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- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -20/+83Fast forward to Obama in the Whitehouse, there is a press conference and he is answering questions honestly, as a leader should and with vision towards a future that we can all be proud of. Would Hillary still be on the Senate floor talking about how she actually won the election?
- eliot2000, on 04/27/2008, -8/+591. Click "my profile"
2. Select the "settings tab.
3. Click "customize topics" on the right side of the page.
4. Uncheck "2008 US Elections"
5. Profit. - lhbaker, on 04/27/2008, -8/+42I don't get it. 81% of Americans feel that the country is headed in the wrong direction, but McCain can win the election. This is what George Bush calls 'fuzzy math.'
- Pherdnut, on 04/27/2008, -8/+39This is obvious enough that I don't really think it's the concern. The big problem is figuring out what Hillary's hopes are because she must be smart enough to realize she's doing more to bring Obama down than increase her own popularity. What we need to establish is what the hell it's going to take to get her to walk away from this thing before we turn the first easy win for the DFL in decades into a completely unnecessary nailbiter against someone who's perceived as a flip-flopping geriatric case that's been endorsed by one of the most unpopular presidents in American history.
Personally, I think she's hoping for a political miracle or a tragedy.
One thing I think Obama fans need to do is to funnel more of our excitement into the movement that Obama has inspired rather than deifying the man himself. We can't afford to have our spirit broken in the way progressive-minded Americans did after the Kennedy and MLK assassinations and it will take a lot more than one inspiring president to reverse the problems that we have. When Hillary is finally dealt with, I think we have to rebuild focus on the issues that matter.
As a Gen-Xer I have to give the younger Obama supporters a lot of cred for showing more political savvy than any generation in my living memory. You've developed a similar resistance to the fabrications and bent truths that we deal with from marketing and a broken news media without developing the same cynicism and apathy as a consequence. While a lot of you have fallen for the trap of overly indulging in conspiracy theory (lookin' at you RP "truthers") it seems like a large chunk of just about every generation has made itself useless by doing the same.
Just keep in mind that a lot of the excitement and inspiration surrounding Obama is as much because a lot of us older kids see what you guys are up to and are inspired by your example. Even a lot of boomers seem to be waking up to the idea that there are some very fundamental things wrong with the process that led to Bush for 8 years and that Hillary is attempting to play by those rules rather than help us all change them.
Anyway, don't get all entitled on us like the Boomers did in the 60s and we'll do our best to stand by you. - Pirate45, on 04/27/2008, -3/+19Obama is actually made out of candy.
- diggitydad, on 04/27/2008, -0/+14Not EVERY metric. In states where Obama is NOT on the ballot, Hillary wins by huge margins!
- m0laria, on 04/27/2008, -5/+19Only elitists DON'T use the metric system.
- ralphie81, on 04/27/2008, -1/+14Wow, a digg headline that reads "Don't Believe the Hype"...now I've seen everything
- PopcornDave, on 04/27/2008, -1/+13Nobody seems to understand that the media *wants* this to go to the convention. It's in the best interest of their bottom line to drag this ***** out as long as possible. That said, Hillary seems to be setting up her run for 2012 on the (fairly good) chance that she's not getting the nomination.
- buryhillary, on 04/27/2008, -23/+34Sooo......you just copy and paste this ***** under every Obama article? I believe so...I checked....Well your favorite candidates on your profile are McCane and Billary. Hillary is a Republican. Can't we have a Democrat?That just says it all. Anyways, Obama 08!
- Gabberwok, on 04/27/2008, -10/+21That's a little misleading. That website includes polling data from states that are within error. Clinton is only doing better than Obama if you include "Barely Dem" in addition to "Weak Dem" and "Strong Dem", and looking at the data most of those states give her less than a 3% advantage over McCain, so she's really tied. With a huge fundraising advantage over McCain, Obama could probably win over most of those "Barely Republican" states.
Here are the comparisons depending on how conservative you are with your state predictions... (Democrat - Republican - Toss up)
Include "Barely" states:
. Obama: 243-269-26 Clinton: 284-244-10 (Advantage Clinton by 41 EV, Obama loses to McCain, Clinton beats McCain)
Exclude "Barely" states:
. Obama 202-172-164 Clinton: 182-231-125 (Advantage Obama by 20 EV, Obama beats McCain, Clinton loses to McCain)
Exclude "Weak" states:
. Obama: 89-134-202 Clinton: 74-131-225 (Advantage Obama by 15 EV, both Democrats lose) - Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8Huh?
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8Does that mean only Imperialists use the imperial system?
- ADVIZR, on 04/27/2008, -1/+9Yeah, because there's nothing like building up your popularity for a 2012 bid by making half of the Democrats despise you.
- Tenlow, on 04/27/2008, -11/+18How is it artificial to digg an article about the candidate you support?
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -3/+10How can you be so incredibly stupid? Let me count the ways:
1. You believe that it's possible to predict, state by state, a general election that's half a year off based on polls.
2. You believe that picking results from multiple polls conducted in different manners with different questions and sampling methods is a valid statistical method.
3. You believe that the results of the election in 2004, when Kerry ran against Bush, are somehow a predictor of how Hillary or Obama would do against McCain in 2008. Different candidates, different issues, lower approval rating for Bush and the war in Iraq, recession... But that doesn't count, does it?
4. You actually believe that Obama and Clinton supporters aren't lying to the pollsters when they claim that they would vote for McCain over their candidate's Democratic rival.
5. You don't believe that the results will change significantly when a Democratic candidate is chosen and they concentrate their efforts against McCain rather than against their Democratic primary rival.
6. You believe that a site which, during 2004 showed Kerry to be the likely winner, is a trustworthy source for predicting election results.
What's it like down there on the far left side of the bell curve? - LeeSoong, on 04/27/2008, -1/+7obama - getting the ron paul treatment from the system.
- Stevo23, on 04/27/2008, -2/+8Definitely read it already.
- ZenMasterMojo, on 04/27/2008, -5/+11Dream on. Obama has won more votes total than Clinton, more states, and more delegates. Hillary is just embarassing herself at this point by continuing to stay in the race. Face it, Hillary. It's over! Deal with it.
Hillary has become like a Democratic version of Mitt Romney. Willing to say or do anything to tear her opponent down in order to win. - tumatakuru, on 04/27/2008, -3/+8Only elitists argue about stuff like this
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/27/2008, -3/+8You're as bad as the MSM. I note you didn't say that 100M Americans make capital gains tax deductions, rather you used the term affects. Would you like to explain this figure? I can help if you like - you are making the ASSUMPTION that increasing capital gains tax rates(to levels still well below the marginal tax rate for the VAST majority of those claiming) would encourage those wealthy individuals & corporations that mostly pay this tax to increase rental rates to make it up, thus counting low income rent paying families as being 'affected' by an increase in capital gains taxes - WHAT A CROCK! The problem with this theory is(& here is where the 'market forces' people kill their own argument) that rents are a market & prices are therefore set by supply & demand - not direct costs to the owner of the property. In fact, some economists argue that increasing CGT would reduce rents as housing sales prices drop(which I guess isn't really an issue right now anyway) to rates not influenced by the tax deductability of low rent differentials encouraging more people to buy a home & reducing demand on the rental market
- stretch611, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Only an idiot can't understand Metric. If you have a hard time with Metric, chances are you do not do well with our current imperial system either.
- opticwind, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6Yes, anyone with the name "buryhillary" is clearly an objective source on who is bias.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6sez you.
Or perhaps you prefer "So's yo mama?" - pintomp3, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4the american public has a very short memory. whoever is elected this year will be blamed for the war and the recession. she is setting up to swoop in in 2012.
- septicmadman, on 04/27/2008, -3/+7Obama has thrown mud.
- Magicmasta, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4So the whole word except the US and Nigeria is elitist?
- ramenite, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5I don't know exactly why this was dugg down. Yeah, it doesn't look good for Obama on that site. But it's hardly some propaganda. It's running numbers and seeing how they work out. Numbers don't like, and trying to bury them because they don't favor Obama is no different than Gore or Hillary trying to make up numbers to say why they should be president.
- wafla, on 04/27/2008, -2/+6Disingenuous and deluded post.
[1a] The "working man" isn't affected by removing the cap on social security taxes so that people earning $90k+ per year pay their fair share -- except that the social insurance programs will now be funded properly. [1b] The democratic candidates are not talking about repealing the lower- and middle-class tax cuts. [2] The Republican rubber-stamp congress took out gov't oversight of the banking and loan industry and this is what we get; the Republicans threw their beliefs out the window when they gave Social Security to Bear Sterns. [3] Better global poverty than almost any other thing, right? I mean, it's going to be spent anyway. [4] If that's true, then take it on the chin like a man.
McCain will not win. The Republicans have trapped us in eternal war, the secret prisons, the torture, New Orleans wiped off the map and FEMA yanking itself, Oil going from $20-$120 per barrel during Bush's term, record profits for oil companies, huge tax breaks for oil companies, huge tax breaks for offshoring labor, are we going to get justice for Enron? $44 trillion in unfunded promises with the Republicans just shrugging and looking confused. China paying for Iraq and now we can't even WHISPER criticism when they gun their own people down. Every third Republican caught for homosexual of pederastic acts.
It's really a sick, diseased political party and Obama (or Clinton) will win the election in the first 10 minutes after they stop attacking a Democrat and do the laundry list of the last 8 years. - Spoomeister, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4"One thing I think Obama fans need to do is to funnel more of our excitement into the movement that Obama has inspired rather than deifying the man himself. "
I can't digg this enough. - ralphie81, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5fail
- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -5/+9Bush isn't running in this election. Just because Bush and McCain are both in the same party that doesn't make them the same. If that were the case, then you would have to say the Hillary=Obama since they are both democrats.
- csupra, on 04/27/2008, -5/+9Yeah don't care about the elections, so another ***** like bush can win. Bush love people like you.
- sephiroth965, on 04/27/2008, -3/+7Everyone knew that Obama would lose PA. We were just excited because he started gaining ground in polls a week or two before the primary.
- allthosemoments, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3I agree. Isn't it ironic that Obama said most white people are racist like his grandmother, but if someone suggests that being black may mean he is unelectable then it is racist? Someone else making the same observation as Obama is racist apparently.
- eibborjames, on 04/27/2008, -2/+5Don't waist your breath on people who believe the earth is flat.
- TheBanch, on 04/27/2008, -2/+5If loving the Obama hype is wrong, I don't want to be right. He's an idealist... the world could use one right about now.
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -2/+51. So just how do you propose to balance the budget while conducting wars in the Middle East without repealing tax cuts that Bush put in place? And what's so horrible about economically responsible government?
2. Yes, bail out the homeowners. They relied on an honest assessment from the mortgage lenders as to their financial ability to repay the loan. You don't take away all of a person's hard-earned money with a foreclosure when the bank is the one that misled them about the likely rise in the loan, their ability to pay the loan, and, in many cases, when the loan officer exaggerated the buyers' incomes on the loan application documents.
3. I am all for eliminating global poverty. It's what fuels unrest, hatred, wars, and terrorism. It's a lot cheaper to feed people than it is to invade and occupy their country. Can you cite a source which shows that he is exempting the wealthy from this supposed tax?
4. If you don't want local taxes to go up, then don't elect a Republican to be President. It's that simple. Bush has drastically cut back federal payments to states, leaving the states to find the money somewhere else -- taxpayers. As to raising gas taxes, tolls, and the NYC congestion tax, I am completely for it. We need to do everything we can to reduce dependence on foreign oil and that means forcing people to buy more fuel-efficient cars and to take mass transportation wherever feasible. Don't like paying $60 to fill your tank? Then buy a Smart Car, Prius, Civic Hybrid, or motorcycle. You seem to have the mistaken belief that you have a right to buy all of the gasoline that you can afford. You don't. Wasting the petroleum reserves is stealing from future generations and you have no more right to the oil than they do.
Why would anyone elect McCain to solve our economic problems when he's admitted that he's got no expertise on the economy and when Republican policies have gotten us into this mess?
The main reason why your kind is against abortion is because it's one less kid you can send over to Iraq to be maimed or killed. If you're so "pro-life", why are you all ready, at the drop of a hat, to kill tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens and thousands of American troops?
Yes, I'm against parental notification for abortions. We don't need kids bleeding to death or dying of infections from botched back-alley abortions with coat hangers. And we don't need right-wing religious zealot parents forcing a child to carry an unwanted fetus to term.
Yes, I am for stem cell research. What kind of sick ***** would advocate throwing away stem cells from fertility clinics rather than using them to help find cures for horrible diseases? You like seeing Stephen Hawking confined to a wheelchair? You enjoy seeing old people dying from Alzheimer's disease, unable to even recognize their loved ones? You don't mind sending some kid off to Iraq and having him come home paralyzed, but you don't want any stem cells used to help find a way for kids like him to walk again? What the ***** is wrong with you? - SteveIsTheDude, on 04/27/2008, -3/+6Voters are going to have to learn more about Obama.
- pseudononymist, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Obama is known, if anything, for his negotiating/bargaining skills that end up making everyone feel like they've been listened to. He did that at Harvard, he did that in Chicago, and I've yet to see any reason why he couldn't do that with the rest of the world.
- barfooz, on 04/27/2008, -6/+9If you want a real analysis of how the Electoral College would break down as of today, http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ runs the numbers from the polls in all the states. And it's not good right now for either Democratic candidate, mostly because McCain is polling strong in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.
- peevatoe, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4i'm so sick of obama stories on digg. so so so sick
- Rustymetal, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4I think she knows by 2012 presidential seat will be Irreverent, she will be running for North American Alliance Leader.
- Mothrog, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3I propose Digg hosts an event for all Diggers. Obama will be invited, and a line of all his Digg supporters formed, and they can suck him off one after another instead of continually submitting Obamabot spam.
- cheezintern, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4She won CA and NY which will vote democratic regardless, so those victories don't really mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of things.
- stretch611, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3From what I have seen, the more they learn about Obama, the better he becomes.
- novenator, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3dont knock it till you try it. Once I learned it, I realized how easy and dynamic it is. Imperial is clumbsy and nothing fits together. nobodys trying to force you not to be an idiot, thats your right. stay ignorant if you really want
- dagamer34, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4Because the last 6 weeks of bickering has made even the most hardcore of fans sick to their stomach. We're hearing the same arguments over and over again, and the real problem is that none of it has to do with us.
However, because when you get down to McCain vs. X democratic nominee, the differences in policy issues are so abundant that there is always something new and MEANINGFUL to learn about each candidates positions.
And then we'll have about 2-3 weeks of negative attack ads and then the election. But before those 2-3 weeks appear, politics will be somewhat interesting for the American public. However, I for one, cannot wait until May 6th when all the "big" states have voted and even if it wasn't clear who has won before, the MSM will pretty much tell Clinton to get the ***** out. :) - stretch611, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3I still say no way to a combined ticket. While everyone points out that they are roughly equal on issues, what most forget is they are polar opposites when it comes to style and integrity. All Obama has to do is pick a strong running mate, (IMO, Edwards or even Chris Dodd) and Hillary can not be forced on him.
A forced running mate is not a good idea. If you look at the current administration, they get along well because Cheney pulls the strings in the background and Bush acts dumb. If Hillary and Obama are forced together, Hillary will try to take full control. -
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