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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+231Obama is very smart. I've been reading his latest book. Returning lobbyists money was the right thing to do. Way to go Obama!
- Slayback, on 10/12/2007, -8/+160So are you saying you wouldn't vote for Obama if he ended up with the most money, even if he didn't get it through lobbyists and special interest groups?
- Salgat, on 10/12/2007, -18/+138Wow, aren't you the rebel, voting against someone purely based on them being the most popular.
- Gadren, on 11/10/2007, -20/+131I already was planning on supporting Obama, but this is just one more example of how honorable he is.
- Rikushix, on 10/12/2007, -16/+74Mad props to Obama.
- Easty, on 10/12/2007, -10/+66I support Obama, and I'd vote for him if I was a) over 18 and b) American.
But he's just far too nice and ethical for a politician. There must be something wrong with him somewhere.
He must eat babies for breakfast, or help old ladies halfway across the street then leave them in the middle of 80mph traffic, or knock on peoples' doors then run away, or something. - twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -18/+68@jaycliche:
Imus never said "black women are nappy-headed hos." He said that the women on that basketball team (both black and white) were nappy-headed hos. Someone else inferred the rest. - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44ahhh the educated voter.
- WhiteIce89, on 10/12/2007, -13/+52This is how you tell the difference between a candidate who is only after his own interests, and one who is after the general interests of the people. Nice job =)
- niradg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42Obama has done well at fundraising because he has solicited smaller donations from the most number of people. Nothing wrong with that.
- maks327, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5050k is nothing when it comes to campaign funds these days. He'll get more positive publicity out of this than he could ever get spending that money on advertising. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, I'm pretty impartial. Just calling it what it is: a publicity stunt.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+48I can honestly say I have always felt very distanced from the mainstream politicians and never had a strong interest in the frontrunner's until now. The past two elections I had voted for Nader. Thanks to Digg, I am definitely voting for Obama, and really am thankful that I have learned so much about him, because I have been telling alot of other people. Hopefully he has a good shot and gets the democratic nomination over Hillary. I cant think of anyone else besides Guilliani I would have voted for, being a New Yorker and all and having seen how much he cleaned up NYC for the better, but I really don't want to vote republican at this time. So, thanks Digg for schooling me on Obama =)
- postaboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35if you check my digg history you'll see that I sympathize with the republicans
but this is just a great move by Obama and i would love to see all candidates have the balls to do the same thing
+digg - venir, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Over 90% of his campaign contributions have come from private donors.
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?cid=N00009638 - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -13/+38"the Obama campaign still has relied on political and policy advice from Washington lobbyists and does accept donations from lobbyists spouses"
Wow. "Sir, I will not take your money! I have strong ethics sir! Have your wife cut me a check." - itsameericle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30How do you know he has no hidden agenda? If you don't know about it, maybe its still hidden?
haha.....
but in all seriousness we need a change in washington...obama is one of the best choices in this sense....and to all the skeptics, i give you this-> He actually has a solid idea of policy (as evidenced by impromptu commentary following the state of the union. EVEN IF he didn't have anything to offer, could it get worse than it is now? - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28"So it's good he does flip flop on his ideals, thats what makes people not vote."
Now there is original line. Everyone should stick to their decisions regardless of what happens. So did you grow up to be the same thing you wanted to be as a little kid? If not then you are a flip-flopper too. - jfotos, on 10/12/2007, -12/+30have you EVER heard of ANY politician giving money BACK??? no. its a new kind of politics. its a new kind of candidate.
- dmsean, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Always remember America, every president is the same!
When they become president they are taken into a smokie room with all the Rich CEO scum ***** of the world and shown a video of the JFK assasination from a video angle no one else has seen it from, almost like it was shot from the grassy knoll.
Then they ask him "Any questions Mr President?"
He says "Only what my agenda is!"
/stolen from bill hicks! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22jaycliche
"Nappy means someone with very curly hair who doesn't brush or comb it and it mattes into dreadlocks and implying unkempt. Are you telling me that all the white players had very curly hair and therefore could be called nappy? Were white women in america ever bought and sold like whores?"
You're assuming that insults are actually supposed to make sense. Since when do inflammatory remarks conform to reality?
Regardless of what he meant, it says something about our culture that we all jumped to racism over sexism. His remarks were inappropriate, and his employer fired him as was their prerogative, but the public response speaks volumes about what our society is prepared to expect and from whom. When people like Al Sharpton are allowed to present themselves as the judges of decency and meaning, we have a problem. - ArgusSmith, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Am I missing something? Last time I checked, smoking cigarettes did not radically change your view on political issues, so why does it matter?
- PepeGSay, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18lol, he *did* spend that 50k. He gave it back and "bought" a bunch of free publicity from the slobbering masses.
- Skywise, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Yeah... it's not like anyone's actually RTFA...
"While shunning lobbyists money, the Obama campaign still has relied on political and policy advice from Washington lobbyists and does accept donations from lobbyists spouses."
50,000 out of a whole 26 million... and they only found 49 lobbyists... riiiight... How much ad space would 50,000 buy? How much word-of-mouth political "ad space" did he just buy? - simX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@darkslide29:
I am SO SICK of people saying that Nader lost the election for Gore. Everyone has the right to vote for whoever they want, including for Nader. If Gore really did lose votes to Nader, then maybe he should have listened to those voters and their concerns so that he could have secured their vote. It was entirely within GORE'S power to get those votes; it is not the responsibility of the voter to vote for someone who doesn't represent their views just because it could potentially prevent a worse candidate from winning.
Maybe instead of berating someone for voting for Nader, you should berate the politicians for continuing to allow a fundamentally flawed voting system which allows a candidate who doesn't best represent the overall will of the voters to win just because of some minor third-party candidate. Maybe you should call your representative's office and berate them so they push for instant run-off voting. You could berate your representative for allowing the lame-ass policies of states like Florida that purged and disenfranchised many voters because their name was similar to someone who was held in prison. You could also berate your politician for allowing and condoning touch-screen voting machines that are inherently insecure and inaccurate and you could also berate them for not pushing for the requirement of paper trails.
But don't you ***** DARE blame someone just because they voted for Nader. - DesertJeepster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12 From the article, "While shunning lobbyists money, the Obama campaign still has relied on political and policy advice from Washington lobbyists and does accept donations from lobbyists spouses." I guess the 50,000 he returned wasn't channeled correctly.
- zeptobyte, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14$50000 is, honestly, not much when he's raised $25 mil otherwise. So this is a brilliant decision. By doing so, he's not really giving up much sorely-needed money, but is gaining a lot of points with many people. Excellent move, Obama.
- jnosanov, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15What makes him qualified exactly? He is much smarter than W and less robotic and asexual than Hillary, but Ron Paul is far more qualified to uphold the constitution.
- Salgat, on 10/12/2007, -18/+29So far hes one of the only candidates with no hidden agenda.
- acdcfanbill, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14" While shunning lobbyists money, the Obama campaign still has relied on political and policy advice from Washington lobbyists and does accept donations from lobbyists spouses."
What kind of crap is that, that seems the opposite of honorable to me. Unless this article is incorrect. - JerMe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Doesn't make any sense to accept money from spouses of lobbyists...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11ron paul told lobbyists not to even bother sending money at all ,so there is no need to return that which should have never been taken in the first place.it's liberating really. he doesn't have to waste time grandstanding and touting himself as honorable and all that rot and he has plenty of time to talk real issues that none of these other clowns will touch with a 10 foot pole. if obama is so great then ask him if he will back legislation to repeal the (illegal)federal reserve act, and 16th ammendment.
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Before you guys start lavishing praise on Obama for "taking a leadership position on this issue," make sure you read all the way to the last paragraph in the article:
"John Edwards, the former senator from North Carolina, is another Democratic presidential candidate who has made a point of not accepting money from lobbyists or PACs."
In other words, this is just a typical election campaign strategy of jockeying for position. John Edwards made this part of his campaign, so Obama has to respond in kind. To a guy who has raised more than $25 million, and there's still another year of fundraising to go, $50k isn't pocket change but it's not a loss that will be felt, either. - djAnakin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15All politicians are dirty. He returned this small amount of money, but do you really think he's going to turn down all the money big business and lobbyists offer? Not a chance.
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?cid=N00009638 - kettlehead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9TFA looks really great and has me thinking highly of him as usual until I read:
"While shunning lobbyists money, the Obama campaign still has relied on political and policy advice from Washington lobbyists and does accept donations from lobbyists spouses."
He just lost my vote. A painfully obvious attempt to mislead; much credit to the journalists for including that in an otherwise slanted article, though I wish there were greater focus because too many people are headline skimmers.
I'm off to go see who's running in the libertarian party now, kthxbye. - tyaron, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12If you took the time to do your research, you would know that most of Obama's contributions are around 25 dollars. Not exactly the average contribution size of the rich and wealthy. Yes I know you're a cynical no good dirtbag, but I'd like to give this man the benefit of the freakin' doubt here.
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Oh please. This is just for show. If you think Obama is any different from the others I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you.
- toucci, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10From the article:
While shunning lobbyists money, the Obama campaign still has relied on political and policy advice from Washington lobbyists and does accept donations from lobbyists spouses.
"As we've said and as this illustrates, this policy isn't a perfect solution to the problem of money in politics and special interest sway in Washington," Burton said of the decision to return the funds. "But it is an important symbol of the kind of administration that Obama will have in the White House."
IMO
"an important symbol" = important PR move. I like Obama, but it's important to be able to see what this case really is about. - BrainInAJar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"Were white women in america ever bought and sold like whores?"
There's actually a big problem with eastern european women sold in to sex slavery in america & american immigration law doesn't help much...
so... to answer your question, yes... white women in america /are/ sold as whores, even today - loganhid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9you make a fair, actually very good point.
All of America's top and true presidents killed - 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Ron Paul definitely has his record to back him up. If he voted wrong or accepted some dodgey money then his credibility would be gone completely, so I definitely have much more faith him him, he is definitely principled.
If Obama is 100% truthful about this 50,000 out of 25,000,000 then I would applaud him. Also, it would be good if someone could send him at economic text book and show him that universal health care ***** does not work in the long term. The NHS here in the UK is so crap compared with private health care. - robshoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6He's either a really, really, really honest and honorable guy, or a genius at marketing himself.
- heavensblade23, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Edwards is apparently doing the same thing.
- thrallie, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15Why is this guy looking more and more like David palmer from the first 2 seasons of 24? I always wanted a president like Palmer..and this guy might be him. I mean..I personally am a libertarian, but I know in the 08 election the chances of a libertarian being president is almost zero.
On the other hand..I will be voting for Ron Paul ..that guy is my pick for president. He has a chance too, which is awesome.
I just don't trust democrats or republicans enough. And yes, while ron paul is running under the republican ticket he is for total liberty, even drug legalization. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@ muyoso:
Free speech doesn't mean you don't have to take responsibility for what you say. It just means that you won't be arrested/fined/etc. Yes, people have the right to make racist comments. On the other hand, everyone else has the right to call them racists and boycott their products/services. Their employers also have the right to fire them for making racist comments on the grounds that it is bad for business... or because they don't want to be associated with racism. Then, when they get fired, you have the right to complain about it. At no point in that series of events is freedom of speech violated. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?cid=N00009638
He gave back $50,000, but kept $1.3 million. Nice publicity stunt. He got his moneys worth for that $50,000.
Digg is an embarrassment as a news sight, it's so biased. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Did you notice that he didn't identify the lobby behind the donation? No harm, no foul, everybody gets out clean.
He's clever, this one. - lulzlulzlulz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"i will not be voting for the person with the most money. period."
Maybe you won't. But every candidate in the last 50 years who had the most money ended up getting elected.
There are FAR more sheep than free thinkers. - pogfreak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I agree. Just reading the responses here it looks like Obama bought everyone's trust for $50,000 - barely a drop in the bucket!
- TheIconoclast31, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9@maks327
You're absolutely correct, I don't know why you're getting Dugg Down. A modern political campaign can easily run hundreds of millions of dollars.
I AM, however, impressed that such a large percentage of his funding comes from private contributors. - scoreloot, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I am hoping he wins the Dem spot. The only thing he has done so far thats been a little too over the top was jumping on the 'fire Imus' band wagon. Aside from that, so far so good, and will be getting my vote, as long as he is the Dem candidate. But if he doesn't there is no way Hillary gets that vote.
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