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Muslim Council of Britain Steps Up Islamization Effort

littlegreenfootballs.com — The Muslim Council of Britain, probably the most influential and well-connected UK Islamic front group, has laid out their demands for Britain’s schools to follow...

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  • jaetae, on 10/19/2007, -14/+137Imperialist Islamism on the march.
    • deesine, on 10/19/2007, -21/+196All non-Muslims, worldwide, should become familiar with sharia law, Islamic legalism. It is the legal structure that Islam strives to implement. It is inherently non-egalitarian: sharply dividing the world into believers and unbelievers, where unbelievers are afforded second class citizenship. It is antithetical to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and that is why no Muslim controlled country has adopted the UDHR.

      It demands the killing of gays/homosexuals.

      It demands the subjugation and strict regulation of all non-Islamic faiths. Take Saudi Arabia for instance, where Bibles are not even allowed into the country proper.

      It limits, in numerous ways, the rights of women.

      This is the system that Muslims are trying to implement in most all the countries they occupy.
    • trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+107"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"
      Just leave your religious requirements at the door.
    • neoform, on 10/12/2007, -70/+18We should all follow the word of the bible instead! Christian Law! :D

      http://bible.cc/exodus/35-2.htm
      Exodus 35:2:
      "For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day, a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death."
    • masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -81/+25WHY is it that the majority of news on digg these days comes from the tabloids?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Express

      Marked as inaccurate.
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -13/+30Comment by masamunecyrus marked down as irrelevant.
    • whatsupmtv, on 10/19/2007, -43/+29all muslims aren't terrorists but all terrorists are muslim.
    • southwestnut, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Well, they are closer to Mecca...
    • southwestnut, on 10/12/2007, -4/+50So the minority wants to rule the majority, where have I seen this before.......
    • syl1985, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23@MCB

      GTFO
    • PersianAli, on 10/12/2007, -16/+70Islamic supremacy on the roll. See how the anti-enlightenment and anti-science pro-Islam leftists, postmodernists and cultural-relativism people will join the Islamist bandwagon in attacking western progress and civilization, and demand victimhood freeloading status for all Muslims.

      Was it not the chief leftist Michel Foucault who backed Khomeini in his destruction of liberals, democrats and seculars in Iran 1979 - 1981?

      Religious brainwashing and indoctrination of children by Muslims (each having between 5 to 11 poorly fed and poorly attended children) should be criminalized. After all, the pedophile assassin Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) declared that those who do not submit to Islam have a choice between the sword and 2nd class citizenship (dhimmitude). No wonder Muslim children have to be brainwashed.
    • noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -27/+10"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"

      Why the hell is that being dugg up. That's the inscription on the Statue of Liberty... in AMERICA! This article is about an Islamic group in ENGLAND! They're different countries.

    • Mofassa, on 10/12/2007, -32/+2@deesine

      Just a quick note about the non-islamic faith..

      It tends to actually refer to "people of the book", which technically does incldue Christians and Jews. Saudi or other countries hwoever feel that the Christians and Jews of today are not the same as they once were, hence have excluded them. But I much prefer that people who actually understand what it's trying to say comment on this, as opposed to you using an example of Saudi who's problems are largely more cultural than based in the actual religious text.

      Also, referring to it as muslims occupying a country..well if they live there, it's their country. Believe it or not, it's not an occupation. While i don't condone any of the..well, stupidity that takes place, i do feel that people who like to comment on stuff like this should atleast get facts straight, or bother to actually learn what the Quraan says, along with the Hadiths say before commenting on what Sharia law says.

      In addition it doesn't call for their death, it rather applies second class citizen limits on non-mulsims. Such as higher taxes and other things such as that.
    • ilolled, on 10/19/2007, -32/+37@whatsupmtv

      'all muslims aren't terrorists but all terrorists are muslim.'

      What the *****?

      The IRA? The KKK? NSM?

      But don't let the facts get in the way of your racism and bigotry.


    • saikhan, on 10/19/2007, -28/+23littlegreenfootballs is gaming digg. pass it on.
      :)
    • smartass007, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1google for: "the narcissism of minor differences"

      here's a good starting place: http://www.historyguide.org/europe/freud_discontents.html
    • sanman, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22I for one welcome our new Islamic Overlords.
      (gulp) o.O;
    • ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -22/+4@deesine, you, just like the media, treat "sharia" like it's this hardcoded set of laws. It's not. There is more difference of opinion about what Shar'ia says than there is difference of opinion about the constitution. All those things you said about Sharia are very conservative, radical interpretations.
    • deesine, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26@ozziegt,

      You obviously are not familiar with Islamic jurisprudence, the soil for the plant of sharia. ALL the schools of Islamic jurisprudence teach warfare to the unbelievers. That's mainstream. There have been small branches from this, but they are by far a minority.
    • hmmdar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32Again this is just another show of how the religion of a few people are trying to controll everyone around them to their ways.

      From my point of view, the Islamic religion is about nothing than hate and controlling people
    • saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -19/+5^But isn't that every religion?
    • Myonosken, on 10/19/2007, -5/+32I HATE these *****. I have a good number of colleagues who are Muslim and perfectly normal people. Groups like this claim they are the "Muslim Council" for all of Britain, despite the fact most Muslims would HATE to be under Sharia law. It's just pure ***** and unfair on the majority of the Muslim populace.
      • nickstreet36, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1Yes, the LGF are just promoting ignorant, one-sided, sensationalist rubbish even by the admission of their founder:

        "I'm not pretending I'm giving equal time to both sides." (Charles Johnstone - Founder of LGF)

        Vanity Fair columnist James Wolcott characterized the LGF community as "sort of like a disorganized Nuremberg Rally, a lot of angry ruffians with nowhere to go...." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Green_Football ...
    • LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20@ilolled

      Racism? Please point me towards the Muslim race...
    • Grimsrud, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19@ilolled

      How many people have been killed by members of those groups over the past 10+ years? 5, 6 maybe? Despite being prone to violence the NSM and KKK are all a tiny bunch of disorganized losers these days who couldn't organize the assassination of a dog and god knows how long it's been since the IRA was responsible for a terrorist strike. But since the bombings of the US embassies there have been thousands upon thousands of people killed by Islamic terrorists. Shall I get out the jars and jellybeans for a nice colorful visual aid to visually demonstrate the difference?
    • etnu, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6I find it hilarious that the people who have the biggest problems with Muslims are almost universally right wing Christians, despite the fact that they pretty much agree on everything:

      - God before Country
      - Country before man
      - Man before woman
      - Homosexuality = evil
      - Sex outside of marriage = evil
      - Not believing in God = evil

      Would you ALL please shut up and die or something so that the sane and rational people of the world can go about our lives? Thanks!
    • smartass007, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1@etnu

      BIG UPS!
    • omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4Imperialist nothing. These people have no army, they are not forcing their demands on anyone. It's no different than Christian parents who choose to pull their children out of sex ed classes in public schools or demand that books about two male penguins be pulled off school shelves. If anything this serves as an example of why we shouldn't let parents' religious agendas overshadow the need for a broad-based education. But that's true of all religious beliefs, not just Muslims.
    • madmack, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2ok, i'm from Qatar, where some of you guys might think "OMG, the heart of this islamization". But this article is pissing me off.
      I don't see how any islamic rule can demand such things. even in Qatar, swimming is very encouraged because islam recommends teaching your kids "swimming, riding horses, and arching".
      girls in Qatar are allowed to go on school trips with their fellow male students. Dancing and music classes are taught in all public schools. We draw faces, heck, faces are all around the city. this puts several things into question.
      1. This article is BS.
      2. Something went totally wrong in britain that the muslim minority are acting this way. Most of these people are born in england, they are british more than anything else. the british authorities will have to question the environment they grew up in to produce such demands on a majority of other citizens.

      what's with all this crap about second citizens ? the prophet ordering to convert or die ? it really makes me very sad to see all this hatred towards islam. I used to laugh when my friends say "the west is really against islam", but after seeing all these comments. it seems the western media succeeded into brainwashing most of you guys into hating, and even being paranoid of islam.

      I have read the bible, and i tell you. if there are two or three religions that are closest on earth, they are Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. its what you make out of them that matters.

      Islam continues to be the fastest growing religion in the world. This might make some of you wonder how a religion of "hate" might spread out so quickly. just take a moment to think, and question your logic. Islam did not spread by force, people have adopted this religion from all over the world, and are proudly practicing it. I find these comments by some of you here very saddening. pick a quran for mohammad's sake and read it ! you won't find it so different than your bible.

      If this article is true, is not the religion in question, it is the system that brought such people into existence that is under question.

      and why are all of you so afraid of islam all of a sudden ? aren't you so happy and proud of your "democracy". Majority of british aren't muslims, these things shouldn't be allowed to pass. why all the fuss ? deal with it in a "civilized" manner. if you're so sure and so happy of how strong your society is built, then minor politics that don't gain major support won't be allowed to pass.

      when will we all learn to live together.

      my 2 cents

      sorry to put this as a reply, (i just copied and pasted from almost the bottom) but given that i have a radical different opinion, i'd like the most of you to get a chance to read it. and share your opinion
    • Isidore, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16The main reason Islam is different from other religions is that their founder gained political power and did what he had to do to keep power including waging war, killing POWs after they surrendered, keeping slaves and having sex with them (rape), having convenient Qur'anic revelations and various acts of kindness.

      Neither Jesus nor Buddah tried to gain political power, killed anyone or kept slaves - Muhammad did. The Qur'an (given through Muhammad) says Muhammad is the perfect human being. Mercifully most Muslims only know of and try to imitate his better acts.

      It took over three centuries before Christians gained political power. Jews have only had a state for a minority of their history. Most religions have precedents which allow them, at least in theory, to separate church and state and to have models of how to live as one religion amongst others. From the time of its founder Islam was politically dominant and sometimes considered how to accommodate minorities who knew their place below Muslims.

      www.faithfreedom.org has many stories from ex-Muslims - they have to remain anonymous for some reason.
    • ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4@deesine
      That's a funny thing to say considering I am a Muslim. None of the main schools of thought support unprovoked war against anyone. The only allowed warfare in mainstream Islam is in self defense. Every verse in the Quran which calls for fighting against unblievers is followed directly be another verse saying to stop fighting when they stop fighting.

      Sharia is becoming another "buzzword" to promote stereotypes and islamophobia in this country.
    • returnofmalv, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Well if you believe in any sort of democracy, the 1.5 million Muslims should have some say as to how their children are educated within their communities. Do they not deserve representation? Why should the arbitrary Christian laws of morality dominate? It's not like Britain or the US is run solely by Christians.

      Regardless, I would like to see a primary source. This LGF group of ***** never post primary sources because that would allow the reader to cut through their spin filter. ***** *****.
    • bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6We all should be telling them just what Australia did: you came to our county, we are secular, if you don't like that, and can't respect it, the airport is over there.
    • Danial, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0http://www.digg.com/world_news/Daily_Express_debunked_for_its_malicious_lies_against_British_Muslims

      Looks like LGF and the feeble-minded sheep that worship LGF and its loser affiliates got owned hardcore.
    • deesine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@ozziegt,

      Ibn Taymiyya (d. 1328), a Hanbali jurist who is a favorite of Osama bin Laden and other modern-day jihadists, taught: "Since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God's entirely and God's word is uppermost, therefore according to all Muslims, those who stand in the way of this aim must be fought."

      The Hanafi school sounds the same notes: "If the infidels, upon receiving the call [to Islam], neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them..." (Hidayah)

      The Shafi'i scholar Abu'l Hasan al-Mawardi (d. 1058 ) agrees, saying that if unbelievers "refuse to accept [Islam] after this, war is waged against them..."

      From a Shafi'i manual of Islamic law that in 1991 was certified by the highest authority in Sunni Islam. 'Umdat al-Salik, after defining the "greater jihad" as "spiritual warfare against the lower self," devotes eleven pages to the "lesser jihad." It defines this jihad as "war against non-Muslims," and spells out the nature of this warfare in specific terms: "the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians until they become Muslim or pay non-Muslim poll tax."

      Ibn Khaldun, a pioneering historian and philosopher, was also a Maliki theorist. In his renowned Muqaddimah, the first work of historical theory, he writes "in the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force." In Islam, many are concerned with "power politics," because Islam is "under obligation to gain power over other nations."

      ALL the other schools teach the same. Your assertion that Islamic jurisprudence advocates defensive-war only, is in dire need of support.
    • DigginTuesday, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I''ll digg masamunecyrus back up. The Daily Express is vile, not as vile as the Daily Mail, but still pandering to middle England's desire to feel outraged and slightly scared. It's all the excitement they get bless.
      Personally I'd rather a minister attended so he can shoot the thing down in flames. The Prime Minister is Catholic, his right hand man a moron (He wanted to be Mormon, they wouldn't have him, only the morons think he's worth it) and the leader of the opposition follows some other branch of christianity. This is, while lapsed, a predominantly christian/non practicing christian/no interest in religion country.
      My personal guess is this is a ploy to gain support for secular schools, something the government has sort of on and off hinted at banning in the name of integration. Personally I'm for banning them. No more brainwashed children please, regardless of religion.


  • tredglx, on 10/12/2007, -11/+88Britain Has A Huge Problem.

    Wonder if they'll ever get a clue that these cretins want it all?
    • RadicalRon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Maybe when "God Save the Queen" takes on special significance for Elton John - http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2005/07/2999.shtml

      And Barney Frank.
    • Y0tsuya, on 10/12/2007, -3/+44Silly Muslims. When are they going to join the modern world?
    • sanwin25, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Sad but true.

      It's probably too late already.

      The elephant is already in the room.

      Britans future is doomed.
    • sanman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22My countryyyyy, tis of theeeee, sweet land for jiiii-ha-diiiiis
      God saaave Mr Beeeean
    • Myonosken, on 10/12/2007, -21/+3***** bigoted *****. It's one group, not the whole of ***** Britain.
    • agimat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"Silly Muslims. When are they going to join the modern world?"

      The way things are going, perhaps the question should be "When are you going to join their world?".

    • vulcanius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9On the subject of muslim takeovers, France makes Britain look like silly little kids.
    • qwertydvorak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ vulcanius: nobody really cares about france though.
  • AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -12/+47The unbelievable power of lizardoids sweeps the original submission under the rug in just 11 minutes.
    http://digg.com/world_news/UK_Muslims_Demand_Sex_Segregation_in_Schools_Muslim_only_Showers_too
    • RadicalRon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9:-0
    • MohammedAlDura, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7... but the original doesn't have Charles Johnson's comments. That's why it's important to link directly to LGF.
  • PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -15/+192This is the key difference between Muslim immigration and other types of immigration. No other group of people make as many absurd demands on a frequent basis as these Muslims. I am myself a Chinese immigrant to New Zealand now living in the US. I have visited many countries. I have observed that Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Catholics, atheists and others never make demands on the host nation to suit their sensitivities. No one else apart from Muslims get upset because of ice-cream containers, editorial cartoons, Coca-Cola logos, pig advertisements etc. Hindus don't demand special treatment nor do they demand a special national holiday on Diwali. Jews don't demand a national holiday on Yom Kippur, the Chinese don't demand a national holiday on Chinese New Year. When it comes to Muslims and the Ramadan, it's a different story. No other immigrant group apart from Muslims demand the hosts to change their way of life. When Hindus, Buddhists, Catholics and Chinese atheists (etc) go into another country, they go there to become Americans, Britons, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders (etc). When Muslims go to other countries, they have no intention of becoming Americans, Britons, Canadians, Australians or New Zealanders. Their goal is to turn Americans, Britons, Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders into MUSLIMS. The goal of non-Muslim immigrants is to co-exist in the new society. The goal of Islam is to conquer the infidel society from within. It is time that Europe and America wake up to this fact before it is too late.
    • bromac, on 10/12/2007, -53/+20You know, I've never had a Muslim yet come to my door and tell me to change my life.

      Some prominent factions of Christianity do every Saturday though.
      • Greanbeens, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0Do they kill you if you tell them you aren't interested, though?
    • agitate, on 10/12/2007, -7/+66"No other immigrant group apart from Muslims demand the hosts to change their way of life." How true, how obviously true!

      patriotickiwi;

      This post should be enshrined somewhere, preferably the forehead of every whining so-called "progressive" that doesn't get what's happening. Thanks for your comments!
    • BillTG, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47I think you may have a point, why should we listen to what their beliefs demand when those beliefs demand not respecting our beliefs. I hope the UK has it in them to stand up and say that these demands are ridiculous and that no school system of mixed beliefs should have to implement the belief set of one religion simply because they demand it. Try this in America or Canada and you would not get far.
    • AkiraXXX, on 10/12/2007, -25/+6While I understand the point you are trying to make and appreciate your reasoning, I do think you should ask the native peoples of the Americas how they feel about not being forced to change their lives by their "guests". Still, your point is well taken. We all need to learn how to be more tolerant and less sensitive about religious issues.
    • otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -26/+23I like how you describe 1.2 billion people as all the same.

      These demands would be considered extreme to MOST Muslims in the west. I'd know, I'm Muslim.
    • salivalnz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I am also a New Zealander (and still present here) and I agree very much with what you are saying.

      We in New Zealand are lucky in that are society's secular values - for the most part - resists such non-sense. The day that changes is the day I move the hell away from here.
    • ArenaRon, on 10/12/2007, -8/+49Finally a posting on DIGG that isn't being dugg down by leftist Islam lovers. I hate it when someone posts an accurate portrayal of what is happening in regards to Islam and the leftest diggers digg down any comments that state the truth!
      (i am sure this will also get dugg down, sad)
    • Boulevard, on 10/12/2007, -12/+22Mexican immigrants regularly use free medical care, actively avoid paying taxes, get in-state tuition, get driver's licenses...WTF do you mean Muslims are the only immigrants demanding the host accomodate them? We had hundreds of thousands of illegals demonstrating for citizens rights in cities across the US last year. Where were you, under a rock?!?
    • mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33Even in the USA those demands are wreckless. We have laws in place to allow other faiths to observe their religon as they see fit.. such as kosher school lunches, allowing musilim girls to wear their getup, etc..

      But in the US we'd laugh if Jewish people demanded ALL school lunches be kosher because their children might see it, or demand the school have NO swim sports because their child will get upset if they have to sit out. This goes beyond allowing them to practice their religion and to trying to say their religion can't allow their children to see any other practice... it should be laughed down and the MP kicked out!!!
    • theburnerman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@otheruser

      Fair enough, but it seems to me that per capita more Muslim immigrants are making demands than other immigrants.

      In addition, if this type of action is considered extreme by most Muslims why is it that none of them *ever* stand up against this kind of thing? I hear again and again that terrorism and other extremism is just not the way of most Muslims and that they don't support it. Where are the protests against terrorism? Against unreasonable demands against host countries? I haven't heard of a single one. That makes it hard to believe what is being said. Are Muslims afraid of being targeted by extremists if they speak out? Do they secretly support the direction that things like unreasonable demands on host countries might accomplish?

      I'd like to believe, but I just can't. All words and no action equals no belief.
    • LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11@bromac: That's because the Muslims aren't trying to convince you into changing your way of life the the Christians are. They're trying to legislatively force you to. Note the difference.
    • gromnie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@Billtg: "Try this in America or Canada and you would not get far."

      You don't live in one of the states unfortunate enough to have hundreds of f-ing Somalians moving in, apparently. The wonderful Somalians: All thrilled to be on welfare and have no desire or intention of doing anything besides steal from our stores and homes and demand that we not only ignore this behaviour, but that we also give them even more free money and housing -- we somehow 'owe' them, after all -- and provide all city services in Somali since they have no intention of learning our "filthy" language.

      And yet somehow it's a 'hate crime' if anyone disagrees with them.
    • Danial, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1Why the ***** does anti-Muslim posts get positive diggs? Is Digg really anti-Muslim? I wonder if a lot of people here want to see Muslims round up and deported.

      And listen up patriotickiwi, you don't live in the U.S. so perhaps you should know how the Mexican immigrants like to make ludicrous demands as well.

      So in short, STFU and to all you anti-Muslim bigots, Muslims are here to stay whether you like it or not so ***** off *****.
    • Anisty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Muslims are here to stay whether you like it or not so ***** off *****."

      And that's exactly the problem with them. It's our country, why don't you ***** off?
    • qwertydvorak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ salivalnz: "We in New Zealand are lucky in that are society's secular values - for the most part - resists such non-sense. The day that changes is the day I move the hell away from here."

      the first half (secular values): what country in europe is more secular than france ? read up on what is happening there.

      the second half (moving out): nice way to raise the white flag. grow a pair and be willing to stand up for the beliefs that you feel your country is so great for. retreat is not an option. anything worth having is worth fighting for.
    • Danial, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0"And that's exactly the problem with them. It's our country, why don't you ***** off?"

      No it isn't YOUR country. You INVITED the immigrants over to work in your factories, so stop bitching. If you all knew how to integrate them instead of dumping them into ghettoes, you would not have this problem.

      BTW, what do you think of Western ex-pats living in Muslim countries with nice perks and generous salaries, having given everything they want so they would feel welcomed at home, only to turn around and start bitching about Muslims? Would you also want them to put their money where their mouth is and leave? Makes sense, doesn't it?

      Go cry some more btw, and get over it, Muslims are here to stay whether you like it or not. Perhaps you can go campaign for us to be sent to camps and to be gassed, huh?
      • Greanbeens, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0As soon as they have the numbers, they will do just that.
    • stevebee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not only do they "demand", but behind the demand is a veiled threat.

      No other group stabs film producers, burns flags and effigies, kidnaps and saws off heads.
    • phairphair, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The so-called "moderate" or "True Muslims" have no voice. Or choose not to use it. Where is the outrage from these moderate Muslims over the apparent hijacking of their peaceful religion?

      Where is the action taken by so-called "secular Muslim" governments to wipe out the radical Islamist threat?

      Talking and negotiating does nothing but make the rational world appear weak and embolden the Islamists.

      The passive condoning of radical Islamist factions and mosques by European, Arab, or any other government must be treated at active collusion. Otherwise, who do we hold responsible? How do we fight the enemy long term?

      Who do we punish when the first nuke is detonated in London or New York? What will today's standards of political correctness allow?
    • Gerolsteiner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The Mexican immigrants generally don't make demands. The vast majority are here to essentially keep to themselves, work, get some money, and send it back to Mexico. Sure, its a little leech-like, but with this flow of income, Mexico is slowly improving and even growing a middle class. If this keeps up, some day Mexico will be stable and decent enough so that thousands of immigrants don't cross the border all the time.

      The ones demanding rights are a small and irritating minority, influenced by the Chavezian socialist mindset that "entitles" them to handouts from the US.
  • Highrise1, on 10/12/2007, -10/+68Wow. This cult has gotten too big for it's britches. I don't forsee their demands being compatible with free societies. These demands are anything BUT free.
  • canman888, on 10/12/2007, -21/+12Is there any reason not to hate the muslims in the western world? Ship them back to their hellhole...
  • snakeophelia, on 10/12/2007, -10/+69It boggles the mind that anyone could look at these list of demands and see them as anything but fascist.
    • tomcpp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2If you think these demands are fascist, you should read the quran.

      Stuff like 33:36 for example, outlawing independant thought
      8:12 mass-murder of infidels and use of terror
      paedophilia
      ...
  • HongQi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54Poor Brits...
    • SnowWolf102001, on 10/12/2007, -23/+52No...they brought this on themselves...they were the originators of this PC Multi-cultural nonsense

      it may be too late for europe...then it will be up to the U.S. to rescue them again...only this time...not France...the Islamists can have it
    • noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29Where're Arthur and Churchill when we need them?


      Rolling in their ***** graves, that's where.
    • csudcy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9@snowwolf102001

      Scuse me but not everyone in England is so PC! Just like not everyone in America is pro war. Anyway, thats beside the point, I really hope this is a fracking joke! If any of this happens it will just bring more division between Muslims & the rest of the UK (the world?).
    • DigginTuesday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Snowwolf, the US invented PC, not the UK.
  • cr4ft, on 10/12/2007, -52/+34Reminds me of those dumb ass American Evangelical Christians who are trying to FORCE religion into our schools.
    • Mohamedisgay, on 10/12/2007, -21/+33Are you seriously trying to compare the 2? You are a dhimmi if you equate the 2.
    • Bridgetown, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26It's not happening is it, brainiac?
    • SnowWolf102001, on 10/12/2007, -13/+89Tell you what...you like to compare the Muslims to Christians?...

      urinate on a bible and a quran...and tell us which group of outraged 'believers' throws a grenade through your office window first
    • captaineuphoria, on 10/12/2007, -26/+14Depends on where you live.
    • AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -13/+25cr4ft is either a Dhimmi or an Islamist. One thing I've found on Digg is that even Islamists are more honest and open to normal thought than moonbat Dhimmis.
    • TheChihuahua, on 10/12/2007, -22/+10Don't see why this guy is being dugg down, it's a fair point. Muslims are not the only religious group trying to force their beliefs upon schools.
      When will people learn that religion has no place in public schools? Pupils should certainly learn about religions, but in an objective and dispassionate way, and about all religions, not just certain ones.
    • syl1985, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21WTF is a Dhimmi? UK Slang? Elaborate please.. enlighten me!
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32A Dhimmi is a second-class citizen in a Muslim-dominated country.

      The scary part is that Dhimmi's are told to like it.
    • agitate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18syl1985;

      See http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/ in the left margin for the definition of Dhimmitude.

    • syl1985, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Ahh thanks for the info, I always thought Dhimmi was the name of the priest out of the exorcist.. DHIMMIY OH DHIMMI WHY DO YOU TREAT ME LIKE THIS?!!

      Whingy old bag
    • greyfade, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11@cr4ft: no, these evangelical Christians are trying to get the government to be more hands-off on the matter of Christian activities in schools and other public contexts. (although some, such as the ACLJ can come off as being a little ... heavy-handed.)

      the MCB is trying to push the Islamic way of life down the throats of schools.

      there's a subtle difference here. can you spot it?
  • Mohamedisgay, on 10/12/2007, -16/+76And people say there is no threat from Islam. Ha! They are attacking from within using western guilt and liberal multiculturalism to change our way of life. Where are the moderate muslims i keep hearing about? The majority of muslims live in islamic countries and we all know how moderate those populations are so lets drop the pretense that islam is a religion of piece and open our eyes to the cult of death. If this passes into law, the UK is doomed.
    • funkmachine, on 10/12/2007, -7/+52It won't pass into law. Not all of us Brits are Dhimmis/ PeeCee/ Multiculturalists.

      Islam doesn't have a future on this island, regardless of our 'liberal elites'' (got to laugh at that phrase) intentions.
    • geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28It is a liberal belief that schools must be secular. As such, I don't see why liberals would support this. In fact, call me when these people actually have a tangible effect on British schools, I don't think they will get very far.
    • Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26I hope you are right funk machine.

      In the coming years we will see many more demands like this all over Europe.

      Somebody needs to draw a line in the sand.
    • CrashPoint, on 10/12/2007, -12/+20"Where are the moderate muslims i keep hearing about?"

      They're in the original article (http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=1264), criticizing this extremist stupidity.

      The blog linked in the Digg article rather conveniently omits that bit.

      You'll conveniently forget about it too, I expect.
    • roguenine2000, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Are any Briish politicians currently supporting this measure?

      And one other thing... if conservatives in America are pushing for more religion in the public arena, why are those doing it in the UK suddenly liberal? A return to the past is a tenet of conservatism last time I checked.
    • sporkmonger, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3@CrashPoint

      It's LGF, they aren't exactly known for well-balanced discourse.

      Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is, extremists of all varieties wield power entirely disproportionate to their numbers, and unfortunately, reasonable people tend to forget that.
  • ringo380, on 10/12/2007, -16/+2862 diggs in 24 minutes (and that's not "since popular" for when this gets front paged). Yes, this is an off-topic post and it should be dugg down accordingly, but goddamn that's some gaming right there.
  • lincolnsixecho, on 10/12/2007, -7/+34Read it again:

    One main reason, meanwhile, why the war is so poorly understood and controversial:
    the enemy is not a nation-state but an ideology, an ideology which has been spread
    throughout the world and can now be found in practically every nation on the planet.
    Because of the religious derivation of this ideology, analysts are generally reluctant
    to identify it properly or fully. They don't wish to examine how this ideology is
    advancing through peaceful means. They refuse to consider the ways in which it
    threatens American society, laws, and mores. And multiculturalism dins into all our
    ears that all value systems and belief systems are equal, and that only "bigots"
    oppose one or another, or dare to examine how one may be contain incitements to
    violence and supremacism.
    • roguenine2000, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10I agree to some extent... but I am hesitant to generalize Islam as a hostile religion, because as a Christian I know that most non-Christians consider all Christians to be arrogant, self-righteous, and hippocritical, when in fact that is only the minority. Most Christians are moderate and kind people. I don't know many Muslims, but the same fallacy applies to them as well.
  • drowningfish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Why don't the Muslim Community gather up enough funds and support to open up their own Education Institutions? If the Catholics were able to do this then what exactly is preventing the Muslim's from doing the same?

    I admit my ignorance as to how the Educational System works in Britain. Although I do know Catholic Institutions exist there.
    • Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -20/+3Yeah, there was a time when you weren't allowed into those schools if you weren't a catholic...even if you lived right next to it. Imagine that (and i'm only going back 20 or so years). Damn muslims, western religion would NEVER segregate and demean others like that...what's that you say? you still can't use contraception? :o Gays should DIE? Hhhm......
    • glasgowm, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3almost all schools in Britain are Catholic


      /atheist in a Catholic school :(
    • SirStu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@glasgowm

      Err, no. Some are, but only really in the Central Belt, as you would know. The only other mainstay of religious schools are the Church of England Schools in England.
  • lunchbucket, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Harrumph.

    http://digg.com/world_news/Ban_Un_Islamic_Schools_say_U_K_Muslims

    OTOH, it won't get buried.
    • radishthegreat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18You can't shout down the truth forever just because you don't like to face it.
  • Missourimama, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37
    Who are the fools?

    The ones who LET this crap happen in their countries.
    • edstate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34But you can't say they're wrong, or backward, or not welcome. No sirree. Then you'd be a racist, or xenophobic, or intolerant. Funny how that works.
    • Blisshead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17***** that, in this case it is wrong and that ***** is not welcome. Call me whatever you want.

      (yes I know I'm agreeing with you and I did ge the tone of your post.
    • Donald2007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Actually, I think the Brits initially believed that giving in to extremists' demands would make things better...but the more they gave in, the more it gave the Islamists a feeling of power...so they kept pressing for more and more:
      http://adeeperlookweblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/british-tolerance-towards-extremists.html
    • roguenine2000, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3There is a difference between saying you are not welcome here and you are wrong. It is the responsibility of citizens of a democracy to stand up for equal rights, so saying "This is wrong" to the Muslims is right. But it is wrong to say you're not welcome here. That is nativism. You can't fight for equal rights in schools and then expect the government to not let people into the UK because of their religion.
  • Bridgetown, on 10/12/2007, -10/+41It's going to be the USA and Australia that has to save the freakin' world again.
    • bondbhai, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8USA, ok. Australia! Now now, cool down!!
    • AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30Agreed. Australia and US seem to be the only countries left in the Anglosphere who have any kind of civilizational confidence (and who have lower levels of Muslim population). Israel and India are also natural allies. We must hope that the Asian civilizations such as China and Japan will also make common cause.
    • mackdaddy187, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Don't forget Canada. :-D
    • LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I wonder if there is any correlation between that and the fact that they are both relatively young nations. Looking back over history, you can see it happen all the time; the old civilization supplanted by the new. Only rarely does an old civilization recover from decline enough to become a force again. I wonder if there is some aspect of colonialism or frontiersmanship that makes for stronger nations. If it does, the question then becomes how do we keep that attitude when we've colonized our country, and overcome out frontiers?
  • vann, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Is this for real? The "source" looks like a tabloid. Is the Daily Express reputable?
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -19/+9Of course it is not reputable. It is just the daily anti-muslim post from our friends at little green footballs.
    • jodokast, on 10/12/2007, -15/+9Daily Express is, in fact, a tabloid.

      Need another source.
    • deesine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Try these sources...

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/22/nmuslim122.xml
      http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007080482,00.html
      http://news.scotsman.com/education.cfm?id=279992007

      Do I need to go on, or have you found the correct words to search for (hint: try "Britain schools Muslims")
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5The sun?

      How about an article from the Independent. You know, one that actually talks about what happened instead of about how the muslism want to take over the world.

      http://education.independent.co.uk/news/article2290056.ece

      It basically just asks for halal meat and to allow muslims to wear whatever types of clothes they want.
    • Malcx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6382083.stm
    • PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15The story also broke on the BBC. The MCB document made suggestions that there should not be school exams or swimming during the Ramadan.
    • lunchbucket, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14The Express has a daily circulation of 720,000. For comparison, only 4 U.S. papers do better- USA Today,WSJ, NYT, and the LAT.

      Disreputable?

      The reason it changed from broadsheet to tab format was to make it easier to read on the train on your way to work.

      The Express sells to mid income households with a couple of kids in the yard so the editorial emphasis is a conservative take on bread and butter issues like education, immigration, taxation, law and order.

      Unlike U.S. papers, the Express understands that to sell papers, it has to give a damn about it's readership
    • powerclam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Drizek: read the Independant article again (if you even bothered to actually read it a first time.
      It's a LOT morre than scarves and meat.
      It wants a revamp of History education, art training, dance classes, phys ed, etc. etc.
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7somebody has a soft spot for the express...

      It doesnt change the fact that both the LGF and the express stories take the report out of context and try to demonize the muslim population.

      Edit: We are in 2.5 wars in the middle east right now. I think it would do kids both in the US and england to learn some muslim history, since most people are completely clueless about the issue.
    • lunchbucket, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@drizek:

      The Express represents a large swath of Britons, who, incidentally, are the folks that go a long way to fill the exchequer's coffers.

      Are you saying that the final say in what goes on in public schools should be left to a special interest group like the MCB?

      Or should that be left to those that pay the bills?
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3The MCB is by no means the only special interest group. All sorts of groups express their opinions and make these "demands" to schools. It is ultimately up to the schools to decide what to go with. I hate religion and I disagree with the MCB demands, but it is not a good reason to start using words like Londonistan.

      I hope and expect that the schools will disregard the majority of their recommendations, but I think more focus on Middle East history and a more free dress code should be implemented regardless.
    • lunchbucket, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@drizek:

      I'll grant the point. The MCB is one of many competing special interests banging at the doors of whatever councils or departments decide how public schools are run. I'm not English, so I don't know how things are set up there.

      But it's not fearmongering or sensationalistic to report on what lobbying *is* being brought to bear.

      The taxpayer has a right to know -- it's their money and their kids. And the Express is doing what it ought to be doing.
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3yes, it should be reported on, but it is overly sensationalized and many of the LGF statements are just plain not part of the MCB document. If someone had posted a digg story with a link to the BBC or the Independent, i wouldnt have had a problem with it. It would have just been another not-so-interesting story.
    • lunchbucket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@drizek:

      Here's what you're missing. The news business is not some sort of grad school colloquium. Muslims are news. Or have you forgotten 7/7 so soon?

      But you've got me there, drizek. Neither the Beeb nor the Independent would stoop to breathless speculation

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6376639.stm

      nor shrieking headlines.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/
    • qazxsw2, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1"is the Daily express reputable ?"

      It is recognised by most thinking brits as a right-wing bigot rag.
      It's fuel for boorish idiots. Gives them something to rant about in the pub to take their minds off their own inadequacies.

      I disagree with almost everything the mcb suggest but the express report is sensationalist *****.
  • totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23One thing is for sure; Little Green Footballs has discovered Digg. Did they add the little "Digg This!" icon to their stories recently? :p
    • otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -20/+7LGF is a WELL-KNOWN anti-Muslim hate site. Most of the top commenters in this post are also the top-comments in other LGF Digg posts - basically, they're all the same people spewing out the same hate-filled nonsense.

      Check the Wikipedia entry on Little Green Footballs - every single major media outlet has labeled it a racist, bigot website - the only praise it gets are from Bill O'Reilly and the like.
    • foopirata, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13otheruser is a WELL-KNOWN anti-Israel/anti-Semitic hate poster. Most of his posts and also comments in other Digg posts, basically, they're all the same BS spewing out the same hate-filled nonsense.

      oooops....it looks like it cuts both ways.
    • syl1985, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4Yes, LGF is a hate-site - the telgraph, bbc and the likes are not, in this case I am digging a LGF article because they gamed it to the frontpage - but the story (It's the bit with the dark blue background) remains the same...

  • vikramkr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39No offense is intended by this comment, but what the hell is up with Muslim minorities moving to WESTERN countries and demanding that those whole countries adapt an Islamic lifestyle? 'Westward' Muslims should be the ones integrating into the societies in which they reside!
    • legatus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22The religion tells them they must, it is doctrine.
    • otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1melting pot vs the salad bowl.

      what is that? 3rd grade? 4th maybe?
    • LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"what is that? 3rd grade? 4th maybe?"

      Leftist ***** is what it is. Melting pot, salad bowl, we're not talking about metallurgy or cuisine. We're talking about social makeup, and there are no parallels between that and those inane analogies. But if we were, this would be the lettuce telling the tomato it has to be green and taste like lettuce.
    • Dewhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you."


      http://www.islamreview.com/articles/theroad.shtml
  • digginestdogg, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15This is going in the wrong direction. The world needs _less_ religion of all kinds brain washing vulnerable young minds--not more.
    • SnowWolf102001, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18you mean like secular humanism...the religion of the Left?
    • Niten, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3@snowwolf102001: Care to present any evidence for your extraordinary claim that following a particular school of philosophical thought (secular humanism) is somehow equivalent to belonging to a religion? The very word secular means, "Denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis." I'll be happy to define "religious" for you too, if you require it.

      In reply to the parent comment, it's amazing how people can talk so lucidly about the dangers of one fundamentalist religion sweeping Britain, yet fail to at all grasp the similar problems imposed by fundamentalist believers in another Abrahamic religion, just across the pond.
  • skEwb35, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9haha.. demands....
  • siriusnova, on 10/12/2007, -23/+10digging down because this post is obviously spam from the LGF folks, they tried this earlier. What happen, they decide to invade digg since their blog isnt cutting it anymore?
    • newportl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Shouldn't your digg up/down be based on the story, not the submitter?
    • deesine, on 10/12/2007, -12/+18Typical leftist: attack the messenger...
    • BeefotronX, on 10/12/2007, -10/+23Actually, LGF's blogmaster Charles Johnson has simply improved things by adding Digg links.

      Are you suggesting that bloggers should not have a "Digg this" link in their posts?
      Or perhaps only those who pass a rigorous exam of political thought purity should be given access?
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Name one other site that has a story that hits the front page every single day.
    • bluto36, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7sorry your circle jerk was broken
    • likeaglove, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@ siriusnova

      Upset because Leftyland got invaded by some common sense? Worried about (re)discovering how insignificant and "fringe" your radical views actually are?

      My heart bleeds for you. It really does. ;o)

      LGF is a welcome breath of sanity to Digg, which has been dominated for too long by insecure, prepubescent twits.
  • salpairodice, on 10/12/2007, -24/+12Yeah, what's up with the little green facists taking over digg lately?

    They're just as fanatical as radical Muslims - they just ain't blowin' ***** up - yet.
    • AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19Moonbat moral equivalency alert.
    • bluto36, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7they will blow things up you just wait. just wait......... wait just a bit more........

      OK they will start blowing stuff up but they just want to give the Muslim a 20 year and 50,000 explosion head start.

      /but those evil Christians now they are going to start blowing things up any day now just you wait........ just wait......
  • sputnike, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48I live here in the UK... and hell it is starting to become annoying. Ok let us not be racist, but let us face the fact that is affecting almost every country that they immigrate into. I use the term "they" not in an offensive way. It was just a year and a bit ago (Christmas 2005) that we were no longer allowed to call Christmas Lights here in the UK Christmas Lights, no they had to be renamed "Seasonal Decoration lights", companies are not allowed to advertise Christmas Cards in their shop windows for the same reason. Muslims. They are using Terrorists to their advantage to get them to co-operate (I don't mean they have any connection with the terrorists, but the Labour, Left-Winged UK Government is doing everything they can to please the Muslim community because they don't want to upset the terrorists). This is going to far... We do definately need a Conservative Government in the UK again soon, their was none of this sh*t when Margret Thatcher was in power, no there was a policy - "You wan't to live in our country? You abide by our laws and rules of nation"... Britain is becoming too much of a giver and pleaser, and for what? So that Muslims can open shops, work jobs for low pay, and change our country leaving our own jobless, which does of course mean that people will get angry. That's just my view anyway. And btw I am not a racist, I just have strong views on issues like this.
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -20/+8dont blame christmas lights on muslims. That is the result of muslims, jews, athesits and anyone else who isnt christian. Dont give muslims all the credit. :)
    • GonadHunter, on 10/12/2007, -24/+2Do you want a membership to the BNP with that post sputnike?
    • Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3@sputnike: Go on, tell me how you've been affected by all this 'muslimisation'. You sound like those unemployed/unemployable people that live in dirty housing estates, claiming benefits that they don't qualify for, who rant and rave about how the 'pakis' took all their jobs (that's why i'ms on benerfits). Yes, the very same jobs they would never have had anyway, simply because they, um, sit about getting drunk / high, breeding and hitting each other all day and night.
    • Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19I thought they just collected benefits there.

      http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=979&Pos=&ColRank=2&Rank=224

      "Muslims aged 16 to 24 years had the highest unemployment rates."

      Looks like a muslim teaching the koran and seperating them from their classmates is really doing good for them.
    • sputnike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Actually no I attend college, work part time in PC World and also run my own web hosting company, live in a very good town and area and in a detached house, nor do I sit around getting drunk or high shouting about people stealing my jobs. Secondly, no I do not want to be part of the BNP, I think they are way too extreme, although I know one or two people who do. All I'm saying is that yes by all means be neighbourly to countries in need of help, hell I am half Spanish but I mean we should possibly have a cap, and if I was going to move to America or Italy, I wouldn't expect them to change their schools to being Protestant instead of Catholic.
    • tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11A Conservative government wouldn't do much good in this case, David Cameron is even more of a 'say what they want to hear' type person than Tony Blair is. I say that as a Tory.
    • Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2@sputnike: so...you live in a predominantly white area, and get your muslim fix from TV and tabloids. That's even easier to believe for some reason.
    • Missourimama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15sputnike, good post, but you said "Ok let us not be racist" and "btw I am not racist" .. how is being critical of the actions of some Muslims racist?

      I thought a Muslim was someone who followed a religion called Islam?
      Can't ANYONE be a Muslim like ANYONE can be a Christian?

      So maybe bigot is a better word than RACIST, and I don't mind being called a bigot for disliking Islam.

    • sputnike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8tizz66 - sadly I agree, Its a shame Michael Howard didn't win the last election, his policies were amazing... David Cameron is just a Labour supporter in the Conservatives because he knows he's more likely to get in. And Missourimama, I said that just to make it clear with people that i'm not racist... you say anything about other countries, religions these days and people assume your racist.
    • syl1985, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8That's ridiculour, xmas lights are xmas lihts (i am lazy) and that's that.. this type of stuff is utterly retarded, I am not religous at all but I've enjoyed xmas as a holiday all my life this PC ***** hiding our faiths so they can show theirs is crap
    • qazxsw2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0sputnike, you have a thin grip on reality.

      Who said we were not allowed to call christmas lights whatever we like, or advertise christmas cards ?
      Or did you read that in the Daily Express too ?

    • rekka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I live in the UK too, but things like that don't happen in my UK. However, my UK is not the UK that's depicted in the Daily Mail.
  • RickSalazar2003, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20Bye Bye England, nice knowing ya.
  • Caramia, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24If LGF likes something it's spam? Just because the truth doesn't fit your PC template?
    • otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -20/+6oh please, LGF is NOT a reputable, factual website. it tries to relate EVERY VIOLENT crime committed by a Muslim person to his/her faith. aside from that, it's also widely recognized by most academics, media-sources, and newspapers as a bigot, racist gathering-site - check wiki if you don't believe me.
    • Highrise1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Otheruser is an idiot. First of all, this isn't about LGF, this is about this issue being reported so comment on that.

      Second, if you put stock in wikipedia, you sir/madam/it are an idiot.

      Take your hatespeech for LGF elsewhere.
    • bluto36, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12wow otheruser sure has a hard-on for LGF.

      /whaa LGF says something i don't like but i can't refute so instead of debate or adding anything constructive to the conversation, I am going to throw a big baby fit and call them names. some people will tell me to act like a grownup. i yell right back at them "f&#$ you stupid C&#@ racist F$&% face. I cant i am a liberal /otheruser off
  • legatus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17It will go on and on till the reality of it all reaches even the slowest of the sheeple, then the glass factories will be flying.
    • cpuenvy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Sadly, I agree.

      People will not wake up until it is too late. When this group even can come out and shamefully ask for something like this, you know we are in trouble.
    • TheChihuahua, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Sorry, dugg down just for using the word sheeple. You're a tool.
  • geiger253, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Hate to spoil the party, it was good fun and an impressive looking bit of television - but am I the only UK viewer who is a bit peeved that this is how our tv licence money is spent? For those who don't know the BBC is a public broadcaster that harshly enforces a nationwide tax on television sets, whether you watch their channels or not. It's no small amount either - about 200 dollars a year and rising, and people pay huge fines for not paying, and stuff. So it's a bit hard to watch these rather well-paid publicly-funded playboys burning money that's not theirs to burn. They must have spent 10 times the average UK yearly salary for that stunt. It'd be another thing if they were a private/commercial broadcaster using money earned from advertising, etcetera, and not using wages pinched from working people's paypackets - but then presumably a commercial station would have rejected this idea as rather a waste of money.
    • tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Did you comment in the wrong digg? I don't see what this has to do with the topic...
  • lostboy, on 10/12/2007, -28/+9it boggles my mind that any of you guys buy this story at face value. This is a bunch of crap, it comes from well known right wing tabloid paper which is racist, bigoted and just plain untrue.

    But of course, you want to believe don't you. It's all to easy to believe something you find so attractive, a bunch of young naive people who'd rather think that others they haven't met half way around the world are a bunch of uneducated savages who just haven't been 'civilized' rather than having to engage with them and learn about concepts of community and religion other than their own.

    Viva la propaganda. Do yourself a favour and don't buy this *****, if you do then you just embarrass yourself?
    • BeefotronX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Did you not check the links in these comments to other news sources reporting this same story?

      You are most eager to wave things away as racist and bigoted-- perhaps that is your way to try censor your political opponents. But of course it's they who are the fascists, not you.
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13The most basic unit of propaganda is calling something propaganda.....
    • seanrbaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6382083.stm

      Try that one. Must be government-controlled propaganda. Those dirty fascists.

      Read TFA, read the comments above you, or don't bother posting.

      Thanks, and really - have a wonderful day.
  • hustl3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+40Even I, as a Muslim, find this totally ridiculous. I mean come on WTF..they can't just demand that ***** in a non islamic country, it's not realistic and just plain stupid really.
    • Sharmuta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7But you're reading it with your own eyes.
  • Newportbeachguy, on 10/12/2007, -12/+10Allah Sucks my little green balls, and he makes me want to throw up!
    • cpuenvy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Counting down until you get a jihad called on your green balled ass!

      ;)

      This ***** is getting crazy...

      You can't offend them, for risk of extreme violence. That is today. Tomorrow, you will have to make special accommodations for their girls to go to your schools. Where does it end!
  • PrincepsSenatus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20Would be better to ban Islam and send the ungrateful Muslims back to the homeland of their misogynistic pedophilic terrorist-'prophet' Mohammed. Since they can't handle the freedoms of 'western civilization' they obviously need to go somewhere where they can feel more comfortable - Pakistan? Saudi Arabia? Iran?
    • noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You're all Digging that down, any reason in particular?

      I wholeheartedly agree with him. Just like any othe guest that has over-stayed their welcome, the Muslims that think along these lines need to be firmly deported. Each year that I have gone back home, I have seen my culture erroded more and more. My son will be born this year, next year, I wanted to take my new family back to my homeland and share it with them, what will be left by then?

      You people may not care about your culture and heritage, but mine is a part of what defines me my ancestors died for the values that are gradually being pushed aside in favor of being politically correct to foreigners who have no interest in doing the same. That wouldn't upset any of you?
  • PyroSkank, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you: LONDONISTAN!

    I wonder what the Global Islamic Caliphate will call the formerly British Isles.....How about "New Pakistan"? I think it's got a nice ring to it.
    • davidf01, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0'londonistan' is a witty sobriquet but it also is no joke! ...

      it is the title of a very insightful book! by an interesting uk journo ... check it out:

      http://www.melaniephillips.com/londonistan/

      here a startling quotation from one of the blurbs for the book:

      "In dictatorships, you need courage to fight evil; in the free world, you need courage to see the evil." - Nathan Sharansky (former dissident in ussr).
  • ahmerhussain, on 10/12/2007, -17/+18Buried as "Innaccurate".

    This may be how the f'd up old men running these organizations feel, but we the Islamic youth are more passive than our parents are and are your typical brits or americans.

    My parents say the dumbest things, and demand the lamest crap, and thier buddies are in charge of public relations and end up making everything worse by taking all teh diplomacy out and think that this is thier homeland and forget where they are and who they are talking to.
    • Bridgetown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Here's to many millions of muslim youth feeling as you and *knowing* that it's okay to love.
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21"My parents say the dumbest things, and demand the lamest crap,"

      Please be brave and tell them off.
    • BillTG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Is this a sentiment commonly echoed throughout most Islamic youth? If so, how much does the older generation listen to the younger?
    • otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -13/+12I'm also Muslim, and while it isn't so bad here in the U.S. (luckily, the youth is very much involved in PR and decision-making here), it can be pretty troubling when there are only older, immigrant-generations (no offense intended) running the place.

      Though I'm very much against LGF and this tabloid rag "The Daily Express", it is indeed time for the youth in Britain to step up and BECOME INVOLVED.

      Mouthing off your parents won't do anything - getting involved in your local mosque/student-association will.
    • tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16You HAVE to speak up then, or it will be your generation taking the flak for what your elders are spewing.
    • Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Sorry but you are wrong.

      "The majority of Muslims feel they have as much, if not more, in common with non-Muslims in Britain than with Muslims abroad, but the figure dropped from 71 per cent of over-55s to 62 per cent among 16-24-year-olds."
      http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=152072007

      "Among 16- to 24-year-olds, 37 percent said they would prefer to live under shari'a than under British law, compared to 17 percent of respondents who were over 55.

      In the younger group, 74 percent would prefer that Muslim women "choose to wear the veil" and 31 percent agreed that a Muslim converting to another religion should be punished by death."

      http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200701/INT20070131d.html
  • AliBomaYe, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7First off, obviously this isn't the most impartial website. Secondly, are you serious with the comment that "not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims?" What exactly does that mean? Actually, what exactly is a "terrorist?" Maybe it was just sarcasm....It was bad enough we had to deal with "Islamo-fasciscm" now there's "Imperial Islamism?"
    • Bridgetown, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Are you unaware of the Quran and what it teaches, and the sects of people who interpret it in MUSLIM TERRORIST ways????
    • InfidelAl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Indeed. Read the actual material. Read the early biographies of Mohamed's life. Read the Quran. Read the Suna. Read any number of Hadiths. I too once thought that terrorism was all the fault of some small extremist sect. Unfortunately the material that fuels these people is all in their holy books. How am I a racist/bigot/islamophobe because I am against pedophilia? (Mohamed consummated his marriage with his youngest wife when she was 9 years old). How am I a racist/bigot/islamophobe when I'm against subjugation? (Read up on the jizya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya) How am I a racist/bigot/islamophobe because I'm against spousal abuse? (The Koran specifically authorizes you to beat your wife if she misbehaves. #34 in this translation http://www.al-sunnah.com/call_to_islam/quran/pickthall/surah4.html) Read the material, then comment.
  • NoSubmission, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14How can anyone hate dancing and free and artistic expression? Everything about this is wrong.
  • inurb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17This just casts even more negative light on Muslims. They are pretty arrogant with their demands here. Why don't they just open up Muslim school that cater to their strict religious code? Why are they forcing the majority to adhere to the minority? If the British parliament caters to these silly demands then whatever shred of backbone they had will be gone. I never understood how England came to have such a concentration of Muslims within it's population whereas not so much in other European countries.
    • drizek, on 10/12/2007, -17/+2A story from a racist righ-wing website casts a bad light on muslims? Whodda thunk it?
    • deesine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12drizek,

      Since when is Islam a race? Oh, that's right, it's not. You just ignore all logical boundaries in your quest to smear the messenger (racist), rather than take on the message.
  • Hensworth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9It must be april fool's day for muslims because I thought they were serious for a second, funniest thing I've read all day.
  • eddyc, on 10/12/2007, -20/+12I'm wondering who's worse, radical muslim fascists, or radical rightwing littlegreenfootball fascists. Hmmm

    I'm gonna have to call this a tie,

    Some of the comments on here regarding this article are frankly disturbing and dont help anyone. I hate radicalism of any kind. I'd advise anyone who believes that the UK or europe in general is becoming somehow infiltrated with extreemism to come over here and see exactly how 'bad' it really is, or at least try to get your news from a better website.
    • Skid32, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13You really think that the original article was written by LGF? It wasn't. The only reason LGF has it is because there is no easy to access Digg link on the original site like there is on LGF, and therefor the post on LGF had a greater chance of being dugg than where the article originated.
    • Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21How about the BBC you ignorant *****.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6382083.stm

      I hate people who want to debate the SOURCE of information rather than the information itself.

      I hope you like Sharia law, 'cuz it's going to be jammed up your ass inch by inch over the next few decades...unless you stop it.
    • eddyc, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1Sorry mate, paranoia and hate isnt really appealing to me right now, and my comment seemed perfectly viable, some muslims are fascist and some LGF readers are too.

      Welcome to my block list and try and lighten up
  • member57, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"And while the MCB insists that all British children should learn about Islam, it wants Muslims to have the right to withdraw their children from RE lessons dealing with Christianity and other faiths."

    When will we stop these muslims. If we give in to their demands now, they will have the children brainwashed into suicide bombers.
    • scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Clue: despite what this article and most of the commenters in this thread seem to think, nobody is going to actually give in to any of these demands. They're just smiling at them letting them have their say... and that will be the end of it.
    • agitate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Boy I hope you're right scabbers.
  • intrepidDesign, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I do agree that there needs to be some cultural awareness for not just Muslims, but all cultures. Just as in the United States where African Americans and their culture is identified and respected. For the most part affirmative action has been a positive force, and while there are still inequities, everyone is getting along much better than they did say 50 years ago. That being said I don’t think that all the changes these particular Muslims want are reasonable. Everything is so polarized these days, where is the middle ground? Ramadan consideration....maybe, but they need to get over public showers and sex ed. Maybe if both sides flex a little on the issue everyone will gain a greater awareness and respect for the other. Or maybe that's just a pipe dream.
  • Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8"Link Directly to the Source: Save people time by linking directly to the original news story."

    http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=1264
  • Imus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Or you can go read the report yourselves:

    http://www.mcb.org.uk/downloads/Schoolinfoguidance.pdf

    Not quite the list of "Taliban" style demands the article made it out to be, is it. After every recommendation the report goes on to say that if a student doesn't want to participate or the school can't accommodate, then the student should be excused.

    Buried for being the product of knee-jerk conservatives. Bury away, neoclowns.
    • AnotherCanadian, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5yeah, i'm not digging simply because of the lack of neutrality in the article. very poor journalism
    • stlic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Thanks for the link. I wonder how many of the above commenters bothered to read the actual publication. As a guideline to help schools understand the concerns of a minority group it seems sound. In particular I would like some clarification of the original articles "all schools should bring in effective bans for all pupils on “un-Islamic activities” like dance classes." Also the RE issue which seems to be contentious is covered with a far more even stroke than portrayed.

      I can on be critical of the above poorly researched comments and those that dugg them. I ask for everyone to simply read the "offending" publication and make your own minds up. It's also worth noting that degree of religious objections vary from parent to parent and the MCB publication seeks to clarify potential objections so that schools may be prepared when they present themselves.
  • AngryRepublican, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6The success of Western culture has been largely due to the openness of our society and a free exchange of ideas. We are educators, innovators, and liberators. THAT is why we are economic powerhouses and why people immigrate HERE for work and freedoms. It makes no sense that they escape oppressive and downtrodden conditions and then try to recreate them here. In fact, it’s absolutely retarded.

    Luckily, the spread of secularism is applicable to Islam as well. I can’t see religion gaining any more ground in the west. Hell, America is the most religious of the Western nations, and Christians are still losing battles over sex ed, gay marriage, faith-based initiatives, and abortion. I think that all this anti-Islamic fear-mongering is a waste of time because they won’t get squat.
    • LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Except it does seem that a large secular segment of the population is more amenable to Islam than to Christianity, just on the grounds of ecumenicism. A lot of people seem to favor Islam as the "underdog", and Christianity as the oppressive majority, while missing the fact that while Islam might be a minority in their country, it's hardly a minority religion (one of the world's largest).
    • AngryRepublican, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah... no, I don't buy that. Islam definitely has a worse image than Christianity.
  • VAGamer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Where is this all headed? I see Western institutions under attack from a nascent Islam. Until recently, however, the West has largely ignored the threat. Some in the West (e.g. Denmark) appear to be reacting to save their culture. Others (e.g. France, England, et al.) appear to be making a series of minor surrenders in order to avoid violence.

    Will the inevitable clash include low-level violence or do we truly face a clash of civilizations?
  • daekfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10All this is likely to do is make normal people dislike Muslims even more. What they are demanding is completely unreasonable, I will be really pissed off if the government let this happen and I am actually quite liberal. This isn't multiculturalism, this is forcing beliefs onto other people, something I completely despise.
    • Bridgetown, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11You're just now, as a liberal, figuring this out about these people? Well, better late than never.
  • JJsays, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Well, you better do as they say. That's what the election was about.
  • zoroo20, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6you guys are crazy !!!
    there is no point in having conversion with some one without letting him speak
    try reading about Islam then judge it
    start with wiki and Google video

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=islam&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&sa=N&tab=wv

    • hulehvalley, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I know enough to know that you worship a man that married a 6yr old girl.

      And that your "religion" is based upon proselytisation through violence and intimidation.

      -----------
      koran 9:29

      Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
      -----------

      And FYI, some of us will never pay jizya.
    • zoroo20, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1i don't think you have the full picture
      try getting your info from neutral sources

      LOOK I FOUND YOU ONE
      READ WIKI
      AND DISCOVER THAT HE DIDN'T MARRY 6Y OLD
      AND TO KNOW WHAT IS JEZYA
    • zoroo20, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1AGAIN YOU CAN'T HIDE THE SUN WITH YOUR HAND !!!!
    • bluto36, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11so i can say any thing about Mohamed(ppp4life) or make any cartoon about Mohammad (salami salami bologna)without the Muslim world going bat *****?

      /will i have to wipe my ass with my left hand to be complaint with sharia?
    • Arch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I've read about Islam and my conclusion is that it's a disgusting and backward religion that belongs in the 7th century.

      Welcome to the 21st century, btw.
    • LordLucless, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You're saying that Wikipedia is a more authoritative source on Islam than the Koran (which the parent quoted)? Awesome...

      *logs in to edit Islam entry*
    • Junn168, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2***** Islam.
  • formercorpsman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6September 3rd, 1939

    or

    Non-Aggression Treaty
  • ilolled, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7While i may not agree with this, I'd defend their right to put it forward.

    It's called democracy.
    • 2ndRevolution, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I don't know what the hell it is over there, but the US is a Constitutional Republic NOT a democracy. I'll be dead long before I'll be subjected to their muslim sharia *****. I'll take a bunch of them with me in the process.

      You can defend their 'right' and then be one of the first ones killed when you don't convert. Ever hear the story of the frog and the scorpion? Obviously not.
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