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- franklymister, on 10/05/2008, -7/+228If the Republicans would focus on their actual policies and positions, I might actually be willing to listen to them once in a while.
For at least 20 years now, Republican politics have been all about attack, attack, attack. People like Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove have cemented their reputation as a party that only cares about winning at all costs. I think it's doing them a disservice.
Regular Americans who don't see themselves as part of a partisan "team" don't like to be told that we are stupid for our values or who we vote for. When Republicans play dirty like this, it just makes it hard for anyone who's not "on the team" to listen to what they have to say. They want us to believe that questioning the government, or suggesting that there might be a better way to behave as a country, means that we are un-American, stupid, or worse.
I love America, I love the Constitution, I believe in thinking for oneself, I think curiosity is a virtue, and I think words like "elite," "liberal," and "intellectual" are compliments. If the Republicans want to ever get my vote, they better learn to respect that. - duckley, on 10/05/2008, -27/+184McCain = Bush = Losers.
Neo-Cons - They LOVE "Amerika", but hate actual Americans. - torgarman, on 10/05/2008, -6/+91Here's a good video that discounts Obama's relationship with Rezko
http://www.factcheck.org/just-the-facts/rezko_reed ... - FairNUnBalanced, on 10/05/2008, -6/+86Same vile Bush / Carl Rove "dogwhistle" politics only with a new vulgar racist slant. Lob it over the top of the "liberal mainstream media filter" straight to the racists.
Obama hates America.
Obama hates soldiers.
Obama has ties to terrorism.
Obama associates with angry scary militant black men.
By the way, have you ever seen an Obama ad about McCain's Keating 5 corruption? His cancer ridden secret medical records? His outlandish lies about collecting his daughter from Mother Theresa!? His cheating on his crippled wife with his new criminal, drug addicted slut whom he calls a *****?
Nah, that would be out of bounds, but I suppose even if he did it would be allwhite. I mean alright. - workfaster, on 10/05/2008, -4/+75Hitting McCain as "dishonest and dishonorable" is perfect. Hit him in his supposed strength, his "honor", which is long gone...
- LooseFur, on 10/05/2008, -6/+66The Obama/Biden camp are absolute pros who are rewriting the playbook on campaigns. This is yet more proof of that.
- operasara, on 10/05/2008, -8/+64Poor republicans, their policies suck
- jackieblu, on 10/05/2008, -4/+60Rove, Bush, Cheney, & McCain your days of controlling people with fear tactics-and lies are numbered!
- fuzzmeister, on 10/05/2008, -2/+55This is obviously a desperate move by the McCain campaign, as there is no way he is going to prevail if the main topic continues to be the economy.
On another note, I love how McCain's attacks on Obama concerning Ayers source a NYT article that concludes: "the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.' " - TigerStar337, on 10/05/2008, -3/+56This is a tweet I received on twitter:
I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…
If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic” and “different”. Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers; you’re an American story.
If your name is Barack, you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, and you’re a maverick.
Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, then you’re well-grounded.
If you spend 3 years as a community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, help register 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, 8 years as a State Senator of a district of 750,000 people, chair the state Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people, sponsor 131 bills, and serve on the Foreign Affairs, Environmental and Public Works, and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
If your resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as a mayor of a town of 7,000 people, 2 years as governor of a state of 650,000 people, you’re qualified to be a heartbeat away form the presidency.
If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian. If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, left your ill wife, and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.
If you teach responsible, age-appropriate sex education, including the use of birth control, you erode the fiber of American society. If you staunchly advocate abstinence-only education, while your teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re responsible.
If you tax windfall profits to the Oil companies and use it to distribute 1000$ checks to people of Alaska you are a "MAVERICK". If you propose to do the same at Federal level you are a "SOCIALIST".
If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, you don’t represent America’s family values. If your husband is called “first dude”, has a DUI conviction, didn’t register to vote until 25, and was a member of a group that advocated secession of Alaska from the USA, yours is the quintessential American family.
And, finally, if you’re famous for your quick temper, you’re the one to have your finger on the red nuclear button.
OK, much clearer now.
Obama/Biden '08/'12 - richmond461, on 10/05/2008, -10/+62Great article
- Depthfunction, on 10/05/2008, -3/+44"from the beaches of Hawaii thru the elite private Punahou High to Harvard, this radical leftie has coasted"
Riiiiight, because a half-white, half-black boy named "Barack Obama" growing up without a father in the 1960s would have so many privileges handed to him. Yeah, he's never had to face adversity. - Ralphdraw3, on 10/05/2008, -1/+41McCain has all kinds of connections to selfish, greedy lobbyists, a surprising number of whom find their way onto McCain's staff....
Like Rick Davis??
LET'S START SLINGING THE MUD!!!! - smacksaw, on 10/05/2008, -1/+36Here's my pre-emptive Obama video"
Intro with Palin, "No, in fact, when we talk about the Bush administration, there's a time, too, when Americans are going to say, "Enough is enough with your ticket," on constantly looking backwards, and pointing fingers, and doing the blame game."
To Obama speaking: "My opponents don't want to focus on the mistakes of their party, the jobs lost, homes foreclosed, people in distress. They want to lie about acquaintances from my past. Is that the sort of solutions you expect from your politicians? I'm here to talk about the issues. Are they?" - relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -2/+37If there's one thing I can't stand more than anything else, its people like you, kithogan, who have to lean on charged language like "radical leftie" as a crutch to formulate a semi-decent argument about somebody you disagree with. He isn't a Marxist or a Socialist, he's a Democratic capitalist. He isn't for redistribution of wealth, he's for a more fair tax code and less of an economic burden to the lower and middle class.
By the way, you can write "Barack Hussein Obama" a hundred million times, but that doesn't keep you from looking like someone who's at a loss for legitimate criticism and is actually frightened by something so innocuous as a middle name. - torgarman, on 10/05/2008, -3/+37Here's a link debunking the connection between Obama and Bill Ayers. It's a pretty weak link between the two.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/0 ... - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/05/2008, -3/+35"Obama-Biden communications director Dan Pfeiffer said about the new ads: “If John McCain thinks he can ‘turn the page’ on the economic crisis facing American families, he is even more out of touch than we imagined. Now there may be no good answers for John McCain due to his erratic response to the financial crisis, but his desire to avoid discussing the economy is something we will remind voters of everyday for the next month.” E-V-E-R-Y-D-A-Y
The mud is going to fly in October.
Fianlly we begin to see Obama not just as a superb reactionary tactician - but as a strike-first proactive strategist.
In the name of America, Sen Obama: Bury McCain's sorry ass in the dark pit he has dug for himself... and then seal it closed on November 4th.
McCain/Palin: RIP 2008. - toptopics, on 10/05/2008, -4/+33way to go!
- cheesegypsy, on 10/05/2008, -3/+32Swift-boating worked once, but as George Bush said, "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
- FairNUnBalanced, on 10/05/2008, -0/+29You're a little slow, but thanks for at least catching up to the rest of the group. It's an ironic
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony
list of stories the Obama campaign DOESN'T campaign on.
And with respect to their truth or untruth. Do a little research.
mccain cheated wife --CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, YouTube
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=mccain+cheat ...
McCain Won't Release Medical Records -- N.Y. Times
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/09/mccain-wo ...
"Somehow you just got to go over the heads of the filter and speak directly to the American people," -- George W Bush
http://www.slate.com/id/2089915/
"McCain temper boiled over in '92 tirade, called wife a '*****'" --The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter,
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_bo ...
"...addiction to Percocet and Vicodin, and the fact that she stole the drugs from her own nonprofit medical relief organization" - Dateline, Good Morning America
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/drugs ...
McCain Keating Five Corruption
http://mccainkeatingfive.com/
The Anatomy of a Deception: How The McCains Changed Their Baby Adoption Story Just Before 2008 Campaign Began
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-nickolas/the-an ... - brianjlowry, on 10/05/2008, -4/+28Apparently, Obama caught "8-Mile" on HBO recently. I like the preemptive attack.
- inactive, on 12/08/2008, -0/+23Good points, well written. If more people thought the way you do, instead of being in this horrendous "culture war", maybe we could find some middle ground where we don't all hate everyone who belongs to a different political party.
Hey, I can dream, can't I? - rhabd0mancer, on 10/05/2008, -3/+25Both McCain and Palin are tax cheats. I think we need to investigate McCain's unreported gambling winnings.
- cheesegypsy, on 10/05/2008, -1/+22My kid is mixed-race, but privileged. Let me tell you something, though, that kid at 6 already knows he's different, and not in a good way, thanks to bigot parents who train their bigot kids to be like them. And this is in ***** 2008. I can't imagine the kind of ***** Obama had to put up with when he was growing up. So you can bet that just going to school was often a crisis like it is for my kid.
As for Save the USA, save it from what? Remember, we are all immigrants here unless you happen to be Native American. I'm tired of all these cocky conservatives pretending that they own this country because their ancestors drove people off their lands, enslaved a continent, and have inhabited the land for a couple hundred years.
We are lucky visitors to this country who have the privilege to live under the Constitution and we will always be indebted to the people whose lands we stole and to the Natives whose ancestors we killed. - rednip, on 10/05/2008, -0/+20Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me; fool me every election cycle, then I must be a Republican voter.
- franklymister, on 10/05/2008, -3/+22Nurse forget your meds today?
- fuzzmeister, on 10/05/2008, -0/+19If you're looking for people with whom Ayers has had loose affiliation, then it's essentially the entire Chicago political scene, as he's very involved there. I don't think the fact that Obama participated in that scene ties him in any scandalous way to what Ayers did in the 60s.
- SifuMoKung, on 10/05/2008, -2/+20They don't have a platform. When people within their own party espouse the values they claim to nurture, those people are branded as "extremists" or "Libertarian whackos". The only thing the majority of Republicans work for are bribes from big companies. Don't mistake me, I think there is plenty of Democrat corruption to go around as well, but with Democrats it isn't part of the normal operating procedure. Republicans have allowed greed to become part of their culture. They lie, deny evidence, slander and steal. They are disciplined and united about it. It's a team *****-job. With Democrats, they suffer in-fighting, ego battles, and ambition over principle. They can all go to hell. I'm voting for Obama because I hope his limited time in the Senate hasn't corrupted him too much. He certainly seems more educated and pragmatic that either McCain or Palin. But I don't trust him, really. I don't trust any of them. I don't even trust Ron Paul, even amidst all the laurels he has thrust upon him by the tech-savvy youth. This election, like all of them, is a choice for the lesser evil. Obama can restore my faith by delivering on his promises. If he is not all he claims to be, he is at least a much better liar than McCain. Anyone who actually thinks he gives a *****, is a dolt.
- MWeather, on 10/05/2008, -1/+18How about we cut the doublespeak and just call them Fascists?
- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/05/2008, -1/+18"I have a feeling though that Obama has something big in his armoury that he just hasn't used yet."
You're right.
It's called McCain and the Keating 5 - Savings and Loan Crisis. - yeahaboutthat, on 10/05/2008, -3/+19In my encounters with various republicans over recent weeks, it has become apparent to me that many have grown just as disgusted with McCain as the dems. Republicans are not, by and large, any dumber or thick-headed than their democratic counterparts, and many are simply, absolutely, FED UP with what has happened in the past 8 years to our once great nation.
No one likes to say it out loud, but at this point, the election is Obama's to lose. While it's always difficult to gauge the validity of this or that poll, when nearly all of them point out that McCain is either losing or tied with Obama in the 11 key battleground states, and where McCain can't afford to lose EVEN ONE of those states, the writing is on the wall.
I'm just hoping that we, as a nation, finally develop the gumptin to go after the criminals that have wrecked this country, If we can get a Black man in the White House, we can get Bush and Cheney arrested, tried, convicted, and put away! No matter what, we can't let the discourse after the election become one of "healing" and "moving forward" without going after these bastards in such a way as to cripple their power and neo-conservative agenda for decades to come.
- topcat5, on 10/05/2008, -2/+18Last month, 159,000 people lost their jobs and 25 soldiers lost their lives in Iraq, and all we get from Palin is endless sarcasm presented in the 3rd person. Who is "They"?
The people are tired of it. - JLSN, on 10/05/2008, -2/+17The media just pointed out that McSame has former ties with some radical right wing group known for their ANTISEMITISM.
That will play weel in Florida as apparently McSame HATES JEWS.
Does McSame really want to play the guilt by association game? - Plasmatica, on 10/05/2008, -0/+15I wonder why they haven't hit him with Keating 5? Maybe saving the best for last.
- MediaWeasel, on 10/05/2008, -3/+18Hmmm. By attacking Obama again with all this garbage, Mccain can hide behind the crap in his career - the last few weeks the focus has been on Palin so he hasn't had as tough a ride as it could have been.
I have a feeling though that Obama has something big in his armoury that he just hasn't used yet. - SifuMoKung, on 10/05/2008, -0/+14Convicted felons post on Digg.
kithogan posts on Digg
ergo, kithogan is a felon, or supporter of felons.
Do you dispute your own logic? - ChronicColonic, on 10/05/2008, -0/+14Your genius is showing....
- tmackb1991, on 10/05/2008, -3/+16as a conservative...this really just makes me look bad...
- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/05/2008, -2/+15It was just as much a fable as all of McCain's claims.
- loconet, on 10/05/2008, -3/+14I can't wait until this is all over and McCain and Palin get their asses kicked back into political irrelevancy. (I hope).
C'mon America, open your eyes. Don't screw it up. - SifuMoKung, on 10/05/2008, -3/+14Here are some straws, grasp them.
- pintomp3, on 10/05/2008, -0/+11as the economy gets worse, you are starting to hear it more. they were just talking about it on "meet the press". it's even getting brought up on "the view". sheri shepherd may not know if the earth is round but she knows about keating five.
- yosserhughes, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10You won the prize Nobi, you're the first user I've ever blocked.
- k3rfuffl3, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10You're too ignorant to be American and even an idiot like McCain is a better person than you could ever be.
- WasabiBomb, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10Anyone who uses Obama's middle name as a feeble attempt to imply that he's a terrorist is both naive AND stupid.
- Infidelcastr0, on 10/05/2008, -1/+11I don't care if he was a POW, John McCain has done nothing but disgrace himself over and over again during this campaign.
I, and a lot of other people I know used to see McCain as one of the "decent Republicans," before we really knew what he was about. Back when I knew him as "that one Republican who wants work with Democrats and clean up campaign financing."
As I've learned more about him though I have to wonder if the man ever had any integrity. The POW story makes it sound like he did at one point, but from his family history, to the Keating 5 affair, to the way hes running his current campaign, and has turned in to such a filthy neocon, not to mention Palin, It's becoming clearer and clearer that McCain is simply a desperate, corrupt, old sleazebag with a dangerous temper.
Imagine if this guy had the launch codes. - pintomp3, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10it goes back even further. reagan took partisanship to the next level when he proclaimed:
"Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - Peekman, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10You don't actually remember that story do you????
It was the hare who ridiculed the Tortoise for like his short feet and slowness.... and the hare that went to sleep.....
McCain's speeches put me to sleep.... and Obama has taken most of the ridicule..... so if anything, you got it backwards. - inactive, on 10/05/2008, -1/+11Actually, I don't and wouldn't. But it is amazing how many Republican trolls generalize, like you.
- Peekman, on 10/05/2008, -0/+9wow... welcome to 1965...
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