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- BishkekBuddy, on 10/13/2008, -4/+110FTA:
Obama sources shared internal campaign polling figures that show a sharp fall in positive feelings for the Republican ticket. Following the most recent spat of negative ads, they say, McCain's unfavorable rating has gone over 50 percent, notably higher than anything detected in recent public polling.
Gov. Sarah Palin is fairing just as poorly if not worse. In New Hampshire, an official with knowledge of internal polling says the Alaska Republican's favorable rating has nosedived to 36 percent, with 56 percent viewing her unfavorably.
This buoys my spirits immeasurably! :-) - inactive, on 12/08/2008, -2/+104That's 36% more than Palin deserves.
- joand315, on 10/13/2008, -3/+71Good news!
FTA:
There will, however, be one new ripple. On Monday, Obama's communication's shop is expected to go on the offense on issues of voter protection after a week in which Republicans cried foul about registration efforts in various states and painted the community organizing organization ACORN as a criminal enterprise.
Obama aides will attack Republicans for what they view as efforts to disenfranchise voters in several states, and announce a voter protection campaign involving hundreds of volunteer lawyers around the country. - peace1970, on 10/13/2008, -3/+64Great news and Obama is rising above all the scum being tossed his way by the republicans!
Obama/Biden!! - Sogladtobehere, on 10/13/2008, -2/+58I love the voter protection idea. I refuse to give money to candidates, but I am dismayed by the dirty voter suppression tactics employed by the GOP. A voter protection program is something I can get behind and support. I encourage all Americans to find $20-100 dollars to donate to to voter protection when Obama's team has it running.
- nuorigin, on 10/13/2008, -3/+46The Rethugs are crying foul over ACORN, but the their leader says that by law, they must turn in all voter cards, and they are being criticized for the ones that even they are flagging as suspect.
- gail40, on 10/13/2008, -3/+45Thank goodness! I saw Ms. Lewis , the head of ACORN interviewed on CSPAN by the guy from politico and another from the Hill. She was direct and she corrected all the lies that the Repugs are putting out. She called them lies too and that made me admire her. She also corrected a lot of their bad reporting especially on the idea that they are paid by quota. ACORN employees are paid by the hour.
- PhilLesh69, on 10/13/2008, -1/+37I still have mixed feelings.
I'm a republican, but now I'm starting to believe that there is no hope for the republican party. McCain was a viable candidate in 2000, he actually represented the values and beliefs of the majority. Yet, Bush won by mobilizing the extreme right. Then McCain made a deal with the extremists and neocons in 2006, and he has become exactly the same as Bush's team (I still don't believe Bush represents his own presidency, it is his appointees who have run roughshod over the constitution and our principles.)
All I'm left with is to be be happy to see him fail in the candidacy, so maybe the next republican candidate totally eschews this radical, chicken hawk and hateful strain of radical right wing ideology for a more traditional conservatism. - wonderlandpr, on 10/13/2008, -1/+32The slime thrown out by Palin and McCain have come back to smear their integrity. (not sure SHE ever had any to lose)
Never in the 30 years I have been in politics have I witnessed anything the likes of the mob like
hatred spewed by Palin AND McCain.
The only reason it has ceased a bit...is the downturn in the polls and the uptick in their negatives. IF the tactics of hate had worked, they'd still be at it. Now they are just bleeding it through their surrogates and ads.
THESE TIMES ARE TOO SERIOUS TO TURN OUR COUNTRY OVER TO 2 GOP CANDIDATES, BOTH CHARGED WITH ETHIC VIOLATIONS. PALIN IN ALASKA. MCCAIN
BROUGHT BEFORE THE ETHICS COMMITTEE IN WASHINGTON FOR HIS PART IN THE SAVINGS AND LOAN SCANDAL IN THE 80'S.
I guess these 2 have enough slime around them to throw. Little to none of it is sticking on Obama, and the Illinois Senator looks like a paragon of virtue and leadership compared to McCain and Palin. (and you know NO ONE IS GOING TO SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT IF Palin is a heartbeat away from the Oval Office) Even die hard fans of hers know, she would be a national catastrophe from which this Nation would not recover. You know it in your heart. - magus_melchior, on 10/13/2008, -0/+283 weeks can be like 3 years in politics. Keep up the voter registration and donations until November 5!
- redcolumbine, on 10/13/2008, -1/+29Go lawyers! This is great news.
- SlashNot, on 10/13/2008, -1/+25I am glad Obama is still rising above. I am appalled at the insanely disgusting rhetoric and accusations being throw at Barack and Pray that he wins this important election.
- BossKey, on 10/13/2008, -1/+22Steady as she goes, Obama...take us out of here.
Now and for eight more years.
(Obama will not solve all our problems, no candidate could. But we just need the best-principled man we can find at the helm, who won't waver, cave, or waffle...that's all we can realistically wish for.) - DD2CC2U, on 10/13/2008, -2/+23Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis
Commentators say that's what triggered the stock market meltdown and the freeze on credit. They've specifically targeted the mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which the federal government seized on Sept. 6, contending that lending to poor and minority Americans caused Fannie's and Freddie's financial problems.
Federal housing data reveal that the charges aren't true, and that the private sector, not the government or government-backed companies, was behind the soaring subprime lending at the core of the crisis.
Subprime lending offered high-cost loans to the weakest borrowers during the housing boom that lasted from 2001 to 2007. Subprime lending was at its height vrom 2004 to 2006.
Federal Reserve Board data show that:
_ More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.
_ Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.
_ Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that's being lambasted by conservative critics.
The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007," the President's Working Group on Financial Markets reported Friday.
Conservative critics claim that the Clinton administration pushed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make home ownership more available to riskier borrowers with little concern for their ability to pay the mortgages.
"I don't remember a clarion call that said Fannie and Freddie are a disaster. Loaning to minorities and risky folks is a disaster," said Neil Cavuto of Fox News.
Fannie, the Federal National Mortgage Association, and Freddie, the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corp., don't lend money, to minorities or anyone else, however. They purchase loans from the private lenders who actually underwrite the loans.
It's a process called securitization, and by passing on the loans, banks have more capital on hand so they can lend even more.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53802.html
The GOP is lying to you once again. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae did not cause this financial meltdown. - AugustusOsari, on 10/13/2008, -1/+22I'm grateful to you for being so reliable. I don't even have to read your comments before I bury them.
- magus_melchior, on 10/13/2008, -0/+20@poprocksandsoda: How do you think reasonable people react to rejection of reality? A celebration complete with champagne and cake?
"Yay! You deny all the stuff that's being spoken against McCain in the press! Have some more pie!" - PhilLesh69, on 10/13/2008, -1/+21On Friday night's Real Time With Bill Maher, some Rupert Murdoch Employee from the Wall Street Journal made a weak attempt to make that acorn issue into a big deal, but he came across as a poorly informed ideologue who could only stutter, stammer and laugh,
I almost felt sorry for the guy, if I wasn't angry that someone who is actually a "journalist" could be so easily deluded and would continually recite the shallow and empty party talking points without giving any mental energy to the process in order to have his own opinion.
He often would laugh about some point that disagreed with his tenuous ideological beliefs, and then when asked to explain it, he froze up.
Bill Maher asked him what ACORN stood for, and he couldn't come up with the full name of that acronym, and Maxine Walters said "Maybe you shouldn't talk about things you don't know anything about." - ISurfTooMuch, on 10/13/2008, -0/+19The problem is that many politicians in the GOP are scared ***** of those right-wing extremists. These people have made it known that they want one of their own as the party nominee in any general election, and if the nominee doesn't represent their values, they would rather not vote and see him or her defeated. This has led to a belief by many that they have to cowtow to these nutjobs in order to win. The only cure for that, I think, is for more moderate Republicans to let these idiots have control of the party for a while so they can burn it to the ground; then the moderates might be able to come back, clean up the mess, and rebuild.
And if you want a reason, as a moderate Republican, to vote for Obama, maybe I can give it to you. The bigots out there are so enraged at least partly because they don't want a black man to become president. Granted, I'm an Obama supporter, but I think the man has the ability to be a very good and possibly a great president. And even if you don't support him, you have to admit that he's a bright enough guy who will at least be a decent leader. Anyway, if he gets elected, not only will it be a milestone because he would be the first black man elected president, but it will also deflate some of this racist hostility by showing that he can do the job. The hard core bigots will still be there, but those that just aren't sure about him might have their eyes opened a bit, so the next time a non-white man or a woman runs for high office, it won't be such a big deal. It's the same thing that happened when Jackie Robinson started playing baseball or when Bill Cosby began his run on The Cosby Show. I wasn't born long enough ago to see the former, but I remember the big deal about The Cosby Show. Who would have thought that there was such a thing as a middle-to-upper-class black family, and who had ever seen a TV show portraying them? Now, it seems like no big deal. And back to athletics, when Sylvester Croom was hired as the first black football coach in the SEC, it got the attention of everyone down here, not just people in Mississippi. It raised eyebrows but in a good way. People knew he was a good coach and a decent and honorable man, so there were no complaints I heard of, but it still served to push those racial barriers back just a little more. Now, no one even mentions the fact that he's a black man. He's Mississippi State's coach, and that's all. He just happens to be black. This, IMHO, is more of what we need in this country. - fuzzmeister, on 10/13/2008, -1/+19http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama ...
- digimer, on 10/13/2008, -0/+16lolwut?
- belebih, on 10/13/2008, -1/+17♫ Sorry, Sarah, it's human nature. ♫ Nothing I can do! It's... Schadenfreude! ♫ Making me feel glad that I'm not you. ♫
- magus_melchior, on 10/13/2008, -0/+15@jaycalgary: If that's the opener to a joke, you probably should finish it before hitting "Save Reply".
- digimer, on 10/13/2008, -0/+14...and where are these poll numbers coming from?
- magus_melchior, on 10/13/2008, -1/+15They're trying to intimidate ACORN into suppressing Democrat votes, I think.
- shalom, on 10/13/2008, -1/+14Word up!
- ASSASSYN360, on 10/13/2008, -3/+15Obama/Biden FTW!
- Depthfunction, on 10/13/2008, -2/+13FTA: On Sunday, the Weekly Standard's William Kristol called the negative tactics "stupid."
"The main thing to say about these negative ads -- which, I don't think, almost none of them has been across the line -- they haven't worked," he said on Fox News Sunday. "Obama's favorable rating is as high as it's been in three months. It's actually gone up in the last month. So it's a stupid campaign."
What the hell? Kristol was one of the people calling for MkKKain to run a negative campaign a couple of weeks ago! Now he calls it stupid? But I guess that's not so surprising.
Here's a simple rule of thumb for Bill Kristol: He's ALWAYS wrong. I find it useful to take my policy cues from him -- inversely, of course. If Kristol is against something, then I know that it's a good idea. If he's for it, then I know it's a bad idea.
Too bad the MkKKain campaign hasn't learned that. - GorfTron, on 10/13/2008, -0/+11The GOP brand is broken and they need to go to the corner to think about who they really are. Bush has gone to a dark place politically and McCain's latest campaign tactics are disgraceful. This is the collapse of the GOP as we know it.
- PhilLesh69, on 10/13/2008, -0/+11We've heard that already.
Besides, haven't you heard? The new "argument" is that you need to get your cut from the advertisements on Huffpo for all the hits Digg is giving them. Get with the program.
I always shoot the messenger when I can't deal with the message. You and I might get along. - FreddieD, on 10/13/2008, -0/+10I am an Obama supporter, I have donated to his campaign, and I have am not surprised to hear that all of this hatemongering from McCain's mob is causing his disapproval rating to rise.
But, whenever I hear about an internal poll by anybody, I tend to get incredibly skeptical. - richirwin, on 10/13/2008, -0/+10One more thing to consider. As bad a candidate as John McCain is and as ineffective as his campaign has been, consider the following...
In 2004, Karl Rove talked about a "permanent republican majority."
In 2006, Democrats took control of the Senate and the House. No Democrat incumbent lost.
In 2008, Democrats stand on the verge of recapturing the White House, getting up to 59 members in the Senate, and getting up to 247 members of the House. No Democrat incumbent is currently losing.
The republican brand is on the verge of total collapse.
This isn't John McCain's fault - this is George W. Bush's fault.
The fact that John McCain, over the last 8 years, has side with Bush so much has been McCain's downfall. But the collapse of the republican party is the bigger story here.
Nov. 4 is going to be a long night for republicans. I'll be watching Fox News, for sure. - 0xABADC0DA, on 10/13/2008, -1/+11Donate if you can. Donate even if they do have 'enough' money already, because we need a huge landslide. There WILL be vote fraud and an attempt to steal by hacking the election using electronic voting machines (it's trivial for a single computer programmer to hack them, and it's human nature to do so), and this election has to be so clear-cut that it's impossible to get away with that again.
I say we nuke them from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure. - inactive, on 10/13/2008, -0/+10Come now, Bush dreams of the days he had those numbers!
- PhilLesh69, on 10/13/2008, -0/+10ISurfTooMuch, I have only two words for you:
Jimmy Carter.
The people who own this country, the people who have all the money, will undermine anyone they don't approve of. No president can operate without their approval.
I'm a republican, and I cannot vote for anyone in my party who has made yet another deal with the neocons, but I also know that they will spend the next four years destroying Obama if he wins.
The main reason I want Obama to win is because it sends a message to the real republicans that they are supporting a bankrupt cold war mentality of "us vs. them" and empire building dead ends.
I don't believe the people who own this country will give Obama any leeway to make any actual changes, just like they undermined Carter at every step. I view it as a pause and a wake up call to the real conservatives and republicans who aren't religious zealots or extremists, to get their ***** together and get rid of all the morons and haters. - Fordi, on 10/13/2008, -0/+9http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Read 'em. Learn 'em. - madfrogurt, on 10/13/2008, -0/+8Does anyone else find it ironic that the right is so pissed about the "bitter, clinging to guns" quote, when the video specifically warns that Obama is going to take your guns and money? So many hicks would vote against their own morals and well being just to guard against someone touching their precious precious guns. And yes, they are bitter.
- JoeMondo, on 10/13/2008, -0/+8I'm among those who made a first time contribution to the Obama campaign in September.
I supported Hillary in the primary, and I still have issues with Obama. But McCain actually drove me to support Obama, with his ever shifting positions and his choice of Sarah Palin. - BobbyMC, on 10/13/2008, -0/+8I don't like that you are comparing Obama's lack of connection to ACORN with McCain's party trying to steal the right to vote from as many democrats as possible. That said, you have to be dug up because you're making a coherent and valid point that too many of my fellow Obama supporters are willing to ignore. ACORN cannot be apologized for as even in a world where they checked every name and corrected it after the fact, behaving that recklessly and demeaning the value of registration in public places is WAY out of line.
Beyond even that, if you apologize for ACORN you yourself are indirectly insinuating that they have something to do with Obama, which they don't. They are a group that acted ignorantly and fortunately for EVERY American it was noticed before election day. - fiatjustitia, on 10/13/2008, -0/+8the only people giving Obama the image of a "Messiah" are those on the right.
btw, the video fails hard, everyone give it a one star rating. - SkinnerBox, on 10/13/2008, -0/+7Preemptive Strike! Obama has all the moves. Every time I'm worried that the GOP will play their old games, he has exactly the right strategy to counter them. Game Over.
- Soughtout, on 10/13/2008, -1/+8They're trying to intimidate them into ending their voter registration efforts, period. And they want to discredit their efforts in order to justify possible litigation tactics after Novemebr 4.
- richirwin, on 10/13/2008, -0/+7"The main thing to say about these negative ads -- which, I don't think, almost none of them has been across the line -- they haven't worked," he [William Kristol] said on Fox News Sunday. "Obama's favorable rating is as high as it's been in three months. It's actually gone up in the last month. So it's a stupid campaign."
Maybe the McCain campaign should go back to those ads that were really effective like attacking Obama for eating arugula, eating chocolate protein bars, drinking Honest Tea, being a celebrity like Paris Hilton/Britney Spears.
You know, the real issues of the day. - abajaj2280, on 10/13/2008, -1/+8it seems more like one of those Christian CDs you can order for 3 payments of $19.99
- inactive, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6Is that the best you can do, *****? Seriously, you need to change your member name to *****.
- cheezintern, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6you have to call in the next 4 minutes and 59 seconds to yours!
- dime, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6Really though, what did McCain's camp think would happen with the ads?
It's pretty obvious that these days America is so polarized that about 48% of the people that vote are going to vote their "team" regardless of the candidate or the issues. These people could run a campaign without either of them ever leaving the house and still get the votes of the base. This leaves the candidates fighting for that moderate indecisive 4% to put them over the top. If you're part of that 4% and are trying to objectively evaluate the choices, are you going to respond to thought out appeals to logic or same-ole-same-ole mudslinging? - inactive, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6Not C-SPAN! Not that ultra-leftist-commie-pinko-socialist-kill-your-babies-and-take-away-your-guns-while-having-gay-sex-with-your-dog network! Oh nooooooooooo...
Debauchery, thy name is C-Span. - inactive, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6Poor reptards.
- ashwinmudigonda, on 10/13/2008, -1/+7Move over, Chess. We have a cooler strategy game.
- Fordi, on 10/13/2008, -0/+5Ugh. Glenn Beck needs to give up while he's still got a shred of credibility.
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