough press mold anymore"
At least that would be interesting... - dboylon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yes...at least somebody has an accurate view of Obama
- variant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree, but the only thing is that depending on who wins in '08, he may lose a lot of his momentum, even within his own party.
- foofightrs777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Americans also can't tell the difference between a 'b' and an 's'. Have our public schools gotten that bad?
- earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I suggest everyone read his new book "The Audacity of Hope". Very good read on many levels including examining his character. I think Obama could be the "great hope" for this country, without being too dramatic about that term.
We'll see how it goes but as of now I see myself going strong for Obama '08 - giantAppleCore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Jwoey: Lives there, submitting stories posted by this paper has made it easier to submit dupe free stories. But, I may have posted a few too many. I didn't think this many would make the front page.
- milarepa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I say this with a heavy heart: keep dreamin'
- pineapples10, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3WHat makes me proud is that so far none of the commentors on this thread have used the words 'black' or 'african american'. We've been discussing politics, not his race, which I think shows that this nation is ready for a black president.
- scottalanewing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2And he has a sense of humor:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6507106 - Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@jawood
Completely agreed, and you'll notice that Obama has done a lot. It's nice to see what he does AND what he says fit together into a little something I haven't seen in awhile from the American presidency.
Truth. - Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He anchors himself to be opposed to the war. (Along with pretty much everyone else...including the administration that is now working to get us the hell out of there)
Look at his voting record.
Interestingly enough, check out the 'About Us' section of the article you sourced:
http://www.counterpunch.org/aboutus.html
These guys are saying OBAMA doesnt know who he is? I re-read that four times and I have no idea what they stand for...or in this case....don't stand for. All I know is that they're muckrakers and don't like MSNBC. Excellent work! *thumbs up* -
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