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- reuscel, on 03/28/2008, -3/+63So, the people are picking their leaders now? My god, that sounds like democracy!
- bullcutter, on 03/28/2008, -8/+47"While past campaigns have relied largely on support from small circles of wealthy and well-connected patrons, Obama has received contributions from more than 1 million donors. "
This in itself is proof of Obama's ability to reinvigorate politics for average Americans... and thusly proof that his candidacy is by far more legit than some others... - zeiben, on 03/28/2008, -2/+28Whatever. Hillary is SO going to win. She is already winning in the following metrics:
- Most crying
- Most states that have had sushi rolls named after them
- Most states with the word "New" in them (take that, change-bama!)
- Most flamboyant lapels
- Most convincing attempt at appearing to give a ***** about the voters in Michigan and Florida
- Most endorsements from disgraced governors
- Most ***** going on at once in a fantasy 3am phone call
- most big funders willing to threaten congressional democrats with pulling funding
etc.
These numbers don't lie. I don't see how the party elders can deny her the nomination... - zephyr42, on 03/28/2008, -4/+301 annoying troll.
- saska, on 03/28/2008, -1/+20This is why Clinton has more money for the general than for the primary -- if you have relatively few rich donors, you have a limited resource pool.
- brandonchicago, on 03/28/2008, -2/+21supernova17, why you hurt my feelings? http://digg.com/politics/Obama_Rewriting_Rules_for ...
- kolinkoolface2, on 03/28/2008, -8/+21hey remember that one time Ron Paul wrote the outlines for raising money online? (Over 6 million in one day with virtually no press coverage) Oh wait all you guys forgot about him. My bad Digg.
- Acewrap, on 03/28/2008, -1/+14Why are you always such a dick?
- briankoenig03, on 03/28/2008, -0/+11See, this is what Hillary has been saying all along! Obama just refuses to follow the rules!
Oh, they're using "rewriting rules" in a metaphorical sense? Not in a real sense, like how her husband's campaign staff helped rewrite the same caucus rules that she now complains about as "undemocratic"? Not like how she, in a recorded interview, said the Michigan primaries "won't mean anything" but has now tried for months to rewrite the rules to seat the delegates? Not like how her campaign wanted to rewrite the rule of LAW in Florida to allow elections by mail?
The scary thing is that those were just rules she tried to rewrite in the past 3 months. Imagine 4 years in office. - Tenlow, on 03/28/2008, -3/+14How is supporting the candidate you would like to see go to the white house idiotic? It's called "putting your money where your mouth is" and if more people did that instead of just trolling around and berating everyone who doesn't think like they do, it would be a better place around here. Don't want to donate to any of the candidates? Donate to the red cross, humane society, habitat for humanity, greenpeace, ACLU, NRA, NAMBLA, or GNAA. Don't want to donate to anyone? Buy yourself a candy bar. But stop the damn personal attacks. They get nothing done and cheapen your argument as a whole.
- MoofTheStoof, on 03/28/2008, -3/+14I'm a widower and I only work part, part-time because one of my kids is autistic. We live on a tiny budget and I still donated a few bucks. And will again in a few months. Politics has long been a hobby of mine and the last 7 years have been heartbreaking, but the thought of Barack in the White House has me optimistic for the country for the first time in a long time.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -7/+16the media has been waiting to write articles on how the internet has revolutionized campaign finance but they just couldnt buzz about it when it was ron paul who was breaking all the records.
its ok now that it's obama - zephyear, on 03/28/2008, -8/+17obama doing it real big
- grungegbunny, on 03/28/2008, -2/+11canidates being supported by the population instead of corporations with interests is a great idea.
- whoamarcos, on 03/28/2008, -0/+8take that lobbyists!
- saska, on 03/28/2008, -7/+15You forgot to add:
RON PAUL!!!!! - MixMastaKooz, on 03/28/2008, -1/+8Obama never borrowed money against future public funding. So Obama is only limited by the amount of money he raises and not by a regulatory cap. However, you do have to record money raised, spent, and saved during each quarter. And yes, he's been very good at releasing his financial records.
So what's your argument? Or will you keep making invalid conclusions based on false, unstated premises? - TRScheel, on 03/28/2008, -4/+11Yep, no press coverage... except for:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/ron-paul- ...
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/1 ...
http://nyletterpress.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/ron- ...
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/17/ ...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/06/usnews/w ...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/18/paul.fundra ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,308404,00.html
So if you ignore all that above that I found in less than five minutes month after it happening, I am sure you can successfully say that he did it with 'virtually no press coverage' despite the fact that almost every major news organization had a story about it - mzkply, on 03/28/2008, -0/+7Obama doesn't have a spending limit dude, he didn't apply for public financing.
- kevinwiz, on 03/28/2008, -1/+7I'm offended.
- TRScheel, on 03/28/2008, -3/+9They did actually
In all actuality he got more media coverage in proportion to his votes than any other candidate for a long while, and definitely more internet coverage. - sizzzzlerz, on 03/28/2008, -0/+5I don't know about that but it is definitely true we haven't had a president who could speak in anything but mangled, broken English for 7 years now. It will be refreshing to have someone in the White House who doesn't make you cringe when you hear him make a speech.
- whatthefu, on 03/28/2008, -1/+6Well, to be fair we haven't exactly had a candidate for president that is an inspiring speaker since the Internet really gained traction.
- inactive, on 03/29/2008, -0/+5Your opinion. 1 vs 1,000,000
My opinion + 38 others thus far vs Your 1
You aren't fairing too well. I think you should quit. - SenorCardgage74, on 03/28/2008, -5/+10....Suzywang3000's list of the men she's slept with.
- robthom, on 03/28/2008, -0/+5Lol. I kinda liked Ron Paul except for his supporters.
- theaceoffire, on 03/29/2008, -0/+5[Reply sent: Troll not found. Please resend.]
- robthom, on 03/28/2008, -2/+6Desperate bashing when you have no argument.
It's insidious. - TheNeptune, on 03/29/2008, -0/+4Actually, Dean has got tons of credit - I just read in a Rolling Stones article how the work of Dean has paved the way for Obama - any person in the political know will tell you that Dean built Obama, and it's the primary reason Clintons are the Dem outsiders because Dean is out of favor and the Clintons want to build a new Dem Party without Dean... thus why Dean put his machine to work behind Obama and not Hillary.
The Clinton's feud with Dean is the reason Hillary is trailing Obama. Dean is the founder of this new style of politics - he's a better strategist than politician though... but he's widely credited for:
Internet campaigning / donations.
Small donors.
Attacking red states instead of the Dem core. - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -16/+20Ron Paul's followers made Ron Paul look stupid.
- ThndrShk2k, on 03/29/2008, -1/+5Then don't listen to the supporters and listen to him himself.
If it was the supporters making him look stupid, then you would have to agree that he wasn't stupid before you heard of his supporters. Personally I just ignore the overzealous followers and try to listen to the issues the politicians present, not the possibly false words their supporters may spew. - ThndrShk2k, on 03/29/2008, -0/+4So I guess Ron Paul bashing is all the craze because half of the half-assed supporters don't think he has a chance, and thus quit?
Shame really. I would assume people would bash McCain over Ron Paul any day of the week due to McCain's stupid past. - saska, on 03/29/2008, -3/+6If you cannot tell the difference between contributions grouped by employer (required information when donating to a candidate) in the database and contributions from a PAC, you're either wilfully misstating or wilfully ignoring the facts.
- luvtosurf, on 03/28/2008, -2/+5"Over 6 million in one day with virtually no press coverage?" I didn't know Ron Paul had achieved that... now... that's impressive! I heard him speak doing the Republican Debates and I must admit I was impressed. I was surprised that he was Republican. He sounded more like an "Independent" candidate.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -3/+6I'm a neocon? oh brother, you really don't know how to look at a person's history on Digg do you? Imbecile.
- saska, on 03/29/2008, -0/+3There is no point in having the discussion with people who frame their arguments this way, cwcentral.
Please go ahead and keep telling yourself that although my employer's PAC (of which I am a member) contributed a lump sum of money to Hillary Clinton, the fact that I donated to Ron Paul's and Obama's campaigns personally, and many other employees did too, therefore makes my employer a corporate contributor to those candidates. It still isn't accurate. In fact, I am a member of the PAC because I expect them to look out for the welfare of my employer, and I make personal contributions because I look out for my own welfare.
There is a way to draw inference here, though. It goes like this: employees in these industries support these candidates. Now, if you hate technology workers like me or bankers like the employees of Goldman Sachs, or if you think that we don't see America through the same lens you do, that's fine. Just don't go extrapolating your opinion of that as fact. - robthom, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3If he was buying the election at least he would be buying for the people instead of the grotesquely rich and billion dollar corporations.
If somebody does have to buy it then I hope its Obama. - inactive, on 03/29/2008, -1/+4Buried for injecting cynicism into what was a heartwarming comment. Spread your urine on another parade.
- stinkypyper, on 03/28/2008, -2/+5So there is actually a rule book for this somewhere and Barrack has taken a sharpie to it.
- saska, on 03/28/2008, -1/+4Its insidious what?
- ThndrShk2k, on 03/29/2008, -0/+3He did get coverage, but that seems not to matter. A person I know at school who's a republican is voting for McCain even though he doesn't like him, and thought Ron Paul only raised $1,000,000. He was surprised that he raised more than the rest of the candidates and had $4.2 mil on Nov 5th and $6 mil on December 16th.
Ron Paul is currently getting more coverage even with Fox due to the current economic standing and his campaign. - ThndrShk2k, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2Some of his supporters are not too bad. Most of them are more informed than most of the supporters the other candidates have.
They just seem a bit... too overzealous. They have a right to be, because they probably wouldn't have voted or even participated in the current election year without him, but they just needed to tone it down a bit.
Don't base him on his supporters either. A lot of people attack the supporters and immediately think Ron Paul is bad because of his very enthusiastic supporters not presenting him in the full light, but as a trophy lamp.
Currently he's not out of the race yet and could very well turn the tides at the RNC, but it's the only glimmer of hope the supporters have, and the ones who are sticking it out until the end are doing everything they can to influence it. - searage, on 03/29/2008, -1/+3Why? Tells us your favorite policy he want to implement.
- thefirstenemy, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3I think it's just a fad.
- inactive, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2Dave Douche Dave Douche Dave Douche.... has a special ring to it.
- scottc, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2True. The innovators usually don't get the credit. It's the imitators that follow them and do a better job of using the innovations. Microsoft is a good example of that.
- PhilLesh69, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2If you watch mainstream news, you should find this offensive. This guy is not binding his presidency with corporations and special interest groups.
This was why I actually thought Ron Paul might be a fresh, new start for our great democracy (though I was not a Ron Paul nut, I just toyed with the idea that I could vote for him.)
While I still don't count McCain out, as I think he might be playing the system in order to win, while holding onto his earlier beliefs (and at the same time, not discounting that he could have sold out.) I am much more in favor of a candidate who has not taken money from big money donors, from corporations with an interest in having leverage with a candidate.
I'm sure he has taken some money from some big interest donors, but the more they avoid this, the better. - Pherdnut, on 03/29/2008, -2/+4The "investments" Obama donated to charity you mean?
- jimjoke, on 03/29/2008, -3/+5Gotta love how quickly Digg has swept Ron Paul under the rug and switched to Obama.
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