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- iching, on 11/21/2008, -7/+23Federal courts throws out the case as baseless:
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... - inactive, on 11/21/2008, -14/+281) Yes, let's have a ***** press conference with Obama and Bush and all of their people so we can thoroughly hash out this ***** ridiculous claim for once and for all so you paranoid idiots will move on to some other far-fetched conspiracy theory. Actually, that probably won't work because you imbeciles will still insist that Obama isn't a "natural born" citizen. As I said in another thread, he could have been born on the ***** moon and he still would be a "natural born" citizen because his mother WAS A US CITIZEN. Do you people truly not realize how stupid you look when you dredge up this claim?
2) And to the idiot who submitted this story...calling yourself a lawyer means nothing. You aren't a lawyer. You're an idiot who watches too much TV and has too much time on his/her hands.
3) Providing a link to a social networking site does not a valid reference make.
BBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD-uh. - Krisgi, on 11/21/2008, -21/+34Try as you all may to "denaturalize" him, the basis for all of this ***** is the simple, cynical fact that you losers just can´t deal with someone being POTUS who doesn´t think like you but, above all, doesn´t LOOK like you.
Terrorist, Socialist, Muslim, and now NOT a citizen? The first three didn´t influence 65 million voters and you lost.
This is all you have left. Pathetic. With all the deep ***** we´re in, you people have nothing better to do with your mental energies than THIS. Crybabies, losers, and desperados. Such is the Repugnican brand. Always trying to focus on stupid, trivial issues to deflect the greater problems that YOU CAUSED with your stupid President.
The will of the American People was for a Democrat to win. His name is Barack Obama. Get used to it. - cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -1/+13Facts? Do you have facts to show that was the Kenyan ambassador on the recording? What would he know about Obama's birth? He was there?
There is a COLB verified by independent experts and you guys have a unverified mp3 recording? I have one from Santa Claus you might want to listen to. I'm sure someone can pull up one from the Easter Bunny soon as well.
cashman, state your proof. You speak of facts etc but show none and run from any request for them. Snappy little quotes don't cut it. - stonecircle, on 06/11/2009, -5/+17And once again, this all raises the question why John McCain, Sarah Palin and the RNC refused to jump on this "story", which, if true, would have been an easy skate into the Oval Office.
Buried. - thepoliticalcat, on 11/21/2008, -9/+20How many times are you lunatics going to keep flogging this poor dead horse? The laws of this land state that any child born on U.S. soil (whether or not of a citizen parent) is automatically a citizen. And before you counter with the bogus claim that he was not born on U.S. soil, consider these facts: (1) A respected, non-partisan organization has examined his birth certificate and pronounced it valid; (2) Government officials of his home state have certified that he was indeed born in the state and the original birth certificate attesting to that fact is in their custody and they have examined it and pronounced it valid. No grounds exist for further discussion of this non-fact. Stop pinning your hopes on known crooks and nutters who have sold you a bill of goods.
- cmootoo, on 11/21/2008, -3/+13Yeah, lets see what happens in reality though I have a feeling you're going to be disappointed. The argument present is weak at best.
- mtnmusicman, on 11/22/2008, -8/+17Look at that, old cashman57 is still tryin to convince himself of somethin..... That's funny *****....Like we say, move the@#$% on. You are starting to look pitiful. This is over with people move on to somethin else, maybe war crimes committed by your favorites:) Oh yeah, buried once more!!!
- cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -4/+13He need to produce no such document to appease the court of public opinion. Bring a valid case and then maybe you'll have a point. The reality is that there are no facts or evidence to support these allegations so thats why the lawsuits keep getting dismissed. I doubt if Obama's advisers even update them on these anymore.
I can't believe that you trumpet the constitutional republic bit but do not think that this basic requirement wasn't checked before even though everything has been scrutinized for the last couple years. - heystoopid, on 11/21/2008, -14/+23Move along nothing new to see , just old debunked past information rehashed yet again , by a tool living in the land of denial .
- Farth, on 11/22/2008, -2/+11What's up with these right wingers? Get a grip guys, Obama's the President, your silly delusions notwithstanding.
- Krisgi, on 11/21/2008, -9/+18He already did produce a BC, but the incredulous want to see a YouTube video of his birth. Live. In a hut. Otherwise they won´t be happy. And these people feel that they´re entitled (by Ggggggod, of course) to be happy.
And then...let´s see... what´s left? Oh, next they will want Obama to bleed through his palms, otherwise they won´t accept him as legitimate.
In urban jargon it´s called being bad LOSERS. - Batfishy, on 11/22/2008, -7/+16This whole argument is so crazy. Please stop. Please?
It's heartbreaking, actually. - cmootoo, on 11/21/2008, -7/+16Evidence has been produced and verified already. The 'proof' of forgery on the web couldn't even stand up in court as the so called web 'experts' had no qualifications themselves.
- cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -5/+13http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/31/state- ...
Start thinking of another crackpot excuse. - jackieblu, on 11/22/2008, -2/+10You guys are so lame, is this all you got? In 58 days Obama is our new President!!!
- cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -4/+12Has he been ordered to show them by court order? No other president-elect ever had to and neither does this one.
Do you have such little faith in your country that you would think they wouldn't check this basic qualification or with Obama being arguably one of the most scrutinized candidates in modern history someone would have noticed and gotten solid proof yet? I know better than expect an answer from cashman. He runs from anything that proves his allegations are unfounded.
You are confusing the court of law with the court of public opinion. - Batfishy, on 11/22/2008, -1/+9Gnats.
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -7/+15Did you even read what I had to say, or did you just see my member name and jump to your own lame conclusion?
When a fly continuously buzzes around my head I eventually clobber it with a flyswatter because it's annoying the crap out of me.
You are one of the buzzing flies and my post was the flyswatter.
How's that tinfoil hat of yours doing, asswipe? Still receiving messages from the mother *****, er, I mean ship?
Incidentally...in what bizarro world universe DID you pass the bar exam? - mtnmusicman, on 11/22/2008, -2/+9Like I said, wanna get picky, McCain was born in Panama. I know your response already. But see how dumb we look?
- Krisgi, on 11/21/2008, -5/+12The Obama camp´s silence on this is all about not giving creedence to some farse by commenting on it. The deal deserves total silence because it is ludicrous. Case closed. Let´s move on to saving the nation.
- cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -3/+10And I supposed you know better? You can't even furnish proof of why your allegations have any base.
Wait and see, Jan 20th will silence more of you conspiracy theorists as well. - woodsjransom, on 11/22/2008, -2/+9From now on when these National Enquire flavored stories are submitted I am burying them. Starting with this one BURIED dumb azz summama b*****s
- mtnmusicman, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6This war thing is really funny you guy's. Have you served in the military? I have, and it wasn't the best experience in my life. Bush started this war because of his daddy, and it's come back to bite him in the ass, we all know it, no matter what political beliefs we have. You guy's are making yourselves sick over something that isn't gonna change. I'm so glad your in such a great position 57, you talk about this being Obama's wrecking the economy? You serious? You sound like Limbaugh or Hannity. Your probably a nice guy, we just are wired differently, and have different beliefs, so I'll back off and let you guy's talk about something you can't change. And Tangoland, Don't go giving me your BS about the Constitution not meaning anything to me, I won't get in a pissin match with you over this, I served my country, lost friends and relive horrible things, so DON'T tell me about not believing in the Constitution. Have a great day guy's......Semper-Fi.....Always Faithful
- mtnmusicman, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6The constitution was written a few years ago I believe, things back then were just a little different. I'm not sure that everything in the Constitution is relevant to today. Some things can use a little change, that's my opinion, but I will not pass judgment on you, just give an opinion, so in return, don't act like you know me or know all that I stand for, I will leave that to my wife........ Thanks...Oh yeah, did you guy's know that McCain was born in Panama.......
- ironhide, on 11/22/2008, -5/+10That won't bother Cash, the Constitution is merely an convenient excuse for him, much like his dream lover, Ron Paul.
- cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5You like to be spoon fed your daily dose of reality I see.
You asked for a link showing where the rep said he was born in Hawaii. Read the first line of the article. Why would the Hawaiian health department hold an original birth certificate that wasn't issued from the state or another country? Also if there was a birth certificate from Kenya, or where ever else you guys guess he was born, then why would that be subject to Hawaiian law that states only family members can request copies? If he had another birth certificate then Hawaii wouldn't keep it for him, it would prob be in some bank safe deposit box.
This isn't a matter to be cleared up. This is the flailing of the frantic who don't want Obama in office for whatever reason and are hiding behind whatever reasons they can think up. Even if they came out and said explicitly that he was born in Hawaii, is natural born, gave his hospital and doctor's name, and showed the birth certificate I have serious doubts that your intentions are impartial enough to accept that.
Its this easy. Provide a valid case then the birth certificate will be produced. The fact that you don't have a valid case, shown by no certificate, is telling enough. He doesn't have to produce anything to satisfy the ranting of crazies who can't even prove their case in a court of law.
"Occam's razor the principle (attributed to the English philosopher and Franciscan friar William of Occam, c.1285–1349) that in explaining a thing no more assumptions should be made than are necessary." - Dimensio, on 11/22/2008, -5/+10"I like the Donofrio argument because it in fact only uses what we already have as evidence and does not ask "0" for his birth certificate."
The fundamental problem with Mr. Donofrio's argument is that it has no basis in any law derived from the Constitution, Federal statute or court precedent. - cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5LOL, I think you're idealizing politicians a bit too much. Do you think the little list you provided there also voted against Bush all the time as well? I may disagree with some parts of Obama's voting record and policies but the ones that are most important to me align mostly with what he proposes.
While we're at it, how many other presidential candidates or president-elects have you seen proof of citizenship? If there was proof of him not being a citizen then produce it. You haven't seen clear proof that he is a citizen but I doubt you've seen clear proof of any other president as well. More has has been furnished to show his citizenship then has been shown against it. You are the one who has been fooled. You seek out whatever strawman defense that supports your own maligned beliefs. Just look at your company, cashman57 and his rants.
I wore the uniform and served my country. Do you or cashman have any idea what that is like? If he voted to fund the troops then great. If they were not funded then they would be on the ground without adequate equipment and supplies. Yes, many more would have died. More than are dying now.
I fully intend to hold Obama accountable in his presidency. I believe in most of his policies and want to see some of them come to fruition. If you want to hold him accountable for his senate voting record then go ahead, but he isn't a senator anymore. - cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4Man, seek some help. Seriously.
- werkerholic, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5Somehow these ppl found something that the FBI missed. My only response....................... eat a dick!
- joand315, on 11/22/2008, -2/+6According to worldnetdaily there is no reason to doubt Obama's citizenship.
They did their own investigation and found no proof whatsoever that Obama was not a citizen. Since his mother was a citizen, there's really no doubt anyway. Check it out.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.vie ...
A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
The Berg lawsuit contends there is enough truth in the various reports to conclude, "Unfortunately, Obama is not a 'natural born' citizen."
The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil.
"Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states. "Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."
The claim could not be verified by WND inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public.
Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama's mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and Barack's American citizenship.
However, there doesn't seem to be any evidence Ann Dunham expatriated. Also, consulting citizenship experts contend that if Obama indeed obtained Indonesian citizenship, it simply would not have been recognized by the U.S., but the presidential candidate would retain his American citizenship.
Even after her divorce and return to the U.S., the suit says, "Obama's mother failed to take the oath in order to regain her U.S. Citizenship. Therefore, Obama would not have been able to regain his U.S. Citizenship until he turned 18 years (and) after he took the oath of allegiance."
"Since the oath of allegiance would have been entered in the records of the appropriate embassy, legation, consulate, court or the Attorney General, if Plaintiff is incorrect, then Obama should be able to produce in Court a certified copy of the proceedings, including a copy of the oath administered," the suit states.
The lawsuit then claims an investigation has shown that in 1981, "Obama traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian passport. At the time of travels to Indonesia, Obama was 20 years old. He was well aware he maintained his Indonesia citizenship, and failed to regain his United States citizenship. … Even if Obama maintained his United States Citizenship, which he failed to do, he also carries citizenships in Kenya and Indonesia. Obama has divided loyalties with foreign countries. Thus, Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States."
A WND investigation could not find any proof Obama used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan.... - thepoliticalcat, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4cashdolt, what is wrong with you? Really, what exactly is wrong with you? I'm sure there's a name for your condition. Obnoxious Personality Disorder maybe?
If you actually read anything instead of listening to the voices in your head, you would note that Obama has already spoken to the heads of state of Russia, China, and most of Europe regarding meetings to work on global economic issues. His staffers and hand-picked appointees are assembling their teams, who are already showing up at the offices that they will occupy on January 21st, learning their tasks and familiarizing themselves with the nature of their future duties. He is receiving daily security briefings from the agencies tasked with those jobs. All over the world, future leaders appear to be thrilled that Bush's days are numbered and they will, in the future, be dealing with President Obama. Common people celebrated in the streets of Iraq and Greece, Australia and the UK, Ireland and India, when he won the elections. So your assertions are simply bogus about the world mistrusting him.
As for his showing you a copy of his birth certificate, do you really think he knows of your existence? You're not that important, buddy. He has shown his papers to those whose business it is to see it. His posting the item on his website and the appraisal of Snopes and Factcheck are enough for the sane citizens. Neither the electors nor his political rivals would be letting him set foot in the halls of power if he were not qualified to do so, rest assured. You can't imagine that conspiracy consisting of every single elector, poll worker, security clearance staff, CIA, FBI, Secret Service, congresscritter, etc. are letting him get away with something to which he is not entitled. Because if you're serious about this, then you definitely need help. Badly. - thenekkidtruth, on 11/22/2008, -1/+4I couldn't encourage the rabid, raving, lunatic, mooning phools on the right to pursue this line of thinking with the tenacity of a heroin addict, all the way until it's inevetibly proven utterly ridiculous . . . and then far, far beyond.
Please, dear god, add "certified and proven nutjobs" to these apt labels: "failures", "incompetents", "criminals", and "ethically bankrupt". - jstreveln, on 11/23/2008, -2/+5yes and you have pictures of big foot too. don't you?
buried as beyond consideration or contempt - profgiles, on 11/22/2008, -2/+5Obama was born in the United states. Deal with it.
Obama was elected President. Deal with it. - cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -5/+8I have not seen any evidence to prove otherwise and his camp produced more concrete evidence to back up the claim that he was. Look at the figures, they do not lie. Even without California (if I wanted to play along with your ridiculous claim) he still wins the electoral college handily.
The people who seek to disprove that have not brought any reasonable cause or evidence themselves. In fact what they have brought has been repeatedly proven to be false, fabrications or just unfounded and unverifiable. When pressed for proof to back up their allegations they fold. You are one of those people. - Krisgi, on 11/21/2008, -4/+7Thanks. I´ll plan a vacation there next time around. Extremely interesting... I didn´t know that the waters were warm in Kenya.
- ironhide, on 11/22/2008, -2/+5Um, *****..cockroaches hide when the light comes on - like you guys running from reality.
- CoolHandLuke70, on 11/21/2008, -11/+14You work in horse stalls? You sure know how to sling some *****.
- werkerholic, on 11/22/2008, -1/+3The funniest thing is that George Washington wasn't born in the U.S.............. just a stupid historical fact w/o basis in this digg
- profgiles, on 11/23/2008, -0/+2Thanks for that link! Wow, when WorldNetDaily won't join in with your anti-Obama conspiracy theory....
From WND:
"A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there." - Echota, on 01/05/2009, -2/+4I want to see everybody's birth certificate that is screaming that President Obama is not a a natural born citizen!!!
Put Up Or Shut Up!!!!! - lostlyrics, on 11/23/2008, -0/+2aryan brotherhoods call pinocchio nose paul
a constitutionalist - seems a matter of definition.
perhaps because he's a boob and tit is in constitution - Anomaly100, on 11/23/2008, -2/+4If Mr Obama took his birth certificate and shoved it down your throats, you'd still deny it. Just be truthful, if you can. You don't want him as president and now matter how desperate, juvenile and pathetic you look, you will still do and say anything to defame our President-elect.
No matter how many "Nobama" chants, false birth cert. claims, and no matter how many times you say his middle name, he will still be our President. Soooo THERE! - (I can be juvenile too!) - cmootoo, on 11/22/2008, -4/+5Please give us an example of a politician that you are in total agreement with. Also by not funding the troops do you think they would have just been withdrawn? More would have died. In any case, what does that have to do with him being natural born?
This crap about him not being a natural born citizen is over. No court will even get to the point where he will have to produce a birth certificate because there isn't any proof to suggest he isn't natural born. - Echota, on 01/05/2009, -0/+1You're a dumba$$ if there ever was one!
You have been showing your ignorance since I joined digg!
Let's see your birth certificate!
I bet you aren't even a U.S. citizen!!! - joand315, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1You're welcome. Please pass it on. :-)
- Krisgi, on 11/21/2008, -11/+11Thanks, Ron Paul. You´ve really opened my eyes.
- avengingturnip, on 11/22/2008, -3/+2@cmootoo,
If I apply for a new job I have to fill out an I-9 form. Why cannot we ask the same of our presidents? Because he has contempt for our laws and thinks they do not apply to him. That is the issue. You are happy being ruled by elites who make themselves to be above the law. -
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