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- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -8/+46As I recall, in the Republican primaries Ron Paul had the most support from the military.
- Bilabrin, on 07/02/2008, -3/+19Yea that's correct, Ron Paul got more donations from military personelle than any other candidate.
That means when it came time to put your money where your mouth is, Ron Paul wins. The other candidates may have done better in polling but those who stood firm when it was time to put up or shut up turned out to be Paul supportes. Money talks, ***** walks.
Furthermore, I find it funny that the article implies that McCain is the one to vote for for Veterens benifits. That old fraud vetoed benifits over and over again!
http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/ ...
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/05 ... - pintomp3, on 07/02/2008, -10/+22duh. would you support the guy who wants to bring you home to be with your family or the guy who wants to keep you there to die?
- VCubed, on 07/02/2008, -10/+20Obama has received more donations from military personnel than McCain! Who knew? Since McCain gets the most backing from big-wig brass, that must mean the enlisted service men and women are shelling out the cash to help Barack! "Obama has collected more than $327,000 from those identifying themselves as military personnel, while McCain has collected $224,000, according to an analysis of Federal Election Commission data by The Associated Press." Whoa. I'm so broke it hurts, but if our soldiers can donate so much, I can find a way to give again too.
- djcreamy, on 07/02/2008, -4/+14This article is dead on. I'm in the armed forces (active duty). Obama is immensely popular with the younger crowd, and guess who the military is mostly comprised of? These young service members have to balance their mission (war) with Obama's message of peace (well, more peaceful than McCain). Make no mistake, it's difficult and emotional for many. Being home with the family is not always on their minds; more than anything they seek job satisfaction. That satisfaction comes from knowing they've made a difference. Obama's message and show of support is truly helping win over the military.
Still voting Paul or Barr. - SpinningHead, on 07/02/2008, -2/+12According to ProjectVoteSmart, Obama has also gotten "A" ratings from groups like Disabled American Veterans for voting with them, while McCain has gotten "D's"
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -2/+13And it is also possible 97% of the military (the percentage not donating to anyone) doesn't give a flying ***** about all this politics crap.
- Rodman930, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8I'm a Lieutenant in the Military and I don't know anyone who is not for Obama ( or at lest anyone who would admit it). It's probably because I'm only around young Officers and young Soldiers. I've given $150, so I'm sure he has a lot more young Soldiers giving him less than $200 than McCain does, but we didn't count in this survey. (Edit: a lot of them liked Ron Paul too.)
- GunnerMan, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5Wow Koft, I hope you don't call yourself American.
- Xihix, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5Oh boy, exit polls.
- lightmartyr, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Wishing death upon someone when they're in a situation were death is a very real possibility. Douchebag simply doesn't cut it.
- NelsonR, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3You are a conservative follower of Nationalistic ideologies that prevail to the world's demise. Every nation is endowed with idiots that cause misery and death and you my illiterate follower is the reason the world will be in a continuous dysfunctional mode. May your nationalistic tendencies send you to hell when your time comes. You probably think god is awaiting with bated breath for your righteous arrival. He isn't.
- langdonalger, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4wish this had another link. it's impossible to make a point to anyone from this source, they go into immediate shut-down mode.
- Barackalypse, on 07/03/2008, -3/+6Hey, look over here, ignore what Obama's doing with the FISA bill, and lets instead talk about who's donating to him! Pathetic, and buried.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4 I dislike the Fascist attitude of the Leaders of the States. But, do believe that most Military people are honorable, and are tired of following the orders of less honorable men.
- Hetman, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3Maybe they actually care for the people of Iraq and do not want to leave it in shambles. I personally agree that we should end the war as soon as possible. But I have never been to Iraq so I believe the soldier who supports McCain is doing it because he feels it is the right thing to do. Not for any political reasons.
- SpinningHead, on 07/02/2008, -2/+5He married an heiress. He doesn't have to worry about what happens to most vets.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4But a democrat, and democratic party started and ran the vietnam war.
- CyphreDias, on 07/03/2008, -2/+4THE MEDIA TOTALLY CONTROLS OUR ELECTIONS. Wolf Blitzer did an a report on CNN several months ago. At this time, McCain had only 3% of the vote for the Republican nomination. Wolf was responding to accusations that Ron Paul was not getting enough press coverage. Wolf cited statistics from an organization that tracks how often names are mentioned on TV. According to the statistics read by Wolf, McCain's name was mentioned 1000s of time more often than Ron Paul's. THE MEDIA TOTALLY CONTROLS OUR ELECTIONS... and they admit it knowing you can't do anything about it.
- JHB800, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2You're ***** retarded. McCain supported the GI Bill. What he did not support was the fact that Webb's version of the bill did not allow benefits to be transferrable to spouses and significant others. (which McCain's version did) That transferability was the most important thing that the GI's were asking for from their politicians, and Webb's bill completely ignored that request.
- GunnerMan, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2The guy who wants to keep me there in my case.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -9/+11Why would anyone give money to Mccain? He's basically saying you're his pawn in this war game and he could give a ***** about you. How does it feel being a tool for someone else's power/money/oil play?
Then again, obama is no different sending them to afghanistan. How about everyone just come home and defend the borders instead? Sounds like a plan to me! - giddytonk, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3An observation I have made, as a general rule, is that most of the folks that have a military past, but never had to actually fight in a war tend to be pro-Republican.
Those that have actually fought in wars, are not pro-Republican, or become anti-Republican later. No, it's not always true, but it is something I have noticed. - GunnerMan, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Ok im not going to fight numbers here but I wish it were more broken down, per service/per personel actually deployed.
I know it can be hard for someone who has been deployed 3 times or more to support someone who wants to keep them over there longer. I also would like to know of the numbers for how many have donated who have not been in theatre, my guess would be the ones who don't have a tour under their belt that are just fed the standard media like the rest of the populace favor Obama.
Then you have the units like mine with 3 tours under their belts and asking for more. I think it depends on the service your in and the mission as well. Doing 3 tours in Iraq as say a "Cook" is not going to be the best experence and even though youre there you miss a lot and time goes a lot slower and will probably lead you to question your existence there when you could be at home cooking for your wife.
Also from what I have seen is contrary to the belife here the younger populace of the military(were talking 18-21 or so) really don't follow politics at all, they know it is all *****. They signed up to serve and thats exactly what they want to do, look at the Marines, in the Marines it can be a sad day when you finish out your tour without a deployment.
Please remeber not everyone follows or cares about politics and they have good reason not to. These numbers for Mcain and Obama are very low in my eyes and exemplifies my point that most of the military don't follow news much and the ones that don't are the ones that want to go to theatre, they want to get that deployment, they want to serve. I will tell you from first hand experience there is great antisentiment for anyone who wants to stop them from getting that.
Trying to forumlate how military personel care about the war/s or the candidates by some negligeable donation numbers is a bit of a stretch.
ALSO ALL servicemen and women need to remeber is wars will never be short again, when we get into a conflict we are in it for the long haul and they need to remember America WILL leave them behind after a short time, they need to keep their heads high through all of that and keep fighting the good fight even when the last person has stoped beliving in you. All you need is the guy to your left and your right for support. Get the job done and come home not a minute earlyer. Iraq, the world and America may hate us for it now but if some good rises out of it, if we can leave there, if we can leave Iraq as a self dependent nation of free and happy people. That freedom and the word of greatness will flow through the land and the world will look at us better than they ever have. Freedom was never free, what we have here has cost us a LOT of dark days, it has cost us a LOT of lives, and a LOT of money. Our nation is growing as a nation of quiters, we can not develop that mindset, we must push on and tell ourselves we can do this, we can accomplish this. That is why America is great: because when we put our minds to it we got it done, and in record time and better than anyone could imagine. Keep pushing on. Lets show our country and the world what we are capable of even in the toughest of times. There are still people who stand behind you...don't let them down. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2 And who are you going to blame for the largest lost of Military people in Afghanistan last month? What is going to be funny, is when all the Neo-conservatives realize that the war on terror has been inept. But, I think the World knows that FEAR is a Neo-conservatives greatest deciding factor on any topic.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -3/+5I was beginning to wonder when another huffingtonpost article was going to show up. It has been
at least 20 whole minutes and I've been itching to bury one.
Thanks, Digg! - chispito, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3Strange, since McCain is himself technically a disabled vet. You'd think he'd address their issues better.
- pianomahnn, on 07/02/2008, -2/+3They would give money to McCain for the same reasons they elected Bush twice; extreme idiocy and utter lack of rational or logical thought.
- JHB800, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1No he did not.
- inactive, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1You've gotta be kidding. You girls believe that in today's volunteer army any appreciable number of professional soldiers support Barack Hussein Obama? Sure they'll find one or two. You'll find one or two with an extra toe too.
But in any numbers that matter? Come on. That's why they're citing VETERANS not current soldiers. That includes draftees from WW I, WW II, the Korean War, and Viet Nam vets. - noahhoward, on 07/03/2008, -3/+4I have to say, this is a well written balanced look at it. I wish we could get more articles without the extreme bias left or right. It's a shame the comments here can't be the same.
- chispito, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that you never invoke Hitler in a serious debate.
- publiclurker, on 07/03/2008, -2/+3Not unless it's an appropriate comparison.
- NelsonR, on 07/02/2008, -5/+6Doesn't take a rocket scientists to know that we are now parroting Hitler in the world and most troops are not idiots. It's one thing to go to war against an attack on Pearl Harbor by a nation who declared war but it is another thing to think Iraq is a noble cause. It isn't, it's a war of aggression by our elite and upper crust. F them.
Elect John McCain and you deserve your demise. - SpinningHead, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1You're right, genius. Being married to a trust-funder probably has no affect on his quality of life or access to health care. Thats must be why conservatives never made an issue of John Kerry's marriage to a wealthy woman.
- DrPh0bius, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2lol!
- GhostyBoy, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2That's the impression I have gotten from most military people who I have met.
They do their job, that's what they are trained to do, and they want to get home alive. They don't usually go about spouting their political opinions. - swrostmore, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1redacted
- JigoroKano, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2Yes, at all times Paul and Obama were getting more donations from active duty military than their competitors.
It is very telling. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -4/+5Can we rename Digg to "The Huffington Post" yet?
- Julik, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1How far do these stats go back? McCain won the nomination way before Obama did... there were a lot of people donating to Obama while he was trying to win the nomination... there was not nearly as many people worried about donating to McCain during that time.
- phrenzy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1How does it feel to be in Bush's 23% crew?
- JHB800, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1It is not the responsibility of average soldiers to decide policy. To do so would cause chaos in the military.
- JHB800, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2How stupid are you? McCain proposed a GI benefits bill at the exact same time as Webb's, but it allowed benefits to be transferred to significant others, something which was notably absent in Webb's bill. (and something which was the reason why a new benefits bill was written in the first place) He didn't support Webb's because Webb's did not provide what the GI's were actually asking for.
- smackjack, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1A month ago I would have buried your comment, but now I'm starting to agree with you. It seems as though their entire business model is getting traffic from Digg.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Neither have most Democrats...misleading.
- doublebummer, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1FTA: An AP-Yahoo News poll conducted last month, found that veterans favored McCain over Obama 49 percent to 32 percent, while the two candidates ran about even in the population as a whole.
- giddytonk, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Agreed. My how things have changed!
- JHB800, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1Godwin's Law.
You lose. - girwen, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1job satisfaction has nothing to do with it. It's loyalty to your buddies first until you can get home which is what you really want, but you cannot control that so your priorities are survival and taking care of your buddies ant the order flipflops
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