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No Media Outrage Over Offensive Rolling Stone McCain Cartoon
newsbusters.org — What in the heck is going on?! Pro Obama NewYorker parodies him to get the sympathy vote for nonexistent racist attacks they imagine are coming from the right, and MSM plays along with their over-the-top outrage. Now, ProObama Rolling Stoned publishes an obscene cartoon mocking McCain's imprisonment...and not a FREAKING PEEP from the leftist MSM?
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- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -58/+104Well, the dhimmicraps portrayed as NVA / VC certainly are quite believable as vicious scum, so that part is accurate enough . . . .
The overall image / message is despicable . . . but then, what on the left is not ‽ ‽
And who truly could expect honesty or fairness in the MSM which serves so eagerly as the propagandists for the enemies of the USA ‽ ‽- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -30/+11"Well, the dhimmicraps portrayed as NVA / VC certainly are quite believable as vicious scum, so that part is accurate enough . . ."
I don't think "dhimmicraps" is a word, but if you're referring to the characiture of George W. Bush torturing a POW, I'd agree with you that it is accurate and that he's quite believable as vicious scum.- jcm267, on 07/22/2008, -0/+12George W. Bush is anything but a dhimmi.
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -14/+2I think if you knew him, you'd be dissapointed at his lack of frothing hatred for all muslims. He just doesn't give a ***** about human rights (and is therefore accurately depicted as a torturer)
- Phyraxus, on 07/22/2008, -8/+12I'm pretty sure everyone thinks this is in poor taste, and because of that, there is no controversy and hence, no ratings to be won with this piece.
- aliengoods, on 07/22/2008, -18/+5Please tell me who the enemies of the USA are, because judging by your rant I would guess it's Americans on the left.
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -19/+5Bunch of blame-America-firsters in this thread, of course they think Americans are the enemies of America. Americans are always wrong, as far as they are concerned.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -9/+18Hardly a rant, but I certainly consider many on the left as much the enemy of this country as the terrorists they so eagerly support - and deserving of the same fate.
- Phyraxus, on 07/22/2008, -7/+5LOL nice call swrostmore, use their own spin tactics against them.
- CryRightardCry, on 07/22/2008, -15/+3@iconoclast
Oh icon, you pathetic lying piece of *****.
WHAT terrorists does the left support?
So do you consider yourself to be supporting the wars you cheer for?
I can't believe someone as cowardly and ***** as you would still be commenting day after day, when your revolting warmongering cowardice is on display for all to see.
You are pathetic.
Are you really proud to shill for failure and corruption and war and abuse?
So are you a rightard because you have no ethics and morals, or did you lose your morals after becoming a rightard?
You don't seem to have a thought in your head that wasn't stuffed in there by Bush.
Hey, *****, I see you didn't get the memo: He's a failure. - jcm267, on 07/22/2008, -0/+16@CryBaby
I'm asking you again. How much have you sacrificed to work towards ending this war? - rjwusa, on 07/23/2008, -3/+9"...Please tell me who the enemies of the USA are, because judging by your rant I would guess it's Americans on the left..."
BINGO! They're called "progressives". Give the idiot a cigar before he and his ilk ban them!
- zorpscorp, on 07/22/2008, -19/+4Obvious troll is obvious.
- azAZ09, on 07/22/2008, -20/+7Why is McSame's service record considered such a sacred cow anyway? Wasn't US involvement in Viet-Nam was a huge mistake---hence the withdrawal? Wasn't he just a tool--enabling immoral policy?
Didn't he finish in the bottom 5 of his class at the USNA? Once in flight training, how many planes did he lose? Didn't he drink a lot of liquor for a pilot, even in those days? Doesn't that sound kind of like bush, but with at least showing up? Who took command of the fire suppression team aboard the USS Forrestal? Oh yeah--right--not him. Did his dad pull strings to clear him in the investigation?
So he crashed, was captured beaten, tortured and wounded--he really didn't have much of a choice about that, and the one decision everyone applauds him on--the choice to refuse early release, was really the only moral choice given the circumstances. Isn't it weird that he's being given the accolades of a hero, just for not being a sleaze by accepting early release based on family privilege?
So what we really have here is a history of a guy who is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and gets by with the minimum. I feel bad for him that he's been so used and abused but I guess that's what he can expect for being a tool.- Phyraxus, on 07/22/2008, -10/+3Harsh, but true; it really is the honest criticism that cuts the deepest.
- txchica, on 07/23/2008, -5/+4az, the only "tool" here is you for questioning McCain's service to his country. He volunteered to serve his country and for that alone he should be respected. Your disrespect says a lot about your character, and not in a good way. A man was tortured and to this day has limited use of his arms due to that torture and you want to downplay it and say he didn't have a choice in that.. no *****, and I'm pretty sure he would have avoided it if he'd actually had a choice.
"So what we really have here is a history of a guy" who was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for his country when he was called to duty, a man who refused early release and who continues to serve his county to this day. So AZ, what have you done for your country recently besides make unfounded insinuations about Sen McCain's character? Really I'd love to know.
- Nordiskt, on 07/23/2008, -12/+2I appreciate your colorful language, but what do parties really have to do with this?
Agreed, the cartoon is in poor taste. It's also an entertainment magazine. Are you telling me right-wing media doesn't play this game?
At the same time, what makes America the free land you & I love is our right to express our opinions.
You may not like these opinions, but having them does not make anyone an "enemy of the USA". - jotate, on 07/23/2008, -8/+5I'm quite the Obama supporter. And I definitely agree this ***** is ***** up. And I definitely agree that the lack of coverage in the MSM on this after that New Yorker nonsense is *****.
But holy *****, every comment for this article is ***** stupid. - rjwusa, on 07/23/2008, -5/+16"...Why is McCain's service record (be) considered such a sacred cow anyway? .."
Because John McCain placed his life where he believed his convictions and duty lie. Something Obama and Williams Jefferson Clinton clearly would have never done. They have no sense of duty. They only have a sense of self, and they probably are both deserving of conviction of the incarceration kind.- azAZ09, on 07/23/2008, -12/+2*****. McSame went into the family business. He never really had a choice. He should be excused from critical analysis of his choices because as a partying tweener he felt he should indenture himself to the war machine? He was interpolated into an ideology that promotes the point of view that the military should set aside their convictions to follow the chain of command without regards to source -- political policy. Following an illusory sense of obligation to participate, does not absolve him from being considered accomplice to bad strategies or morally reprehensible political policies.
- azAZ09, on 07/23/2008, -12/+2*****. McSame went into the family business. He never really had a choice. He should be excused from critical analysis of his choices because as a partying tweener he felt he should indenture himself to the war machine? He was interpolated into an ideology that promotes the point of view that the military should set aside their convictions to follow the chain of command without regards to source -- political policy. Following an illusory sense of obligation to participate, does not absolve him from being considered accomplice to bad strategies or morally reprehensible political policies.
- davidwasman, on 07/23/2008, -16/+3Where is the outrage from all you god-fearing 'better than everyone' ***** about the portrayal of the Vietnamese in the image?
Oh, right! You only focus on the white guy...because you're racists.- IconoclastStill, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2I lost too many friends to the VC / NVA to care in any way about their sensitivities. I still think we should have popped a few nukes on Haiphong and Hanoi.
- BlueSkyfish, on 07/23/2008, -8/+1"dhimmicraps"?
"*****"
***** you, digg. You're all too busy fighting about what team you're on than to actually look at the issues. I bet you'd vote the texas chainsaw murderer in to office just because he's in your political party.- IconoclastStill, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4I'd prefer Ghenghis Kahh, actually, but either would be acceptable if they promised to purge this land of the traitorous cowards on the left. Unfortunately, other than Goldwater (when I was too young to vote), Reagan and Dole, I've never been able to vote *for* a Presidential candidate, but rather *against* the leftist scum opposing them.
- groovsmyth, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Sweep Alan Keyes into office. If the Republicans can no longer offer anything different than the Democrats, it's time for America's Independent Party - the new home for Conservatives in America. http://selfgovernment.us
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -30/+11"Well, the dhimmicraps portrayed as NVA / VC certainly are quite believable as vicious scum, so that part is accurate enough . . ."
- dlbfromLA, on 07/22/2008, -49/+89Well we all know that about 90% of all media is controlled by far left tree hugging liberals, so that does not surprise me one bit about Rolling Stoned! BUT, I think that it is a travesty to make fun of his imprisonment in a POW Camp in Vietnam! Although they have the right enemies of the USA pictured on the outside of the cage!!!!
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -19/+5So Hillary, Obama, and George W. Bush are "enemies of the USA?"
I don't know if I'd go that far, honestly.- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -6/+12No, just the two dhimmicraps.
- geoken, on 07/22/2008, -7/+5Don't you realize what an idiot you sound like when you try to talk about 'grown up' stuff while using words that aren't humerus to anyone above 7yrs old?
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -4/+6I don't consider the term 'dhimmicrap' to be at all humorous (BTW, 'grown up' people can spell or use a spell checker, geo), but rather an accurate description of this particular group: "dhimmi" because they are so eager to surrender to the moslem fanatics and "crap" because they are so full of excrement. It has the further virtue of having enough resemblance to the term by which they style themselves that the identification is reasonably easy, even for the simplistic babbling along in obobblehead's wake.
Sorry if you don't like the names - I've seen enough of "chimp," "righttard" and far worse comments over the years and on this site such that I have lost any interest in civil discourse with the left. I can't lynch them - yet - so I settle for insults.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4Oh right. Sorry dude, reality is that the myth of the liberal media is a myth.
Regardless, the cartoon is offensive. I am as liberal as they get, but I am old enought to remember Vietnam. This kind of cartoon is not even good as satire.
Making fun of the far right media is valid, because their attacks are based on lies. Making fun of McCain as a prisoner war is not funny, because it is something that is real. It has nothing to do with left/right, republican/democrat. It is a question of integrity.- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -3/+3Well, since you recognized then the liberal media has gone too far this time and overstepped the line egregiously, perhaps its not a myth after all then and its really a myth that its ok to make fun of the the right wing media because its fueled by lies. RS must have thought they had the green light to poke satire at McCain's imprisonment as a Vietnam POW because so long as its directed at the GOP and Conservatives, it goes. Catch my drift?
- dlbfromLA, on 07/23/2008, -2/+2I commend you, a liberal with rhyme and reason. Although y'all are far and few between.
- BlueSkyfish, on 07/23/2008, -4/+2Are you one of those people who think Fox News is "fair and balanced"?
- dlbfromLA, on 07/23/2008, -3/+4It is defiantly more fair and balanced than CNN,CBS,NBC, and ABC!
- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -2/+3are one of those people who thinks FOX isn't?
- Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -2/+1Fox News can't be trusted as a news source after fighting for their first amendment right to lie.
http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -19/+5So Hillary, Obama, and George W. Bush are "enemies of the USA?"
- atmenterprises, on 07/22/2008, -47/+82Typical from the leftist media. Of course, you could look at it like this: the media doesn't care even the slightest about what Rolling Stone thinks, which is a knock on the credibility of that magazine.
- fulibs, on 07/22/2008, -56/+79Don't they (liberals) ever get tired of being wrong?
- aliengoods, on 07/22/2008, -16/+11Yes. But that rarely happens when the facts have a well known liberal bias.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -4/+14It's the opinions which have the liberal bias . . . facts have nothing to do with the left . . . nor do logic, reason, history, etc.
- geoken, on 07/22/2008, -7/+1I guess I should believe what you have to say about logic considering the fact that you think making up a stupid name like "dhimmicraps" constitutes a valid argument.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7The term is not an argument, geo. It is a label, an accurate one . . . got it? If not, ask your mommy; she can explain the big words.
- geoken, on 07/23/2008, -2/+1Labels are arguments if their attribution is arguable. There is no general notion tying liberals to Dhimmi's, any attempts to do so would be considered arguable.
Startling how you continue to fail at logic, while trying to be the judge of those who are/aren't logical. I look forward to you launching further ad-hominem attacks thus proving you 'logical superiority'.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -4/+14It's the opinions which have the liberal bias . . . facts have nothing to do with the left . . . nor do logic, reason, history, etc.
- BGog, on 07/23/2008, -8/+2I also think the image is crap but your comment is pretty stupid. Quite frankly I believe that the evils of your bush/cheney administration have removed your right to call anyone wrong for some time. Go polish your gun with your sister wife and let the government be lead by non-ignorant people who are from the 21st centry.
- BGog, on 07/23/2008, -7/+3Because conservatives never create tasteless things..... like depicting to the first Black nominee as monkey. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-obama-c ...
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -4/+2Yes, poor taste knows no political party. It cuts across all political stances. Liberals wrong? Well, they did push things like civil rights, equal pay for equal work, Medicare, better benefits for veterans.
In the face of the last eight years, when every aspect of American life has deteriorated, why is it that conservatives are unable to accept that old-fashioned value of accepting responsibility for your actions.
I am sure tired of hearing the non-stop whining from Republicans. For the first four years, Bush blamed everything on Clinton, now everything is the fault of the Democratic lead congress. You have had power for seven years, and what has gotten better?
Don't conservatives ever get tired of being wrong? Maybe not, because they have mastered the ability to never take any responsibility for their stupid actions.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -4/+2Yes, poor taste knows no political party. It cuts across all political stances. Liberals wrong? Well, they did push things like civil rights, equal pay for equal work, Medicare, better benefits for veterans.
- aliengoods, on 07/22/2008, -16/+11Yes. But that rarely happens when the facts have a well known liberal bias.
- BECoole, on 07/22/2008, -44/+67Vietnam Vets are all crazy, don't ya know? At least according to Obama's Bigots and the whole left wing anti-war crowd.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -4/+3Wrong. I am anti-war. I protested Vietnam, I lost a brother in Vietnam.
After the disgusting display of Republicans wearing purple heart "bandaids" at the Republican convention to mock Kerry's service, no one on the right wing has any right to accuse anyone of not honoring veterans.
You are patriotic and respectful if a veteran is Republican. But you will mock and accuse, lie and disparage because you do not like a person's political beliefs.
Mocking any veteran is ugly. It is shameful.- BECoole, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4Kerry went to Paris and met with NVA officials on ways to undermine the US war effort. He is a traitor and belongs in jail for treason.
You obviously think Benedict Arnold is a hero too. - shupy, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1You have obviously swallowed the neocon revisionist history hook, line, and sinker.
The US war effort? What war? Vietnam was a disaster, a "police action" that couldn't be won. A shining example of the US pissing away American lives to support a petty dictator. There is no question about Vietnam, it was a mistake. There was not American "war effort", because there was never a declared war.
- BECoole, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4Kerry went to Paris and met with NVA officials on ways to undermine the US war effort. He is a traitor and belongs in jail for treason.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -4/+3Wrong. I am anti-war. I protested Vietnam, I lost a brother in Vietnam.
- BillE3, on 07/22/2008, -38/+64They support the troops, but hate the vets. Obama was neither.
- slyweazel, on 07/22/2008, -14/+6Wait, which party supported the new G.I Bill and which didn't?
- Nordiskt, on 07/22/2008, -6/+1Hate the vets? Where did you come to this conclusion?
If I were going to use rational thought (& hate is not part of that), I would say McCain, as a Vet, should be the first one to step up for his fellow vets.
Unfortunately that is not that case anymore. Check your voting records!
(i.e. G.I. Bill stated above)
I support our troops, our vets... but I do not support a man who panders to Washington.
- faultlineusa, on 07/22/2008, -41/+61Outrage is right!!! The MSM is no longer left. It's Marxist!!!
- SuperVepr308, on 07/22/2008, -28/+63That is really low.
- BGog, on 07/23/2008, -7/+5(BTW I agree the image is tasteless)
What is really low is a candidate(Mccain) who was tortured actually flipping his opinion and supporting the torture of people in gitmo. That is not the kind of president I want. Good grief.- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -4/+4It's ironclad that McCain was tortured for years as a POW in Vietnam. However, it's still debatable and highly suspect that our government tortures gitmo prisoners. It''s a PC contention not rooted in facts, but propogated by the left and the MSM to attack Bush and America as evil. Only fools like yourself buy into that hype - especially without it being proven yet. Therefore it's not a flip flop. Nice try however, but NOT! Depriving Muslims of the Koran or harassing them with pork products does not constitute torture.
- card51short, on 07/23/2008, -5/+3oh my lord you people are in denial...both of you. Left and right.
Complete idiots.
You'll criticize one side then when your side does it you say it's OK.
I'm just baffled by the stupidity displayed here.
"It's ironclad that McCain was tortured for years as a POW in Vietnam. However, it's still debatable and highly suspect that our government tortures gitmo prisoners."
WHAT?!?! *head explodes*
- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -4/+4It's ironclad that McCain was tortured for years as a POW in Vietnam. However, it's still debatable and highly suspect that our government tortures gitmo prisoners. It''s a PC contention not rooted in facts, but propogated by the left and the MSM to attack Bush and America as evil. Only fools like yourself buy into that hype - especially without it being proven yet. Therefore it's not a flip flop. Nice try however, but NOT! Depriving Muslims of the Koran or harassing them with pork products does not constitute torture.
- BGog, on 07/23/2008, -7/+5(BTW I agree the image is tasteless)
- Cheezo, on 07/22/2008, -32/+53boycott all advertisers in the rolling stone...
insulting beyond belief- rjwusa, on 07/23/2008, -4/+7Most Americans of conscience don't use Trojans for butt-boinking. Nor do they play Grand Theft Auto or use Zig-Zag rolling papers. They read a book work real jobs and stay informed by reading real journalism like The American Spectator Magazine. So, a boycott of Rolling Stone's advertisers by conservative, real Americans would probably do no good.
- FritzKatz, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4Cheezo, I think you've got a great idea.
Maybe not the Rolling Stone, but if conservatives everywhere were to boycott all advertisers of the New York Times then it would make a differences -- cancel your subscriptions if you have them. Don't shop at department stores that take out full page ads in the NYT (Macy's, etc.).
Let the advertisers know that you aren't buying their products because they advertise in the NYT.
- 7thchild, on 07/22/2008, -30/+48I have never cared much for the mag but now I have nothing but disgust for them. As an old vet myself I still remember this type of garbage coming from the weirdos in the 60s.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -3/+4I was a 60s wierdo, protesting the war. Because my brother was killed in Vietnam to satisfy a politicians ego.
Just as our current vets are dying so junior Bush can think he is a big man. The cartoon is disgusting, and it is garbage.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -3/+4I was a 60s wierdo, protesting the war. Because my brother was killed in Vietnam to satisfy a politicians ego.
- covertress, on 07/22/2008, -35/+50When do liberals perceive politically incorrect as correct? When it is an equal opportunity offender.
- thoughtcrime, on 07/22/2008, -8/+19I don't think they care one wit about equality of opportunity. Ironically, the term "equality" is only applicable when applied to unequal opinions - ones which non-coincidentally, coincide with their own.
- reed311, on 07/22/2008, -16/+13I'm not sure. You should ask the folks at the 2004 Republican convention who mocked John Kerry's purple hearts by wearing purple bandages on their face.
- evilunleashed, on 07/22/2008, -14/+5They don't like it when their hypocrisy is exposed. Be prepared for the bury brigade.
- ssn697, on 07/22/2008, -9/+9Pretty telling that your comment is getting buried, reed. I think the McCain cartoon is disgusting, as WELL as the mocking of a purple heart. So should anyone digging this article up...
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -9/+11How were they mocking kerry, again ‽ ‽
Something about he had to put himself in for at least one of them because the doctor laughed at him ‽ ‽ And another he shouldn't have received because he caused it to himself by not following instructions ‽ ‽ ‽ And altogether, were there any stitches involved ‽ ‽ ‽ Oh, the mighty American hero, he. He ran up medals faster than Audie Murphy - who actually EARNED his - then used them to catch a quick way home where he promptly began to sabotage the military and this country in collaboration with the enemy. That PoS is guilty of treason and should be stood against a wall. - allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -3/+3@ssn: I think that went right over your head. It wasn't the purple heart being mocked but the giving of it to a traitor like John Kerry who sold out real soldiers and heroes for fame and power.
- rjwusa, on 07/23/2008, -4/+6Difference between Kerry and McCain is that Kerry trotted out his military record as a laurel to rest and run upon. McCain has pretty much been hesitant to make his military record part of his qualification to run upon. It's the left who has stirred the pot by calling into McCain's fine and heroic military record.
- farmerjohn48pan, on 07/22/2008, -33/+45Rolling Stoned has been on my crap list for years. The majority of artists, politicos, actors, etc. that they feature in their magazine are morally and spiritually bankrupt as well as traitors to this country. The publishers, editors, and contributing writers are America haters of the worst sort and they print an astonishing amount of lies, distortions and flat out made up material that is presented as factual. With a few modifications the Sedition Act would be a good thing for these creeps. As far as boycotting advertisers, have you seen some of the disgusting companies they give ad space to?
- highlymodified, on 07/22/2008, -13/+4"With a few modifications the Sedition Act would be a good thing for these creeps."
Please, take away the right to free speech as long as those affected disagree with you. Do you have any idea how un-American that is?- farmerjohn48pan, on 07/22/2008, -3/+11You haven't even read the Sedition Act have you? Although poorly written and enforced it was designed to keep people from publishing outright lies about the goverment and it servents. The worst punishment ever handed out under this law was two months in jail and a four hundred dollar fine. Do your research before posting.
- highlymodified, on 07/22/2008, -9/+3Regardless of quality-of-writing and enforcement, it does not serve the country to have laws on the books that are blatantly in violation of the First (and Tenth, according to Jefferson) Amendments, as every modern constitutional scholar would tell you the Sedition act was.
Not to mention that the reason no one spent a significant amount of time in prison was because Jefferson pardoned them all, knowing damn well it used for unconstitutional and partisan *****.
Speaking of research, here's the part of the Sedition Act about the punishment itself: "...he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, ... shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term NOT LESS THAN SIX MONTHS nor exceeding five years..." Emphasis added.
Laws like this have no place in a country that calls itself free, regardless about how you feel about the Rolling Stone's cartoons, the government should not be able to imprison you for what you say, regardless of how much ***** it contains (outright lies or otherwise.) That's called "freedom of speech" and we like it.
- highlymodified, on 07/22/2008, -13/+4"With a few modifications the Sedition Act would be a good thing for these creeps."
- DerangedPenguin, on 07/22/2008, -32/+49I used to be outraged by the left now I am just amused. Like a parasite they live because of the freedoms of this country, and like parasites they are attempting to kill the host. But conservatives can rejoice, because if the media is free to slam and hate the government you know you live in a free society. Start to panic when they begin to lock up Rush Limbaugh like they tried to do down in Florida, or send in government union goons to intimidate residents like they did in the Detroit Michigan region or pass laws that industry unionization votes are no longer confidential. I am not anti-union they have a place in society, they gave us the 40 hour work week, whatever that is, they helped insure safer working conditions. I am against a government-union alliance that keeps crooked politicians and union bosses in power.
- TYRONEBR549, on 07/22/2008, -9/+26Your really onto something here. The Parisite party. Yea, that's it. I like it. It hits the nail on the head.
- Evilena, on 07/22/2008, -14/+4"Start to panic when they begin to lock up Rush Limbaugh like they tried to do down in Florida"
Start to panic when they don't lock up Rush Limbaugh for violating Jeb Bush's drug policy. Why is Rush and Jeb's daughter Noelle safe from the war on drugs?
We need to turn on Rush and hear Barack the magic negro a few more times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ - metaliq, on 07/22/2008, -9/+6Deranged, I think you've got it backwards.
If you have looked at the past seven years, more suppression of freedom of speech has occurred than ever before. On top of that, it's not so much the suppression of voices, but much rather the media outlets controlling and filtering what they decide to report on.
I think you are brainwashed to believe that the government cares about you. They don't. They never will.- HanFastolfe, on 07/22/2008, -3/+13"If you have looked at the past seven years, more suppression of freedom of speech has occurred than ever before."
If your historical context begins seven years ago you're absolutely right. For the rest of us history is a bit longer, and complex, it contains things like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Ac ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition_Act_of_1918
Those last two acts together, make George W. Bush look like an ACLU lawyer when compared to that great "progressive" president, Woodrow Wilson. - IconoclastStill, on 07/23/2008, -2/+9Apparently the simplistic lemmings think US history began with slick willie's regime.
- Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -6/+2Really, how so? Show me you read the acts and understand what you are talking about.
- HanFastolfe, on 07/23/2008, -1/+7@Evilena
Show me the modern day Eugene Debs equivalent please. - allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -4/+5in re; to evilena: Die hard liberals are so adept at turning the tables on a statement of truth they have no answer for. Typical fan-fare. The usual tactics. Very playbook in nature of them and their deceptive ways of deflecting truth by shifting the spotlight away from it. ho-hummmmm.....
- Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -7/+2The Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp is full of Eugene Debs equivalents.
- Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -6/+2"deflecting truth by shifting the spotlight away from it. ho-hummmmm....."
Notice that I asked HanFastolfe a question and he shifted the spotlight to by asking his own question about Eugene Debs.
There was nothing about who Eugene Debs, his crime, the law he broke or comparing Debs v. United States to Boumediene v. Bush . He just threw the name out there.
Quit projecting your own playbook onto me. - HanFastolfe, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4@Evilena
"Notice that I asked HanFastolfe a question and he shifted the spotlight to by asking his own question about Eugene Debs. "
Did I shift the spot light? You stated:
"Show me you read the acts and understand what you are talking about."
"On June 16, 1918, Debs made a speech in Canton, Ohio in opposition to World War I and was arrested under the Espionage Act of 1917. He was convicted, sentenced to serve ten years in prison and disenfranchised for life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
Then you did this.
"The Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp is full of Eugene Debs equivalents."
Wow, just wow. How does it feel to know that no matter how hard you try you can (probably) never say anything as stupid as what you just did. If you really understood who Eugene Debs was there's no way you can compare him to the people at Gitmo. If you really understood who the people at Gitmo are there's no way you can compare them to Eugene Debs.
I "...just threw the name out there.", having a pretty good idea that you would try to compare it to Gitmo, you did, your fail was not only predicable, it is complete.
You still can't show me a modern day equivalent of Eugene Debs. Find me a US citizen, in prison for making a speech. That's it. Find me one, just one. Where that was their only crime, why they are incarcerated. - tkstock, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3Han,
Evilena just wants you to spoon-feed her the information. That is typical of persons unwilling to do research for themselves and will make decisions based on emotion and perception. They are blind because they refuse to see, not because they can't. - HanFastolfe, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3tkstock,
I know, but I'm not just going to let them go unchallenged. I have neither the time nor inclination to challenge them all. There's just too much stupid out there, and too few of us. It can be entertaining thou. Except for the fact that so many of them seem to be products of an obviously failed public school system (long before a university gets a chance at failing them).
- HanFastolfe, on 07/22/2008, -3/+13"If you have looked at the past seven years, more suppression of freedom of speech has occurred than ever before."
- MoniqueMoniCat, on 07/23/2008, -3/+6good analogy - PERFECT.
and the BEST way to kill parasites are natural herbs and electricity zappers.
but let's not forget the VIRUSES and BACTERIA that hide behind the parasites and vice versa--they work in unison together. It's really creepy team work.
Liberals>Dems>Leftists = God haters.
- gquaglia, on 07/22/2008, -25/+48I have no problems with political cartoons and satire. But I do have a problem with the hypocrisy of the left who cries foul and racism with the Obama New Yorker cover while remains quiet and probably supports this cover. You step into the public arena and you are fair game as far as I'm concerned. No special treatment or kid gloves for anyone, no matter their race, beliefs or whatever.
- flip2trip, on 07/22/2008, -26/+45Well that's it, I'm cancelling my Rolling Stone subscription....oh wait, that's right I don't have one, never read the rag and now I never have to bother.
- radiofrequency, on 07/22/2008, -31/+41It's not a big deal. McCain has gone through so much and achieved so much that making a satire of it actually makes him look better. The Senator served with distinction in the military and when he came back from Vietnam after going through what must have been a brutal ordeal (6 YEARS!) he didn't turn on America. Remember Kerry testifying before Congress against America after only serving in Vietnam fro a couple of months?
Satire about Obama doesn't work because he is the most unqualified candidate for POTUS in my lifetime and there are plenty of strong allegations about his anti-Americanism and muslim background.
The only people who should be offended by that cartoon are Vietnamese.- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/22/2008, -7/+8Wow! Answering questions is turning against America.
Hey my dad served two tours as a Marine and he thinks the American government is *****. Are you gonna call him a traitor? Why is one mans service more valuable then another mans service?
Talk out your ass some more...- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -3/+5You're clueless. nuff said.
- rjwusa, on 07/23/2008, -4/+7Your dad is entitled to his opinion and regardless of how he feels about the government, I thank him for his sacrifice and service to my country. If your father was to run for public office, his feelings of the government and his service to the country would be opened to scrutiny. That's just the way it is. Many Americans believe the American government is full of B.S.. Not for how our system was intended to operate, but how the left has hijacked the government and Constitution to mold the nation into their little dysfunctional socialist-bound utopia.
- ccso8462, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Fine, let him move to a socialist or communist country if he doesn't like the American Govt. Good riddance to him. And please take Murtha with him! Marines can be traitors, too.
- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/22/2008, -7/+8Wow! Answering questions is turning against America.
- MrFurious2k, on 07/22/2008, -32/+39Frankly why are we surprised by hypocrisy? If you look at the front page of digg, it's covered in leftist propaganda accusing us of far worse than unequal treatment. Frankly, if we don't get a handle on what is shaping up to be a propaganda (notice I didn't say information) war, we're going to continue to lose ground politically.
- azAZ09, on 07/22/2008, -16/+6Actually you'll lose because conservatism has failed the country completely and has been consistently failed the for 8 years.
- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -4/+5completely ... like in every sense of the word dude! So - you're saying this country has *completely* failed due in part to 8 years of an administration. Listen, this country has weathered more than the shaky admin of Bush thanks to the historically contentious times of the21st century and survived just fine. The sky didn't fall and its you who lose for wishing demise on our country in the name of partisan politics.
- azAZ09, on 07/22/2008, -16/+6Actually you'll lose because conservatism has failed the country completely and has been consistently failed the for 8 years.
- thoughtcrime, on 07/22/2008, -30/+32Leave it to the left to up the ante by taking the lowest road available. What amuses (and sickens) me, is how the crack-smoking reds that turn out this tripe from their grist mills can claim to be "journalistic" with a straight face. Complain all you want about FOX News, but just TRY and challenge the shameless left wing shills that comprise the remaining 99% of the media establishment. All you'll hear are the deafening cries of "censorship" and "intolerance". Just how far away are we from a Maoist/Stalinist dictatorship anyway?
"Some pigs are more equal than others." - Napolean the Pig, Animal Farm, by George Orwell- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/22/2008, -8/+3Got any data to back up those claims? No? Then shut the ***** up .
- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/23/2008, -5/+5I love how I'm being dugg down but nobody is providing the proof to this ***** claims.
I also love this gem of stupid
"Complain all you want about FOX News, but just TRY and challenge the shameless left wing shills that comprise the remaining 99% of the media establishment. All you'll hear are the deafening cries of "censorship" and "intolerance". Just how far away are we from a Maoist/Stalinist dictatorship anyway?"
So let me get this straight, Maoist and Stalinist dictatorships appose censorship?! Oh how I wish you could read so you could grab a History book to see how ass backwards you are. - allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -4/+4as stated above to evilena and apparently needing of repeating: Die hard liberals are so adept at turning the tables on a statement of truth they have no answer for. Typical fan-fare. The usual tactics. very playbook in nature of them and their deceptive ways of deflecting truth by shifting the spotlight away from it. ho-hmmmmm.....
- Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2And you will continue to repeat it whenever someone bursts that bubble you are living in. What we are saying can't be right, so it must be some kind of a Die hard liberal mind trick.
I sentence you to the hell of your own making - a prisoner for all time. - thoughtcrime, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2My best response to you oMeSSiaHo, is.....get ready, here it comes.....
LEARN HOW TO READ (and spell for that matter)
I refuse to argue with someone who has no reading comprehension skills whatsoever. Anything resembling an intelligent debate is utterly hopeless. You mis-read my post, took statements out of context....well, what would one expect from a leftist with no regard to the facts.
"Shut the ***** up".... I rest my case. Thanks for making my point.
BTW, if you want "data", I suggest you look it up yourself. It isn't hard to find, and I'm not running a free research service for retards.
Emmmmkay?
- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/23/2008, -5/+5I love how I'm being dugg down but nobody is providing the proof to this ***** claims.
- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/22/2008, -8/+3Got any data to back up those claims? No? Then shut the ***** up .
- davidmesaaz, on 07/22/2008, -24/+27Where is the outrage??
- footbag01, on 07/22/2008, -22/+30Come on... It's McCain, nobody cares!
- solboldi, on 07/22/2008, -30/+25Most journalists in this country's publications are liberals. They are trying desperately to railroad Obama into the White House. One method is to smear McCain. The other is to openly worship Obama, who has very little credible experience, and actually does have poor judgement. He demonstrated his poor judgement by voting *against* the surge, and stating publicly that the surge would *increase* violence, but it actually *decreased* violence and was very successful. The war in Iraq is nearly over. Obama also wanted to pull out US troops immediately which could have been a disaster and would have ruined all the efforts of our military. What is wrong with Obama?? He is consistently wrong on very important issues and the mainstream media completely ignores his huge errors in judgement. They keep saying he has good judgement because in 2002 he gave *one* speech at an anti-war rally, in which he said he was against the war. But he was not even a member of Congress at that time, so it was safe for him to say that. There would be no political ramifications of making such a speech. I can't believe that the rationale for having him be in the White House as President is largely simply because of having given *one* speech. Obama generates many words, but thats about it. The man is the most liberal member of the Senate -- nearly a Socialist. He has demonstrated poor judgement over and over and over. But the Liberals and Progressives have already appointed him to be their Jesus and Martin Luther King, and Gandhi, even though he is very far from deserving their worship. Obama is a Messiah Wannabe.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/23/2008, -2/+10"Most journalists in this country's publications are liberals."
No, they are simply writers. *Journalists* have ethical standards and seek to present only facts . . . what is coming out of the MSM is slanted in view and vocabulary, with suppositions and opinions "liberally" sprinkled throughout. A "liberal journalist" is a very rare creature; quite possibly Tim Russert was the last of the breed.- FritzKatz, on 07/23/2008, -3/+8I wouldn't be so charitable by calling them 'simply writers'. I think 'shills' is the word you are looking for.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4A tip o' the hat, Fritz - I stand corrected, and thank you.
- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -3/+5An excellent assessment!! *clapping hands emphatically*
Lest we not forget the forgone conclusion that he's our next President as well ... "But the Liberals and Progressives have already appointed him to be their Jesus and Martin Luther King, and Gandhi..."
- IconoclastStill, on 07/23/2008, -2/+10"Most journalists in this country's publications are liberals."
- poontangpirate, on 07/22/2008, -31/+23Look how many people McCain's campaign paid to comment on this and get it popular.
- ZeroSum1975, on 07/22/2008, -21/+11You know that's the truth! But this will get dugg down quickly.
- poontangpirate, on 07/22/2008, -18/+4Sure, I think the cartoon is distasteful, but come on, you just know this has paid all over it. McCain deserves it, he doesn't even speak his own beliefs. He is a paid puppet of the oil companies, war profiteers, and corrupt politicians.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 07/22/2008, -5/+12"But this will get dugg down quickly."
Yes, because you're simpleminded douches. All my burying of douches is gratis.
- PolishLogic, on 07/22/2008, -10/+22I got $120,000 for this comment.
***** dummy. - wild, on 07/22/2008, -20/+9Think of all the McCain points being handed out in this post! Impressive.
- tkstock, on 07/22/2008, -12/+24Yeah, when people Digg Obama articles, it's voluntary. When McCain articles get Dugg, it must be because they're being paid. LOL
Polish, you only got $120,000 for your comment? I got twice that, but I had to write more.- PolishLogic, on 07/22/2008, -2/+17You lucky bastard!!
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -2/+9Geeze . . . I had to do all the work with the shouts and then I *still* had to buy the tee:
http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/item/i-smell-a-democ ...
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -6/+11Oh, I am doing this entirely for the personal satisfaction . . . my only regret being I cannot literally bury those brain-dead zombies which babble along in the trail of the obamessiah.
- ZeroSum1975, on 07/22/2008, -21/+11You know that's the truth! But this will get dugg down quickly.
- evilunleashed, on 07/22/2008, -23/+13Why should there be outrage for a person who has spewed from his own mouth more insulting and vile nonsense than this? I think it is totally without class, but I can say the same about almost every political cartoon I've ever seen. The political battlefield has always been the place to be if you are a foul, loathsome, scumbag. The ground of a pig pen contains more savory and inspiring content than the words of any politician and the so-called journalists and partisan sheep that pander to them. This is pretty mild in comparison to what gets put out by both sides. If you are offended by this then you should opt out of involvement in the political climate that fosters this behavior instead of picking one side and denying their own propaganda and vitriol while attempting to vilify the other side for doing the same thing.
- evilunleashed, on 07/22/2008, -13/+1See, call out the right-wing shills on their ***** and they want it buried (left-wing too, I have no allegiance to either, this case just happens to be the right-wing). Burying the ugly truth to make themselves look good is their game, always has been. Go ahead and cry for a foul while you're cheating as well. It only makes you look far more ridiculous.
- zombies187, on 07/22/2008, -3/+4"If you are offended by this then you should opt out of involvement in the political climate "
You could have stopped there. You have to be a real pussy for getting offended by a cartoon. The Obama cartoon was slammed as a poor excuse for satire in my world. This is the same. Political cartoons should have a point but almost all of them don't. Big shmeal. I bet it WILL hit the MSM because they always go over board trying to be the opposite of liberal. Hence the complete lack of opposition to the war in Iraq in the supposedly liberal media in the months leading up to that 'decision.'
- Falldog, on 07/22/2008, -24/+18Why should anyone get worked up over something that's been done a hundred times again?
& lol at all the "liberal" bashers. The MSM isn't left or right, they're biased toward stories that they can build up way beyond what they already are. There's no "outrage" over real issues. - frofisrael, on 07/22/2008, -24/+22"those goddamned overgrown Sixties weenie liberals who hate the flag, love the bomb-tossing enemies of America and are bent on the twin goals of ending the system of free enterprise and placing every aspect of our lives under government control." Many a truth has been spoken in jest and many in sarcasm.
- TYRONEBR549, on 07/22/2008, -28/+24Is McCain still in the race? I thought Hussien Obama was the only one running. Sarcasm
- highlymodified, on 07/22/2008, -17/+3I know you THINK you're being sarcastic... :)
- TYRONEBR549, on 07/22/2008, -1/+10According to the media he is the only one running.
- frofisrael, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4the media are like Mugabe supporters.
- emil1212, on 07/22/2008, -16/+36Reading all these comments that are dugg up, I feeel like I'm in a bizzaro digg.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 07/22/2008, -17/+21OH NOEZ!!! WHUT HAPPNS TO MAH KNEEJERK LeFT1ST 0BAMMALUVVIN EKO CHAMBERZZZ!!????
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -16/+22That's what happens when obscure right-wing websites make a push to get a story nobody else cares about to the frontpage. The result is a horde of publicity-motivated partisans posting and modding up every suportive comment, with no balance provided from digg's user base, who are unaware of the story until it is made popular.
- screamthenrun, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3this sort of thing actually happens on any political article... supporters digg as much as possible... and then when it reaches the front page it sorta almost evens out... but not quite
- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -3/+3someone give this baby a pacifier and shut him up.
awww shucks! I guess the posse missed the boat on this digg down brigade in time to stop the positive momentum that swung our way this time around. How lucky of us to escape the * unaware digg user base* from putting their usual ugly stamp all over our posts and expose of the truth.
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -21/+17Not only is this image hilarious, McCain's own comments about "gooks" imply that he endorses racial stereotyping.
- ssn697, on 07/22/2008, -8/+14making fun of torture is hilarious?
- wishninja, on 07/22/2008, -4/+8only in the Irony that most of his supporters want America to torture people.
- jcm267, on 07/22/2008, -4/+5McCain is against much of what the Bush Administration has permitted in Guantonomo, wish. But I don't consider the Islamic fundamentalists that are being tortured to be people anyways.
- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -2/+3at wish: I think you meant to say only at the irony that most of OB's suporters want it to appear as though Americans torture people. lol!!
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -14/+8No, equating the pitfalls of a presidential campaign to enhanced interrogation is hilarious.
- ssn697, on 07/22/2008, -8/+14making fun of torture is hilarious?
- GWBARNHOUSE, on 07/22/2008, -25/+23This might blow up in the face of the socialists. It is a good illustration about how hate filled the;y are.
- DuggDowner, on 07/22/2008, -22/+10 We all know McCain received special treatment as a POW. Buried as inaccurate.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -7/+8Not according to this fellow, and his Medal of Honor certainly trumps the endorsement of the masshole pussy with the three purple band aids, to say nothing of the BS coming out of kos, hufpost and other septic tanks.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Medal_of_Honor_r ... - Evilena, on 07/22/2008, -9/+8I think he fell in love with his Vietnamese Dominatrix and didn't want to leave her.
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -7/+8Not according to this fellow, and his Medal of Honor certainly trumps the endorsement of the masshole pussy with the three purple band aids, to say nothing of the BS coming out of kos, hufpost and other septic tanks.
- azAZ09, on 07/22/2008, -26/+21Wow, a whole friggin' bunch of conservative diggiots claiming bias --go figure. .
- Hetman, on 07/22/2008, -19/+29This is way worst than the Obama cover ran by the New Yorker. How can anyone believe this would be appropriate to run. Regardless of who you are voting for, one must have some respect for a man who served in Vietnam and was tortured repeadidly. You have the right to print what you like. But If they printed a picture mocking american soldiers being tortured in Iraq, there would be an out cry from the family members of those servicemen. And everyone would be all up in arms about how horrible and disrespectfull it is.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2Agreed.
I am anti-war. I protested Vietnam, I lost a brother in Vietnam.
After the disgusting display of Republicans wearing purple heart "bandaids" at the Republican convention to mock Kerry's service, no one on the right wing has any right to accuse anyone of not honoring veterans.
Mocking any veteran is ugly. It is shameful.- Salesti, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3But I have so much difficulty respecting a LYING veteran! A person who lies is mocking the truth. Purple band-aids are nothing when compared with lies such as Kerry's.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2Agreed.
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -33/+4dhimmicraps enemies of the USA Bigots Marxist!!! America haters like parasites they are attempting to kill [America] crack-smoking reds
- MisterWonderful, on 07/22/2008, -23/+18McCain loves the *****.
That's what I heard.- highlymodified, on 07/22/2008, -17/+9Actually, he seems to love plastic, drug-addicted, millionaire, 10-years-younger-than-current-model's pussy.
However, keep in mind Republicans only care about someone loving the ***** :D - LexieLove86, on 07/23/2008, -5/+5youre a complete and total idiot
- MisterWonderful, on 07/23/2008, -5/+3OMG, I'm like SOOOO pro-life! I'm like, totally conservative too!
Go back to facebook sweetheart. The conversations are easier there. - Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -3/+3At least she isn't homophobic like some of the ass kissers here
http://digg.com/users/LexieLove86/gallery/7520588/ ... - MisterWonderful, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4Yeah, thank god for Tila Tequila huh? It's so trendy now!
- MisterWonderful, on 07/23/2008, -5/+3OMG, I'm like SOOOO pro-life! I'm like, totally conservative too!
- highlymodified, on 07/22/2008, -17/+9Actually, he seems to love plastic, drug-addicted, millionaire, 10-years-younger-than-current-model's pussy.
- Hetman, on 07/22/2008, -12/+12I am not voting for McCain or Obama. Just so everyone is aware. If you vote for Obama and he gets elected and then ends up screwing things up you are responsible for that. If you vote for McCain and he ends up screwing things over you are responsible for that. They have both been known to flip-flop on issues. How they are our only two choices baffles me.
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -13/+3Not voting is equivalent to voting for whoever wins. It's a statement that you don't care enough about either candidate to vote AGAINST them.
- Hetman, on 07/22/2008, -6/+10I never said I was not voting. I said I am not voting for McCain or Obama.
- swrostmore, on 07/22/2008, -10/+2Same thing. One of the two is going to be President. Your position is that it doesn't matter to you which one it is, because you don't care enough to vote for or against them.
- Hetman, on 07/22/2008, -4/+7My position is this. The two party system has failed. Voting for McCain or Obama is wrong. I cannot in good conscious vote someone into office that I believe will fail. If you are capable of voting against your conscious that is fine. I am not.
- zombies187, on 07/22/2008, -5/+1One of the two guys will do a worse job. Not blocking the worse one makes you partly responsible for his election. I agree the system is broke. I voted third party a few times myself. But third parties are nothing more than protest votes and we all know how hard America listens to protesters.
- Hetman, on 07/22/2008, -2/+4I cannot do something I feel is wrong. That is the reason I disagree with torture in any circumstance. I cannot make a decisions that I feel is wrong. Morally I cannot vote for Obama, or McCain because niether of them have the policies or the attributes I beleive the president should have. Maybe I am part of the problem. But that would not be the first time.
- Hetman, on 07/22/2008, -2/+2And I also do live in Illinois. And I am not sure about much but I am like 95% sure that Obama is going to completely win Illinois.
- FritzKatz, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Hetman, good.
Voting your conscious is not throwing your vote away. If enough people vote for a third party -- it will become the first or second party.
- Lane, on 07/22/2008, -12/+23no one reads rolling stone, mystery solved!
- IconoclastStill, on 07/22/2008, -5/+9Well, most of their circulation is too stoned to vote, at least.
- wishninja, on 07/22/2008, -6/+1lol ha ha ha. neo-cons are so funny. on the drugs jokes man you just would kill them on def jam.
- wild, on 07/22/2008, -16/+16Hey, say what you want, McCain is the one that cheapened your online presence with his rewards for internet spamming.
- ssn697, on 07/22/2008, -22/+33That cartoon is, IMO, WAY more offensive than the Obama cartoon. The man was held for years, and tortured. Let's make a joke out of it? ***** disgusting.
- zorpscorp, on 07/22/2008, -17/+6No it's cool, he supports torture now!
- jcm267, on 07/22/2008, -4/+13But it's a knock against a Republican so you won't see much of it in the mainstream media unless Fox News makes a big enough fuss about it to pretty much force them.
- algaeturd, on 07/23/2008, -8/+0I think it's hilarious because McCain gave away a lot of secrets when he was held captive. And HE exploits the whole situation more than anyone. So why so serious? The guy is a lunatic. He may be some kind of hero but he's in NO WAY SHAPE or FORM qualified to be president.
- jcm267, on 07/23/2008, -0/+6What secrets did he give away?
- ssn697, on 07/23/2008, -0/+5Talking out your ass doesn't mean it is true. It DOES mean you are all *****.
To JCM's question: What secrets did he give away, or did you already scurry under the floor?
- highlymodified, on 07/22/2008, -24/+20Wow, I forgot there are people who actually care about John McCain's infinitely small chance of winning. Who knew all 20 of them are good at getting to "Upcoming Stories" so quickly?
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 07/22/2008, -12/+12Translation: D00D WHEREZ MY PROGRESSIVE DIGG ECHO CHAMBERZZZ???
- InfamousAtheist, on 07/22/2008, -12/+12This has got to be the LGF crowd, all descended on the one article they see that could cast McCain in a positive light in a matter of seconds.
They're all standing around waiting for good news about their candidate anyway.
Come on, rightards, bury me all you ***** want.- mmmmmbiscuits, on 07/22/2008, -8/+9Poor pissy little progressive tool...
Translation: HOW DARE CONSERVATIVES USE DIGG!!! DON'T THEY KNOWZ ITZ OBAMA COUNTRY???
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 07/22/2008, -8/+9Poor pissy little progressive tool...
- woodrow8292, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3Just remember "Dewey defeats Truman!" let's not start calling this thing until it's over.
- GuacamoleSan, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2The Obama cartoon was spreading the rumor that he was a terrorist and anti-American, this cartoon does nothing to spread false rumors.
- reed311, on 07/22/2008, -21/+29I had to bury because of the "leftist" MSM. It is laughable to suggest that the media is controlled by multi-billionaire tree-hugging, pot smoking, liberals. This is an offensive image, but not more offensive than Obama's. This makes fun of McCains time in prison, but the other one equates Obama as being a mass-murdering terrorist. (Even though it was satire, a lot of people aren't sharp enough to pick up on that).
- aliengoods, on 07/22/2008, -13/+8Not just that, but this one has Obama as one of the VC. Obama has as much right to be upset with this as McCain does.
- WiseWeasel, on 07/23/2008, -3/+3Wow, I didn't even notice that the guards were Obama, Hillary and someone else I can't decipher (W. Bush maybe?)... Agreed that it's equally offensive to them as to McCain. As for this story, the 'leftist MSM' diatribe also made me bury it, as that's more laughable than the comic in question.
- tykwondingo, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Good call.
- aliengoods, on 07/22/2008, -13/+8Not just that, but this one has Obama as one of the VC. Obama has as much right to be upset with this as McCain does.
- Telvin, on 07/22/2008, -19/+19who gives a flying *****?
- MonsterChaOS, on 07/22/2008, -17/+22By bitching about this aren't you just as bad as the left-wing hippy liberals you railed against for bitching about the Obama cover?
It's always someone else's fault eh?- tykwondingo, on 07/23/2008, -5/+2well said.
- justinx0r, on 07/23/2008, -2/+5No, it just showcases their hypocrisy by being outraged by Obama's image but not McCain's.
- MrDuke77, on 07/23/2008, -2/+3"By bitching about this aren't you just as bad as the left-wing hippy liberals you railed against for bitching about the Obama cover?"
That's beyond dense. Smoking way too much of the MJ I guess...
The liberal idiots at the NewYorker perpetrate a satyrical racist attack against their favored liberal candidateB.O., and then use it as fodder to rail against racist anti-obama attacks from the right.
IF the cover mocking McCain's torture was on the cover of Limbaugh's Newsletter, or WND, or Newsmax, THEN you would've been on point. The disgusting aspect of BOTH mean-spirited UNFUNNY cartoons is that they were BOTH put out there by liberal retards, yet only the Obama one was forcefully denounced while the McCain one was ignore...even though it was BY FAR the most offensive of the two. Detox YES! - Evilena, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3You know someone is living in the past when they start blaming problems on the hippies.
- ieee, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Good god yes!
I find it ironic that republicans who make a big noise about personal responsibility still blame Clinton for all of our woes when they had complete control of the federal government for 6 years.
- ieee, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Good god yes!
- politicosick, on 07/22/2008, -16/+18Isn't this really offensive to Asians? How do you think they feel with the stretched out faces supposed to resemble them? The commy liberals probably say it is ok in this case because it is to win the contest against the republicans.
- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/22/2008, -6/+5Show me one person saying that. If you cant your statement is just ***** and made only to stir up anger and hatred. You probably beat children and molest kittens. You see how easy that is...
- XenonofArcticus, on 07/22/2008, -17/+11I think the distinction is that this cartoon does little to 'confuse' voters. McCain WANTS to beat into people his I-was-tortured history, because it makes him more of a badass. I doubt McCain minds this cartoon at all, especially if it portrays Hillary and Obama as slimey North Vietnamese. Implying that Obama is a muslim terrorist, even satirically, is pretty shaky ground, given that that is exactly what Obamas opponents would like middle America to believe.
- slyweazel, on 07/22/2008, -13/+19When did Digg turn into conservapedia? Either way, the cartoon is very tasteless.
- WiseWeasel, on 07/23/2008, -7/+4When it got linked to the Bury Brigade crowd... Keep in mind that McCain's campaign pays for positive social media placement, so there's money at stake here.
- RavenRed, on 07/22/2008, -14/+6lol mccain looks like rambo.
- hwy61revisited, on 07/22/2008, -11/+17I know this was probably only intended as a jab at McCain (which still doesn't justify it), but this cartoon is disrespectful to any Vietnam vet. Make that ANY vet, period. It's also a bit racist...I'm sure the artist was drawing the Vietnamese in caricature but like everything else about this cartoon, it's tasteless.
"Just a cartoon"? Yes, I know the artist is exercising his right of free speech but this cartoon crosses the line.- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/22/2008, -5/+5What is the "line"? What you find offensive? Whose "line" should we go by? When you start creating limits you put people in control of those limits. Soon enough the "line" gets pushed around.
I'm sorry you are offended but the world doesnt revolve around you. We are a country of individuals you cant dictate what I can and cannot see.- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/23/2008, -4/+4This is why I love Digg. Instead of trying to show me how the first amendment should go away people just push a red button because they dont like what they hear. A chance for discourse is blown because people are too lazy or too stupid to argue their opinion.
- tykwondingo, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2My thoughts exactly oMeSSiaHo.
- allisonrose870, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4your just too stupid to argue with. it would undoubtedly be a fruitless endeavor to engage discourse with a close minded fool like yourself. a total hypocrite because the digg down brigade didn't get to taint and tarnish this expose of the liberal media bias that blatantly exists. The cartoon is tasteless - bottom line and consensus, but this article is also about the unfair playing field in the liberal dominated MSM and how its hurting this country.
At least nobody has called for the cartoonists beheading and violent protests to ensue immediately!
get over it! - Salesti, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4A lot of people were offended by that sock monkey thing too. Nobody got beheaded there either, but it sure did crack me up! The stupid racist routine never even crossed my mind, but I DID notice that Obama, by golly, looks almost exactly like that sock monkey!
It was much *less* tasteless than the cartoon, but drew EVER so much more venom! Especially from the anti-free-speech crowd.
- oMeSSiaHo, on 07/22/2008, -5/+5What is the "line"? What you find offensive? Whose "line" should we go by? When you start creating limits you put people in control of those limits. Soon enough the "line" gets pushed around.
- wishninja, on 07/22/2008, -12/+12For some kind of fairness McCain also denounced the Obama cartoon and the last on the record was Obama. McCain responded and the press responded to the cartoon. So it is not a result of Obama doing anything other than shrugging and saying that was a pretty crappy thing.
On the other hand McCain has used his torture experience in most of his commercials characterizing who he is to the American public. He makes that an important part of his campaign. If he is going to be the "vote for me because I was tortured" candidate these things will come up.- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -7/+3Yes, the Republicans felt it was OK to Swiftboat Kerry. Dance around with purple heart bandaids. That was very tastefull.
Double standard anyone?- userperson, on 07/23/2008, -0/+7So it's okay to be tactless as long as other people started it, got it.
- shupy, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1No it isn't okay to be tactless. A double standard means that what is not ok for one side is not ok for the other side. The bandaid stunt was a pathetic display at the Republican national convention, and the party should be ashamed. The McCain cartoon was the act of one publication, it was stupid and tasteless.
But it was not something sanctioned by the Democratic leadership on the floor of the Democratic convention. There is a big difference.
- shupy, on 07/23/2008, -7/+3Yes, the Republicans felt it was OK to Swiftboat Kerry. Dance around with purple heart bandaids. That was very tastefull.
- 10stackz, on 07/22/2008, -15/+5I got my shovel handy here but here we go:
I don't think republicans and democrats should be referred to as the far left of far right anymore.
The terms in which they should be referred to are Fascist(neo-cons) and Marxist(dems).
- tykwondingo, on 07/23/2008, -5/+1sounds about right.
- WiseWeasel, on 07/23/2008, -5/+1More like Would-Be Fascists A and Would-Be Fascists B. Marxism implies public benefit.
- auricomnet, on 07/22/2008, -8/+10My grandfather died in a POW camp in Vietnam, I can't believe how offensive this is.
- spkrcity, on 07/22/2008, -7/+0And nothing of value was lost.
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