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Obama admits he lacks experience required 4 national ticket
taylormarsh.com — I imagine this video will get a Republican work out if Senator Obama is the lead on this fall's presidential ticket. Watch it before you snipe or judge.
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- LoneRanger85, on 02/26/2008, -4/+8OK, I watched it. Now, I'll snipe and judge. B.O. lied to his constituents the same way Hillary lied to hers and Bill lied to his. Nope, they had NO interest in being president, they just wanted to serve their state. Since that seems to be standard behavior, I guess there's nothing to criticize. But, shame on Democrats for tolerating the same line time, after time, after time. Were it a Republican who lied to them, their heads would be exploding. Hypocrisy. As far as experience, who IS experienced enough to become president? The only thing that makes B.O. stand out is he hasn't been in politics long enough to build up the record of failure and incompetence that Hillary has. But he will.
- ghost2ghost2, on 02/26/2008, -2/+2Hillary never did. So don't make up nonsense. In 2000, she promised she wouldn't run in 2004. She didn't. In 2006, press kept asking her and Bill, and she said (each time), that people should take that into consideration when they want to vote for her. The most honest line from any politician. In fact, in 2000, I told people she won't run in 2004 and I was right. In 2006, I watched Bill giving the answer above, and I knew right away that she is going to run.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2The only President we've had in my lifetime (at least) with an impressive set of experience credentials going into the office was Shrub I and other than Desert Storm, he didn't do much of value. The obamination is simply far off the on the light weight side of the scale.
- ghost2ghost2, on 02/26/2008, -2/+2Hillary never did. So don't make up nonsense. In 2000, she promised she wouldn't run in 2004. She didn't. In 2006, press kept asking her and Bill, and she said (each time), that people should take that into consideration when they want to vote for her. The most honest line from any politician. In fact, in 2000, I told people she won't run in 2004 and I was right. In 2006, I watched Bill giving the answer above, and I knew right away that she is going to run.
- bayareavoter, on 02/26/2008, -5/+3Can't Americans learn from experience? Didn't we just go thru hell by electing someone without the necessary experience? Obama is Bush with brains. If Obama becomes president who will be his Dick Cheney?
- LoneRanger85, on 02/26/2008, -3/+7Brains? By all means, lets see a long list of his accomplishments.
- Coven, on 02/26/2008, -5/+1He holds positions in the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs, and he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. One of his FIRST actions as a US Senator was to increase Federal Pell grants, fulfilling one of his campaign promises. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. He co-sponsored the "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act" introduced by McCain. Lugar-Obama dealt with weapons in the former soviet satellite states. What I personally find to be his biggest accomplishment was the introduction and passing of Coburn-Obama, which created USAspending.gov. That website brought a never before seen transparency to the US budget. You can't say he has no foreign policy experience because he's on the Foreign Relations committee and has traveled the world over because of it. That was all his FIRST year.
In the 110th Congress he co-sponsored a bill with Senator Feingold to deal with lobbyists giving gifts of travel on corporate jets to members of Congress and dealt with other sleazy dealings, most importantly FULL disclosure of earmarks in the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act". When it gets out of committee and onto the floor you will hear a lot about S.453, or "The Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007" which will deal with campaign reform. He attempted to put a stop to the war with the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007", which called for troop withdrawals by March of this year. He is one of the most vocal members of Congress in regards to the war. He also sponsored sanctions against Iran, and further protections against nuclear terrorism.
Since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. - ghost2ghost2, on 02/26/2008, -0/+7Is this the same sub-committee that he chaired, but never (in the one year that he chaired it) called a meeting. The same sub-committee who is in charge of NATO (how important is that?), but hasn't called a hearing into anything!!
You call something an experience not because your name is on it, but because you have done the work and learned something from it. He didn't.
But I want to sincerely thank you for your answer. 99% of his supporters on the web just talk inspiration or attack the questioner instead of answering. So thank you for giving a detailed answer that could be analyzed and discussed.- Coven, on 02/26/2008, -1/+1I assume you are referring to the Foreign Relations subcommittee on European Affairs (which I failed to list as one of his accomplishments). Can I see a link to something stating that they have not met while he has chaired the sub-committee? I want to confirm this before adding or continuing to omit this appointment from the list of accomplishments.
Is it possible that even if they haven't held a hearing on anything that it may have just been a quiet year in that jurisdiction, and that other, more pressing things have been happening elsewhere?
Thank you for not immediately dismissing everything in my post, as others have done. Keep in mind that there have been presidents with even less experience. Teddy Roosevelt and Abe Lincoln to name two of them, and they are both considered great presidents by most.- Iconoclast25, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1TR did more with his life before he was thirty than your boy will in his life time if he lives to 125.
OTOH, Lincoln has some validity as a comparison: he was a terrible president but gifted speaker. Possessed of even less experience, he caused a horrible Civil War which has yet to heal completely 143 years later - along with suspending Habeas Corpus for those who had the audacity to challenge his policies, etc. He was, I think, a man so consumed with his self-righteousness and good intentions he caused more evil in the long term than he relieved in the short term. He and his abolitionist zealots are much like today's dimocraps - forcing their policies on the rest of society in their utter conviction of their moral superiority. I will not be the least surprised to see some variation on the events of 1859 - 1862 over the next few years in terms of the divisiveness caused by the oh-so-self-righteous liberals and some sort of significant resistance, quite possibly armed, to that leftist agenda. If technological advances had not made foreign threats far more dangerous and immediate than they were even one hundred years ago, I am almost certain this would have happened before now. As yet, however, the dangers of the moslem crazies, the PRC, etc. outweigh those posed by the domestic enemies. I'm not so sure how much longer that relative balance will hold. Another 9-11 attack, forcing amnesty for illegals upon the nation . . . any of it could be the spark, as there is more figurative tinder out there in "flyover country" than literally exists on the California hillsides.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1TR did more with his life before he was thirty than your boy will in his life time if he lives to 125.
- Coven, on 02/26/2008, -1/+1I assume you are referring to the Foreign Relations subcommittee on European Affairs (which I failed to list as one of his accomplishments). Can I see a link to something stating that they have not met while he has chaired the sub-committee? I want to confirm this before adding or continuing to omit this appointment from the list of accomplishments.
- Coven, on 02/26/2008, -5/+1He holds positions in the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs, and he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. One of his FIRST actions as a US Senator was to increase Federal Pell grants, fulfilling one of his campaign promises. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. He co-sponsored the "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act" introduced by McCain. Lugar-Obama dealt with weapons in the former soviet satellite states. What I personally find to be his biggest accomplishment was the introduction and passing of Coburn-Obama, which created USAspending.gov. That website brought a never before seen transparency to the US budget. You can't say he has no foreign policy experience because he's on the Foreign Relations committee and has traveled the world over because of it. That was all his FIRST year.
- CognitiveDis, on 02/26/2008, -4/+6We're in 2 wars, a recession, the government is totally screwed up, and this guy thinks he's up to the job? He hasn't even managed to get anything done in the job he was already elected to do. How can anyone with half a brain think this guy should be president?
- ichchappycat, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1See the first reply to the post above yours... He has a long list of accomplishments during his term as Senator. Are you part of the media? Because you sound like it...
- @nival, on 02/26/2008, -1/+3I think the title should be changed from admits to admitted, as in 4 years ago, deceiving title if you ask me. I think 4 years do make a difference in pretty much anything (running a company, practicing a sport, etc..) so I think it is pretty irrelevant, so if it was true four years ago it doesn't mean it is true now.
There are people who learn from their mistakes and there are smarter people who learn from other people's mistakes.
There has been a digg article floating on digg for a few days now that shows his senate record and experience if you want to find out more about it look for the article (there are actually two of them floating around).......... don't bother, here they are.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Daily_Kos_Diary_ ...
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/I_found_the_BEEF ...
If you don't like the guy or want to vote for him that's fine, just put a little mores substance into it, that makes it more interesting.- Coven, on 02/26/2008, -3/+2Dead links, but I do remember those articles. Both were well written and really tore apart the claims that he has no accomplishments.
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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332 ...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/21/164117 ...
Those are the stories linked in the above mentioned Diggs.- Iconoclast25, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Daily kos = less validity than Pravda circa 1973.
- Coven, on 02/26/2008, -3/+2Dead links, but I do remember those articles. Both were well written and really tore apart the claims that he has no accomplishments.
- 10K422, on 02/26/2008, -1/+3He said he wouldn't know what he was doing if he became President -- at that time he was being honest. The video confirms that he would be a puppet -- but for who? I know it is difficult for Obama believers to accept the truth that they are getting played. You're right -- four years do make a difference. Obama still had at least a little honesty left in him in 2004. Since then, Obama has been corrupted by the lust for power. Obama will continue to descend into even greater corruption and compromise. If he becomes President, you will see many more videos proving his lies and hypocrisy. I wonder what will happen to his followers then -- they will make more excuses for his hypocrisy, rather than admit the truth to themselves.
And Hillary didn't lie to New Yorkers. She said she wouldn't run in her first term and she didn't. Everybody in New York knew she would eventually run for President and we wanted her to run. In the meantime, she served the state of New York very well. - gmarie624, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4Is there a single U.S. Senator or Congressman/woman who has served the public well and has NOT run for President, but would make a good President? Maybe it's time for the voters to think about drafting worthy candidates - if there are any...
- Iconoclast25, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Many in private industry unwilling to take the cut in pay and subject themselves to the constant attacks / second-guessing.
- these3remain, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Yes, Senator Jim DeMint of SC. A conservative who voted against the Treaty of the Seas, understands American sovereignty, etc.
- GeekLove08, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3He was appointed as chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Subcommittee on European Affairs in Jan. 2007. Since that appointment, he was too busy TALKING on the campaign trail on what he HOPES to happen in Europe (including Afghanistan) than actually doing anything about it. All talk, no action. Or, as Texans call it, "All Hat, No Cattle."
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