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- miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -3/+222"No Child Left Behind" policy means standards are lowered. They teach to the lowest common denominator, are afraid of competition, tests and failures. Smart kids will be bored, unmotivated and will hate the school experience. Kids will not be taught to think or reason , but "cooperate" and team-build. Sounds good--for basketball. Not for learning.
- vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -3/+140Doh! Maybe we should have left this power to the state governments since each state has its own needs. An across the board solution for everyone won't work.
- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -3/+93DUH. All no child left behind does is punish the smart kids. It takes away their advanced classes and forces them into the classroom with the idiots that ask so many questions no learning even takes place.
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -2/+56I'm still in school, so I'm living it.
Just like everyone else, I ***** hate it. All it does is slows down learning and makes things more complicated. Every teacher I have asked also said they hate it. - instruisto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44I am a teacher in a gifted program and I hate NCLB. I hate the way I have to teach to satisfy the requirements of this idiotic program. I have 81 grade-level expectations that I have to hit. My entire work-year comes down to a three-hour exam. In order to cram in all the test-prep I have had to cut back on the creative projects that were once the mainstay of gifted education. I hope that NCLB will die off he way that other edufads have met their fates over the decades. Ron Paul would eliminate this bureaucratic nonsense along with the Department of Education. If Ron Paul seems different from the other candidates it might be his unique perspective in Washington called "common sense."
- noahhoward, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39It's called 'No Child Too Far Out Front' get it right people.
- Mishka, on 10/10/2007, -0/+31In the words of George Carlin "It wasn't that long ago that we were trying to give kids a 'Head Start.' 'Head Start,' 'Left Behind,' someones losing ground here."
- santaliqueur, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28would OF? A product of no child left behind, commenting on its failures. Delicious.
- aerogant, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24Our students went from 1st place in the world before the department of education, to 21st place today 50 years of the department of education.
- slmndr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24It is time to deep-six this moronic plan. It is also time to shake up/break up teachers unions. No more tenure based pay/incentives. Pay them a fair wage to begin with and move them to a performance based compensation structure. Part of the responsibility of being a teacher is figuring out how to connect with the students and identify how each student learns and what special needs exist (for remedial AND advanced). Parents need to be woken up too. Homework is intended to be done at home. The teachers don't follow kids home to monitor their work and answer questions, parents are supposed to do this. Shirking this duty only sends the message that homework isn't important.
Personal example: My nephew lived with my wife and me for a couple of years. He brought home low marks on his progress report because he was lying about his homework load and didn't turn any of it in when he did do it. My wife started going to school every day visiting all of his teachers at the end of the day to collect homework assignments. We made ourselves available to make sure he sat down and did the work and to answer questions. By the end of the semester and all through the next semester his grades were A's and B's. Visits to the school and constant eyes on monitoring were no longer necessary. We didn't use threats or yelling or intimidation, we just set the expectation and proved that we were prepared to follow up. He has since gone to live with other relatives who take no responsibility to monitor him and he brought home 3 F's and the rest C's and D's list last semester.
There are far too many parents who think their responsibility for a child's education ends at the bus stop. - Urusai, on 10/10/2007, -8/+30I said this from day one. A simple rule of thumb is that if Bush proposes or supports a plan, it sucks. This is no different than Nixon's health plan being a Trojan horse for ruining health care. NCLB is a Trojan horse for creating Fox News viewers.
- thefirstenemy, on 10/10/2007, -13/+33Good thin you're good at math, because you suck at English.
- overkilpro, on 10/10/2007, -5/+24if you are going to comment on someone's english at least check for typos
- OneHine, on 10/10/2007, -9/+27Wow, who would have guessed? This is as completely unexpected as the idea that setting an incompetent political crony at the head of FEMA wouldn't help people. Or the idea that faith-based initiatives would result in favoring certain religious positions over others, thus violating the First Amendment. I'd better vote for Bush again--these mistakes just could never have been anticipated and I'm SURE he won't make any other eensy-weensy little errors on his watch.
/neo-con - Yamoth, on 10/10/2007, -6/+24wow, no one would of guessed that.
- NSResponder, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19What? A sweeping, ham-fisted, government initiative, carried out by incompetent bureaucrats has unintended consequences? Stop the presses! That's NEVER happened before!
-jcr - JimXugle, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19As a current high school student here in the USA....
No ***** Sherlock. - tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16This isn't just a Bush-bad article. Remember that there were some prominent dems behind this too, like Kennedy.
- davidlow, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18It's in the name, People: When you don't leave someone behind it means you stop and wait for him. If there's a whole group everybody waits. Everyone only progresses as fast as the slowest person. They certainly named this law correctly.
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18Right before the elections, we have jackasses like you who think they know everything.
- idontlikeyou2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Every child left behind...
- DooM, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15I 'thing' its very funny -- you'd think you'd double-check a post of that kind of indictment for typos...
- cosmotic, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Who else things its funny that all these 'students' are commenting on this saying how they are smart and in advanced classes etc, yet they can't even spell/use grammar/type?
- wil2200, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14that is exactly the problem...cause I lived it...parents do not want to do a god damn thing and they are ready to jump on your throat when their kid don't pass. And whats worse is having a principal that sides with the parents. The principal told me ever since i started teaching, more students have been failing (none of these students had a teacher in over 2 months)..these were a bunch of high school students who can't even add or multiply, say the word fraction and its like you are killing them
The principal indirectly told me that kids need to pass no matter what.
They fired me when I didn't pass the lazy ass pricks that don't do anything. I wanted to make a difference, but now ***** it. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14No child left a dime.
- SealHammer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14As a middle-school above average student in the US, I have to agree that No Child Left Behind has been choking the more creative minds in schools, sometimes literally, leading to a complete dissatisfaction with education. If you want other children to have a better chance at learning, put them in a different class. I have been forced into the same classrooms with retarded(very much so) kids who, while I am not against asking questions, ask so many questions and have so little grammatical skills that it sometimes takes five minutes to decipher, "HOW DO I SPELL DAT."
Basically, NCLB is babying the children in schools, and not letting them learn for themselves, they're having crap that they've already learned FORCED DOWN THEIR THROATS so that George Bush can grin and say, "I did something people approved of :]"
The reason drop-out rates are so high is because half of high school dropouts are kids who couldn't stand having to learn ***** that they learned when they were in elementary school.
George Bush is an idiot, Dick Cheney is heartless, Fox News, Fight the Man, etc. - bonesaw, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15As a conservative republican who doesn't back bush...Only one person on this mentioned that dems had a part in this as well? Digg makes everything into a partisan issue and inevitably boils down to fox news or bush bashing... I say you a-holes are guilty of what you claim fox news does...only sees what they want.
- Cyberen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Sorry to hear that, pal. At least you didn't sacrifice your integrity to appease someone else. Good job.
- JSchroeder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12I'm also a teacher, and I also hate NCLB. Identifying minimum requirements and mandating that 100% of students (yes, 100%) meet these requirements by the middle of the next decade funnels the teachers' efforts to the low end of the student population. Renegade teachers, who choose to "waste" resources on students who are there to learn by "leaving behind" those uninterested, are identified as "failing."
As a side note, a policy started by our new principal last year confirmed (for me) the existence of another problem with NCLB. For the first time, students taking the test (10th graders in Wisconsin) had a major incentive. If they received "advanced" or "proficient" in any subject, they got to exempt from the final exam in that subject. Scores jumped dramatically across all subjects. In other words, a large percentage of students were not trying on the tests in previous years. How can we accurately judge schools based on these test data? - gta3mobster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12At least with the basketball you can continue to improve a skill the more you work at it... In comparison to being assigned work that you already know how to complete.
I did hate my high school experience. I was bored and unmotivated.
My last year I missed over 40 days of school 2nd semester and still got a B average. During my days off I slept until noon, then either read books on networking/programming or fiddled around on Ubuntu. I have to say that was much more enjoyable than listening to the teacher drone for 50 minutes. The most pathetic part is even when I did show up for school it was a waste of my time. All I did was hand in the assignments (which didn't require you to attend class to complete. Well, I knew the topics at least) and stare at the floor.
The problem with the "advanced" courses schools offer is there is way too much homework. I don't understand why people have to do the same thing one hundred times over. Perhaps they could encourage students to understand the work instead of assigning tedious assignments. - JSchroeder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I like how you start your comment by suggesting the slowed progress is because of the Mexicans. Very subtle. Nice touch.
- PamalaLauren, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11This is why I plan to home school. And yes I'm getting a degree in Early Childhood Development so I'm prepared to teach.
- Rahodeb, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12And what are we going to replace "school" with? I'ts easy to say something sucks, how about you tell us what would be better, because I'm pretty sure kids staying home and watching tv all day won't help anything.
- jasonherron, on 08/10/2008, -0/+10Thus, why I'm in private school. :)
Seriously, school is useful, but not when you're lowering the bar to 3rd grade level stuff for high school students. There are people who are 16 who still can barely read in some of the high schools near me... That's just sad!
This way, not one child is left behind-- they all progress, but none of them can do anything... - izzybr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Oh...so everything else Bush has done has been a smashing success right? And the neo-cons had everything right?
Do you pay attention to the world around you, or do you just listen to the standard right wing talking points. - fantasticFlan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Right before the election an election is about to be held. When's the election?
- Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I totally agree. Our current system of education is just plain crappy.
But it's probably not going to go away. To many idiot parents in the world who can't see what is the best way to go. - segfaultxr7, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Sorry if I come across as being coarse, but I think you could benefit from an English course.
- diggumjonez, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10they're trying to digg you down, but you're on the money. take a look at most of Bush's plans and proposals and you'll find the actual outcome was the exact opposite of the family-friendly "name." No Child Left Behind, Clean Skies Act, Whatever the debacle over the alaskan wildlife refuge drilling was called, Operation Enduring Freedom.
and on and on. Please supply some counter-examples where Bush was a major player or supporter of a bill that hasn't been named some ***** soundbite that actually accomplished, as its primary goal, that same function. - diggbot7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Wah, wah, wah - Bush isn't so terrible - wah,wah wah.
Tell it to the Devil, moron. - clickmyface, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I'm not surprised, this is not shocking, it's not new news. Teachers all over the place told this administration this was going to happen. It was clear right away that they were right.
I use to be interested in politics a great deal, I had aspirations to perhaps do more than just vote, I use to watch the news, the daily show, and colbert. This guy in office is an idiot and I don't enjoy all the things I listed before because so much is about him and his *****. - AeonTorpor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I'm living with it too. The current high school grads are now 18-ish and working retail. The amount of complete tards that i work with is just astronomical.
- miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11It's not funny, it's sad. The kids posting here is a GOOD sign --they have confidence to speak and express themselves, that they actually CARE about news sites, and have an opinion. The SAD part is, they are unwitting victims of the "no child" policy in that they can SPEAK, but not WRITE their own language. Grammar, effective writing, spelling, phonics--not much emphasis put on these anymore. They're too busy with "child-centered", "hands-on" learning: everyone passing around a muffin and talking about their FEELINGS! Reason and analysis are too complex for the majority and its all about "Me Me ME and how "I feel".
- hoserjoe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Don't forget that at least half the surgeons graduated in the bottom half of the class
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10While I am not a fan of the "lets throw more money at it" type solutions, I think the "let cut their funding" approach is just as bad or even worse. A public school's students test poorly so they cut federal funding, and expect the school to improve with even less. I think the NCLB was just a ploy to get federal money to private schools in the form of vouchers.
- AllanX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Sure, sucks for creating the next generation of scientists and engineers, but GREAT for preparing young squads of future soldiers. And that's the only pressing need the US has anymore. Right?
- expertninja, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Take a summer coarse in English next please.
- JohnFlux, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Good grief. You were a teacher? You should ask some of your old pupils to help you with your English. These new whizz kids even know where the punctuation marks are!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9What do you expect? One of the authors was Ted Kennedy.
- DooM, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I watch Fox on a daily basis for as long as I can stand it - in my view, and yes I'm a liberal (NOT a Democrat) and I'm not afraid of that tag, you have to know what crap the 'enemy' is spewing. I watch Olbermann and even CNN when I can stand it, although, their product is just boring crap - at least Fox is chuckling funny. So, I'll agree with you that it's important to hear issues from all sides - but that doesn't make Fox a legitimate news source.
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