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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -16/+218If Kucinich or Gravel doesn't make the nomination then the Democrats will have shown they don't care about truth. Same goes for Ron Paul and the Republicans.
- nakani, on 10/10/2007, -9/+165I'm a registered Republican and plan on voting for Ron Paul, but I can't help but admire Gravel's efforts to bring truth to the Democratic candidates.
- LarryLacuna, on 10/10/2007, -10/+95I wish Gravel had a change of winning, it's nice to see honesty in a presidential candidate.
- tucsonsun13, on 10/10/2007, -4/+83For the candidates in both parties' "debates" on cable tv:
1. Distance from center inversely proportional to campaign funds.
2. Speaking time directly proportional to campaign funds.
3. Candidates with least chance of winning = most honest, free-speaking. - Harboggles, on 10/10/2007, -9/+64I love Gravel. I think he has the experience and knowledge to be a president combined with the wisdom. I would give my left nut to see it come out to be Gravel Vs. Ron Paul.
However.
Gravel and Ron Paul have a minimal chance of winning. Then again, Carter had 2% recognition when he started.
Gravel needs to stop coming off as the crazy old man and Ron Paul needs to change one or two of his policies (Withdrawing from the UN? We can't deny the existence of problems in the World) - Wonkanobi, on 10/10/2007, -4/+56I found it quite funny how, as Obama pointed out, the only reason Gravel knew where the money was coming from is because of Obama's bill that required campaign finance disclosure.
Commence digg down... - kaelyiesta, on 10/10/2007, -4/+46Time to make my second presidential campaign donation. This guy needs to be heard as much as possible.
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/10/2007, -4/+44The only thing stopping Gravel, Kucinich, or Paul from getting the nomination is the knowledge of the American people (i.e. brainwashing of the main stream media). We here at Digg need to do our part to relay this message to our circle of influence. Best of luck diggers.
- dgh1973, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39Mixing money from special interest groups with politicians is probably the single most dangerous thing about the way our country works.
Separation of corporation and state should be just as important as separation of church and state IMHO. - jamesallen74, on 10/10/2007, -4/+41It will show they don't care about the people, the workers, the poor and middle class.
- davebg8r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+34Gravel and Paul do have a chance at winning. Vote for them, support them, encourage others to do so. DO NOT give in to the mentality of 'well they wont win so I wont waste my vote' or a something similar. The current system only continues because you compromise and continue to support it. Take a stand and have the convictions to hold that stand in the face of adversity.
- Disillusion, on 10/10/2007, -3/+37People need to stop saying ***** like "Gravel has as much chance of being president as he does matching Hillary's money." Many people get locked into the mindset that they have to vote for one of the "top" people as told to us by the media, because otherwise their vote is wasted. It's thinking like this that will doom us all. Don't tell people "Gravel is great, but he doesn't have a chance in hell to win," because now you just told that person to go vote for Hillary or Obama.
Gravel FTW! - zweben, on 10/10/2007, -2/+34Vote for him anyway. One of the biggest reasons he doesn't have a chance of winning is because you think he doesn't have a chance of winning and vote elsewhere.
- UglieJosh, on 10/10/2007, -3/+35Vote Gravel and you get a vote. He believes in letting the people making the major decisions rather than the representatives we elect.
I would rather we, ourselves, be the morons that sink this country, than have someone else do it for us. - Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25 I'm already convinced they don't care about these groups of people already.
- tucsonsun13, on 10/10/2007, -6/+29well said.
- Lionhart, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21He does have a chance. I don't know if you remember but when Clinton started running he was a longshot candidate just like Gravel.
- jamesallen74, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20That being said, we need 2 things in this country.
1. Government leaders that represent DEMOCRACY and the COMMON MAN.
2. The COMMON MAN needs to GET more educated on issues and get more involved in the community/nation to make this better. Not rely SOLELY on someone else to fix things. - AnarkeIncarnate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19BINGO! Somebody gets it. Self fulfilling prophecy FTW!
- ddxChrist, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19It's a shame that all of these articles from the media on Gravel or Paul close with a line akin to: "Well, it's too bad they won't actually get elected." Why is that necessary? It pretty much demonstrates that they don't want these politicians to gain popularity. Repeating that these candidates have no chance will only serve to psychologically dissuade people from gaining interest in them.
- rhysmd, on 10/10/2007, -6/+24I wonder if the money the health care industry gives Hillary, Obama, and Romney just indicates how much the industry would like the feds taking money from Americans and giving it to the companies.
- NSMike, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19This is the difference between a politician and a statesman. Party lines don't matter to the statesman when he's working for the best thing for the state.
- andrgo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16I like Mike! Seriously, vote for this guy next year!
- jamesallen74, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18Like Tony Benn said in Sicko, if we had TRUE democracy (like the people vote directly on issues) the poor would come out and vote for what represents them. It would take the power away FROM the wallet (Wall Street, banking, corporate greed, rich politicians) TO the polling station. And then you would see a REAL revolution. Now THAT would be an interesting day in the USA. Scary and exciting. To see what the COMMON man really wants.
Watch and LISTEN to what he says: http://www.bennites.com/SICKO.html - neckfire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I am voting for Gravel- if you feel he is right tell people you are going to vote for him and see how many people come around. He can win if you change your tune. The "there is no way he will win" argument is *****, speak your opinion and watch people follow.
- deadsenator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I don't care what anybody says. I'd vote for him. Heck, I'll even write in his name if he doesn't win the nomination. I refuse to vote for the same talking (and lying) heads any longer.
- NSMike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13It's incredibly frustrating to see this mindset, because the media is acting the same way, and SO MANY Americans rely on the media to tell them what to think. After all, why should the debates shrink and eliminate candidates? Why SHOULDN'T we have six or more candidates up for President from each party? Why does it have to be one of each? Why do we have such an archaic system? And why do we the people let others decide who we should have left to vote for?
- Calann, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Baloney, if this was true, Bush and Cheney would have attacked another country in order to destroy their infrastructure, just so that they could give their corporate construction buddies huge reconstruction contracts.
Oh Wait... Nevermind. - NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Sad, but true, our presidential process is really messed up... Follow the money as Gravel says... We need to ban Lobbyists and corporate donations...
- Stewmoney, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Dugg ya... So true, why does it have to be like this? Why can't people just vote for the honest person instead of the one with all the money.
- Seefate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Neocon's need to get out, yes. But we don't need to replace them with the other side of the same coin. If you this Hilliary or Obama are going to do much better then think again, they just have a different brand of corruption.
- catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Probably someone with nothing to hide.
- slicedoranges, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11If Kucinich or Gravel get elected, my faith in America would be renewed (finally).
- skyh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The reason these big companies are interested in certain candidates is because they believe they can get them to do what they want. It has everything to do with trying to get richer, and nothing to do with wanting what's best for the people. If the people benefit, it's just a coincidence.
- Xevec, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Ok, I used to think gravel sucked...but now I am seeing the true light about him. Oh dear god, he is a breath of fresh air to the DEMOCRATS. Ha, he's exposing the idea that the democratic "leaders" are not as good as they seem to be. He is attacking Clinton, Obama, and Edwards(who all said the SAME EXACT THING during the CNN/youtube debate on health care).
Also, Bill Clinton was once in Gravel's and Paul's position. He was an "unknown." But he became president. Anything can happen people. That is all I am saying about their chance of winning.
But personally, I can not vote for Gravel because of his views on economics. I believe he does support universal health care and expansion of government services. I can not endorse such a thing. But if Ron Paul does win the nomination...I hope TO GOD hillary wins...since Ron Paul can easily destroy her. - PrettyMuchBryce, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10He was saying that vietnam was pointless, and that the soldiers in vietnam died in vain. We trade with them now, but they're still a communist country. Over 3 million people died and for what? That's dying in vain if you ask me.
- surfcat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11For the People by the People.........oops What I meant to say was For the Corporation by the Corporation.
- keithburgun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I hate that this article ends with "But I like the fact that he reminds us all just what it costs to win high office and who's paying the way. *" you LIKE the fact that money chooses the president, not the people?!?!?! are you F*KING INSANEEEE?!?!? Everyone how has even the SLIGHTEST GRAIN of curiousity and intellect can tell that he is the only candidate worth voting for (Well, Kucinitch is good too, but he doesn't have the FIRE we need to really fix this country). Thanks Gravel for existing! You can do it
Everyone, tell you friends about him! Please! Word of mouth is his only shot! - Authustian, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14I wish we could see Ron Paul for pres with his running mate being Mike gravel for vp.
But then i guess they'd have to run as independents or libertarians or something. Still, it would be great to see. - frsrblch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9A vote not cast for the person you most want to see win is truly wasted.
- Stewmoney, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8The majority of people on Digg seem to know what's going on. If we can figure it out the rest of the country should be able to.
- boredsam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Not that any of you will read it, but there's an interesting book by Fred S. McChesney called "Money for Nothing: Politicians, Rent Extraction, and Political Extortion" where the case is made that politicians extort money from corporations as opposed to corporations buying politicians. This is known as rent extraction. It is more of a factor for people already in office, but still applies here. Instead of the commonly held belief that companies take their big bag o cash to a politician and say "I want x for y amount of money", the politicians goto the companies and say "give me y amount of money and I will do x for you". This shifts the "evil" factor from the companies and back where it belongs, our elected politicians.
- jarjarjanks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8And thats exacly why the media does it.
- Xevec, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Um....I can't see Ron Paul and Mike gravel agreeing on economic policy. They are polar opposites when they come to that. To the war..they are the few who say "we want IMMEDIATE withdrawl. None of this time ***** that obama and hillary approve of.
- Fallout911, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Mr Gravel is a hero.
I will be voting for him. - cat6, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7@zweben
You're exactly right. Everyone that even considers voting for him needs to realize this. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Agreed. Liberals need to abandon the Democratic party.
- BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12Very true. Just as the case with communism and other utopian systems, unabashed capitalism doesn't work due to the flaws in human nature.
- jarjarjanks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7He doesnt want their money. He cant be bought. He's mad becasue americans are so stupid and dont give a *****
- glasnostic, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Actually, it will show that they care more about assuring a win and hopefully reversing some of the Republican mess then electing a candidate who will spend his time trying to tear down the admittedly corrupt and overblown political system we are all forced to deal with.
We need instant runoff elections. That’s the only way any of these “conscience” candidates will win on the high steaks national stage.
I’m all for getting people like Gravel and Paul into higher offices, but not nearly as much as I want the neo-cons out. -
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