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- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -5/+42Because all of the major newspapers are corporate shills.
- newsfrommars, on 01/07/2008, -7/+41Why would *all* the major newspapers refuse to run a piece by sitting members of congress?
- HughManBeing, on 01/07/2008, -11/+37Thanks Crooks & Liars for publishing this story!!
- TonyLocNE, on 01/07/2008, -0/+24Crooks and Liars didn't publish this story, the Washington Post did. I don't know why this submitter didn't link directly to the WP...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - inactive, on 01/07/2008, -5/+27Wait, this is GEORGE McGovern????
Not, as I had assumed, insane 9/11 conspiracy theorist Ray McGovern????
Holy ***** - George was to the 1972 elections what Kucinich is to 2008, except he was WINNING (until Nixon sank him in the general election)! This man is genuine democrat (small d), the Party would do well to listen to him. - plumfan, on 01/07/2008, -4/+22impeachment, then - prosecution.
- plax3, on 01/07/2008, -1/+15actual article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
- inactive, on 01/07/2008, -8/+19The neocons control the show. Impeachment is impossible.
- alphasixtyone, on 01/07/2008, -1/+9your understanding of natural selection is at about the same level as huckabees
- schwab002, on 01/07/2008, -2/+9I agree with McGovern's sentiment in this article but I believe it's just too late to start impeachment hearings and it might have a negative effect for democrats in the upcoming election. They should have started the process years ago.
It's still good to see it in a major newspaper though.
I love McGovern. His article, "The Way Out of War" written with William Polk a little over a year ago still outlines the best plan I've seen so far in how to end the war in Iraq and begin rebuilding. http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/10/0081225
I wonder what would have happened if he won the '72 election... - inactive, on 01/07/2008, -1/+6They published it because old people actually know who George McGovern was, even if they were surprised to find out he was still alive.
- scottknick, on 01/07/2008, -2/+6"Too late" for what? Impeachment isn't about removing Bush/Cheney from office, it's about holding the President and Vice President accountable for high crimes and misdemeanors. If we can't hold Bush accountable for blatant crimes against the U.S. Constitution, what restraint will any sitting president ever face in the future?
I am a very partisan Democrat, but I believe the Constitution trumps party loyalty here. Congress must defend the Constitution, as they are sworn to do, even if it means their jobs. - inactive, on 01/07/2008, -1/+5That was a good article, highlighting the difference between what George HW Bush accomplished while the sequel was a bust.
- krebcycle, on 01/07/2008, -0/+4George McGovern should have won that race, he lost because Nixon threw a huge smear campaign at him, historically the first general election smear campaign; the public bought it. Nixon won because people thought George was going to continue the vietnam war since he was a democrat and it was a democrat war, even though George said again and again that he wanted to end it. Then once Nixon got into office he extended the war three and a half years.
- SuperMoses, on 01/07/2008, -2/+6Ya, what would a 27-year CIA veteran know about conspiring? /sarcasm
- krebcycle, on 01/07/2008, -0/+3It's the ***** Washington Post jackass, CrooksAndLiars is just linking to it, and it's written by George McGovern, and if you don't know who that is then you should shut the ***** up until you do.
- rmmcclay, on 01/07/2008, -5/+8If impeachment isn't called in regard to Bush and Cheney then what's it for? Before I hit the Submit button did a quick search and found this article expressing exactly my feeling:
Impeach Bush or Get Rid of the Impeachment Clause
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http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/051107Lindorff. ... - alphasixtyone, on 01/07/2008, -1/+4dude, that may be true but it has nothing to do with natural selection. that's all i said. Natural selection is a process which takes place over thousands of generations to mold a species' genetic material to better fit into environmental forces. i think I know where you're tripping up though. A lot of social darwinists try to convey the idea of "survival of the fittest" to justify social stratification. "survival of the fittest" =/= "natural selection". you won't find that phrase in any of darwins work nor any modern biology text book.
- ZenMojo, on 01/07/2008, -5/+8Either way, I want Bush and Cheney prosecuted, either now or later, but ASAP. Even if you have to wait until inauguration day with Obama standing on the podium, I want justice served.
- patrickxbateman, on 01/07/2008, -1/+3This article really needs to be in the digg top 10 TWICE?
- fnordy, on 01/07/2008, -2/+4Bush & Co have done the status of The US in the world a great disservice. And as the country that is *supposed* to be the beacon of freedom on this planet, they have turned it into a flashing light of eroding civil rights.
- otterp, on 01/07/2008, -2/+4Buried because it pretends to show surprise that the Washington Post of all papers would print it on "their sacred pages". As they are even more biased than most large papers, I am not at all surprised. For unbiased news, never look to print, which is usually controlled by some mogul.
- cesig, on 01/10/2008, -0/+2Mental midget? I think you mean yourself. Did you even READ THE ARTICLE? If you had, you would have run across specific offenses.
'Impeachment' doesn't mean 'automatic removal.' All of the listed offenses are impeachable.
Wiretapping in violation of the FISA courts: Illegal.
Waging war without the approval of Congress (beyond 90 days): Illegal. (Look at the War Powers Resolution of 1973)
Allegations of vote tampering / voter fraud: Not illegal in and of itself, but enough to investigate if you look at the facts.
Denying POWs habeas corpus / rendering POWs: The U.S. can pick up any alien, even a legal permanent resident in the U.S., and take them to an off-shore prison and hold them forever without any kind of court hearing. Sounds like fun to me!
Increasing the terrorist threat to America while claiming to make it safer.
Criminal incompetence in handling the Katrina cleanup efforts.
And that's just in the article. Two are provable. Some could be investigated. Some are legal, but impeachable for the sheer danger it shows the president poses to the safety of the country.
But I guess this is ok with you?
You know, being a patriot doesn't mean being unquestioningly subservient to the current leader. It means fighting to prevent harm from coming to the country, no matter the source. McGovern's more patriotic than you simply because he's pushing congress to do what he thinks is right. You're just being BushCo's fluffer. - fatbert, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1"historically the first general election smear campaign"
If you believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in buying. - fatbert, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1Because were one year away from a new president?
- fatbert, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1The Washington Post did.
- fatbert, on 01/09/2008, -0/+1Rumsfeld resigned over two years ago, dumbass.
- bowens44, on 01/07/2008, -1/+2How does it feel to be a member of a small, insignificant and quickly shrinking minority?
- inactive, on 01/09/2008, -0/+1WaPo is in on the conspiracy. THEY'RE ALL IN ON IT!!!! And now that you've exposed it, they can't let you live. There's probably a hit team on their way to your house as we speak! LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!!!!!!!
- alphasixtyone, on 01/07/2008, -2/+3no. I simply said that the op obviously does not understand what natural selection is, judging from his post. And in a similar vein, many people who deny natural selection (such as huckabee), also lack a fundamental understanding of want natural selection actually is and how it works. Ergo my comparison.
- enssss, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1I've seen more articles against impeachment because of this article. So impeachment is becoming more and more something that is talked about. There is still hope for impeachment. This is the latest of several positive steps toward impeachment.
- MonsterChaOS, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1oh! I see what you did there, Tie an honest man's name to someone most of the US hates. Wow, you're so smart...
Whats the matter? No complaints with any substance? Got to stick with names that have absolutely nothing to do with each other?
...oh, and B: Looks like he will, idiot. - jenniferstruth, on 01/07/2008, -1/+2well technically impeachment can be for anything we the people decide. we decided to impeach clinton for lying about sexual relations with ms. lweinsky, well Bush was caught lying to us about the war for one. also, for a more "right" slant
"Pat Buchanan just announced that President Bush is derelict in his duty to protect America. Buchanan called for “some courageous Republican” to introduce a bill of impeachment charging the President with “a conscious refusal to uphold his oath and defend the states of the Union.’” "Buchanan says the failure to stop illegal immigration is a violation of the President’s constitutional obligation to protect the states “against invasion.” Of course, Buchanan is twisting the Constitution’s reference to a military invasion to support his xenophobic fear of immigration. It’s vintage Buchanan – he’s spent years making outrageous claims to demonize immigrants, minorities, women and many other groups."
I believe in impeachment for these reasons:
Illegal legislation / Re-writing law: Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, Wiretapping
The party line often heard from Neo-Cons in their attempts to defend the Patriot Act either circulate around the contention that the use of the Patriot Act has never been abused or that it isn't being used against American citizens. Here is an archive of articles that disproves both of these fallacies.
Neo-Con government mouthpieces and others are claiming that the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which heralded the official end of the "great experiment" of the American democratic republic, does not affect U.S. citizens, only illegal aliens and foreign terrorists. Recent history of how terror legislation was used to target American citizens clearly indicates the legislation will be used domestically.
Buried amongst the untold affronts to the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and the very spirit of America, the bill also contains a definition of "wrongfully aiding the enemy" which labels all American citizens who breach their "allegiance" to President Bush and the actions of his government as terrorists subject to possible arrest, torture and conviction in front of a military tribunal.
The wiretapping program violates the Fourth Amendment and FISA and will chill free speech. The Fourth Amendment protects the right of the people of the United States to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and requires court approval except in an emergency. As a bipartisan group of legal experts—including Judge William Sessions, the former Director of the FBI under President Ronald Reagan—concluded after analyzing all the constitutional and statutory assertions of the administration: “the Justice Department’s defense of what it concedes was secret and warrantless electronic surveillance of persons within the United States fails to identify any plausible legal authority for such surveillance.”
Bush is also planning to abolish parts of the War Crimes Act of 1996 that makes it a felony to commit grave violations of the Geneva Conventions. He is systematically re-writing laws that could make him accountable for previous crimes against humanity.
UNESCO and UN treaties
For reasons inexplicable to most sensible Americans, in September 2002, President George W. Bush told the United Nations that the U.S. will rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), a wild-eyed bunch President Reagan abandoned in 1984, noting that it was utterly corrupt and the U.S. had no business being a member of such a group.
Destruction of the Dollar
Former World Bank Vice President, Chief Economist and Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz has predicted a global economic crash within 24 months - unless the current downturn is successfully managed. Asked if the situation was being properly handled Stiglitz emphatically responded "no,".
Stiglitz caused controversy in October 2001 when he exposed rampant corruption within the IMF and blew the whistle on their nefarious methods of inducing countries to fall under their debt before stripping them of sovereignty and hollowing out their economies. Stiglitz agreed that the process of hijacking and looting key infrastructure on the part of the IMF and World Bank, as an offshoot of predatory globalization, had now moved from the third world to Europe, the United States and Canada.
New Freedom Initiative
Enforced and mandatory psychological testing and drugging is now a proposed federal law, to be done nationwide under Bush's 'New Freedom initiative'. Bush established the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health in April 2002 to conduct a "comprehensive study of the United States mental health service delivery system." The commission issued its recommendations in July 2003. Bush instructed more than 25 federal agencies to develop an implementation plan based on those recommendations
Real ID act
The Real ID Act essentially turns your driver's license into a national identification card. Or at least licenses issued by 2008 will be. That's when the program is to start.
Congressman Ron Paul: "Proponents of the REAL ID Act continue to make the preposterous claim that the bill does not establish a national ID card. This is dangerous and insulting nonsense."
The Senate has passed the Real ID bill, creating a backdoor national ID card. After weeks of activism directed towards them senators knew the full scale of this horror but voted for it 100-0 anyway.
Lies that led us to war
The Downing Street Memo and other documents prove that Bush knew there were no WMD before the invasion of Iraq. Bush's WMD statements, in chronological order, were:
"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
-- United Nations Address, September 12, 2002
"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons."
"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."
-- Radio Address, October 5, 2002
"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."
"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."
"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."
-- Cincinnati, Ohio Speech, October 7, 2002
"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."
-- State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
-- Address to the Nation, March 17, 2003
Buying fake news and engaging in domestic propaganda
In 2004, several news stations around the country broadcast a story on plans for a White House advertising campaign on the dangers of drug abuse. But the "journalist" who reported this story was not a journalist, and his report was actually produced by the Bush administration.
The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, ruled that this amounted to illegal "covert propaganda."
The GAO said the Department of Health and Human Services violated two federal laws when it created fake news footage to support the administration's Medicare drug benefit bill.
Hurricane Katrina response
The event paved the way for the standard government response to a crisis - sabotage the rescue efforts, dominate and enslave the victims, then reap the windfall from the tragedy.
Katrina was a trial balloon for widespread gun confiscation under the pretext of a crisis. Every aspect of government involvement with the event unveils scandal, corruption, deceit and criminal negligence.
9/11
Bush personally backed the FBI off Bin Laden before 9/11.
The Bush administration moved to block transparency of secret bank accounts, which in part facilitated the 9/11 terror attacks.
Impeachment and indictment is the only way to go to save America and democracy. Bush is a figurehead but we need to show the world that he and his handlers are not our leaders.
Peace, Love and Respect,
Jen - fatbert, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1Yeah, what do we need that pesky Constitution for anyway?
- jenniferstruth, on 01/07/2008, -1/+2He will be an extention on the policies that are already in place. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and therefore is working for their policies which you can read all about in the PNAC documents.
- krebcycle, on 01/07/2008, -2/+3please, that's as dumb as the republican 'love it or leave it' *****
- aadyss, on 01/07/2008, -0/+1ZenMojo. Sooner or later but ASAP. Which way do you want to go? Left, right, up, down? No, zenmojo wants to go all directions at the same time.
- alphasixtyone, on 01/07/2008, -2/+3I give up. sorry, take a course in introductory biology. this is flying way over your head.
- someguyouknow, on 01/07/2008, -2/+3How so? Explain.
- CourtesyFlush, on 01/07/2008, -1/+2Maybe WaPO wants to demonstrate that only big time losers call for impeachment long after the issue has been dropped by 96% of Congress.
- bowens44, on 01/07/2008, -1/+2yes
- j33buscr1p3s, on 01/07/2008, -1/+2"Richard Nixon looks like a flaming liberal today, compared to a golem like George Bush. Indeed. Where is Richard Nixon now that we finally need him?" - Hunter S. Thompson
- aadyss, on 01/07/2008, -1/+1I remember quite well who he is but have been trying to forget for years.
- aadyss, on 01/07/2008, -0/+0The extreme left liberal record is stuck. You remember records, don't you? Probably not.
- GhostyBoy, on 01/07/2008, -1/+1Rupert Murdoch tells you what the news is.
- jenniferstruth, on 01/07/2008, -1/+1EXCELLENT COMMENT DSTAT
- cesig, on 01/10/2008, -1/+1Perhaps the supporters are thinking but came to a different conclusion. Perhaps they think it's worth trying, even if it's unsuccessful.
But why do stuff that's hard, right? Better to go watch tv while the country goes down the crapper.
Thanks so much for your insightful comment. - GhostyBoy, on 01/07/2008, -1/+1I think he meant major newspapers, the majority of which are owned and controlled by the same interests.
- cesig, on 01/10/2008, -1/+1Not that I'm complaining, per se, but what's with the influx of conservative responses / downvotes of supporters? Unusual for Digg, but at least we can have a real discussion on a topic.
- aadyss, on 01/07/2008, -1/+1Your theory of natural selection cannot be proven any better that what religion is correct. Why bother discussing it and just everyone believe what you believe?
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