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- inactive, on 06/27/2009, -14/+250Dugg for innocuous title.
- vlmusicalsound, on 06/27/2009, -7/+216I got excited for a second thinking Obama actually said that.
- inactive, on 06/27/2009, -17/+203LOL the nytimes should have run the article with the submitter's title.
- cupcrazy1027, on 06/27/2009, -3/+169Article does not live up to the title...
- novenator, on 06/27/2009, -16/+145Ahmadinejad, the conservative hardliner has proved something to the world in the last couple weeks: he is an illegitimate fool who would rather oppress dissent than address the concerns of his people. Whenever a regime takes this approach, it's days are limited (with a few notable exceptions in the world, such as Myanmar).
- inactive, on 06/27/2009, -15/+97"The violence perpetrated against them is outrageous. We see it and we condemn it," Mr. Obama said.
Republicans finally got their "STRONGLY WORDED STATEMENT."
And it did as much good as we all knew it wouldn't. - rustchild, on 06/27/2009, -4/+48Errr... the description reads like it was Obama's WORDS that caused the beatings and killings. That is seriously poor phrasing.
- nicksource, on 06/27/2009, -2/+43Thanks for repeating the title, I was finding the really big blue text difficult to read.
- orangefly, on 06/27/2009, -3/+33i had forgotten it by the time i scrolled down here....he saved me the time of having to scroll back up....
- seanayb, on 06/27/2009, -10/+39I don't often find myself praising Obama, but I do very much approve of the way he's handling himself about the Iran situation.
- brownsound00, on 06/27/2009, -2/+29wut
- sulthernao, on 06/27/2009, -2/+28We might even be the same person. o_0
- Danby123, on 06/27/2009, -4/+29You guys both have the same profile pic.
- sulthernao, on 06/27/2009, -6/+27It's just "pretty words" after all.
/McCain sneer. - drewkinney, on 06/27/2009, -0/+21Perhaps the "Washington Times" should have used that title.
Or rather, perhaps you should pay attention to the source! - Ghostalker, on 06/27/2009, -1/+22I'd bet he's saying it when the microphone's are all off.
- MillionsLivio, on 06/27/2009, -2/+22You're missing the point of the protesting to begin with: the election was rigged.
- Ultra99, on 06/27/2009, -2/+21The Iranian public aren't stupid. They're not buying what's for sale at home and they're watching us - and therefore this is the best time NOT to be looking like a bunch of chest beating, jingoistic neocon freaks looking for a fight.
Obama's being pretty smart then - beign verbally firm but coolheaded, not overescalating, overpromising or making himself into a bogeyman with useless rhetoric. This also gives himself time to consider his opitons for a porper response dependingo n how the situation unfolds.
And anyays, no mattter what the Iranian Government is up to, miliary action is simply not an option. The US military doesn't have the resources to put substantial ground assets in Iran which leaves only an aerial bombardment - which would send a pretty strong message but which open a huge can of worms, make things really frikkin coompliated and ultimately not really please anyone apart from a few warhawk golf buddies. - jackpot231, on 06/27/2009, -2/+21Obama is in DX?...am i missing something?
- DeskFlyer, on 06/27/2009, -0/+19Just a copy paste from the headline that appeared on Fark yesterday:
http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4473936 - inactive, on 06/27/2009, -1/+20Ideally, there's nothing wrong with toppling dictators for the betterment of the world.
But practically? Not a chance. We can't just go headlong into war with China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, , etc. - Dustin00, on 06/27/2009, -3/+21Proof of a valid election is not upon the citizens:
"Protesters claim irregularities and have demanded a recount in the election is which Mr. Ahmadinejad won in a landslide victory over Mir Hossein Mousavi."
It should fall on the shoulders of the government to provide ample evidence of a fair count of all the votes:
The Iranian government has failed to explain why they announced results before all the poles closed, why there were more votes tallied than possible voters, how it normally took 3 days to count votes yet they counted this record turnout of paper ballots in a matter of hours, and why Ahmadinejad had a perfect 3 to 2 lead over Mousavi through the entire voting process and across every region of the country. (and I know I'm forgetting a couple of other irregularities -- there's too many to track at this point) - skelooth, on 06/27/2009, -18/+34No matter what he does or say he'll be tarred and feathered by the right for it. If Bush or Reagan said it they'd be praising him for being tough on foreign relations, but since he's a Democrat they will dismiss it as the equivalent of a "strongly worded letter."
- PowderedToasty, on 06/27/2009, -1/+15Freudian slip with the "i has"?
- peacenik, on 06/27/2009, -0/+14Exactly how has he f'd things up? More importantly, what advice would you and your make-believe "former presidents" give that would have produced better results?
- gauge5577, on 06/27/2009, -7/+21Obama is nothing like a modern day JFK. I wish people would quit saying this.
- Danby123, on 06/28/2009, -0/+14Now it is my profile pic. Maybe all of us are the same person.
- inactive, on 06/27/2009, -3/+16Yeah, because the US government wouldn't do anything if it was unconstitutional. Where the ***** have you been for the last 100 years.
- rocknog, on 06/27/2009, -5/+17Seems like that pretty much sums up politics these days. Always looking for a way to twist things simply on the basis that the person is your opponent. No one actually has any core principles anymore, it's all about constantly bashing the other guy, regardless of his stances, simply because he's the other guy.
My favorite recent example was the incident with the Somali pirates taking the captain hostage. When news first broke, conservatives immediately started slamming him for being too soft on the pirates. The moment the Navy Seals took the pirates out, they almost immediately did a 180 and claimed that he was a cold-blooded murderer who had three teenage boys executed. - iDoraemon, on 06/27/2009, -0/+12Yeah, I had a good chuckle when I saw the title name over at Fark. Glad it migrated its way to Digg.
- inactive, on 06/27/2009, -5/+17I think trolls flaming each other in a chatroom with threats are more effective than these exchange of words
- Misinformant, on 06/27/2009, -16/+27Irans ramping up the violence against protesters with the media spotlight off of them because everyone's too busy mourning the loss of a pedophile.
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 06/27/2009, -7/+18Nice try. Bush would have already jumped to the saber rattling and would have reminded everyone of how evil Iran is. Thanks for playing though.
- dmanmax99, on 06/27/2009, -1/+12Gitmo is actually, technically, part of the United States.
- Th3R3dFly, on 06/27/2009, -0/+11whatever happened to working together to lead a republic democracy, anyway?
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 06/27/2009, -0/+11Likewise your comment is buried because you naively thinking he's ***** this whole thing up.
- frygar, on 06/27/2009, -4/+14That's today's republican party for you. If they're not in power, they're going to be complaining about anything and everything possible. Sucks to be them; they're not going to be in power anytime soon as they've already proven themselves incapable of any sort of leadership.
- Mothrog, on 06/27/2009, -6/+16I see, so taking Americans citizens and holding them without charge, like say, Jose Padilla, is OK, so long as it's done by the American government on an American base on foreign soil? And you think that isn't a violation of the Constitution? Stop voting, you ignorant *****, and renounce your citizenship. It's an embarrassment to have you as a citizen.
- brownsound00, on 06/27/2009, -1/+11I can not see him ruling the nation, even if the protests end and he remains the leader. There is no way people will support him in the public. I just can't see it
- brownsound00, on 06/27/2009, -2/+11You can't go into Iran. Obama himself said he is not going to meddle into the affairs of other country's because, well, it's their own business. There are obvious exceptions when certain people are being victimized by their government, but this is a revolution that must be figured out by the Iranians. We all know that if Americans or Brits get involved, any shortcoming will be blamed on the people who are helping out. The Iranian government will be able to successfully spin the violence on the Americans and Brits, and then rally their allies against the West. It'll be mayhem. It's better to just leave it the way it is... unless it gets worse. In that case, send in the UN troops (even if they are funded by the Americans, keep it the UN)
- diggduggjoe, on 06/27/2009, -4/+13It would be best to insure we have a free society in America first. When we torture for example, we legitimize it for despots.
There is no better sales pitch for liberty than a strong and successful republic.
Apparently, we have some work to do here at home. - Gemfinder, on 06/28/2009, -1/+10Speak stickly and carry a big soft?
- inactive, on 06/27/2009, -9/+18Obama's just mad that someone in the public eye called him out for being the same as Bush, which is true.
- jmferris, on 06/27/2009, -2/+10Too big for his *britches*, too?
(Insert preempt for obligatory "britches and hoes" comment here.) - siszam, on 06/28/2009, -1/+9It's true. Anyone who reads the news or Digg should know that. It's a pity that truth isn't considered truth unless is matches popular opinion.
- rocknog, on 06/27/2009, -4/+12I'm actually a little perplexed here. During the election, McCain was touted as strong on foreign policy and weak on economics, whereas Obama was supposed to be strong on economics but weak on foreign policy. And after all, Obama received a big boost toward the end because of the economy tanking. However, in his actual presidency, thus far Obama has been terrible with economics but he's handled foreign policy incredibly well.
Of course, then again, in my personal opinion his foreign policy positions were far stronger than his economic positions, so it could be that this was pretty obvious from the start and the analysis of pundits is basically useless. Wait, what am I saying, of course pundits are useless. - peacenik, on 06/27/2009, -0/+8Unlike a lot of people (particularly on the right), Obama obviously recognizes that there are more choices that "tough guy" or "paper tiger". That kind of narrow thinking is what brought us to so much disaster (4,000+ American dead in Iraq, disdain by the international community, etc). He put N. Korea on warning with the UN resolution and is refusing to get sucked into the drama that Jung Il needs in order to force the US to negotiate. The last "tough guy" fell right into that trap and, as I recall, wound up giving them what they wanted.
- peacenik, on 06/27/2009, -2/+10And whining on a message board is even cheaper!
But seriously, talk is a lot cheaper than starting an pointless and expensive war. I'm curious to hear what you would have done instead. - BoutDemCanes91, on 06/27/2009, -2/+10Wait, let me find out what the word "innocuous" means in the dictionary and then I'll come back to digg you up when I understand your post.
- Ultra99, on 06/27/2009, -0/+8You're pretty optimistic about third world intercontonental ballistic missile technology there.
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