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- Bluerayusa, on 02/14/2008, -3/+124I pay taxes, i would like to know what the hell they are doing. There are too many things going on that we aren't aware of, after all i would think that if their misconduct were to be hidden from public they will be more willing to act inappropriately because the public will not know. Don't we all act more appropriately when we are being watched?
- Ph0tios, on 02/14/2008, -2/+95Since when do police need to be protected from the public? It seems more and more that we need someone to protect us from them, and if that can only come in the form of an attorney, than so be it.
- AlexPod, on 02/14/2008, -3/+81Paving the way for a police state much?
- Inquisition, on 02/14/2008, -3/+62I am beginning to expect things like this lately. Sneaky wiretaps, data-mining the internet, immunity for law-breaking corporations, etc.....
It is no less surprising that those in authority are desperate to keep power at any cost; even our freedom. - inactive, on 02/14/2008, -2/+52I cop friend of mine told me he believes 75% of all police reports contain fabrications to support the arrest.
I'll bet it is more........ - inactive, on 02/14/2008, -1/+39How many nails in our coffin before we decide to be the ones holding the hammer?
- Napoleone, on 02/14/2008, -2/+31If you're a police officer and you're engaging in misconduct, your testimony should rightfully be considered suspect.
The powerful are consolidating their power and colluding against the increasingly defenseless. Yeah, I've been shot at. I've seen friends lose their lives to gun violence. But this time more than ever I am grateful for the 2nd Amendment. - sullyj, on 02/14/2008, -1/+26This just in. The police can now legally kill you in your sleep. And now back to Big Brother 45.
- principle, on 02/14/2008, -2/+26First police, then government officials, corporate leaders, wealthy, etc., to be treated as a new class of people who are above reproach. And who is to decide where the line is?
- Reavie, on 02/14/2008, -1/+23Next on the agenda: Secret Police.
- phnx0221, on 02/14/2008, -6/+22No. Absolutely not. There is no way that our congress can continue to work against us so brazenly. Not only have they provided immunity against lawsuit by the telecom companies who have provided customer call and email data to the NSA and the Bush Administration for their warrantless wiretapping program, but they are also working to classify people who are organizing in protest and dissent (whether by protest, gatherings, or mass dissemination of information), but now they are considering to allow the misconduct of police officers (read, tasering, pepper spray, assault, wrongful arrest, threats, harassment) to be hidden from the public as well?!
I've been just as adamantly critical of this government, and it's erosions of our constitutional and civic rights as the next person, for us, and for those abroad, but at some point, regardless of how much you know, and how much you read and discuss, the question begs to be ask....what in the hell is happening to this country?! - Locke23, on 02/14/2008, -0/+16Anyone feel like joining me in reading 1984 for old time sakes?
- ZxEfR, on 02/14/2008, -1/+15As if this isn't the policy already.
- Stochio, on 02/14/2008, -3/+16whisky tango foxtrot
- solesoul, on 02/14/2008, -0/+12Because the actions of one state never have an effect on the other states. Your statement is exactly the kind of statement that will lead us on a path to ruin. Do as your told, don't ask any questions, and shut up: the police are here.
- eddy23170, on 02/14/2008, -0/+11i wonder if it they will withold the report of some disgruntled citizen enacting revenge on a crooked cop...
- AngelBunny, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1175% sounds high, but it depends on the subject of the arrest. If it is a highway patrol arrest, for example, I bet it is higher than 75%. If someone is arrested for fighting with someone else, I'm sure it is a lot lower than 75%. Either way, you would be surprised what lies I've seen officers have said before.
- sansri88, on 02/14/2008, -3/+14Are they crazy? Warrantless wiretapping, immunity for the telcos, then this? Are we working our way towards a totalitarian type government?
- danielplainview, on 02/14/2008, -0/+10I am Jacks dissolving apathy
- USAOwnz, on 02/14/2008, -0/+10I stand corrected. Still should be stopped, it's *****. And I'm sure it goes against the Freedom of Information Act.
- actionscripted, on 02/14/2008, -0/+10Yes, great. Let's remove what little accountability the cops have. Great idea.
I hope when I'm 70 I don't look back on this decade and say to my grand kids, "Well, the new millennium was right about when our country learned how to ***** itself." - actionscripted, on 02/14/2008, -1/+10Yea, where have you been?
- maeon3, on 02/14/2008, -0/+9Our children and great grand children will curse our names for letting this country de-volve like way it is without any fight at all. I wish there is something I could do to help.
- USAOwnz, on 02/14/2008, -4/+13No, it's not. Did you see the video, they say it's being debated in CAPITAL HILL. In case you don't know where that is, it is in Washington DC, not Salt Lake City.
- Frnnkdlxx, on 02/14/2008, -0/+8There's no way I can let them get away with this. There's no way ANY of us can. We have to mobilize to take this down. We've allowed them to spy, we've allowed them to torture, we've allowed them to wage war and pardon criminals. But we can't allow them to grant police superman powers. This would be the deathknell to the police state. Oh.... And in case you're one of those weird trolls who hate anyone who is even remotely anti establishment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nibTHkAyhsg
Aw screw it. Isn't police corruption grand!
http://www.youtube.com/results?uploaded=w&search_q ... - Genshinx, on 02/14/2008, -0/+8Police state here we come!
- reiner15, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7What the ***** is wrong with this country...
- heystoopid, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7forgotten much about how prohibition came to the Amerika !
Or as Benjamin Franklin once said "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - maiku00, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7this is unbelievable
how do these crazies get in power? - nihilite, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7Dude, you're really not thinking this through. How could we have a respectable gestapo without these laws? We'd be the laughing stock of every violently oppressive regime!
- Smoove, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7Right! If police misconduct discredits police testimony in court, how about jailing the bad cops? No, the obvious solution is for the ***** POLICE DEPARTMENT to cover up misconduct.
Whoever thought of this one should be executed as a traitor to the Constitution. - spyd3rweb, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7This doesn't encourage police misconduct at all... /s
- cidman2001, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7Utah law or not, this is a dangerous idea that should be a wake up call for every American. Let the police police themselves? What a scary idea! This country and our freedoms are based on intentional checks and balances. That's why we have three seperate branches of the government Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Civics 101....
- thinman1189, on 02/14/2008, -1/+7I'm finally convinced that the mercury in vaccines cause retardation, there's just no ***** way to have this level of mental instability on such a large scale without some horrible birth-defect-causing catalyst be present throughout the entire country.
- bradcrc, on 02/14/2008, -1/+7jesus ***** christ. This country is turning into something like a bad Schwartzenegger movie... it can't be real... can it?
- tabularosa, on 02/14/2008, -0/+6Television is the most powerful psychological weapon the world has ever seen. We are being enured to violence by the ubiquitous, mindnumbing, tripe, that passes for escapist entertainment. The consolidated, corporate, conservative media doesn't cover the news, as much as they cover-up the news.
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance. And people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government without information or the means of aquiring it, is prologue to farce and tragedy, or perhaps both." - President James Madison, Aug. 4, 1822
"If a nation expects to be ignorant & free... it expects what never was and never will be." President Thomas Jefferson
The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." - William Colby, Director of the C.I.A. He drowned in a suspicous "canoe crash" while cooking supper in Washington D.C. - Ganesh420, on 02/14/2008, -1/+7All it takes is one state to set the precedent and then Congress can say "see, it worked in Utah" and BAM!
I'm really beginning to fear my own country. Cops are supposed to make you feel safe when you see them around. They just make me nervous...even when I'm doing nothing wrong. They have way too much power to ruin your life and if you think you're innocent until proven guilty, then you haven't had to go to court in awhile. I just tried to appeal a moving violation today and was told I have to pay money to file an appeal...money I don't get back even if I win. BS. I call shenanigans. - tgc1, on 02/14/2008, -0/+6Well they've already got secret courts. They're part of the way there.
- inactive, on 02/14/2008, -1/+7It will be members of the public that are hidden away soon...this is just another step toward roaming death squads at work on American soil.
- holmcross, on 02/14/2008, -0/+6What a fascist nut, but how can you blame him? Hes just emulating the current trend set forth by the federal government.
Removing accountability amongst people in power is all the rage these days. - mayra1201, on 02/14/2008, -1/+7i live in utah and that's pretty frickin scary, to be honest.
- Locke23, on 02/14/2008, -1/+6I am Jacks growing resentment
- TheDeity05, on 02/14/2008, -1/+6&%$#@#&^*% government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- TrevaLVF, on 02/14/2008, -0/+5A favorite fabrication is "resisting arrest." Another favorite, "assault on an officer."
And people wonder why a growing number of Americans fear and distrust the cops, and why another growing number of people hate cops. - scrmxtc, on 02/14/2008, -0/+5There are better ways to protect the credibility of the police force: stop power-tripping. Supporting this bill would become a basis to hide almost anything from the public for the sole arguable reason of reputational protection.
- derek20cali, on 02/14/2008, -0/+4But not our grandchildren.
- ZxEfR, on 02/14/2008, -1/+5Yeah your right.......this doesn't reflect on America today at all!
- paganmonkeyboy, on 02/14/2008, -1/+5I live in Utah.
Most of the herd here will go along with this - they are conditioned from birth that the path to heaven is in obedience to power. You can present all the facts you would like to - truth is subjective in this place.
Scary. Like move to Antarctica scary.
(Oh - It's a CULT, btw...) - inactive, on 02/14/2008, -0/+4The coup occurred when Bush was appointed prez back in 2000. The fascists have merely been consolidating power since them. I must admit they've been clever about it.
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