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- dBass, on 05/21/2008, -21/+96If only after being in Washington for over 20 long years, McSame could keep his Sunni-Shiite straight, or understand who is really in charge in Iran of the nuke program and country, maybe, just maybe we could take his dumb ass seriously.
Surely the repubs could have come up with a better candidate than this clueless, loser. - fishbeef33, on 05/21/2008, -10/+65It's much easier for the common American to understand things in terms of good and evil. Only us "elite" liberals would dare to look at world policy in the nuanced way in which the real world actually exists. The conservatives have done a heckuva job in the past few years training us to see certain countries and their leaders as one-dimensional, evil, movie-style villians. We're comfortable with that. That's how the world works in TV and movies.
It all comes down to education vs. emotion. Are you the type of person who hits back immediately when attacked, or do you hesitate to think about the greater consequences? Don't confuse what IS better with what FEELS better. And don't do the stupid macho thing and call the hesitater a pussy. The "pussy" WILL fight when necessary. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -18/+50Look at all the Neo-Con grunts in this thread. What a train wreck.
- casey2kazan, on 05/21/2008, -2/+35Wolf Blitzer badly needs a vacation -from TV.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/21/2008, -21/+51I would have used stronger words than Obama used. McCain's stance on foreign policy is ignorant, arrogant, and dangerous. You can't resolve a problem you have with someone if you won't even have a conversation with them. The Bush/McCain strategy is just to let a situation fester until the only option left is military intervention.
It's time to show some real courage and meet our enemies face-to-face, instead of just calling them "evil" and hiding from them like Bush has done.
The right wing conservatives thought Reagan was a hero for meeting face-to-face with the Soviet Union ( a huge nuclear threat to us at the time), but now it appears the Republicans have lost their balls and only want to stick their heads in the sand. - BryanG412, on 05/21/2008, -4/+25Repeating the same task and expecting different results is the definition of insanity...
- thewump, on 05/21/2008, -6/+25Oh really? Killing people doesn't bring peace anymore? No *****.
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -11/+30The more the American people get to see of John McCain the more they will realize that he is wrong on nearly every foreign policy and economic issue.
- Terr01, on 05/21/2008, -1/+14@DavidS9: McCain has made that kind of mistake (even the exact same one) repeatedly, and his kind of "mistake" is far more likely to cause problems. Calling it a "senior moment" is actually very charitable compared to alternative explanations.
- ncairns, on 05/21/2008, -2/+14McCain did it like nineteen times, and only corrected himself when Lieberman whispered in his ear. Either he's ignorant or senile. Your choice, GOP.
- reuscel, on 05/21/2008, -1/+12Wow,that's some great research you did there. I mean, it's nice that you admit you don't know where this imaginary report came from, but that's why you probably should have avoided commenting in the first place. Moron.
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -11/+21Haha look at the childish response from the Neo-Con anti-American who supports Bush negotiating with the largest funder of terrorism, Saudi Arabia, and Stevanoski supports Bush giving arms to Lebanon which is a terrorists state.
Why do you support Bush capitulating to the terrorists Stevanoski? You do know that those actions undermine our troops.
Why do you hate our troops Stevanoski? - Waiting2awake, on 05/21/2008, -1/+12Re-e-eally?
Care to share this? - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -8/+18wow a slip up and a fundamental misunderstanding of the players involved in the war we are fighting.
Are you that childish Stevanoski?
Ohh never mind, you are just an anti-American bottom feeding scum here on Digg representing the lowest common denominator in society.
Doing a good job at it too. - sqwirl, on 05/21/2008, -0/+10Apparently, you should join them.
- Bith8654, on 05/21/2008, -3/+13I just find it funny that when there was the whole McCain holding his mic upside down thing republicans got all pissed off that people were making fun of it. I said straight up if the same thing happened to Obama you know as well as I do you guys would go on about it forever and WOW look at that I was right.
- Terr01, on 05/21/2008, -0/+10"Frankly, the Cuban people don't want America to talk to the Castro regime. They just want the Castros dead, and whoever is willing to make that happen is fine by them."
SOURCE POLL PLEASE.
Seriously, I think you can't make that kind of statement if you're only listening to militant Cuban expatriates in the USA.
It's the same kind of "I AM the people" crap some people pull when they call you "antisemitic" for holding opinions that large majorities of Israeli citizens hold. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -1/+11I support you learning how to use apostrophes.
- ncairns, on 05/21/2008, -3/+12"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."
Gee, how unreasonable. - chrissku, on 05/21/2008, -4/+13John McLame is off to a real bad start in his campaign. Everytime he opens his mouth Obama slaps that ***** down.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/21/2008, -6/+15Come back and try again when you have something intelligent and less childish to say.
- DavidYeah, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8Short Swfhunter: O'reilly says there's hidden meaning in Obama's speeches.
- HanFastolfe, on 05/21/2008, -3/+11While not all the opponents of the United States are truly evil, what can not be nuanced away is that evil does exist in this world. I'm not going to Godwin the thread (I'm sure someone else will), but evil in the world didn't begin nor end with,"you know who".
"education vs. emotion"? My education, on this subject, has taught me that avoiding being hit in the first place is preferred. Waiting to be hit, then deciding what to do later does an immense disservice to the state/population/individual (it also displays an ignorance with rearguards to the nature of a threat). This is not to be confused with a belligerent stance. More that respect between adversaries is determined by the force of ones convictions to respond to a threat, and the planning/capability of that response.
Hence, when you allude to what "IS", better vs what "FEELS" better you miss the point of what is axiomatically better. While it may "FEEL" better from a moralist point of view to take a hit then fight back (Pearl Harbor), it doesn't serve those that perished in the initial exchange (1177 on the Arizona alone). Besides those lives lost, the loss of tactical advantage in the opening round takes an enormus amount of lives/material to regain the initiative. (note what it took Soviets to expel German forces during WWII)
Maybe that would "FEEL" better to an "educated" "elite", it's counterintuitive to even attempt to argue that it "IS" better.
Many people today revive the quote from Teddy Roosevelt to,"speak softly, and carry a big stick". What can not be overlooked is the "big stick" component. One must be totally prepared to use the,"big stick". Otherwise the softly spoken word will dismissed by ones adversaries as meek prattle. - publiclurker, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8Unfortunately, I'm afraid we will have to deal with the like of you for quite some time.
- Terr01, on 05/21/2008, -3/+11Refineries (and regulations over them) have nothing to do with current problems.
The rise in gas prices has been from *CRUDE* oil prices. Refinery have been fairly low and dull except for very short term spikes like Hurricane Katrina. Ditto for the flat federal tax, which hasn't increased.
We've either got a financial bubble or true "peak oil". If it's a bubble, drilling in untapped domestic areas probably won't ramp up until the bubble bursts and then we end up losing money.
If it's "peak oil", then we should preserve those resources until we really need them, and not "sell low", since they'll just become more valuable over time, at least until nobody needs major supplies of cheap oil anymore. - baldr, on 05/21/2008, -2/+10You do realize that everyone can easily view all your recent comments, don't you?
- Bith8654, on 05/21/2008, -3/+10Hmmm isn't it crazy that spanking is generally considered bad and ineffective in the long run these days?
http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/spanking3to6
http://www.stophitting.com/disathome/factsAndFicti ...
My favorite quote from it "One large study showed that the more parents spanked children for antisocial behavior, the more the antisocial behavior increased (Straus, Sugarman, & Giles-Sims, 1997)."
Oh here's another good one "The more children are hit, the more likely they are to hit others including peers and siblings and, as adults, they are more likely to hit their spouses (Straus and Gelles, 1990; Wolfe, 1987)." - Terr01, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7Well, if we're not being serious, then...
Your MOM contains hidden meanings. And by hidden meanings, I mean... - Terr01, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6"Yeah the thing about meeting with the old USSR was we did it from a position of strength."
WTF are you smoking?
Our position versus Iran is, if anything, even stronger, negotiating from a *better* position of strength.
Their military budget is almost invisible compared to ours. By comparsion, the USSR was trying to maintain a comparable military force and possessed a huge arsenal of nuclear weapons. - Terr01, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6If there's anyone who should be ashamed, I'd say it's the guy who is cross-posting the same copy-pasted response multiple times, eh?
- V0lk, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6McCain's Pastor: Hitler was fulfilling God's will
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/mccain-ba ...
we could do this back and forth all day - ncairns, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6*YAAAWWWWN*
- phrenzy, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5Oh the ***** irony of your response hurts SOOOO much.
- ShisouKen, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5*raises a pinky to the corner of his mouth*
- themonkman, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5Why is he suddenly now a liberal? Just because you don't agree with the way that the Government has been operation in relation to other nations does not make a person a "liberal". I think it's about time that you turn off your tv, stop listening to the pundits, and start using your own neurons to form your opinions and classifications of people.
You know, it is ironic. It's ironic that those calling others "un-American" are the ones who are quite often doing things or agreeing with things that America should never do. We should never support nations that fund terrorism, fascism, or dictatorships. Unfortunately, that is what has happened over the last several decades. We also funded the Taliban in Afghanistan with weapons and other material support during their war with Russia. After the war, we failed to help them rebuild anything in their country after they effectively fought and won a proxy war against us vs the Soviets. It's no wonder why they had so much hate for us. They spilled all of their blood fighting a war we weren't willing to fight on our own and we wouldn't even give them a million dollars to build a new school for their children. - sodade, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5Well spoken, but you (and the rest of the "big stick" crowd) fail to realize that the only big stick we have is in remote warfare, which is only good for destruction, not control. With the Iraq debacle, we have proven to the world that military power is only good for defense and a bomb em till they are a parking lot offense. Why didn't we learn this from russia with their failure to control Afghanistan?
- nahaleitan, on 05/21/2008, -3/+7This comment is clearly plagiarized from this article by Charles Krauthammer.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrautham ...
For that alone, buried. How does this stuff even manage to pass as original thought here? - cerejota, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Yah, the Antiobamabotsbots are much more annoying than the Obamabots
- dagamer34, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4The areas of Pakistan where bin Laden would be hiding, the Pakistani government has 0 control over. Why else do you think he hides there?
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -4/+8anything with McCain = bad in title will get dugg up ... .I bet you don't even have to have an article ... hmm interesting idea ... thanks hahha...
Emo kids stop cutting themselves and dugg me down in 5, 4, 3, 2 ,1 .... - badfrog, on 05/21/2008, -13/+17Damn, just when the HuffingtonSpam had slowed down, now we get another day with 3 on the front page.
- ncairns, on 05/21/2008, -4/+8Listen, we all know that your only hope for November is to convince stupid people that being old as ***** is somehow an advantage for McCain, but if there's one place it's not going to work it's here. Go back to the comfortable echo of LGF.
- vexingmodstwo, on 05/21/2008, -3/+8I'm in the same boat. I actually want Obama to win so that these political noobs can learn a good lesson:
1) Politicians are not worthy of this kind of hero-worship.
2) Obama is just as full of ***** as the next politician. - Terr01, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5WTF, you're *supposed* to mention You-know-who (Voldemort!) and engage in immediate ad-hominem attacks! This is the internet, we have standards!
But seriously, have a digg.
As for comments about "first strikes"... That depends on the size of military force, large political considerations (esp. drawing in allied support.)
In the case of Iran, our relative military forces are so different that we cannot use examples of WWII. While we may not have the manpower to *occupy* and pacify a defeated Iran (due to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc), we certainly have more that enough convential military power we need to squash them flat and to support any friendly country that may be the first-strike target.
Additionally, I do not believe the Iranian clerics are either insane or suicidal enough that the threat of powerful retaliation is not sufficient to prevent a first-attack scenario. - neognostic, on 05/21/2008, -4/+8You need to update your reading skills, he wants to continue the fight against al Qaeda, not Pakistan. Yes there are al Quaeda in Pakistan, and Obama has said that he would work with Pakistan to get al Quaeda out.
Of course a lot of this is mute until we find out what the peace accord that has been worked out between the western tribal lands of Pakistan and the Government of Pakistan that was announced today. - neognostic, on 05/21/2008, -3/+7It's a description, not name calling, and I think she hit it right on the head.
- orangefly, on 05/21/2008, -3/+6they are just trying to blackmail congress into opening up more drilling.....that is the only reason for the price increases....
- geneikillua, on 05/21/2008, -3/+6Iran doesn't have any nukes. With that single fact your entire argument falls apart. I agree a psychotic nation with nukes they could deliver to the US would be more dangerous than the USSR, but this is not yet the case. Talking on equal terms with a country that is inferior and the only reason you want to talk with them is because they threaten you is not always the best option and could in a certain light be viewed as appeasement.
- ncairns, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4Second.
- Bith8654, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4Yeah and their claws hurt like a bitch :P well said.
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