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- maggiesboy, on 06/22/2008, -9/+191This is a time for CHANGE, not capitulation. Why in the world is Congress caving in to a President with a 29% approval rating? You'd think a legislative body with a 12% approval rating would be willing to take names and kick ass.
- inactive, on 06/22/2008, -8/+142This can be the beginning of the change Obama promised, but he must keep his promise to stop this bill. If necessary, he must stand on the senate floor and filibuster by himself to prevent passage of this criminal act. Then all America will believe in him. Otherwise, we will begin to manifest serious doubts. He will beat McCain handily either way, but if he wants the full trust and support of the nation....if he wants to REALLY accomplish grassroots change, now is the time to demonstrate that he, as a Constitutional law professor, understands that the Constitution must be applied equally across the board and backroom deals like this are no longer acceptable.
- FTWmovin2canada, on 06/22/2008, -13/+118If he doesn't get the Telecom immunity removed in the Senate, he should pledge to pursue a criminal investigation as President.
- mrgreg, on 06/23/2008, -10/+88This is the point where everyone who has been drinking his "Change" Kool-Aid the past year will finally see his true colors. Either Obama will be true to his word, and prove that he meant that things will change by NOT voting for, and filibusting, this bill, or he will be seen as just another in a line of spineless Democrats who make claims of change to get voted into office, yet do nothing when push comes to shove (2006 elections, anyone?). If he votes for this bill, he should change his slogan to "Compromise We Can Believe In," since his whole "Change" routine will be exposed as a fraud.
- WebWizard, on 06/22/2008, -4/+76There's talk, and then there's action. Show Me!
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -5/+54If this man is worth his word, he'll stick to it. Otherwise, he'll be seen as every other political leader we've ever had.
But again...what will people do if he refuses? NONE of America EVER holds their leaders responsible for anything. Bush has set the precedent and it will stand. This administration has pushed the realms of reality and the limits of humanity and Americans have swallowed every single thing fed to them.
And the same will happen with the next leader. They've passed the test. They've figured it out. They know now that they can do anything they want and nobody will make a peep. And if they did, they'd just pull out that big lazer that disperses crowds by burning through their skin. - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -3/+34Wow...maybe, just maybe...they are all the same...
- hugolp, on 06/23/2008, -11/+39No offense, but as a European I am very amaze that US people accept this kind of laws knowing how much they hate comunism. We have our problems in Europe and I am pretty sure every goverment spy ileagllly on its citizens, but make it legal? like in the URSS? and the US? I would have never spected something like that.
- Barackalypse, on 06/23/2008, -8/+35He'll probably just skip the vote on it, but if by some chance he does show up and cast a vote for it with immunity still in tact, he will simply issue a speech like he did when he voted to re-authorize the Patriot Act and most of his followers won't care.
- Mortiky, on 06/23/2008, -1/+26Um... Dennis Kucinich is not a Senator. I believe Dennis did vote "Nay" in the house and spoke up against this bill.
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -30/+54That's a double wammy.
Huffingtonpost quoting MoveOn!
I should be able to bury that TWICE - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -19/+42Obama take a risk?
Seriously? - cubiccavepearls, on 06/22/2008, -9/+31Make your position known, pledge to divest from the Obama campaign if he DOES vote to give retroactive telecom immunity:
http://www.pledgebank.com/divestobama - AndySavage, on 06/23/2008, -3/+25I'm a fierce Obama supporter, and I'm not gonna lie, I felt a bit let down when he didn't speak out against this ***** "compromise." It was the first time I've really disagreed with his stance on a major point-- I think he knows what's right here, it's just high time for him to follow through with it and make the right decision. I have a good feeling he will come around to it though.
- andy314159pi, on 06/23/2008, -3/+24Most Americans think a filibuster is a sort of cheese-steak sandwich.
- Chemistry003, on 06/22/2008, -7/+28We need to get someone to call for Filibuster, Obama might not follow through... Dennis Kucinich might? or Chris Dodd? We need to get the public to know that this is wrong and the if infringes on our 4th amendment right! We need to get Obama to call for Filibuster, that would show that he stands for CHANGE!
- superkendall, on 06/23/2008, -6/+26And what are THEY going to do if he doesn't, not back Obama? Unlikely!
- alphasixtyone, on 06/23/2008, -14/+32how about keeping his word on public campaign financing.
- kosser, on 06/23/2008, -6/+23lets see if obama can do 1 right thing, unlike voting for the patriot act, and voting yes to appropriating the war in iraq.
- zugzug01, on 06/23/2008, -11/+25How do you like your change now ? Put down the cool-aid.
- zugzug01, on 06/23/2008, -2/+16U mean the sheep don't care ?
- MitchHenderson, on 06/23/2008, -1/+15Because, I suspect, a lot of those warrantless wiretaps accidentally found their way onto the phones of Congressmen. Wonder how many Spitzers (or Foleys) are out there?
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -1/+15I'm an American and I can say that the apathy is caused because as individuals in this extremely corrupted electorial process, our votes and voice haven't done ***** for over 30 years. Politicians just simply don't care when their palms are being greased by the corps, other countries, and special interests. When you can slip your rep a couple hundred grand to have your way, you'll have your way.....
Sad but true. I've been screaming on digg that Obama is a charlatan for months and constantly get dug down..... He's a FRAUD! They all are! - georgemason01, on 06/23/2008, -1/+15I would love to see a submission from Huffington Post get marked as inaccurate. It is a blog, not a news site, yet this stuff still gets pushed to the front page rather than actual news articles about the story.
- GhostyBoy, on 06/23/2008, -4/+17I have mixed feelings on Obama. I like him, but I don't trust him.
This will be a litmus test. - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -8/+20Obama has already proven he will not keep his word with the American people.
- Firehed, on 06/23/2008, -3/+15Yes, it is time for a change. Especially since clinching his party's nomination, Obama has proven that the most he'll do is promise it and not deliver. Giving a "when I'm president I'll go back and fix it" rather than VOTING AGAINST BAD LAWS? His approach was ***** and anyone believing otherwise should lay off the kool-ade.
Will he go back if he becomes president and deal with it? Possibly, but I doubt it. I've heard so many pledges for change and never an action to back it. Nothing is ever fixed after the fact in this country, so passing laws with insane/illegal/unconstitutional provisions with the intent of going back later and dealing with them is just pandering to idiots. - JHB800, on 06/23/2008, -3/+13He's always been 'just another politician'. He just hid it behind sparkling words and generous promises. He won't fight this, because all the moderates and independents will hear if he does is that he 'made america less safe'. which is not true, but you guys know how all of this stuff gets spun)
Obama could have been something great, but since he's now a serious contender for president, he can't afford to take any risks. - Jareth86, on 06/23/2008, -2/+12Obama had better be careful with this. Its one thing to play to the other side, but when you lose your base, you've lost the election.
Besides, how often do you see McCain or Bush playing to the left? Never. - kenplaysviola, on 06/23/2008, -1/+11Because Americans have amnesia and/or don't even know who their representatives are. They get to hide behind in numbers.
- alphasixtyone, on 06/23/2008, -0/+10not sure if getting things done is such a great things. example, the passing of this law. Id prefer things not getting done.
- Kikinou, on 06/23/2008, -4/+14And so it begins.
- ralphthemagi, on 06/23/2008, -1/+11Actually, the telecoms charge the government... so it is part of their business model. Wiretapping the old phone system is actually quite expensive. It's not like in the movies where you just flip a switch. You didn't think that publicly traded companies were just going to do that for free, now did you?
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -1/+11MMmmmmm cheese steak
- Sarevok9, on 06/23/2008, -1/+10Why does everyone make his candidacy to be about the color of his skin? I'm pretty sure the secret service do their job well, so I'm sure risks are all assessed without his skin color playing a role.
- brstilson, on 06/23/2008, -1/+10"Warrant-less wiretaps aren't technically illegal."
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"They were made legal by the USA PATRIOT Act. "
NO they weren't. This bill is a completely different piece of legislation. - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -4/+13I can't wait to see Obama take time off from the campaign trail to participate in a filibuster.
- jerbaker, on 06/23/2008, -0/+8"they hurt his candidacy with this stunt."
That's kinda the point. We want it to hurt his candidacy. We don't want a candidate who will cave to granting get out of jail free cards to corporations who willingly violated the Constitutional rights of American citizens. I voted for Nader in 2000 because Al Gore was trying to be as centrist as he could. That was his right, but it cost him the election, and rightly so IMHO. I voted for Nader again in 2004 because Kerry tried the same DLC crap. I have no qualms about voting for Nader a third time if Obama decides to compromise principles. Someday, somebody who can actually change things inside the Democratic Party might get the hint that if they keep pulling this spineless centrist crap, they are going to lose and it's their base that will be happy to bring them their own defeat. - bleutuna, on 06/23/2008, -1/+9Agreed 100%. This guy has the LOWEST approval rating ever. Why on earth does anyone feel the need to appease anyone or anything even remotely associated with his trainwreck of a tenure in office.
Damnit, Barack, I WILL write in Ron Paul. Don't tempt me. - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+8"You can't win an election without the majority." *Ahem* The 2000 presidential election says otherwise (to name just one).
- DaDrake, on 06/23/2008, -4/+12Hmm .... opting out on his promise to the American public to use public funds...... supporting telecom immunity .... I wonder if Obama is trying to get all his controversial baggage out before the election so he can mend the damage?
- brstilson, on 06/23/2008, -0/+8Ariana Huffington is fueled by the souls of the damned.
I smell a new internet meme. - akatsuki, on 06/23/2008, -0/+8I sorta agree. I am disillusioned. Even if he does come to filibuster the measure, it will be too late as far as I am concerned. This was a real issue, an important issue, and he came late and reluctantly to the party.
- bleutuna, on 06/23/2008, -0/+7Greg, I have to admit - you're right. He kept saying and doing the right things, but this is a monumental *****.
I'll drop my support real quick if he fails on this. We need some sort of explanation, some sort of action that's true, and that doesn't real like a coward's answer to standing up.
We want leaders who stand, not leaders who promise to stand and then lay down whenever the gunfire starts. - deadbaby, on 06/23/2008, -6/+13Because when the next 9/11 happens the neo-cons will come out and say "we could have stopped this if Obama had just voted for telecom immunity" and the voters have proven they are terrified children with a vindictive nature when it comes to terrorism so they'll fall for it.
We're going to be feeling the effects of Bush's irresponsible post-9/11 fear mongering for decades to come. It permanently changed the nature of politics in this country for the worse. - Rodalli, on 06/23/2008, -0/+7Ariana Huffington killed the radio star.
Ariana Huffington marches to the rhythmic wails of a thousand starved infants. - bleutuna, on 06/23/2008, -1/+8Yes. Thank you, MoveOn. Because I am one who is a HUGE Obama supporter, but we all need to pounce on him for this.
He needs to realize it was his supporters that got him into this position, and if he screws around and starts backtracking, we'll lose faith in him.
And really, ugh...I don't wanna lose faith in ANOTHER freakin' candidate. - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -6/+13More pointless whining, huh?
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