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- johndavidjack, on 07/01/2008, -8/+46If you guys haven't noticed, the war hasn't been in the news lately.
Guess that's what happens when half of the politicians, media members, and idiots within our country want the war to fail so they can take credit for "being right", and blaming Bush.
Progress is progress, and I am glad something is coming out of a very difficult and questionable situation.
Definitely dugg, but I doubt it'll make the front. - asw0210, on 07/01/2008, -7/+41Give victory a chance.
- abran1984, on 07/01/2008, -11/+41This has no chance in hell of making Digg front page
- strictnein, on 07/01/2008, -7/+36If you're wondering how to write a news article to make good news become bad news, follow Anne Flaherty's lead.
- kuatto, on 07/01/2008, -12/+39this is bad news for the defeatists
- diamondbigdog, on 07/01/2008, -4/+28So the surge, that has been going on for over a year (as long as Obama has been in the race) was just in time?
A cynical person would wonder why the MSM fails to report the great news out of Iraq when an election is approaching... - duggitt4u, on 07/01/2008, -0/+17Excellent point.
- OC73, on 07/01/2008, -13/+30McCain should hammer Obama over his alleged "good judgement" in believing we were better off with a terrorist dictator ruling Iraq.
(Cue rabid responses from Saddam apologists.) - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -5/+22Forget it. The democrats would wave the white flag if we were 18 for 18. Like Lieberman said, "They have a vested interest in retreat and defeat." All of the surge troops are back by the way. QED General Petraeus.
- inboxnews, on 07/02/2008, -1/+18I blame Bush for success in Iraq.
- DavidHalko, on 07/02/2008, -2/+17amightywind --- "Forget it. The democrats would wave the white flag if we were 18 for 18"
Yep. That is what happened in Vietnam.
The war was ended, peace accord signed, and when the Communists broke the peace, the Democrats decided not to defend the South with the Air Support that was promised... just in time to lose a war that was already won!
We only know, years after the war, that the air support helped achieve the first victory, before the Democratic Congress lost the war with denying the Southern Vietnamese people the air support necessary for them to remain free... making the American blood shed for naught. - angusm, on 07/02/2008, -1/+13It's amusing to learn that one of the key milestones relates to measures to allow former members of the Ba'ath party to regain their jobs and pensions. And why did they lose their jobs and pensions in the first place? Why, that would be because of the sweeping de-Ba'athification measures imposed by US viceroy Paul Bremer in 2003, against the advice of the CIA.
I wonder how many of the other milestones involve requiring the Iraqi government to undo the damage we've done in the last five years. - TRMarchesano, on 07/02/2008, -1/+13Juts how does something make it to the front page of Digg?
- chrome327, on 07/05/2008, -1/+12Is a "No Bid Contract for Exxon/Mobile" one of those benchmarrks?
- onyxcoltrane, on 07/05/2008, -2/+13I thought I heard Bush say Misssion Accomplished in 2003. It's too bad we were manipulated into this misadventure, wasted so many lives and $500 billion, and took our eye off Afghanistan where the Taliban is flourishing again. And where is bin Laden? And now after 5 years Bush is giving himself a satisfactory grade. Talk about setting a low bar.
- bbwolf7, on 07/05/2008, -1/+12Let's ask the Iraqis' opinion.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+11Far as I am concerned, The Iraq War has been a smashing success. An example, The Korean War had 24,000 US soldiers killed-in-action in 2 YEARS!!
- tkstock, on 07/02/2008, -1/+12Had Bush taken the advice of McCain, the surge would have been earlier.
The war strategy was messed up for a while. The enemy was underestimated and we were spread too thin. Now that the new strategy is working and it appears things are coming around as planned, I would expect the MSM to report very little about the successes, but if they do it will be in the context of how bad things were in the past. - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+10The AP writers e-mail ANNE FLAHERTY at aflaherty@ap.org
- Jakeman21co, on 07/02/2008, -5/+15I have friends and family that have served in Iraq, and they have all told me that people are glad we are there, and positive thing are happening. I am glad there is finally some recognition that our troops have done, and are doing, a great job.
Support our troops no matter what side of the issue you are on! - madfrogurt, on 07/03/2008, -0/+9I know that we all like seeing complex issues brought down to the level of a numbers game, but the 3 of 18 issues not moving towards "satisfactory" are pretty big:
1) the disarmament of the local militias (which have been responsible for neighborhood ethnic cleansing and intimidation),
2) the strength of the Iraqi army for fighting these militias (and foreign fighters entering the country to take part in the Sunni/Shiite infighting)
3) the sharing of oil revenues occurs to stop the political bickering and infighting
Soon as these goals are actually met (and not just "satisfactory." I mean really met) then we should be able to get the vast majority of our troops out of the country. I want this to happen, but I think everyone paying attention for the last 5 years has heard "turning the corner" and "last throes" enough times to be pessimistic. - rtl924, on 07/02/2008, -9/+18If Harry Reid wasn’t so sick from the gas and coal, he could read this article.
Disregard, Harry wouldn’t read the truth anyway. - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8Maybe she should write a story about the major drop in casualty rates in Iraq by noting the slight increase in casualty rates in Afghanistan.
Oh wait... - jamesotis, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8If that were a bumper sticker, I'd show it proudly. Ditto "I Blame Bush for Victory in Iraq"
- SoyJames, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9Mission Satisfactory.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -6/+12I have no idea what the ***** statues have to do with anything, but judging from your childish stalking of me, since I pointed out your errors, neither do you.
Grow the ***** up, and get over the fact that you were wrong, multiple times. Hell, I was wrong, right here on Digg the other day, and guess what? I just posted that I was wrong.
You however, stalk me, crying like a bitch. Grow the ***** up, grow a pair, and move on. Jesus, you couldn't act any more like a ***** left wing liberal. Show you where you are wrong, and you turn into a stalking whiny bitch. - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6RotFLMAo!
- swrostmore, on 07/02/2008, -4/+10Great news, time to declare victory and get out.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7Bing!
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -9/+14What military success is that? Where you are losing the war in Afghanistan or where now so many Iraqis have fled the country the killing has actually subsided?
- gox35, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7What was it he said? Mission Accomplished?
- kigcoopa84, on 07/02/2008, -2/+7So since the war is no longer a "disaster" i guess its time you found something else to blame on Bush... It's too bad the president has to take into account the far left's propaganda when making military decisions because if he didn't maybe we would have seen the surge before midterm elections...
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -14/+18A cynical person would note that the war languished for years, with Bush unwilling to do what was necessary after the 2004 elections.
But, as the 2008 elections were approaching, he was suddenly willing to listen to the generals, and implement a plan, JUST in time for the war to look really good, just before elections.
But, that would be a cynical persons view... - Stevanoski, on 07/02/2008, -8/+12How many statues are built to honor cynics? Hmmmm, none, not many awards handed out either. Guess their value to the world is close to nil.
- DavidHalko, on 07/02/2008, -2/+6"Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C., who requested the administration's updated assessment, scoffed at the May report"
Is he is one of those North Carolina Democratic Party Satan Worshipers?
http://digg.com/politics/Democrat_Official_Kidnap_ ... - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -3/+7The surge would take nine months to a year to work. Why, when all the generals asked for the same troop support 3 years earlier, wasn't it given?
I'm just sayin...
I am pissed that this war was ***** up by Bush for so long. It could have been won much more quickly, had he and his cabinet heeded the advice of the MILITARY. You know, the people who know how to do these things. I still vividly remember a General testifying before Congress, saying we had to have more troops. Remember that? He was booted for it. - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3The AP writers e-mail ANNE FLAHERTY aflaherty@ap.org
- barcelona10, on 07/02/2008, -7/+10I am cynical I guess by your standards... You wont see this story on CNN or MSNBC. What a lapse in responsibility on their part! I'm not advocating the war but I am advocating for HONEST coverage, something we do not get in the U.S.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -7/+10Meanwhile violence in Afgahnistan increased. It's almost as if the people we're looking for are capable of moving. Hmm. . .
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3...and yet we capitulated on hard-won ground.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4Regardless your prior opinions (about this war), this is good news. The real question is: How long will this last?
- LadyAmerica, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Yup, you nailed it. Harry-the-war-is-lost-Reid, surrender-is-us majority leader!
- LadyAmerica, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2@kizilbash
THIS military success...
"American and Iraqi forces are driving Al-Qaeda in Iraq out of its last redoubt in the north of the country in the culmination of one of the most spectacular victories of the war on terror.
After being forced from its strongholds in the west and centre of Iraq in the past two years, Al-Qaeda’s dwindling band of fighters has made a defiant “last stand” in the northern city of Mosul.
A huge operation to crush the 1,200 fighters who remained from a terrorist force once estimated at more than 12,000 began on May 10."
(Source: Iraqis lead final purge of Al-Qaeda (M.Colvin, UK Sunday Times 7-6-08. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/a ... ) - allowners, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4Good little puppet.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -2/+4Nice job with your generalities and labeling. Does that comfort you?
I spent 6 years in the Navy, 4 on submarines. I voted for Reagan. Go ahead now, tell me how I am a left wing liberal again.
I blame Bush for ***** up this war for so many years, ignoring the advice of military minds, along with Afghanistan. I blame him for spending like he never saw an increase he didn't like. Don't like it? TOUGH *****.
Stupid ***** stick. - KMye, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2@beaker
I agree with your sentiments in general, except regarding the choice of going into Iraq being a colossal strategic blunder. This is something I don't think I've brought up on digg before, but it's definitely something that's stuck in my mind and when my (as-yet-unconceived, that I know about) kids ask me about the Iraq war, I'll tell them:
I remember at least 4-6 months or so before the invasion started, hearing just *one* snippet on a cable news channel of a pundit telling people to be ready for a ramp-up in anti-Iraq propaganda preparing the American people to go to war. That stuck in my mind from that day - but even given that, and understanding the nature of most of the news coming out - I thought there were strong enough strategic arguments, along with some of the more public justifications such as liberating the Iraqi people from Saddam and his sons, and the potential threat of WMD, - which even Saddam's generals thought Iraq possessed until shortly before the war - to justify a war that was evidently legal under UN law.
From what I've seen, the real tragedy has been that Bush A) appointed Rumsfeld as SecDef, B) was too weak, uninformed, and unintelligent to pose any challenges to Rumsfeld's policy decisions (most likely exacerbated to Cheney's over-strong influence) and C) appointed others, primarily Rice and Powell, who, although exceedingly bright, were too weak, especially in a bureaucratic sense, to provide any real balance within the cabinet.
I strongly recommend that anyone who's truly interested in the lead-up to OIF, it's execution, and the early occupation afterward read "Cobra II." It's extremely objective, and if nothing else, had me ecstatically hopeful the first day Patraeus was put in charge. - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Fr/AP in 2008JUL02 "Savannah Morn News" [print verz] ☞
(headline) "Slow Pace of Iraqi Officials Still at Issue"
(subhead) "Report: Military Progress `Satisfactory´—Most Benchmarks Met"
I dunno . . . seems as if they should be reversed. - OC73, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2I agree. In fact, it's too bad Truman lost his balls after nuking Japan. Had he followed through on General Macarthur's plan to nuke the ChiComs, not only would the entire korean peninsula be free and prosperous, but the vietnam war would've never occurred.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -3/+4The AP writers e-mail ANNE FLAHERTY at aflaherty@ap.org
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