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- tcbishop12, on 08/25/2008, -12/+51No wonder McCain thinks you're only rich at five million. Look at the billionaire company he keeps. Billionaires can saturate the media market with lies. A lesson in "how to buy the presidency" so you don't have to pay your fair share of taxes.
OK. We're all supposed to believe Ayers is still the bomb-throwing radical he was in the 1960s, rather than the respected member of the Chicago community he is today. We're also supposed to believe the Woods Fund, where Ayers and Obama both served as board members, exists to provide funds to "radicals to spread their particular brand of poison."
According to The Nation, the Woods Fund awards "hundreds of small grants a year, usually no more than $50,000, to activists, neighborhood groups, think tanks and arts and culture projects in Chicago's most-forgotten and blighted communities. It has funded ex-offenders to lobby for the elimination of mandatory minimum sentences and unfair drug laws, organized senior citizens to lobby for affordable housing, [and] pushed parents to get more involved in their children's crumbling schools."
Does that sound "radical" to you? Progressive, perhaps. But Weather Underground-style 1960s radicalism? I think not.
Boo-hiss, John McCain, you senile lying old fart. - alapoet, on 08/25/2008, -5/+29There's a silver lining to this particular cloud: It may be a good sign that McCain is this desperate, this early in the campaign.
- xaoiv, on 08/26/2008, -5/+17Bill Ayers is a college professor, a philanthropist, and a productive member of society who had a radical past in the 1960s (though he was never convicted of anything). Unfortunately, the Obama campaign can't say this because they would be accused of "defending the terrorist."
Obama and Ayers served on the board of directors of an anti-poverty charity together for three years. They were at best acquaintances.
This whole "controversy" is nothing more than a distraction. - jamesalfaro, on 08/26/2008, -0/+12direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mjhVsUosn8
- xaxxon, on 08/26/2008, -1/+10No. And no one is claiming he is.
- davidwasman, on 08/26/2008, -7/+15Nope.
Or did you miss the part where Obama was 8? - xaoiv, on 08/26/2008, -1/+9Bill Ayers never killed anyone and I am certain that he has done more for society than you ever will.
- TheInformer, on 08/26/2008, -4/+12I wonder if David Duke would ever stand a chance to be POTUS. All of that racism and KKKing was in his past, right? None of that would be relevant now, would it?
Obama's "response" is nothing of the sort. It addresses none of the points and was only put out to try to divert the people's attention away from the facts - Ayers is a terrorist. Obama has bad judgment, and If McCain had ties to the same type of people that Obama does, Huffingtonpost, Thinkprogress, Dailykos, CNN, MSNBC, Olbermann, and the other leftist propagandists would have a collective spazzfest over and would be airing daily attacks on McCain because of it.
Huffingtonpost spewage. Buried. - inactive, on 08/26/2008, -3/+10Desperate? There have been hundreds if not thousands of ads like this used by presidential candidates in history. Even Obama uses ad's and not all of them are positive. So no this is nothing new or unusual. This is normal. Nothing special to it. No amazing silver lining can be divined from a centuries old tradition of negative ads.
- Echota, on 01/05/2009, -4/+11Tell it tc!
WaHoooooo!!
John MacCain-bought and paid for and living in the past!
And he damn sure don't approve any of these messages!
Obama/Biden 08! - AndrewDB, on 08/26/2008, -2/+9Block of political text hits you for over 9,000 damage!
- xaoiv, on 08/26/2008, -1/+8Obama was on the board of a charity with a college professor who had a radical past.
How exactly does this prevent him from being a good president? - nixfu, on 08/26/2008, -10/+16
THIS IS THE WORST POLITICAL AD I HAVE EVER SEEN....they really should have gotten a second opinion on this one before sending it out.
Its like hitting 'send' on that nasty email you just composed to that idiot in the other department...usually not a good idea to send without at least having a co-worker look it over. - Maynza, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7I'm sorry, I was about to tackle your wall of text when I saw your name was "ISIfunded911" no thanks, I'll just bury you so i don't accidentally read anything you wrote.
- xaxxon, on 08/26/2008, -2/+7there's a pretty simple reason for that..
- blipblipbeep, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5Ive seen this before in the last Australian federal elections, lib's out labor in. They will sort of fight for the people, but you'll be damned if you keep free rights to the internet. This is the new political fashion, its control verses people. Money has its own a-gender.
Updating... BEEP! - infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -2/+7How about when you don't know how many houses you own. Oh wait, that's rich AND dumb.
- CKR600, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5Is it the same guy narrating ads from both sides? Must make a killing pre-producing attack/respond ads and selling both at the same time.
- bjornski, on 08/26/2008, -2/+7Except the McCain camp.
They compare him with Moses. - Mononuclear, on 08/26/2008, -1/+5why would anyone try to deny he is a leftist? Liberals are on the left.. (well in the US anyway. In the rest of the world they are more center)
- stix213, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4"So these are obvious lies, just like John McCain said he’d condemn. But instead of condemning them, he repeated the attacks in his own campaign statements!"
Obvious lies? Please point out a single one? Ayers' memoirs are quite specific, and his current opinion of his terrorist acts have been widely reported even at the time Obama was on the same board as Ayers.
"FACT: Barack Obama was eight years old when the Weathermen terrorist activities were occurring."
So, if Hitler was still alive it would be OK to be best buds with him too, cause Obama wasn't alive yet so there shouldn't be a problem.... right.... How about Charlie Manson?
"FACT: William Ayers was a member of the Weathermen. Since that time he has achieved enough respectability to become a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago."
Except that in 2001 the NY Times quotes Ayers as saying "'I don't regret setting bombs... I feel we didn't do enough.'' While Obama continued his work with Ayers thinking nothing of it. Yeah he has some respect now, but it probably isn't a good idea to be friends with someone who still is proud of his terrorist acts when you are trying to be elected president.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0 ...
"FACT: Ayers served on that board with Obama, along with Republicans, bankers, lawyers, focused on education."
But none of them are running for the highest office on the planet right now... I wouldn't vote for anyone who would be on that board with Ayers, or would allow Ayers to organize political fundraisers/events. so what's your point?
I think you need to work on your logical thinking skills. - Turbosc, on 08/26/2008, -7/+11Jesus Christ people, wake up, McCain is a ***** dinosaur.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -8/+12McCain reminds me of an old, gray, withered up piece of dog *****.
- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -8/+12To McCain supporters.
Do you really think Obama has spent his whole life plotting to be a terrorist? And his master plan was becoming the (almost implausible task of) first black president to carry out some sort of attack?
Do you REALLY think that? Seriously, honestly. Do you? - treefrog001, on 08/26/2008, -3/+6Obama is falling into the trap that Democrats always seem fall into, constantly being on the defensive by having to respond to sleazy Republican attack ads that are long on innuendo and short on substance. Obama's people need to switch gears and put McCain on the defensive for a change. Bombard the airwaves with ads about his temper and his dealings with sleazeballs like Charles Keating. There's plenty of ammunition out there, USE IT!!!
- Barackalypse, on 08/26/2008, -6/+9You think its desperate to question the relationship a Presidential candidate had with a domestic terrorist? I think its desperate to issue a response ad that basically amounts to "Shouldn't we be talking about something else?". Oh sure, there's that bit in there about Obama denouncing Ayers crimes, but wouldn't you think he'd want to explain why he seems to have a lot of encounters with the man anyway? Its a lot like denouncing Rev. Wright after sitting in his church for 20 years, denouncing doesn't mean anything, distancing does.
- Maynza, on 08/26/2008, -3/+6I love so much that the end of the ad rhymes, it pleases me deeply.
- omegared, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4bush Cheney McCain, getting Americans killed in military action since we lied about the reasons for war in 2003.
- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4Ugh, you always post this. Even conservatives denounce that book as crap.
get a hold of your life. - jdelator, on 08/26/2008, -4/+7third huffington post article on the front page at the moment
- mustangmike53, on 08/27/2008, -0/+3How ***** stupid are you "He was only 8." people???
Obama was in his late 30's, not 8 years old, and on the political fast track when he made the decision that it was OK to work with and accept the support of an admitted and unrepentent terrorist. That's bad judgement. (Unless you're of the 'dissent is the highest form of patriotism, and bombing the Pentagon is the highest form of dissent, therefore bombing the Pentagon is the highest form of patriotism' crowd.)
He was in his 40's and halfway to the Democrat nomination for President of the United States of America when he defended his associations with an openly treasonous, violent terrorist by saying he was 'only 8' when Ayers committed his crimes. That's stupidity.
Draw your own conclusion. - tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4Yeah, McCain has gone from a 10 point deficit to being tied during the DNC Convention. Yeah, he's desperate.
Not. - Troika37, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3And now, McCain's up 2 points.
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4He joked about it in the Saddleback Church interviews. He actually said: " I think that rich should be defined by a home, a good job, an education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited.
I don’t want to take any money from the rich — I want everybody to get rich."
And then after the $5 million comment, he said:
" I don't think, seriously that—the point is that I'm trying to make here seriously—and I'm sure that comment will be distorted, but the point is...that we want to keep people's taxes low and increase revenues.
...So it doesn't matter really what my definition of "rich" is because I don't want to raise anybody's taxes. I really don't. In fact, I want to give working Americans a better shot at having a better life. And we all know the challenges, my friends." - Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Sources for my comments
McCain for Fisa (With telecom immunity/ no watchdog jury*)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/25/mc ...
McCain against net neutrality (new bigger government branch controling the imformation you receive.
http://www.thedailybackground.com/2007/05/30/mccai ...
McCain Taxing you more (unless you make way over 6 figures, which you dont)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/11/141710 ...
Plus a giant run up of the deficit greater than Obamas.
I did my research Jack. These are the facts, you live in the illusion that your voting for a conservative. You're not, you're voting for a neo-con.
***** god help us all if McCain gets elected.. - Meep3D, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3I somehow doubt wearing a flag has any impact on patriotism. It's not like vampires and crosses - it's pretty easy to fake being a patriot and if he _really_ wasn't one he would no doubt be wearing multiple flag pins at all times.
- BigMacMcChicken, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4OHHHH it was in the 60s.
Well by all means, I think we should forget about it then.
It's amazing how liberals are always trying to make people forget what they were saying/doing in the 60s.
This is the loony crowd Obama runs with. Former communists, terrorists, radicals, who all realized that that the only way to accomplish their totalitarian vision was to hide it from everyone at all costs. Play it off like they were just a bunch of stupid kids in the 60s. Yeah right. It's amazing that Obama will constantly drop words like "fairness" or "justice" when referring to the economy and nobody will call him out.
Obama's ilk doesn't care how bad things get, or how low the standard of living is. They only care about equality. If we're all hungry and freezing to death, that's progress. That's why they are constantly talking about the gap between rich and poor. It's much easier to make the rich poor than to make the poor rich. - infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4You'd be surprised at how many of them are actually that stupid.
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Yeah, I wasn't going to comment on the statistical error of polling, but you're right.
If Obama's bump from the convention is kept to a minimum, and McCain gets a good bump from the RNC Convention, then it should be smooth sailing until November... ;) - vexingmodstwo, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4No, you ***** moron, Swiftgood. NO.
No one, NO ONE, is claiming Obama is a terrorist.
What they are claiming is that Obama has spent his life among radical left wing people like Ayers and is trying to downplay it and in some cases denies it.
What they are claiming is that despite the nice speeches, Obama is a far left socialist and not the centrist that he tries to convince every he is. He is not a centrist. His a far left liberal who is pretending to be something he isn't.
Why is no one allowed to question this? - jayzDigga, on 08/26/2008, -4/+6Huff Post - you spam too much.
God Bless America, pass the Kool-Aid. - miriv365, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2$75,000 -- It seems that that is the definition of rich since everytime Congress starts handing out tax rebates or calls for tax credits..they get phased out starting at $75000 for a single person. Everywhere you read they say $150,000, but you have to pay attention as that is $150,000 per FAMILY.... anyway, I am above that, so I guess I am considered rich, and I get screwed by not getting tax rebates...or proposed gas credits...
- UNCsucks, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4Why is it not ok for McCain to point out that Obama has associated himself with radical people?
If Obama spouted an ad that linked McCain to some radical righty, Digg would be like, "ZOMG AWESOME AD!" and say it was fair play. - inactive, on 08/26/2008, -5/+7McCain will be the 44th american president for sure.
- GrodyChamp, on 08/26/2008, -5/+7Huffpo, a now official business parnter brought to you officially by Digg to the front page 50 times a day!
- Mononuclear, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2what part of "(well in the US anyway. In the rest of the world they are more center)" did you not get? Liberals in the US are considered left wing even though those same liberals in most other places in the world would be more central. In US politics they are on the left.
- loki49152, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4"They were at best acquaintances."
At Bill Ayers' house. To launch Obamas campaign for President. - neognostic, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2I'm pretty sure there are far, far deeper issues than just his dad hitting his mom. Please get therapy, before we see you on the news shooting children in the streets.
- GrodyChamp, on 08/26/2008, -4/+6He said "worked WITH", idiot.
- rthakidn, on 08/26/2008, -4/+6Painting Republican attacks as sleazy is a bit like whining when you're losing. The fact is, the Democrats tend to have a platform that is borderline socialist, so they will attract and have acquaintances with people of that bent, usually more extreme in their socialist positions. They gravitate to each other. Now the extreme socialists, like Ayers, will always use the useful idiots to achieve their goals. It's therefore on the Dem. politician to be careful who they associate with, knowing that's the type of people they attract. Otherwise, they open themselves up to attacks like this.
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