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- silent128, on 01/26/2009, -8/+67Finally some one who realizes that the best stimulus is investing in our future not spending our children's money to bailout greedy bankers and scam artist.
- durruticolumn, on 09/18/2009, -1/+49
I was listening to a talk given by Steven Chu a year or so ago, where he talks about how China has power lines in that can transport electricity over 2000km with 7% loss. The most we can do is 100km with 7% loss.
The last ten years of my life, I've realized how far behind America's infrastructure has gotten. These are things Clinton should have been upgrading, let alone Bush. Hopefully now we can start to get into the 21st century. - smartj, on 01/26/2009, -1/+42China invests 15 TIMES more than we do in infrastructure per year. That's why they are winning, IMO -- they invest in their own country while we invest in Iraq and China.
- altgeeky1, on 01/26/2009, -1/+32Environmentalists are not a monolithic mindset, just like any other viewpoint.
I consider myself an environmentalist, but living totally green is (sadly) a LUXURY. I'll avoid bottled water, and coax 32mph actual from my 1996 Toyota Corolla, and a few othe!r things add up to the best I can do in my position. If I had the money, I'd get a super efficient diesel and run french fry grease, but whatever.
More energy that is clean COMBINED with sensible conservation and efficiency investments.. that's something I've been looking for a president to support. Not this addiction pusher "drill baby drill" deception that will just keep us slaves to the producers. I hope Obama mimics Germany's policy towards tax breaks for solar also... can you imagine, one of the most NORTHERN countries is also a leader in solar production and installation.
Sweet - CommonSense2k8, on 01/26/2009, -5/+34When people realize it is economically beneficial to have green energy, it will change within a year...
Now if only people started to realize Hemp is the solution to our oil problem.... - lhbaker, on 01/26/2009, -1/+27This will make everything perfectly clear: http://digg.com/politics/Barack_and_Michelle_Who_D ...
- divinediva, on 01/24/2009, -8/+34But environmentalists are mounting a challenge against such economic plans.
- smartj, on 01/26/2009, -0/+24This stimulus plan is a political windfall at the expense of America. Only ~15% will actually go to infrastructure improvements while a whooping 33% will go to irrelevant tax cuts. I hate taxes just like the next guy, but now is not the time. I've lost more in my 401K then whatever I could hope to get in a tax cut, so I'd rather see that money go into investing for the future.
- silent128, on 01/26/2009, -0/+23I have no allegiance to any political party. I was going to vote for McCain until he picked Sara Palin as his running mate. And it is the complete opposite of the trickle down scheme. This money would be used for government investment so all the money would go straight to the workers instead of being used as capital for large corporations. There is no trickling, this money will go straight to workers instead of bailing out pointless CEO's and there 7 figure bonus's.
- sulthernao, on 01/26/2009, -0/+21We have over extended ourselves, and that his how many of the greatest civilizations and empires have fallen.
- bsonline, on 01/26/2009, -1/+18Old guy... 3000 miles of border fence. New guy? 3000 miles of infrastructure. Change we need, yo.
- inactive, on 01/26/2009, -4/+19The guy has been in office less than a week.
I get the sense that everyone is STILL expecting an immediate favorable resolution to matters that are of personal importance.
It's the economy, stupids. I just hope the house and senate gop'ers get it. - silent128, on 01/26/2009, -1/+16@merarch
Infrastructure investments create not only a large amount of jobs during there creation but it also saves us money in the long run and increases productivity. - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -3/+17someone missed the reference
- showoffjp, on 01/26/2009, -5/+18Except the fact that Obama supported the bailout
- painting, on 01/26/2009, -0/+13I agree, lets just do nothing.
- smartj, on 01/26/2009, -1/+13Why would you want to stretch a power line that far? All the electricity would leak out of the line before it got 1/10th of the way.
- MrHappyMan, on 01/26/2009, -2/+14Wow. Europe better get its sh*t together. The US may just overtake the EU in renewable energy initiatives.
- silent128, on 01/26/2009, -0/+11I am not speaking about cap and trade system nor is the article, it is just stating the investment in infrastructure. Cap and trade has nothing to do with this and is more of an environmental issue.
- inactive, on 01/26/2009, -0/+11Hey randumbusername why don't you help us out and explain what the Cap and Trade System is and how it relates to the point silenet128 made...
Oh wait, you can't...you went off a some random ass tangent... - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -1/+11Trickle down is what Bush was doing....We need to invest in our future, not our banks.
- almondfilter3, on 01/26/2009, -2/+12Jeez, the bias is crazy. I can't remember hearing a story about this kinda thing the previous 8 years...chill...
- silent128, on 01/26/2009, -5/+15Wow your retarded. I love how nut jobs make up random crap and think they will convince any one with there *****. Please stop posting.
- smartj, on 01/26/2009, -3/+13You're assuming that we lived in a capitalist society to begin with. When republican congress and Clinton in the 90's deregulated the financial industry, no free market. When Bush's SEC failed to regulate, again, no free market took a hit. When Bush bailed out the banks, again, no free market.
What is the capitalism you speak of? Either the government stabilizes the markets so that they can be free again, or revolution will occur. - inactive, on 01/26/2009, -0/+9Amen. Let's all swallow this pill NOW! Not pass it off for another day.
- RogueGenius, on 01/26/2009, -5/+14tkothekdr < *****.
- RogueGenius, on 01/26/2009, -3/+12winnestow,
I love saying this to ***** like you:
He's your president. Deal with it. - ProfessorRiffs, on 01/26/2009, -2/+10This just in:
Shut up. - waldo686, on 01/26/2009, -1/+9how do you think we're paying for the Iraqi/Afghanistani wars?
- lhbaker, on 01/26/2009, -3/+11Hey, winnestow, The Unabomber called. He wants his manifesto back.
- Shiftgood, on 01/26/2009, -2/+9are you always a nay-sayer or just when you're on digg?
Please tell me how you are changing the world with your brilliant mind? - t3hbagel, on 01/26/2009, -0/+7You, sir, have enforced the notion that lower IQ = red state.
- Markb3489, on 01/26/2009, -4/+11ok.....now im no lawyer....but im pretty sure he's our president....like 80% sure
- ProfessorRiffs, on 01/26/2009, -3/+10There's a 73% chance that 92% of 28% is 100% of shut up and go away.
- smartj, on 01/26/2009, -1/+8I can't blame the GOP when there are real people out there who think tax cuts are the answer. It's a fundamental problem of perception that people need to change.
- jayll, on 01/26/2009, -1/+8Bush had 8 years. Obama should receive the same time frame.
- cowsgonemadd3, on 01/26/2009, -0/+7Not to mention DSL speeds....I might can now upgrade(with another 1 years contract they dont auto upgrade existing customers) from 1mbps to 3mbps for 40 bucks a month. I am in a rural area. While france and other countries have 20-40mbps or more for 30 bucks a month??
- silent128, on 01/26/2009, -1/+8Our energy grid is wasteful and vulnerable. If you noticed the past 10 years or so massive brown outs have been occurring do to increasing demand. We can massively boost efficiency and saftey of our power grid by upgrading it. As for the FioS thing there is fiber in your area, and pretty much every were in the US for the last 5 years. FioS is not the only Fiber network for end users most cable company's have been using fiber for years, they just didn't advertise like Verizon.
- norman619, on 01/26/2009, -0/+6The reasons our electric bills are so high are because of increased demand, the rising price of oil, and the droping value of the dollar. These are things Obama can't change and our elected officials are not willing to change becasue the choices that need to be made would be unpopular with the peopel and all they really care about is getting re-elected.
- Shiftgood, on 01/26/2009, -7/+13Thanks.
- norman619, on 01/26/2009, -0/+6Someone either missed the ref or was born w/o a sense of humor.
- silent128, on 01/26/2009, -0/+6@randumbusername
You don't seem to grasp what the trickle down theory is. The theory for trickle down economics is that you give tax breaks for large corporations and individuals and hope that they will spend money or hire people. This is the opposite, this is putting money in the hands of workers and hoping it will work its way up. The point of these projects is to create jobs not hope that this money will come down eventually. Yes its obvious that corporations will make money but think about it, all this money will stimulate the economy right away. It will first create numerous jobs in the production of the goods for the construction and then it will do the same when the infrastructure is built, but it does not end there since all of the money that was now made by the workers will be spent and the cycle will continue. Please realize that trickle down theory is not just the bases that corporations will make money it is about where the money is invested and how you hope it will effect the market. If you want more info on trickle down to show this is not whats occurring check my link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economic ... - Apocolypse007, on 01/26/2009, -1/+7It's nice to see someone updating our ancient energy grid and actually encouraging renewables rather than just dismissing them. A US not dependent on foreign oil is one that spends much less time in the middle east.
- bruce86, on 01/26/2009, -3/+9Because people love to donate to charities when the economy is bad and charity is need most.
Oh wait. No. Your plan was ALMOST flawless. try again next economic crisis. - ictoan, on 01/26/2009, -2/+8tell that to the republicans. they want MORE tax cuts in the stimulus plan and is planning to block the Stimulus from going through Senate. It's like after 8 years of failure, you did think they would try a different option but seems like they're expecting things will be different somehow this time around.
- nybble41, on 01/26/2009, -0/+5Tax cuts aren't the problem; deficit spending is. Reduce taxes, by all means--but cut spending even more.
As for the "stimulus" itself, that's like administering drugs to a recovering addict; sure, it can make the withdrawal pains go away for a while, but only at the expense of long-term recovery. - pintomp3, on 01/26/2009, -5/+10Pinochet's Chile > Norway?
- DivisibleByZero, on 01/26/2009, -2/+7I'm not sure what the point is in lowering peoples' power bills by weatherizing their houses, if you're just going to end up raising taxes to pay for it. Conservation is good and all, but who fits into the magic group that benefits from that? Certainly not apartment dwellers like me. But we still get taxed by it.
What about weatherizing peoples' houses, but keeping their energy bills the same and using the difference to pay back the cost of weatherizing. Then when the improvements are paid off, they get lower bills and the rest of us don't lose money. - ThsGuyRightHere, on 01/26/2009, -0/+5If you have fiber do you really need a date?
- angryfirelord, on 01/26/2009, -0/+5Except that when you create money out of thin air, you're not doing yourself a favor. When you have extra currency in circulation, you end up driving the price of goods up. So unless you subscribe to the wacky Keynesian model, injecting liquidity into the market only makes those local economies worse because the cost of living goes up. What we need is SAVINGS, not spending, along with a move towards a sound currency.
Besides, the government never creates jobs. It can only shift the wealth around. I'd much rather have that money in the hands of capitalists who will invest it properly rather than greedy politicians. -
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