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- Dumbfood, on 08/29/2008, -3/+32As a veteran myself, and using common sense; having not been through what Mccain went through and seeing his friends receive "great" care after Vietnam, and he himself living through the worst. It's amazing, to see that he has such asinine policies on things one would figure he would be astute about. .Experience does not teach apparently,if you're Rep apparently
- dagnabbit, on 08/28/2008, -5/+33Sort of like how he's taking credit for the new GI bill after fighting against it. How disgusting and shameful.
- ldailey06, on 08/28/2008, -2/+28My favorite part was when Obama called him on his voting record, and McCain questioned his patriotism.
- thegamingguy, on 08/27/2008, -10/+27His voting record for the veterans is somewhat surprising for a candidate who's identity is rooted in his service record. Is this a 'plastic card' he would be willing to take in lieu of his plan?
- Gev1982, on 08/29/2008, -2/+18Given his voting record, McCain appears to have no regard for the men and women who are either serving currently or have sacrificed in their past. As a relatively young veteran who was injured in Iraq when I was 21, this is a HUGE deal--The benefits that I (and many, many like me)receive through the VA have helped me to make the transition from soldier to student. A vote for anyone who is willing to sacrifice the lives of our Nations young while refusing to act responsibly to ensure that they are able to reintegrate with our society is shameful...especially when you look at his prior service. If he is willing to throw the people of our armed services to the wolves, imagine the regard he holds the rest of you in.
- inactive, on 08/28/2008, -5/+18If McCain likes veterans so much, why does he always disagree with them?
- DD2CC2U, on 08/28/2008, -9/+20McCain is a "set you up for a fall" artist. Do not trust McCain or his hype on his plans and policies. When ever anyone truly examines his policies in detail they soon learn just how unorganized and haphazard the planning is. This is just another example. If veterans follow this McCain plan they will end up with no health care what so ever just like millions of other Americans that did not serve in the military.
- Shiftgood, on 08/29/2008, -1/+11im sick of liberals and their self righteous garbage! My thoughts and beliefs are so far superior to theirs and I am the only one who is right. Its obvious that anyone not voting for McCain is a communist or some other type of hyperbole that scares me enough to ignore the truth. I want my news to be fair and balanced and only believe news sources that specifically guarantee this in their slogans. Digg sucks.
- somberlaine, on 08/27/2008, -11/+21He stressed the point that he WON'T privatize veterans' health care yet he wants to privatize it for the rest of the population. I wonder why????
- valimar77, on 08/28/2008, -7/+16"Although McCain stated that the "Card" would be a "...supplement to ordinary VA care -- which would not replace or privatize existing programs," that just doesn't make any kind of sense.
For every veteran who opts for private healthcare, that is one less veteran using the VA...which means the VA would receive less funding.
So it would "privatize" a great deal of VA healthcare and lead to the decline, or even the destruction, of the VA as we know it."
http://www.vawatchdog.org/08/nf08/nfAUG08/nf081008 ... - slowmo, on 08/28/2008, -6/+13Having been A POW is not an instant qualification for President, and your grammar is abhorrent.
- Intercon, on 08/29/2008, -1/+7Then why does the IAVA give McCain a "D" rating in his support for veterans and Obama gets a "B+"?
Your comment is what's "terribly inaccurate," jackass.
http://www.iava.org/full-ratings-list - EternalParadox5, on 08/29/2008, -3/+9Well, McCain doesn't have you're interests in mind. Especially with his abysmal voting record on the matter.
I still can't believe the guy was against the new GI bill, and then took credit for pushing for it. - lisa3711, on 08/29/2008, -0/+5well said.
- Intercon, on 08/29/2008, -1/+6Please educate yourself before you spout off nonsense.
- muckemuck, on 08/29/2008, -2/+7Come on now.. the veterans all LOVE McCain. He was a POW you know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTe7cuyx6J4 - fearlessfx, on 08/29/2008, -1/+5lol What? Obama =/= Stalin. Stalin had a cool mustache. Obama is clean shaven... They are nothing alike.
- whytheam, on 08/29/2008, -1/+5Because he can't trust congress to use the money properly.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -0/+4and let's be sarcastic when we don't have any valid points to make! :D
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -1/+5Do you think before you type oldsewerhobo?
- Clusterfrak, on 08/29/2008, -0/+4I don't know if things will change with Obama in the Whitehouse. However I know they won't if McCain gets elected. I am not voting for Obama because he will give me a better job, fix the economy, or make America a country that that is respected by it's allies. I am voting for him because those things will at least be possible. If I wanted a sure thing I would vote for McCain. Because I am sure under more jobs will dissapear, our economy will worsen, and America will be looked on as thug nation. Oh and by the way I've been a registered republican for more than a decade but I can see the cancer in my party.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -2/+5Stop subscribing to this two-party divide, it's an illusion.
Obama is the lesser of two evils but the whole "he's for change" propaganda you're spouting is such *****. His marketing team did a great job with picking that slogan though; gotta give credit where it's due. - valimar77, on 08/29/2008, -0/+3It's accurate and correlated by more than one source.
SAN FRANCISCO -- If John McCain is elected president, wounded veterans could be in for a world of hurt.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleid/10 ...
http://www.vawatchdog.org/08/nf08/nfJUN08/nf062508 ...
http://www.military.com/news/article/mccain-plan-m ...
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43626 - inactive, on 08/29/2008, -0/+3Health care is already privatized. Tricare IS private.
- MakiMaki, on 08/28/2008, -4/+7Explain how this story is spam? It features a short one-quote interview with someone relevant to the issue and specifically links out to senate.gov for all the citations on voting records.
Making wild, sweeping generalizations about how EVERY SINGLE democrat and republican is stupid doesn't help your case either.
Don't hate just for the sake of hating. - founderofpork, on 08/29/2008, -0/+3It's true, reality has a distinct liberal bias.
Do you know anything about his policies in comparison to Obama's, or anyone else's?
No, of course you don't. - inactive, on 08/29/2008, -2/+5Veterans health care is already privatized. It has been for decades. It's current form is called Tricare.
- Syrisgone, on 08/29/2008, -1/+4LoL, you are ***** awesome.
- TheDarkstarter, on 08/29/2008, -1/+4Wow! Where do you wackos get this stuff??? It's you republican nut jobs that have the wierd obama-mesiah-complex.
I just think that Obama is an intelligent person, who would make a fine president. At least, better that what we've had for the passed 8 years and better that McCain. - sniper241, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2Yo McCain, why you health care blockin' man.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2Thanks for the reminder. I forget that 3-4 times a day.
- Syrisgone, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2I don't undertand what you mean.
- EternalParadox5, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2I don't think people understand sarcasm/satire anymore.
- valimar77, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2The more combat veterans learn about John McCain and his plans, the less they like him. The Las Vegas Sun reports:
Sen. John McCain, speaking to disabled veterans Saturday in Las Vegas, attacked his Democratic opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, for his foreign policy record, while also proposing a program that would allow veterans to acquire health care at private hospitals and not just through the Veterans Affairs Department.
The veterans, at Bally's for their national convention, gave him a tepid reception, especially considering McCain's life story. The Arizona senator was a Navy pilot shot down over Vietnam, tortured and held as a prisoner of war for 5 1/2 years.
Just one of 14 veterans interviewed by the Sun after his speech said he is a certain McCain voter, and the nonpartisan group's legislative director expressed concerns about McCain's proposed "Veterans' Care Access Card." - EternalParadox5, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2Not personally responsible, but he does symbolize many of the things that are wrong with America.
- valimar77, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2No, it's actually spot on.
"Basically, the "VA Card" could be used by a veteran at any healthcare provider. Bad idea. It would dismantle the VA and cost the government many times more than VA funding. "
"Even in its less-than-originally-promised form, the McCain "Card" is a dangerous piece of bad medicine. VA Secretary Dr. James Peake has stated that the "Card" is "yellow-page medicine" and "potentially dangerous."
http://www.vawatchdog.org/08/nf08/nfJUN08/nf062508 ... - TheDarkstarter, on 08/29/2008, -1/+3Spoken like a true chicken-hawk.
And, you projecting what you think about dead soldiers onto what you think that other people think (follow that?) about dead soldiers is bordering on psychotic. Find help. - valimar77, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2The article is accurate.
"Still obsessing over the privatization of the VA for some reason, John McCain is poised to lose the veterans' vote for good. In fact, in response to his Saturday speech to the DAV, Iraq War veteran and double-amputee Tammy Duckworth had this to say about McCain's proposals:
"John McCain has said that improving veterans' health care would be his top domestic priority as President, yet he has repeatedly voted against increased funding for veterans health care. And now he offers up an plastic card option that will lead to privatization of veterans health care. No one knows how to help and heal veterans like veterans -- had I ended up in a regular hospital after returning from Iraq, I would lost my arm. McCain's plan will only hurt the VA and our veterans more than they are already hurting."
http://www.vetvoice.com/tag.do?tag=Tammy%20Duckwor ... - MadKennyP, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2Seems McCain is the MOST vocal veteran we have. Therefore, you have a point.
- Lionhart, on 08/29/2008, -1/+3BUT HE WAS A POW
- splorpdotorg, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2Hey, there's an echo in here! (In case you didn't understand that, it means POST IT ONCE)!
- valimar77, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2Tricare is not for veterans nor is it a part of the VA. it's a separate entity providing civilian health benefits for military personnel, military retirees, and their dependents, including some members of the Reserve Component.
In late 1993, in response to requirements in the DOD Appropriation Act for Fiscal Year 1994, the DOD announced plans for implementing a nationwide managed care program for the MHS that would be completely implemented by May 1997. Under this program, known as TRICARE, the United States was divided into 12 health care regions. An administrative organization, the lead agent, was designated for each region and coordinated the health care needs of all military treatment facilities in the region.
Since then, TRICARE has undergone several restructuring initiatives, including re-alignment of contract regions, Base Realignment and Closure, and the addition of "TRICARE for Life" benefits in 2001 for those who are Medicare-eligible, and "TRICARE Reserve Select" in 2005.
http://www.tricare.mil/ - valimar77, on 08/29/2008, -0/+2The article is correlated by more than one source:
SAN FRANCISCO -- If John McCain is elected president, wounded veterans could be in for a world of hurt.
"A recent study by the RAND Corporation found that "VA patients were more likely to receive recommended care" and "received consistently better care across the board, including screening, diagnosis, treatment and follow up" than that delivered by other U.S. health care providers.
Virtually all veterans groups oppose McCain's plan. The Veterans of Foreign Wars' national legislative director has said the VA card would "undermine the entire system"."
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleid/10 ...
http://www.vawatchdog.org/08/nf08/nfJUN08/nf062508 ...
http://www.military.com/news/article/mccain-plan-m ...
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43626 - damendred, on 08/29/2008, -0/+1No one but Soldies no what it's like to do battle.
And it's politics, everyone uses everything, if they can tie it to a pole and wave it they will.
But calling anyone behind Obama a 'hippie' makes you look ignorant.
Also 'supporing our troops' is a slogan created to make people who didn't support the war look like they don't appreciate the sacrifice made by soldiers.
It's pure manipulation. You can not support a war but still respect people who fight and sacrifice for you, making them synonmous is a transparent political plot. - BotchaMcCoola, on 08/29/2008, -0/+1Ohohoho. Boy are the mental health statistics way off kilter.
- SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/29/2008, -0/+1From my personal experience in the military, about 10% of the troops support the war in Iraq. We don't want to go there and die for oil companies and defense contractors. We do what we're told, but we don't think it's right or legal.
- banderwocky, on 08/29/2008, -0/+1Look at you throw your verterans under the bus.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -1/+2Prove it.
- banderwocky, on 08/29/2008, -0/+1You're flat out delusional if you think Exxon John knows anything other than spending his wifes inheritance with his Black Centurion Card and calling her a c*nt and a trollop. The blind leading the clueless.
- VogonPoet, on 08/29/2008, -1/+2Wow, what a brilliant thrust. If you're a veteran who supports Obama then obviously you haven't been wounded in battle or a front-line soldier. You're only a pussy who signed up for the possibility.
Check your shorts wind, I think that was more than air in your pants. -
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