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Obama Draws Record Crowd Of 75,000 In Portland
huffingtonpost.com — Sen. Barack Obama has seen his share of large crowds over the last 15 months, but his campaign said they have not approached the numbers gathered along the waterfront here right now.
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- joaob, on 05/19/2008, -10/+128Hopefully they all voted and mailed in their ballots on time. Oregon can send a clear message that they will not be distracted by the politics of fear and division.
- kevinwiz, on 05/19/2008, -16/+4Senator Obama, is that you?
I wish such a crowd would assemble for him in LA- chaosium, on 05/19/2008, -4/+2"I wish such a crowd would assemble for him in LA"
What does that even mean?- MadOtaku, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2It means that kevinwiz wants Obama to draw a crowd in LA that is comparable to the one in Portland.
- chaosium, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2"It means that kevinwiz wants Obama to draw a crowd in LA that is comparable to the one in Portland."
I was looking for context, thanks.
- chaosium, on 05/19/2008, -4/+2"I wish such a crowd would assemble for him in LA"
- cdigioia, on 05/19/2008, -12/+4"will not be distracted by the politics of fear and division."
I'm an Obama supporter, but when people repeat these sound bites it's absolutely ridiculous. I mean who speaks like that?- VinceNoir, on 05/19/2008, -3/+6Talking heads. Big wig politicos. Pundits. Take your pick These people have no lives and no sense of what it is to be a normal human being. Sadly, if someone took a more folksy approach, it would probably appeal to some, but would wind up alienating other large segments of the voters. That's what turned me off to G.W.B. Or at least one of the things... his "down home" attempts just rubbed me the wrong way. I don't like "down home" people either. The ideal president should be an efficient clerk.
- cdigioia, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1Thanks, I didn't mean more folksy, but more specific and less emotionally biased. "politics of fear and division" is more like business speak - it sounds good at a glance, but doesn't really mean anything.
- chaosium, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3"it sounds good at a glance, but doesn't really mean anything. "
Have you been paying attention to ANYTHING the GOP does for the last dozen years, if not decades? - chaosium, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4It wasn't just his "down home" style, it was obviously the pandering "i think you're idiots and you love me for it" veneer.
- allengeer, on 05/19/2008, -0/+10who speaks like that? I'm not sure what you are asking? Who speaks by making clear and articulated statements? Lots of people do.
- cdigioia, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Well, ironically, "clear" and "articulated" mean basically the same thing. Anyway I disagree, "Politics of fear and division" is a vague generalization. What's more, it has a strong emotional bent.
- allengeer, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3first,
irony-The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
None of the words that you used in that statement were used to express something different from its literal meaning.
secondly,
clear-Plain or evident to the mind; unmistakable.
articulate-Expressing oneself easily in clear and effective language
They are not the same. If I had said, Who speaks by making clear statements? I would have not been saying "Who speaks by making clear, effective, self-expressive statements"
Alternatively, if I would have said "Who speaks by making articulate statements" I would not have been saying "Who speaks by making plainly evident to the mind articulate statements."
No the words do not mean "basically" the same thing and express a distinct description of his words. Clearly describes his argument, articulate describes the speech he used to describe his argument. Basic English.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en- ...
Google has 96,000 instances of the phrase "clear and articulate" for what its worth.
As for your argument that "politics of fear and division" is a vague generalization, just because you don't have examples doesn't mean you can't figure out what he is talking about. But here is a list of examples for what Obama talks about with fear and divisive politics.
* Using peoples fear of terrorist attacks to get elected. "I'm the tough candidate against terrorism. You need to vote for me because if you don't we won't be as secure against terrorists"
* Using peoples fear of terrorist attacks to give up their liberties. (see Patriot Act)
* Taking a stance on an issue like negotiations with foreign entities and calling those that don't agree with you similar to Nazi appeasers, thereby dividing your people into people that are Nazi appeasers and not Nazi appeasers. (divisive)
* Calling a group of people elitist, latte-sipping out-of-touch liberals, thereby dividing people into two categories (divisive).
- Fordi, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1How about, "Good. Oregon doesn't seem to be buying the FUD."
- VinceNoir, on 05/19/2008, -3/+6Talking heads. Big wig politicos. Pundits. Take your pick These people have no lives and no sense of what it is to be a normal human being. Sadly, if someone took a more folksy approach, it would probably appeal to some, but would wind up alienating other large segments of the voters. That's what turned me off to G.W.B. Or at least one of the things... his "down home" attempts just rubbed me the wrong way. I don't like "down home" people either. The ideal president should be an efficient clerk.
- neonfunk, on 05/19/2008, -2/+11well don't forgot that there are also tons of drop boxes on election day if you didn't already mail it ... but I think it's going to go strong for barack anyway. the rally today was pure awesome
- Qtip42, on 05/19/2008, -17/+2Maybe it's just me but 75,000 people can't fit into waterfront park.......
I didn't go however. Paul is getting my vote, you know someone who knows a little about financial responsibility.- theaceoffire, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3"75,000 people can't fit into waterfront park"
Step into my clown car and lets talk about this. - croxis, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Yes, they can. I was there in 2004 when 50,000 were in there to see Kerry.
Also, had you read the article, you would have seen that 60,000 were in the park and the additional 15,000 were outside the gates. - ichbeineinrcg, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1The Blues Festival always draws big crowds, too. Waterfront could support 60,000 pretty easily, I think.
It's the parking that would be nightmarish.
- theaceoffire, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3"75,000 people can't fit into waterfront park"
- topgigmedia, on 05/19/2008, -3/+8Once you go Barack, you never go back.
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -4/+1Back to backroom, mudslinging politics as usual?
Saddle up, let's go. - ahoy, on 05/19/2008, -1/+8Barack out with your ***** out.
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -4/+1Back to backroom, mudslinging politics as usual?
- t0x2c, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Better title would be 'you forgot portland'
- taradisiac, on 05/19/2008, -10/+2It's time to come together.
Clinton/Obama '08!- chaosium, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4It's happening as we speak, actually.
- ridercologne, on 05/19/2008, -2/+9You mean Obama/Clinton '08...?
- mrASSMAN, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stat ...
Holy hell. Just.. wow.
- kevinwiz, on 05/19/2008, -16/+4Senator Obama, is that you?
- scoobydoo84, on 05/19/2008, -18/+161I don't like republicons or democrats, however, I think Obama has the capacity, will, desire, intelligence, and sheer tenacity to return this nation to its glory days.
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -19/+0If only the President had that kind of power.
- m0tbaillie, on 05/19/2008, -2/+9Uh, when used correctly, he does.
- Maver1c, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6No president can fix a whole country in a term or two, hopefully he will be a step in the right direction though.
- DevilDriver, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6Republicons. The evil(er) step-brother of the Decepticons.
- kcasper, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1hey don't say that many of those republicans are voting for Obama!!
http://digg.com/politics/Republicans_are_turning_m ...
- kcasper, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1hey don't say that many of those republicans are voting for Obama!!
- vidaliasweet, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1I wonder how much heat or food Obama will allow you in your new glory days? Well here's a hint from his rally in Oregon:
"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.
"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2017877/p ...
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -19/+0If only the President had that kind of power.
- caroyapp1, on 05/19/2008, -10/+65Wow! Now that is a crowd! I remember attending a World Youth Day that had a rally that big with Pope John Paul.
WIsh I was there with those people because where ever Obama goes, people who go and see him have such peace in them. I love them all.
Way to go Oregon! You lead the way because there are so many people who are lost.- hwy9nightkid, on 05/19/2008, -16/+3Oh gawd for a second I thought you meant Ron Paul
- lickmylovepump, on 05/19/2008, -8/+2"people who go and see him have such peace in them."
-insert "Angel of Light" comment here- - Borgcube636, on 05/19/2008, -0/+13Ahh, I'm proud to be from Oregon (portland area, actually :) )
- mikusjay, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Me too (Eugene).
- taradisiac, on 05/19/2008, -9/+1Buried for being a christian.
- RAEP, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3This is the first Christian who sounds like a hippy (rather than a jailer..or a dictator..or a salesman) I've heard in a very long time. Maybe change really is coming.
- canadianbaking, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Are you referring to the parent post or to Obama? They both (I think) claim to worship the invisible sky God so often derided on digg.
- Knucklecallus, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1I live in Portland... I went on a hike today. 3,500 feet elevation gain in 4 miles (plus 90 degree weather) over an Obama speech? What was I thinking!
- dn11, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Portland is a cool city, but they also call Portland "the whitest major city in America". Doesn't seem to be much of a problem for Obama.
- poxonyou, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Apparently they're not WORKING WHITES. You know, REAL Americans who vote for candidates, like Clinton or McCain, because they think Obama sounds too much like Osama and, well, if he gets in power, he'll fire all white bosses in America and replace them with black men on death row.
- OralCavity, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4they must not be hardworking
- InvsibleChimp, on 05/19/2008, -7/+79I was there. I got in line around 11am and got into the park around 2:30pm, just as Obama was taking the stage. Obama welcomed and thanked the crowd of 30,000 people who showed up. Everybody there knew there were more than that. I had no idea there was over double that.
- 3th0s, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8I remember an old lady telling us that there was between 30,000 and 40,000 people who showed up on my way in.
- inverselogic, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5I was there also, freakin hot as hell, but it was nice to actually see the guy I am voting for ;)
- PandaHat, on 05/19/2008, -1/+7I got downtown around 1pm... the Obama volunteers steered us latecomers to the back of the line: all the way from Waterfront park up to PSU; the line seemed to stretch at least a mile. I opted not to stick around (I got to see him last month at the coliseum) but was very pleased to see so many folks out-- everybody seemed to be in a great mood. I have yet to see one Clinton yard sign in this town, though there are probably some out in the trailer parks
- LoveAndSeagulls, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4I wonder if anybody flashed him with all those people there. Looks like a massive awesome concert.
- bhamster, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1as a Washingtonian I happy to see our Mexico step up to the plate.
- 3th0s, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8I remember an old lady telling us that there was between 30,000 and 40,000 people who showed up on my way in.
- rebpeace, on 05/19/2008, -9/+53All we are saying is give peace a chance!
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2"All we are saying...is give us Health Care!"
— A very creative and spot-on demonstration chant at the Eugene Saturday Market yesterday - DarkMirage, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Why should I vote for you?
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2"All we are saying...is give us Health Care!"
- SowingSeeds, on 05/19/2008, -8/+19I hope Oregon follows the positive lead of North Carolina and sends another wrong message to the clinton camp that Obama is the peoples's choice.
- poxonyou, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Obviously, she'll get the message that she must not drop out. She's going to stay in until she can get a crowd of 80,000. In other words, she's never dropping out. 2020 and she'll still be running against Obama.
- maymok, on 05/19/2008, -11/+44This shows true leadership. Obama is like a firefighter who shows up promptly to rescue us from a burning house. Our country is in a bad shape. He is the only one who is honest and has shown real leadership. He is principled and not afraid to tell the truth about our situation.
- AAK15, on 05/19/2008, -10/+24Barack The Vote!
- mediablitz, on 05/19/2008, -10/+88Wait, but I have a conservative in another thread telling me whites won't vote for Obama!
- OffPiste, on 05/19/2008, -4/+20You mean a Clinton supporter.
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4[blink blink]
There's a difference?
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4[blink blink]
- malvado, on 05/19/2008, -0/+45But Portland is PRIME Obama demographic...
Young, liberal, and educated.- mrASSMAN, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7The educated part works particularly well in his favor. What a surprise.
- technokitty, on 05/19/2008, -0/+0This white woman did!!
- kcasper, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1But many republican will. It seems they want change as well. And McCain isn't providing for them.
http://digg.com/politics/Republicans_are_turning_m ...
- OffPiste, on 05/19/2008, -4/+20You mean a Clinton supporter.
- JoanDark, on 05/19/2008, -11/+26WOWWWWW!!!
Thanks, Angie, for this!!
I'm verey happy!!
The people of Portland , white though they are, have no problem with our candidate!!
Well--anyone would go out to see our historical President-to-be!
God bless him and all of them!!
A happy Joan- 3th0s, on 05/19/2008, -1/+18I dunno why race has anything to do with it. Ever since the segregated town of Vanport flooded in 1948 and the blacks moved into northern portland, this city has been anything but whitewash. My highschool was barely 50% white. People here don't really care about race, religion, creed, or sexual preference (which Obama directly mentioned in his speech), all we care about is moving this country forward in a positive way. Thus, Portland unanimously selected Obama as our best choice this afternoon.
- vertigoacid, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7While I'm a Portland native, through and through, I'd have to respectfully disagree that Portland is anything but a white city. Demographics show that we're the whitest big city in America, beating out Seattle at 68% with a whopping 75% of the population here. We like to think that we're a progressive, multicultural hub of the Northwest, but the truth is, some of that is facade and wishful thinking. Tolerance is one thing, and I think we really do have that, but it's really ignorant to believe that racism isn't an issue here. Just because you don't see it manifested in the same way as in outwardly racist areas doesn't mean that everything is okay. Our lack of diversity and separation of cultures into different suburbs can lead to strong yet unintentional biases.
- rpieszak, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1We're really 75% white?? I wouldn't have guessed it.
- vertigoacid, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7While I'm a Portland native, through and through, I'd have to respectfully disagree that Portland is anything but a white city. Demographics show that we're the whitest big city in America, beating out Seattle at 68% with a whopping 75% of the population here. We like to think that we're a progressive, multicultural hub of the Northwest, but the truth is, some of that is facade and wishful thinking. Tolerance is one thing, and I think we really do have that, but it's really ignorant to believe that racism isn't an issue here. Just because you don't see it manifested in the same way as in outwardly racist areas doesn't mean that everything is okay. Our lack of diversity and separation of cultures into different suburbs can lead to strong yet unintentional biases.
- 3th0s, on 05/19/2008, -1/+18I dunno why race has anything to do with it. Ever since the segregated town of Vanport flooded in 1948 and the blacks moved into northern portland, this city has been anything but whitewash. My highschool was barely 50% white. People here don't really care about race, religion, creed, or sexual preference (which Obama directly mentioned in his speech), all we care about is moving this country forward in a positive way. Thus, Portland unanimously selected Obama as our best choice this afternoon.
- scheibs14, on 05/19/2008, -8/+25Amazing to see how this man can bring so many people together. I went to my first political event ever when he stopped by in MN before Super Tuesday
- BostonSteve, on 05/19/2008, -9/+62This is BIG. This is nothing this country has seen in a very long time. It feels like it is time for a new generation to take the lead. It is time for a all generations to return to the ideals and protections our founding fathers so brilliantly crafted in our constitution.
The old guard will not step aside quietly. I have no doubt this will get ugly. But the manipulations that worked for so long will hopefully seem as trite and pathetic as they truly are. It is time for leadership. It is time for integrity. It is time to set our great country back on the path of greatness.- rusty123jimi, on 05/19/2008, -0/+10I was there today...and it truly felt inspiring! This man is the PERFECT person for leading this country out from its troubles! =)
- karalt, on 05/19/2008, -6/+16The capacity to care is what gives life its greatest significance...Yes we can!!
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -16/+3Barack Obama, the official candidate of empty feel good sayings.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5Try reading some of Obama's policy positions before making yourself look so ignorant.
If you need help with the big words, maybe you can find someone older to read them to you:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2Socialism. Global poverty act. Enough said.
Why don't you tell me what happens historically when the government takes away it's citizens guns? - RawCoyote, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3"Why don't you tell me what happens historically when the government takes away it's citizens guns?"
All Iraqi households were required to have a "gun". It sure helped keep them safe from invaders didn't it? Gun ownership provides a sense of security in fearful people. What worries you about the government that you think possessing a gun can remedy?
I own several and have no problems with other responsible people owning firearms, but I don't ever think of them as being my tool to defend the "American way". I use education and the ballot box for that. - masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1answer the question
- PandaHat, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1it was under BUSH that armed soldiers went from house to house in New Orleans, confiscating law-abiding citizens' firearms.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2Socialism. Global poverty act. Enough said.
- thentro, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1cynics never get anything done
- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5Try reading some of Obama's policy positions before making yourself look so ignorant.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -16/+3Barack Obama, the official candidate of empty feel good sayings.
- thentro, on 05/19/2008, -7/+34For comparison, Super Bowl XLII was hosted at University of Phoenix Stadium which can seat a maximum of 73,719 people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Phoenix ...- tintifax3k, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2your comment was picked up by an austrian newspaper and sold as their own :)
http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=3342248 - thentro, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Ha, that would be great if they did. It is probably a coincidence though. Sill, I will take this time to bask in my Austrain fame.
- tintifax3k, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2your comment was picked up by an austrian newspaper and sold as their own :)
- OffPiste, on 05/19/2008, -77/+7Baaaaaaaaaaaaa.
He's got them all fooled.
The women will really like sharia law under an Obama administration.
Goodbye civil liberties. What constitution?- nraphael, on 05/19/2008, -25/+1You got that right, no mistake, no how. You not never lie, not ever no how.
- StarlessKnight, on 05/19/2008, -2/+21Hate to burst your bubble, but the President of the United States does not make law. The President is part of this branch called the "Executive," and what they do in that branch is enforce the law. Another branch, which we like to call the "Legislative," is the one that makes law.
/And I'm being generous to even humor your poor argument that Obama would put forward sharia law.- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -0/+17Way too generous.
- cypriss9, on 05/19/2008, -1/+34You are unbelievably retarded.
- javip, on 05/19/2008, -0/+17that's being offensive to retards
- hitmonval, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8You are as smart as a sack of bricks. Quit relying on forwarded emails for your facts.
- Fordi, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Alarmist idiot much?
- nkoi, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4civil liberties? i thought Gee Dubya took em away with the MCA
- 0Zeitgeist0, on 05/19/2008, -12/+86Obama, America's next great President.
- elamr, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2man, I hope so. I hope he does the right thing if elected.
- RAEP, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5The new FDR?
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -42/+8And the sheeple award goes to
- ssn697, on 05/19/2008, -4/+26You
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -16/+2You must be new here.
- nblsavage, on 05/19/2008, -1/+14I'm not new and I know you're as empty-headed as they come.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -14/+1Coming from the guy who just told me he's "from Portland where they know their *****. Portland says Obama is the real deal"
Excellent reasoning, judgment, and logic. You sir win the internet. - nblsavage, on 05/19/2008, -1/+16Coming from the person who just called 75,000 people "sheeple" without knowing a thing about them, I don't think you have much room to criticize my logic.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -17/+1Again, you shouldn't call other people empty headed. I said Obama wins the sheeple award. I did not say 75,000 people are sheeple. Obama has by far more supporters than the other idiots, and if you look at digg they are very sheeple-like.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -14/+1Only sheeple would bury the obvious reality.
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -1/+15Um, so you're saying Obama wins this "sheeple" thing because he's following the crowd? Which crowd? American people? Ah nevermind. You're making it too easy for me.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -10/+1Read the comment two above yours where I explained that his supporters are sheeple, not him.
- nblsavage, on 05/19/2008, -1/+7So, you are still calling 75,000 people "sheeple"? My original comment about your "logic" stands.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -9/+1I was referring to "many supporters". I never said *all of his supporters are sheeple, or specifically *75,000 are sheeple. I should have been more specific.
- sephiroth965, on 05/19/2008, -1/+7"I said Obama wins the sheeple award."
"Read the comment two above yours where I explained that his supporters are sheeple, not him."
"I never said *all of his supporters are sheeple[...]"
I've never met someone who who was so damn good at contradicting themself! and what the hell are you doing with those asterisks in your last post? - masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -6/+1Explain where the contradiction is instead of splicing my rewordings together.
- Fordi, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4@masterm1nd:
"You must be new here."
You must be under the impression that this is Slashdot.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -16/+2You must be new here.
- nblsavage, on 05/19/2008, -4/+18I'm from Portland and we know ***** when we see it. Obama is the real deal. You and your kind masterm1nd are obsolete.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -10/+2Don't group me with anyone else unless you want me to group you in with the protesters from Portland who burn mock US soldiers in the streets.
- spoons10, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2You're an idiot. If you don't like Obama just say so, but don't cut down your fellow American.
- Izult, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1Really? Explain then why your real deal voted for the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorist Act and Patriot Act just to name a few. Or do Civil liberties really mean nothing to you? He as much a special interest whore as the other two.
- PolishLogic, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1Explain to me how a bill that calls for a commission to conduct research on why people take to violent radicalization violates civil liberties. Answer: it doesn't.
As for violent radicalization and homegrown terror itself, did the Oklahoma City bombing make you say "wow, those people are merely exercising their freedom of speech in a big way"?
"Taking away your civil liberties" is the biggest catchphrase cop-out I can think of. What civil liberties have you personally lost lately? - Izult, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Read the bill again and use that polished logic you claim to have. It gets scarier when you remember that the Military Commissions Act of 2006' which suspended habeas corpus allowing the president to declare you an 'enemy combatant' and ends your rights to seek legal or judicial relief from unlawful imprisonment was signed. Also the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007' which essentially eliminated the protections of the Posse Comitatus Act and re-wrote the Insurrection Act.
If you read through HR 1955 you'll see that the definitions are horribly vague leaving it wide open to interpretation as to what constitutes terrorist activity or promoting violent radicalization.
FYI I was in earshot of the blast (you could hear it as far away as Stillwater) when that ***** happened & saw the aftermath live not just on TV. While it was a ***** thing to happen, people are going to do what they're going to do to prove a point regardless of what the government knows. 9/11 proved that and don't tell me you buy that there was NO warning because there was. Rice flat out lied. What i want is for the rules we have in place to be followed, and that includes right to a speedy trial by jury. If we allowed it for McVeigh, whom most people can agree was the scum of the earth, we sure as hell can allow it for the others including the "enemy combatants" many of whom have yet to be formally charged. We have laws for a reason and no one not even the government is above them.
- PolishLogic, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1Explain to me how a bill that calls for a commission to conduct research on why people take to violent radicalization violates civil liberties. Answer: it doesn't.
- masterm1nd, on 05/19/2008, -10/+2Don't group me with anyone else unless you want me to group you in with the protesters from Portland who burn mock US soldiers in the streets.
- dinot, on 05/19/2008, -1/+4And the Sour Grapes award goes to...
- ssn697, on 05/19/2008, -4/+26You
- Wamzlee, on 05/19/2008, -19/+6This reminds me of when Kerry drew that huge crowd in Madison, Wisc.
- 3th0s, on 05/19/2008, -5/+27I was at this rally, It was pretty amazing to see that many crammed into a an area that was only supposed to have 30,000, tops. His speech was kind of the generic rhetoric we've all heard time and time again, but the mutual enthusiasm between him and the crowd was special.
- lickmylovepump, on 05/19/2008, -47/+4isn't anyone else tired of Osama news yet?
- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -1/+28You seem to be confused.
"Osama" is the guy the Republicans gave cash and weapons to when the claimed he was a "freedom fighter" for attacking the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. As usual, it turns out they were completely wrong and he ended up being America's biggest enemy.
"Obama" is your next president, who will try to undo some of the massive damage the Republicans have done to America.
There - I hope that cleared things up for your tiny little mind.- bigsteve, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Tadaa
- anogenic, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Please report anyone using this reference as offensive.
- dinot, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3No. We haven't heard from Osama bin Laden in a while. Have we caught him yet?
- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -1/+28You seem to be confused.
- ssn697, on 05/19/2008, -3/+53I keep hearing the Republicans say "keep Obama and Clinton going at each other" like it is good for the Republicans. In the meantime, the Democratic party is setting records for new registered voters, and voter turnout.
There is a long time until the election, but if I were the Republican party heads, I'd be preparing for an ass whooping.- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -0/+22I agree with you 100%
I'm 57 years old and I've never seen the public so energized and enthusiastic to vote. A recent poll also showed that 82% of Democrats are happy with their candidates, while only 24% of Republicans like their candidates (76% of Republicans are unhappy with their choices this year).
It's a damn good year to be a Democrat and/or an Independent. We're ready to change the direction of this country and the Republicans don't have enough strength or support to stop us.- ssn697, on 05/19/2008, -0/+16The other encouraging sign, IMO, is how dirty politics is backfiring. There are too many people with access to the Internet now. When one sentence is used to try to vilify a candidate, too many people can research and find out what was REALLY said now.
Plus, America has heard it all from Bush. People just aren't buying into the old tactics. It really has completely changed, hasn't it? I am 45, and I notice a completely different tenor to this election than any in my lifetime. I am glad to see it.
- ssn697, on 05/19/2008, -0/+16The other encouraging sign, IMO, is how dirty politics is backfiring. There are too many people with access to the Internet now. When one sentence is used to try to vilify a candidate, too many people can research and find out what was REALLY said now.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -0/+22I agree with you 100%
- The_Wallbanger, on 05/19/2008, -4/+17Even bigger slide show..
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=obama+portland&d=t ...- technokitty, on 05/19/2008, -0/+0thanks for sharing this link....simply incredible!
- tobias19, on 05/19/2008, -3/+29Obama + The Decemberists + 74,999 other Portlanders made for one hell of an afternoon.
- invisiblelemur, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5***** yeah decemberists. see this is why i need to move to the west coast...
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -38/+475,000 is good. But he's going to need 75,000,000+ to win in November.
I look at things like this and it seems optimistic, but when you look at things like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Elec ...
-and-
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Elec ...
You start to realize his chances of winning in November aren't really that good, and that's assuming he can still win triumphantly in the landmark states he needs to win that have actually gone to Clinton.
And he's going to need Florida to win...- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -1/+13Oh my god! You're right! He'll never win California!
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -5/+0I'm talking about Florida and Michigan. Without those, it's going to be be pretty damn hard for him to win.
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Oh my god! Why did Hillary, Obama, and Edwards sign that DNC agreement!? They ruin everything...
/sarc
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Oh my god! Why did Hillary, Obama, and Edwards sign that DNC agreement!? They ruin everything...
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -5/+0I'm talking about Florida and Michigan. Without those, it's going to be be pretty damn hard for him to win.
- allengeer, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Or, maybe, you could look at things like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum ...
or even
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum ...
and the further back you go, the more you see it change.
amazing.- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -4/+2That be great if things were moving backward...
This country is now a made up of a majority of old people, and that aging population is becoming more and more conservative. - allengeer, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3isn't it weird how that same "old people" generation that is so much the majority (I assume you are talking about baby boomers) was still the majority of voters in the 1992 and 1996 electorate?
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -4/+2That be great if things were moving backward...
- rheaume, on 05/19/2008, -3/+2A map of intelligence, nice link
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1Pretty much.
- taradisiac, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2The red part is dragging us back.
- royroycroft1, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1It looks like all of the red states gained delegates while the blue states lost them from Gore to Kerry. Does anyone know why this is?
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Population increase and redrawing of district lines.
- technokitty, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Maybe you should hook into reality and check this site out. You will see he is poised for a landslide against Mc Cain. Remeber, McCain is just starting to talk, and it appears the more he says the more he is losing Independents. This site is a great overall convention site and it has ever permeation Clinton has ever come up with, showing the math, and that none of them work, even with Michigan and Florida counting as is......it also shows all scenarios for Mccain. Not a very rosy picture for the Republicans.
As for the California thing, I am in California, worked on the campaign and not much was made of a historical fact that occurred here on Feb 5th...Obama only lost the state by 9% point! No candidate has ever gotten more than 20% of the vote except the frontrunner. Clinton only won by 9% point and he didn't campaign much here either. I never saw him speak even. And currently Obama leads Republicans and Clinton here by doubble digits...so I do not buy that California will not go Obama in the Fall. Of course it will, and in a huge way. Current polling shows 17-23% over McCain depending on the poll.
Some perspective; when I first started working on the campaign in April 2006, no one here knew who he was. The conventional wisdom at the time and even up through Feb was that no one has ever gotten more than 25% of the vote and that would be incredible with a grassroots campaign in such a diverse and large state...well Obama got 45% of the vote. We worked hard for ever vote. Never has ever happened before, but no one covered that in the media now did they!!??
Here is this link to see all the various calculations and ways to calculate the state of the Dem race right now.....interesting stuff. http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/superdeleg ...
Just some food for thought!
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -1/+13Oh my god! You're right! He'll never win California!
- pennvneff, on 05/19/2008, -4/+12I was watching the rally from the balcony of my condo today, pretty awesome sight to see. I've never seen Waterfront Park filled with so many people, not even during Rose Festival or the Beer Festival does it get that packed.
- nydwarf, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1You guys have a Beer Festival? I'd vote for that!
- pennvneff, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1We got all kinds of festivals up here during the summer. Rose, Beer, Jazz, Blues, BBQ, etc..
The micro-brew movement really had it's roots here in Portland and the beer festival is one of the reasons why or maybe it's just a nice byproduct of our preference for locally produced things.
Links:
http://www.oregonbrewfest.com/
and the organic beer festival
http://www.naobf.org/
- pennvneff, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1We got all kinds of festivals up here during the summer. Rose, Beer, Jazz, Blues, BBQ, etc..
- nydwarf, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1You guys have a Beer Festival? I'd vote for that!
- wildone71, on 05/19/2008, -23/+5Anyone who lives in Oregon (I am one) knows that people in Portland are as crazy as people in San Francisco. Don't let 'em fool you.
- ralphthemagi, on 05/19/2008, -5/+4Remember to thank San Francisco for letting you post that comment.
- nblsavage, on 05/19/2008, -3/+8crazy meaning "contains people that don't agree with you".
- lisaawesome, on 05/19/2008, -7/+26Oh Oregon you always make me proud to be a beaver. I swear I'm going to be back one day!
- rrbest, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4Beavers, Ducks, and dare I say... Vikings?
- pennvneff, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3lisa you really are awesome
- lisaawesome, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2I know I'm awesome but thanks for recognizing it.
- PosedMagnet, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2LOL
ALMOST spit my coffee out. Almost.
Good stuff.- jbennett1128, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2Can I see your beaver?
- realdeal1115, on 09/01/2008, -23/+7OMG... we're *****.
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -1/+12Yes, you are.
Me on the other hand, good days ahead... - SoulDrift404, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2People interested and participating in democracy...yeah, that does suck.
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -1/+12Yes, you are.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/19/2008, -30/+7BREAKING NEWS!!!
Obama took a leak while in Portland. Obamacans anxiously await him taking a crap...- oscenester, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Breaking News!!!
Your an idiot.
Stay tuned for more updates.- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1When you're going to call someone else an idiot, you really shouldn't make any errors.
Hopefully, the update will be that you've learned the difference between "your" and "you're"...- oscenester, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1lol. Damn it,that is twice now I've been caught messing up. haha
You're still an idiot though. =P
Nothing personal.
- oscenester, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1lol. Damn it,that is twice now I've been caught messing up. haha
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1When you're going to call someone else an idiot, you really shouldn't make any errors.
- oscenester, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Breaking News!!!
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 05/19/2008, -13/+5What's with all the random comments? Half the posters here have no avatar and are making really generic, bland comments.
- woofers07, on 05/19/2008, -5/+40Whenever Oregon makes it on Digg for something it always seems to be on the positive side, thanks for making me a proud Oregonian, I love it here, but sorry, that's not an invitation for everyone else
- rusty123jimi, on 05/19/2008, -2/+15Another proud Oregonian speaks with you too man!!! Today was really inspiring! =)
- taradisiac, on 05/19/2008, -8/+2"that's not an invitation for everyone else"
Yeah well f you - mrASSMAN, on 05/19/2008, -1/+11Same in Seattle.. we love it here but we'd like you to keep thinking that it's too rainy and miserable.
- MadOtaku, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5I'm an Oregonian and have noticed a strong superiority complex here (I have it too) and it's usually coupled with a desire to keep outsiders away. I differ from many of my fellow Oregonians on that point; while I don't want a rapid influx of outsiders to destroy the wonderful and unique culture of the Pacific Northwest (I love you too, Washington), I would love to share it with others and get some new blood here as well.
We're an interesting and unusual bunch, with a very laid back and friendly culture, and I think that the sort of people who would want to live among us, are the sort that would fit right in. - woofers07, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4*edit:
I might have been a bit harsh, what I should have said is "Please come visit, just don't stay."- taradisiac, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2You still come off as an *****.
- Sioen, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Actually Mad, what we are currently getting is a rapid influx of outsiders mostly destroying our wonderful culture.
Portland proper is holding its own, mostly because so many folks can't afford to buy a house in town, but the surrounding areas are bursting with new growth and are finding they can't sustain all the new schools, emergency services, water use, roads, etc.
It's not a desire to keep outsiders away, it's a desire not to live in a California-like strip mall of overblown development.
More housing, more people and more buildings means less farms, parks, forests and beauty. There isn't any "spare space" to build in, so something loses out.
- jinnie, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8i am incredibly grateful to be living in portland, but every time someone draws a penis or writes "***** you" in the dust on my car (sometimes the freezing fog, which is kinda cool) because i have california plates, there's a little pang in my heart because of that kind of fratboy hate.
california is a great state. californians are very friendly and laid back, much like oregonians and washingtonians. isn't it enough that we, together, comprise three of the best states this side of the mississippi? we could secede and make one helluva country. british columbia, too!
sorry, jsut riffing.- mrASSMAN, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Yeah, I think we could do without all the states in the middle.. and in the southeast. and west virginia.
- MadOtaku, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7I've always thought that if British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, and California all seceded, we'd probably have one of the most livable countries on Earth. A huge range of weather, several large cities, low population density (leaving room to expand), a wide range of industries (including agriculture, manufacturing, tech, and others), and some of the best political policies around (euthanasia, health care, and many more good things).
For those who wonder, it would have a population of 50,761,345 spread over 1,278,239 square miles. Now all we need is a name.- pandorazboxx, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2West America?
- cjshamrock, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Weed America would be nice.
- Sioen, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1It's been planned for decades and has a name: Cascadia
- SoulDrift404, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Austinites say the same thing.
- HamSandwich, on 05/19/2008, -4/+26That is incredible! The fact that ANY candidate can draw a crowd that big is heartwarming. It's awesome to see that many people actively involved in the political process.
- Atratyys, on 05/19/2008, -3/+15I was there today, it was fun, never seen the waterfront that jammed packed with people.
- Moosejoose, on 05/19/2008, -3/+17I love obama, but since I work in a cafe on the waterfront this rally totally ruined my day.
- starlite, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Which one do you work at? I was trying my best not to drive anywhere near the waterfront today. Hopefully you made some good money!
- SicKiller, on 05/19/2008, -9/+17I love OBAMA! I'm WHITE and I love OBAMA.
I wear this shirt proudly - http://www.tshirtinferno.com/node/69- Pillage, on 05/19/2008, -2/+7you're so progressive, I mean, voting for a black guy, and you're white. Truly inspiring.
- green1152, on 05/19/2008, -3/+39haha!! Wow. I live in Salem, Or. About a 45 minute drive from Portland. We had Bill Clinton come today for Hillary. The turnout was about... 300 or less. The chant the lady was doing trying to get the audience excited died out very quickly. "Hillary.. Hillary.....hillary.."
"Okay, great. Have a nice day." and she walked off the stage in frustration. HA!- MadOtaku, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7I live in Salem too, but keep in mind that our metro area is around 350,000 people and the Portland metro area is round 2,000,000 people.
Obama drew 3.75% of the Portland area, and Clinton drew around 0.0857%
_________
After calculating the above numbers, I changed my mind and didn't finish my comment. Even adjusting for population, it's an amazing difference. I can't believe he drew almost 4% of one of the largest metro areas in the U.S..- thedragon4453, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Hah, from Albany (20 miles south of Salem), and Bill came here about 2 weeks ago. Didn't get a crowd over 1000. When Obama came, the fair/expo center was at capacity with over 5000 attendees.
- MadOtaku, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7I live in Salem too, but keep in mind that our metro area is around 350,000 people and the Portland metro area is round 2,000,000 people.
- chrgrose, on 05/19/2008, -7/+8I, for one, welcome our new Obamafan overlords.
- cakemix76, on 05/19/2008, -2/+3175,000 and not one hard working white American among them. I kid, I kid.
- imnojezus, on 05/19/2008, -7/+5I was there, I am white, and I work my ass off.
- jbennett1128, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Yeah, but you're no jesus
- imnojezus, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2It's true. If I was, I'd have picked a spot on the water. :)
- technokitty, on 05/19/2008, -0/+0Yes, so much for that arguement....look at the pictures: young, old, white, black, hispanic.....it is all there en masse. Funny how race didn't play a part in these white folks decisions. Maybe there is something to the idea places like PA, WV, OH are just still racially divided, unlike the majority of states. I think if I lived in one of those states and saw that we voted more racist than any of the southern states....even Alabama, I would move. That is such a sad statement, more race=ist than the south!!
- pingveno, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Side note: Oregon is one of the whiter states in the US. To be exact, according to the U.S. Census Bureau from 2006
Non-Hispanic White: 81.0%
Hispanic/Latino: 10.2%
Black: 1.9%
Asian: 3.6%
- 1randomguyO8, on 05/19/2008, -5/+17I really can't see Obama NOT becoming the next president of the US, unless something ground breaking happens.
- lhbaker, on 05/19/2008, -1/+13It's scary to even consider him not getting elected.
- elamr, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6Yeah. Crazy thing is that I used to be a McCain fan. But now he has aligned himself with Bush and keeps ***** Flip-flopping... its AMAZING that his mistakes haven't really hit MSM, ***** amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c - cjshamrock, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3McCain is too old, confused and inconsistent - a puppet. You can't even hate him. If Obama team makes the right moves in the GE, McCain will fall.
- elamr, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6Yeah. Crazy thing is that I used to be a McCain fan. But now he has aligned himself with Bush and keeps ***** Flip-flopping... its AMAZING that his mistakes haven't really hit MSM, ***** amazing!
- DeFex, on 05/19/2008, -6/+1Look what happened in ontario, canada. we had a guy who promised all kinds of stuff he sounded great. turned out to be the biggest liar weasel you can imagine.
Lets hope obamas not like that for you.- MarkusDee, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Mike Harris, Jim Flarity, John Baird et al. What a bunch of a-holes.
- tharju, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3apparently you have no idea about who Obama is.
- verevi, on 05/19/2008, -7/+6All McCain has to do is refer to Obama by his middle name and half of the people in this country will not vote for Obama. (The dumb half). :(
- smashv2, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Unfortunately you're probably correct. I bet the racists will come out in full force in the general election to try and derail the Obamarama.
- cjshamrock, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2You seem to underestimate the intelligence of American voters. You have good reasons.
But I really hope you're wrong.
- digitul, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5you got dug down but you're right. theres a lot of idiots that stil think he's Muslim. there are a lot of people just looking for a reason to not vote for him. it wont be easy
- jozb, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1I'm certain that McCain and the republicans have something up their sleeve. If Obama gets elected, it will surely be a miracle.
- lhbaker, on 05/19/2008, -1/+13It's scary to even consider him not getting elected.
- tacotruck08, on 05/19/2008, -17/+7RON PAUL
- lhbaker, on 05/19/2008, -2/+14Where's Waldo?
- Qtip42, on 05/19/2008, -13/+5It's amusing at best to see Obama winning because I hate the other two big candidates but you guys can't seem to look past the word change. I can't wait till obama is elected and the change that happens isn't quite what everyone had in mind. I'm just hoping his idea of getting out of iraq isn't keeping thousands there to continue the occupation.
- bigsteve, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3It sounds like -you- can't look past that word. All you people have had to say is more and more BS about how that word "isn't what everyone had in mind" or "won't be what you expect." I know what he's doing. I've educated myself, and by this point, most everyone of his supporters have too. His economic plan, his plan for foreign policy, it makes sense to me, and he has my vote. Not because he keeps using a phrase in his speeches.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -4/+25This is fantastic! The only unfortunate thing is that Oregon has a closed primary. Independents won't be able to vote in the primary and there are tons of them in Oregon. Obama will definitely win the Oregon Democratic primary, but he would win even bigger if Independents could vote right now.
No problem though - They'll still be able to cast their vote in the General Election this November and help Obama become the next President of the United States of America.
Thanks to all of you fine people of Oregon!- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8Sheila:
We had a HUGE statewide voter registration and re-registration drive last month. Hundreds of volunteers mobilized across the state and I can personally account for five re-registers, from Independent, Green and Republican parties. So the only Independents that aren't voting for him are ones who refused to re-register.
Closed primary...yes, it is what it is. And frankly, I'm not sure if an open primary would be a good idea anyway, given what happened in Ohio. And there is absolutely nothing from keeping Independent Obamans from volunteering and contributing to the campaign. And they do. If they don't re-register, that's okay, they can help elect him anyway.
The truth will be revealed in 48 hours! :)- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8Gemfinder - Thanks. I know a few of those Independent voters in Oregon who didn't want to re-register, or who put it off until it was too late. However, like you said, they are still out rooting for Obama and doing what they can to help his campaign (including one "sane Christian" friend who is busy going onto rightwing Christian blogs and politely debunking the myths and lies being passed around about Obama and providing them with verifiable facts to replace their rumors).
I live in Los Angeles, but I'll be travelling around in Northern, Central, and Coastal Oregon for 2 weeks in June to enjoy some of your local scenery. I always love it there. It's truly one of the most beautiful states in America and you must be proud to live there.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8Gemfinder - Thanks. I know a few of those Independent voters in Oregon who didn't want to re-register, or who put it off until it was too late. However, like you said, they are still out rooting for Obama and doing what they can to help his campaign (including one "sane Christian" friend who is busy going onto rightwing Christian blogs and politely debunking the myths and lies being passed around about Obama and providing them with verifiable facts to replace their rumors).
- RAEP, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5If it weren't for the closed primary though, we'd have republicans voting for Hillary and whatnot. There are negatives to each type of vote (as we've already witnessed). The modified closed primary as offered by California seems to be working better than either of the alternatives though, hopefully it will catch on.
- docCdav, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2I have to admit I'm a little embarrassed to be registered an independent in Oregon. My vote would have been one more for Obama, and damn if I'd liked to contribute.
- Gemfinder, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1You can help with the campaign. Find your local Obama office, walk in and say, "How can I help?" And anyone can donate, even if it's a couple dollars.
If everyone who went to that rally in Portland yesterday threw $1 at the campaign, the expenses for all the Oregon state Obama For America offices would be paid for the month.
- Gemfinder, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1You can help with the campaign. Find your local Obama office, walk in and say, "How can I help?" And anyone can donate, even if it's a couple dollars.
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8Sheila:
- Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -5/+3275,000 people = 1 in 20 Oregonians...and Portland is close enough to Seattle for a few of them to come down, too.
Oh, and 75,000 people = half the Oregonian voting populace. Good job, folks.
The rest of us were having your back, getting out the vote, feeding the staff at our various HQ offices around the state, and celebrating from the sidelines. Even if we weren't there with you in body, we were there in spirit. Thanks for giving our candidate the BIGGEST crowd he's had yet! We doubled up Philadelphia's, with interest!
Can there be any doubt that Oregon is Obama Country?
P.S., I'll never complain about the haters here on Digg again. The piss 'n ***** being flung by half of the comments on the WaPo article makes them look like kittens lazing in the balmy spring sun.- MadOtaku, on 05/19/2008, -0/+375,000/3,421,399* = 0.02192 = 2.192% = 1 in 50. A huge chunk still, but not 1 in 20.
*Oregon wikipedia article
- MadOtaku, on 05/19/2008, -0/+375,000/3,421,399* = 0.02192 = 2.192% = 1 in 50. A huge chunk still, but not 1 in 20.
- shiftclick, on 05/19/2008, -24/+875,000 suckers. Seriously, this is guy is going to heal all the world's ailments with the word "HOPE"?
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/19/2008, -5/+15Sucks to be living your world view.
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -2/+13No.
75,000+ people are going to work their ass off to get things back on track. You're clearly missing the entire point of this. Civic duty is being reborn.- ramsrule94, on 05/19/2008, -6/+1You can take your civic duty and your high taxes that go along with it and shove them up your ass. I wish all the liberals, lesbians, gays would move to california and live out there fantasy lives away from the rest of us that live in the real world. You know the one where the majority of us pay for our own healthcare and our own daycare and our own everything else that we don't want to have to pay for everyone in this country.
- acroyear2, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3That's fine with us. We'll send you to Iraq since your party seems to love it so much there.
- ramsrule94, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1I haven't been there myself but I have plenty of friends that have. And unlike most of the leftwing media the friends that I know have said that things are starting to work in Iraq. But I know all you socialist leftwing granola eating wackjobs would rather listen to the opinion of the media then the opinion of troops in the field.
- ramsrule94, on 05/19/2008, -6/+1You can take your civic duty and your high taxes that go along with it and shove them up your ass. I wish all the liberals, lesbians, gays would move to california and live out there fantasy lives away from the rest of us that live in the real world. You know the one where the majority of us pay for our own healthcare and our own daycare and our own everything else that we don't want to have to pay for everyone in this country.
- ADigbySellers, on 05/19/2008, -13/+2Easy now. He has "CHANGE", "TOGETHER", "YES WE CAN" and several other catchy phrases. You have to have these clever words if you are going to fix the world by talking.
Next up: "I believe that TOGETHER we can CHANGE things if we are allowed to HOPE. YES WE CAN!" etc. etc. etc. yawn...etc. etc. - Qtip42, on 05/19/2008, -9/+3You'd be surprised how many blue collar workers there are in this world. They want to be cradled by the government from the time their born till the time they're deceased. It's sad but that's what the large majority wants and that's why America is the butt of all jokes.
- SoulDrift404, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5Yeah, it's much better to go with the candidate who has no hope. McSame '08!
- ramsrule94, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1I'll take mcsame over obama hussein 08
- taylorr05, on 05/19/2008, -3/+20PDX FTW! I'm in there somewhere!
- rrbest, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5I found you!
- Scheissen, on 05/19/2008, -23/+6***** OFF OBAMASPAMMERS
- moonlessrat, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3STOP SHOUTING retard, and if you don't like it then don't read it ***** for brains.
- TheTruthHurts, on 05/19/2008, -2/+8a nice top-off for the weekend :-)
- archer75, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5I live in Portland and didn't hear about this. Weird. Anyways, I hope he wins.
- Nubli, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5I don't know which story to digg, this one or http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Largest_Obama_Ra ...
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