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North American Union Already Starting to Replace USA
humanevents.com — Since March 2005 at a summit meeting in Waco, TX., Leaders of USA, Mexico and Canada issued a joint statement announced the creation of the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” (SPP) the biginning of the North American Union. Here is recent information: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58778
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- Argentian, on 04/26/2008, -1/+4This has some interesting information in it. Tracks an article from a couple of years ago, including the standard stuff from those who shout out, "Tinfoil hat wearer," to the most recent meeting between Bush, Calderon and Martin just this week. Now we can see where the concerns from a few years ago are coming true. Read the first article, then look at the website displayed at the bottom of the lead in box (above).
It's time to face reality. - RogerStrong, on 04/27/2008, -4/+2The first half of the article is mostly BS accusations: "They say they're doing X but we know they're doing Y".
The second half of the article, their "proof", is ENTIRELY BS. Their "proof" comes from the CFR report "Building a North American Community".
a) The CFR is a private American lobby group, NOT a government agency. There are similar groups with equal standing in the US who want the opposite - protectionism and isolationism. And the CFR has no standing in Canada.
b) Since "Building a North American Community" was released, Canada and the US have done the OPPOSITE of what it calls for. Canada rejected the "common external tariff and outer security perimeter". The US put passport requirements on the Canada-US border for the first time EVER, and locked it down in other ways. It's harder to cross the border than ever before.
It's like quoting an article from Toshiba from the same time, about how HD-DVD is the future of video. The information isn't just one-sided to begin with and a tad out of date - in hindsight it's flat-out wrong.- WarSaw27, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4The CFR is funded by the uS taxpayer. There is not equal world wide for policy and agenda implementation.
Isolationism has clearly lost to corporate facism in the US, thats clear to even the dumbest amoung us.
Roger knows that trade is how they rope us into this so that we can be held in economic hostages to it, just like europeans in the EU.
Fairness just isnt an issue roger when it comes to evil, this should be self evident.- RogerStrong, on 04/27/2008, -4/+2>> The CFR is funded by the uS taxpayer
Lots of special interest groups get the occasional grant. That doesn't let them decide government policy.
>> Isolationism has clearly lost to corporate facism in the US
Except of course that scrapping or renegotiating a lesser NAFTA is now a major campaign issue. And from durham wheat to high tech to softwood lumber, the US increasingly refuses to honor NAFTA anyway. And instead of making the borders more transparent, they're more locked down than ever.
>> Fairness just isnt an issue roger
It is when you're dealing with democracies that can simply vote against your plans. As Canada has a record of doing - INCLUDING the "common security perimeter" at the heart of this artical.- keltin, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4Canada's Vote? - They simply vote against it, and their government simply Ignores their Vote. Same as here.
Right after the 2004 elections I was living in Las Vegas. My main concern was illegal immigration at the time (22% illegals estimated in Vegas, and climbing). I sent a letter to Sen. John Ensign, R-NV, about two things that seemed to go hand in glove - the lack of border protection and a question about the government representation in the SPP (steps towards the North American Union).
Answer: Four paragraphs from his taff, stating, 1. Ensign voted to spend money on a virtual fence on the border (and we now know how effective that is), and 2. The SPP is real, but it's only some individual, non-governmental working groups ironing out a few kinks in the trade process, and there were NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS involved. Since then, the lie has been shown to that statement.
Yes, Roger, you think the borders are locked down, and I can tell you right now (being less than 5 miles from it) there is NO reduction in the stream of illegals across the border. All you are reading is some grandstanding by the MSM and some politicians. The reality is that we are STILL hemorrhaging at the border, to the tune of more than 1,000 people every day.
>> CFR established decades ago by a group that were very instrumental in determining the course of events within the military (where many CFR members still come from , at least at the flag level in military), the Departments of State, Commerce, Treasury and Transportation, and almost the entire top 100 corporations in the world (not just the USA). Roger, you're dealing a skewed deck.- WarSaw27, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Yeah you live by the border to the north and I live just to the south. Roger lives in his own world. Im sure the jews thought they were marching off to freedom and that they still had a vote as they were led off to slaughter. There is no more vote only agenda.
In rogers mind this is the first time that politicians used something like NAFTA that they know we hate as a campaign issue. Once the election is over regarless of who wins, illegal immigration and NAFTA are dead in the water again. Is this your first election roger?
- WarSaw27, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Yeah you live by the border to the north and I live just to the south. Roger lives in his own world. Im sure the jews thought they were marching off to freedom and that they still had a vote as they were led off to slaughter. There is no more vote only agenda.
- keltin, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4Canada's Vote? - They simply vote against it, and their government simply Ignores their Vote. Same as here.
- RogerStrong, on 04/27/2008, -4/+2>> The CFR is funded by the uS taxpayer
- WarSaw27, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4The CFR is funded by the uS taxpayer. There is not equal world wide for policy and agenda implementation.
- WarSaw27, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4Yep its real, here in the uS they are calling the food shortages tinfoil hat stuff to, my buddies asked what I thought today and I answered "well we cannot buy bulk rice within 100 miles of here today what do you think" there is no rice available there is nothing tinfoil about it. I care not about the cause whether the panic buying is to blame, reality is there is no rice. These tinfoil hats are shielding the sheeple from reality. Baaaaa k to sleep, go watch the news theyll tell you what to think.
- RogerStrong, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1>> well we cannot buy bulk rice within 100 miles of here
Sure; Asia also subsidized the growing of bio-fuel instead of food, with the same results - a lack of food, including rice. The price of rice skyrocketed.
Now if you're a rice producer in North America, who will you sell your rice too - North Americans at a lower price, or Asians at a higher price?
It sucks, but it has nothing to do with any NAU.- WarSaw27, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1But it does lend reality to the tinfoil hat naysayers that say there is no shortage. Bottom line is no rice. Get that through your tinfoil hat.
- RogerStrong, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1Sure. But it has nothing to do with any NAU, any more than proof of recording industry price fixing would in turn prove 9/11 theories.
- WarSaw27, on 04/29/2008, -1/+1It proves that the tinfoil hat naysayers are wrong, when there is no rice, theres no rice. Is the NAU cuckoo? sure but its also reality.
- RogerStrong, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1Sure. But it has nothing to do with any NAU, any more than proof of recording industry price fixing would in turn prove 9/11 theories.
- WarSaw27, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1But it does lend reality to the tinfoil hat naysayers that say there is no shortage. Bottom line is no rice. Get that through your tinfoil hat.
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