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- sorendayton, on 08/12/2008, -25/+41Obama is such a hypocrite. He has done so much of this stuff.
His political mentor, the State Senate Majority leader has said "it's not pork. It's steak." - RickHavoc, on 08/13/2008, -11/+24"Sen. John McCain secured millions in federal funds for a land acquisition program that provided a windfall for an Arizona developer whose executives were major campaign donors, public records show. McCain, who has made fighting special-interest projects a centerpiece of his presidential campaign, inserted $14.3 million in a 2003 defense bill to buy land around Luke Air Force Base in a provision sought by SunCor Development, the largest of about 50 landowners near the base. SunCor representatives, upset with a state law that restricted development around Luke, met with McCain's staff to lobby for funding, according to John Ogden, SunCor's president at the time."
http://tinyurl.com/68pga7
That's right. McCain secured $14.3 million for his donors which is about 50 times more than what you McCain supporters are complaining about. - sungoddess808, on 08/12/2008, -20/+33Is anyone really surprised by this?
- slappy83, on 08/12/2008, -23/+35Lets see if this ever makes the front page. Come on Obama bury brigade! The polarization in digg has gotten out of hand. Don't get me wrong, I don't like McCain either, but christ.
- cb8471a, on 08/12/2008, -25/+34Sadly, this article confirms that Obama's "change we can believe in" is nothing more than "change we can earmark".
- Tex, on 08/13/2008, -14/+22How dare he send money to planetariums and science instead of big oil!
- wild, on 08/13/2008, -5/+13Inaccurate. He earmarked the funds in 2006. They gave to his campaign in 2008. Thats not what the submission and article imply.
Gee, imagine that. A politician works for you and pulls for you now, and later on in their career you support them with funding. There isn't anything wrong or unethical there.
You guys find an article on Obama thats actually a fair criticism, and I'll be more than happy to digg it up. I believe in an educated populace. I also believe we have to understand those flaws so we can weigh them versus their strengths.
But again, this article is inaccurate because it implies they contributed, and _then_ he did them favors. - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -5/+13" In 2006, Sen. Obama requested an earmark $300,000 to replace and update the projector system at the Adler Planetarium. In 2008, he requested $3,000,000 for replacement of the projector system and other equipment in the Sky Theater."
No wonder he recently changed his position on NASA; Obama is in the pocket of BigPlanetarium! He wasn't happy to see me, that was just a telescope in his pocket... - jotate, on 08/13/2008, -4/+9theyac3 got almost word for word what I was thinking as I read that article. Obama's playing to the planetarium lobbyists? It's disappointing that Obama's not a shining example of perfection, but it's something I think most of his supporters have come to terms with. The delusion is all the anti-Obama folks that seem to think $3mil in planetarium equipment is the same as billions in oil company tax breaks.
Obama is a politician. Politics is a corrupt game. You can hate the game, but if you're going to win, you still have to play. Obama has done a damn fine job keeping himself as respectable as possible.
The difference is that now his presidency is being funded by the people. He'll have less if any obligations to big money donors or fundraisers. McCain is ridiculously far into the opposite end of the spectrum in that respect. - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -2/+6So that makes what Obama did ok, then?
Good to know.
(not a McCain supporter) - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -3/+7How dare you be so ***** greedy? are you paying your share?
The overwhelming majority of federal income taxes are paid by the very highest income earners. The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. The top 10% of high income earners, pay 63.5%. The top 20% of income earners pays 78% of all federal income taxes. - DocOctavius, on 08/13/2008, -2/+6quoted from linked comments:
"This critique is a little bit of a stretch. I would understand that if Senator Obama were doing this for a private business there could be a little bit of an uproar. Unfortunately, this article is doing little more than pointing out something that improves a fine Chicago landmark.
Senators appropriate funds for a variety of causes. Adler Planetarium is adjacent to the museum campus in Chicago and is part of the draw for tourism for the city. It needs public funding because, as a publically funded, non-profit governmental institution, it is unable to serve its purpose without government funding. This is not a giveaway to some big private oil company, it is keeping a fine aspect of the city working. It is no less valuable to the city than the roads that lead there.
It is likely that if you look harder you will find that many people from many boards have given significant amounts of money to Senator Obama's campaigns, yet they did not receive any special treatment. If something needs to be done for a public institution in Illinois or Chicago, I expect nothing more than help from my govermental representatives and it appears that that is exactly what Senator Obama has done." - inactive, on 08/14/2008, -0/+3did you forget the apple brigade?
- wild, on 08/13/2008, -2/+5Well, earmarks are a REAL issue. And if you care about earmarks, you'll care about the transparency laws Obama is trying to get established in the lawmaking process.
http://obama.senate.gov/issues/ethics_and_lobbying ... - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -2/+5D: None of the above.
Have at it. - ProfessorSYM, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2When the choice is between McCain and Obama, the argument that "they are both the same" doesn't automatically give the advantage to McCain.
McCain has backed away from just as many if not more positions than Obama has, so if that is the yardstick at least be honest about it and consider McCain's political maneuvering as well. - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -1/+3Go figure, Digg allows me to comment on things I read. Odd, isn't it?
I mean why would I want to read about this. Keeping up on current events and expressing your opinion is for queers, right? - inactive, on 08/14/2008, -0/+2He also left out the Linux crew and the anti-Israel lobby.
- zentehflash, on 08/13/2008, -5/+6Yea, I hear its common place to give money to important public institutions up there in Washington.
Also "Politics as usual" is so over used as a phrase, you may as well say "But will it blend?" It would have about the same effect. - wunksta, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1nader ftw!
or write in paris hilton or a fictional character, cant go wrong either way. anythings better than mccainobama - cptmichael101st, on 08/13/2008, -6/+7What's sad is that we're focusing on articles like this and not the important issues like health care, the energy crisis, and this little war going on somewhere in the middle east. Let's face it- earmarks are gonna happen no matter who gets elected. How about we vote for the candidate who has a plan to fix the REAL issues.
- FairDinkumMate, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1@diggFunction - Why is it you quote the % of income tax the top 5% of earners pay not as a % of THEIR income but as a % of total tax payed?
Might it be because if you showed it as a % of THEIR income it would be significantly lower than a lot of the middle class?(as has been proven numerous times - google Warren Buffet for the best evidence)
It's like the population of Dubai a few years back had one of the top 10 average incomes in the world. Sounds great right? Except over 90% of the population lived below the poverty line because all of that income was concentrated in the hands of a few oil Sheiks! Ah, statistics are wonderful things aren't they?
Try again with some percentages that actually show it how it is... - notSLICK, on 08/14/2008, -1/+2While i do agree that it is nepotism, is it orders of magnitude less serious than creating a war to create contracts for your buddies.
Three million to a planetarium is much 'nicer' corruption than $80 Billion and more to contractors in oil rich foreign nations who provide shoddy service which kills our troops by electrocuting them in the shower or giving them a myriad of diseases through nasty drinking water. This article is weak, i will digg it so people can see just how weak it is. - tucsonsun13, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1I'm not voting for anyone. Perhaps a Ron Paul write-in.
This system is a joke. - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -2/+3Apparently, you don't grasp the concept of not bothering to cast a vote for president. It's too tough to choose between ***** and crap.
- byler139, on 08/13/2008, -1/+2Actually, the whole point of the article is that there were contributions, then a small earmark, then much larger contributions, and then a very large earmark in 2008. If you read the citations (much of which come from his own website), you'll see that he did in fact make those earmarks after the contributions.
- barfooz, on 08/13/2008, -11/+12Politics as usual.
- cnot3, on 08/14/2008, -1/+2I'm not a McCain supporter. Neither McCain nor Obama was justified in their actions, but since Obama is trying to make an image for himself as not being more of the same aka not just another scumbag politician, EVEN THOUGH HE MOST ASSUREDLY IS, this should receive more attention than it is getting.
- cnot3, on 08/14/2008, -1/+2Ah, HuffPoo, the epitome of credibility. You could at least link to wherever they stole that article from.
- cnot3, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1Barr is probably the best name on any ticket, but Ron Paul still is much more of a libertarian in my eyes.
- cnot3, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1You love the Plane_arium. To not love the Plane_arium brings you great pain! Horrible, icky pain!
- theyac3, on 08/13/2008, -7/+7That's it, McCainiacs digg me down, do your duty for your puppetmaster
- IVillageIdiot, on 08/13/2008, -2/+2I think the point is not so much based on tit-for-tat, as it is that Obama claims to be something "different, new, and based in hope", and… obviously that is not the case.
When he said he would NOT take funding other than public financing so as to insulate himself from special interest manipulation, he threw that out the window and took the money instead!
When he said Environmental support was important people believed him. Now, he says we may have to drill when the polls say there is 70-80 support for that.
When he says he will pull the troops out and bring them home upon election, it lasted for awhile and NOW… he says they may need to stay in place for X number of months.
In short, HE IS EXACTLY the same and the other politicians, no difference... accept, more people trust him in an effort to "prove" they themselves aren't racist.
The issue isn't so much McCain's faults or similarities, as it is... what will Obama back away from next, and will it be important enough to recalculate our estimations?
Obviously, that won’t happen on Digg. However for a great many folks come election day, it just may manifest itself at the polls.
- sandersdamnit, on 08/13/2008, -5/+4Planetariums that help kids learn about space and science? This is ***** *****. If you wanna learn about space just read the Bible, everything you ever wanted to know about everything is there. I heard Tom Cruise and those Scientolology blasphemers gave him money, and now cocktail is gonna be Vice President. Wake up Internets, vote Jesus ***** Christ ' 08!!!
- inactive, on 08/13/2008, -4/+3If you feel that planetarium projectors for big campaign contributors are more important than AIDS research, vote Obama.
That's kind of catchy. Feel free to use that slogan, Barack. - sorendayton, on 08/13/2008, -2/+1Your right. The fact that Obama is a hypocrite and surrounded by crooks isn't an issue.
It's only what he says that's important. Not what he does. - ProfessorSYM, on 08/13/2008, -6/+5I don't get how Republicans try to use this kind of thing against Obama when most of their own do the same thing. If anything, it is an invitation to point out the same behavior (and worse) among Republicans.
Now, I hear a lot from the Republicans and the McCain camp about how bad Obama is, but what I don't hear is what John McCain will do for our country if elected.
Anyone? - theyac3, on 08/14/2008, -4/+3In other news http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/13/report-mc ...
- cnot3, on 08/14/2008, -2/+1The ***** Planetarium doesn't need federal tax dollars, Illinois has some of the highest taxes in the country, and coming from someone who lives there, we should be paying for it on our own.
- FamousAnus, on 08/13/2008, -3/+2For what seems like the millionth time: Not liking Obama does not make a person a "McCaniac", or even a McCain supporter. There is a certain part of the Obama fanclub on digg that seems to be completely incapable of comprehending that.
I'm not a huge fan of either of them...but I am going to have to choose the lesser evil in a few months. - jstohler, on 08/13/2008, -9/+7Yes, I'm quite surprised that the right doesn't have any real issues and has to make this stuff up.
- actorboy, on 08/13/2008, -8/+6How dare successful people cough up their fare share to support the country that made them rich. Pretty soon their advocates will propose rebuilding foreign countries instead of our own.
- GhostWithToast, on 08/13/2008, -7/+5HE'S STILL WAY BETTER THAN MCCAIN.
- RickHavoc, on 08/13/2008, -3/+1Name your candidate and I'll smear him/her faster than you can say Britney.
- cnot3, on 08/14/2008, -4/+1Change we can believe in: NONE! If you want change vote libertarian or write in Ron Paul, even though neither will see a victory, it's better than voting for the douche or the turd sandwich.
- ProfessorSYM, on 08/13/2008, -5/+2Yeah yeah, we get it, you hate all the Obama coverage on Digg. You do realize you are now officially part of the "I hate all the Obama coverage on Digg" brigade?
What I hate about Digg is that all of these stupid little groups form and then people use the comment system to declare their loyalties to said groups. I guess it is easier to type a commonly repeated phrase, slogan or idea than forming a real opinion about something.
Some recent Brigades:
The "Russia was right to attack Georgia" brigade
The "I hate all the Obama coverage" brigade
The "I used to support Ron Paul then I supported Obama now I support Ron Paul again and here's why" brigade
The "Democrats are all socialists and Marxists" brigade
That said, I'm part of the "I hate all the people who form meaningless groups on Digg" brigade. - zentehflash, on 08/13/2008, -11/+8Lets see if the right can nail down a valid concern about Obama. A politician giving money to an important public institution isn't really Digg worthy, IMHO.
- RickHavoc, on 08/13/2008, -4/+1I've never heard of Mr. NoneOfTheAbove. Is he from the land of TooWussyToSayWhoISupport?
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