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- EarlOfLade, on 10/24/2008, -2/+115I've been waiting for stories like this to surface.
It was well known back in the 80's that McCain supported the nutcases in Nicaragua and Reagan and his Iran-Contras debacle. Several people were convicted as felons after it surfaced. FOX News even employs one of these felons, Oliver North. - Echota, on 01/05/2009, -7/+103FTA:
Asked by the AP this year about McCain's alleged efforts to distance himself from the council in both 1984 and 1986 (when McCain had to ask to have his name removed from the group's stationary), founder John Singlaub said: "That's a surprise to me. ... I don't ever remember hearing about his resigning."
McCain you lying sack of no good sh!t!!! - Linguo, on 10/25/2008, -6/+96BUT BUT BUT....William Ayers???
- Soughtout, on 10/25/2008, -3/+60Now if only the MSM would cover this and the G. Gordon Liddy stories then voters would be able to make informed decisions.
- chosenson, on 10/24/2008, -4/+56This group armed the Taliban and bin Laden.
- GhostyBoy, on 10/25/2008, -5/+57The Republican party should just rename themselves the freedom-hating terrorist party.
Seriously, every one of their candidates and pundits supported every single piece of ***** from these ganster losers. WMD lies, blocking the 9/11 investigation, torture, subverting the media coverage, spying on the people, bailing out rich ass banker idiots...it just goes on and on, and it really is sickening.
I understand that some people are just ***** stupid, and got duped into this ***** for a few years before they realize the error of their ways, and I accept your apology....but to the people who STILL believe the propaganda and support the terrorist party....
Do you realize that you have nearly killed the country you claim to love and put the well-being of the entire free world at risk with your arrogance and smug stupidity? - Batfishy, on 10/25/2008, -3/+54 "ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America." The compassionate right-wing just gets kinder and gentler, no?
- HalleBurton, on 10/24/2008, -0/+41And, here is another story that has surfaced:
McCain's Private Visit With Chilean Dictator Pinochet Revealed For First Time
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-dinges/mccain-m ... - inactive, on 10/25/2008, -3/+42Yes, but to the Rebubs these people are heroes. I will still consider Bill Ayers a hero of the Viet Nam era! Like the English said for years while they were fighting the IRA, " one mans hero, is another mans terrorist"!
- darkciti2, on 10/25/2008, -7/+39I love Huff revealing it.
- homercles337, on 10/25/2008, -4/+34Meh, the Corporate Media is not going to cover this and the ***** crazy, rabid, right-wing idiots are going to spin, spin, and spin.
- FulcrumVitesse, on 10/25/2008, -7/+35Maverick? I think not.
- heystoopid, on 10/25/2008, -3/+29I love republicans all living in the deluded land called "self denial" and the only tool left to hide the fear of truth is rhetoric , such is life .
- bjornski, on 10/25/2008, -3/+27These aren't "***** ties to terrorists". These are REAL ties to REAL terrorists. American trained terrorists. With American money. (some government money, some gained by selling crack in L.A. after using government planes to fly the drugs to the US. Read up on "Air America")
Are you too young to remember the Ollie North trials? I'm not.
Everyone involved in the "School of the Americas" and the Iran/Contra scandal should be rotting in prison for the rest of their lives.
And that includes McCain. - Terasiel, on 10/25/2008, -4/+28History books. They exist for a reason. Try reading one.
- bjornski, on 10/25/2008, -1/+21Are you saying McCain wasn't involved in the Iran/Contra issue?
These were real terrorists. Government trained ones. Government funded ones.
They gave weapons to Iran, funded Bin Laden and killed innocents in terrorist raids.
But on the news, we called them "freedom fighters".
So what are they reaching for? - inactive, on 10/25/2008, -0/+20I'm old enough to have followed the Iran Contra scandal when it was happening, and I tell you this... the first time I saw Oliver North on FOX News being treated like a respectable political analyst, my head damn near exploded. That is one of the biggest WTFs in media history as far as I'm concerned.
- NidStyles, on 10/25/2008, -3/+23I love 20 something idiot's that think they know something about what happened in the '70's. You're lucky if you remember what happened in the early '90's. Yes that mean's you poprocksandsoda.
- secrity, on 10/25/2008, -4/+23The history is correct, the only question is the importance of the history. Huff Po is correct in reporting this.
- NidStyles, on 10/25/2008, -1/+20Huh? WTF? You can't be a presidential canidate without being a natural born citizen you idiot.
- bjornski, on 10/25/2008, -2/+21Sssh! Don't mention John McCain and his ties to the Iran/Contra scandal and helping train terrorists to kill women and children while helping fund Bin Laden and giving weapons to Iran.
You have an individual terrorist to worry about! Not these government funded ones! Besides, they were just spreading American Christian values!
So yeah. Ayers. LOL. I'm real scared of him. - Terasiel, on 10/25/2008, -0/+18There's a massive difference between being on the group that helped arm the Taliban, check your damn History books on that one, and meeting someone, decades after they have served their time, when both of you happen to be public officials. Giving someone the go-ahead to give someone else a knife, who then murders someone with that knife, is much different that knowing someone who murdered someone years after they've gotten out of prison and are on the school board.
- 4321234, on 10/25/2008, -0/+18And the retards counterpunch with Ayers again. In 1984 McCain sat on the council funding the death squads. In 1970 Obama sat on a tricycle.
- graeh, on 10/25/2008, -0/+17I learned all about that on an episode of American Dad.
God I love me some American Dad.
Stan Smith singing about Ollie North's many crimes.
Classic TV. - duckley, on 10/25/2008, -3/+16
Today I read about the vile email sent out by Penn. Republicans. Of all the many despicable and hateful things that McCain and the Republicans have done in the last year, this is THE WORST and most Obscene tactic I have ever witnessed in 40 years of watching politics closely.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/penn ...
I implore you to raise your voice, and the voices of others, against this kind of vile and truly evil propoganda. - inactive, on 10/25/2008, -1/+13I don't know boss. You got one guy that did community work and attended a fund raiser with someone who is by all accounts reformed (if he's so bad, why isn't Ayers in jail? The government KNOWS where he is, right?).
Then you got the other guy, who well...
FTA: McCain served on the advisory board of the Council on World Freedom, which funded and provided arms to what the Associated Press described as "ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America." The group also "aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua," which landed it "in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization's tax exemption."
So he basically armed several groups of terrorists (WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS), including the very same people that he claims he wants to protect us from. I'm old enough to remember watching Ollie North repeat "I do not recall" over and over again on national TV. Sorry, but there's no comparison between actually being part of the Iran-Contra scandal and kinda knowing someone that was part of a very small domestic thing 2 decades before you met him. - stormofswords, on 10/25/2008, -0/+12Oliver North protected Reagan, which is the equivalent of taking a bullet for Jesus in the minds of Republicans. I'm surprised that he's not fanned by half-naked women in the Fox studios.
- grodani, on 10/25/2008, -2/+13Oh no! a NEWSLETTER!!?!?! I guess there's no WAY that a frickin NEWSLETTER constitutes contemporaneous documentation that McCain was still involved at the time, and that he therefore lied about it a couple of weeks ago, huh? Look, you don't like the newsletter? Fine. Then there's the tax form and news reports of the awards ceremony. Now I don't see this connection as a big problem with McCain. There's a lot wrong with him, but this doesn't seem like a big deal. This story will sink quickly, I'm sure. So my point here isn't that this story should be hyped a lot. The problem is your dismissal of actual documentation from the time in question. It shows that you have a problem with logic and reason.
- keithloughnane, on 10/25/2008, -3/+14This is why i love the Internet, obama sneezes the wrong way and the news networks go nuts but this has to be reported on the net.
Like it or loath it the Internet is the truest form of independent media. - Arramol, on 10/25/2008, -0/+11I love people who think they can make verifiable evidence go away just by claiming it's "reinventing history" without providing a single piece of corroborating evidence to back up their assertion. Actually, no, it makes me want to cry because Americans have become so thoroughly devoid of logic.
- bjornski, on 10/25/2008, -2/+13He voted to give the American terrorists money.
Far worse than sitting in a violent nutjobs living room.
He helped sign the checks and write the policies of the American "freedom fighters".
You're too young to remember Iran/Contra, aren't you?
It's much, MUCH more dangerous than these Ayers connections you keep trying to make.
So let me get this right. Terrorist trainer and liar to Congress Ollie North can reform himself and be a shining hero. But Ayers can't?
Ayers has reformed himself into doing USEFUL things now. Ollie North is just a shill for the warmongers on FOX news. Lying about more military problems. But hey, he's *GOOD* at that. He's a proven liar and terrorist. And unrepentant.
Ayers is a good guy now. Ollie North is still a lying piece of ***** with more blood on his hands than *ANY* Viet Nam protestor. - bjornski, on 10/25/2008, -0/+10I'm not scared of Ayers.
I *AM* scared of more illegal wars. - inactive, on 10/25/2008, -0/+10Your kind is going down, simple minded red-neck. "But, gorsh, mister! His middle name is like that other guy that the prezidunt told me is bad"
The age of ignorant white people winning just for being ignorant white people is over. The 1950's are FINALLY OVER. I welcome our new homie to the White House.
BTW, I'm Irish and so white that I can't go outside at noon in the winter without getting a sunburn, so don't accuse me of being a black Muslim negro terrorist Jew or something crazy that you're told to be afraid of at your Church of Insanity Holy Roller Derby / KKK Skin Head Rally thing that you probably attend twice a week. - inactive, on 10/25/2008, -0/+10Every time a neo-con reveals his racist brainwashed idiocy by mentioning Obama's race or (God forbid) HIS MIDDLE NAME(!!!) McCain loses another vote. Don't you see how damning you are to your own cause? Go back to the rally, you ***** skin-head.
- grodani, on 10/25/2008, -1/+11"North admitted shredding government documents when the Iran Contra scandal became public. North admitted shredding all documents relating to his contra and Iranian activities - at Casey's suggestion. He testified that McFarlane had asked him to alter official records to delete references to direct assistance to the contras and that he'd helped." (wiki)
So, if you destroy evidence, obstruct justice, and thereby avoid a conviction...that's allright, then?
And yes, a photo of someone standing on a flag is trivial. Absolutely. Are you seriously arguing otherwise? - Sogladtobehere, on 10/25/2008, -0/+10I agree with you in principle, but the story speaks to the decision making of someone who wants to be Prez. If McCain supported these ultra-right-wing nut-bags, who will he fund while he is in the White House?
This story, and ones about whom he allows to work on his campaign speak directly to his policy making. He has a campaign run by corporations (read lobbyists) and gets support from these ultra-right-wing groups. It may be fearmongering, but only because it's a really scary truth! - kd1s, on 10/25/2008, -0/+9I remember Oliver North testifying too. He basically was the fall guy for the Reagan Administration and yet he bounced back with no issues.
I do love though that 10 days before the general election the missteps by McCain are coming to light. I do wish someone would delve more deeply into his relationship with Charlie Keating too.
Lets face it McCain is a doddering old fool. We don't need a man like him as president. I'd much rather an academic then a corrupt cronie. - zenbud, on 10/25/2008, -1/+10Whoa, good one! So clever!!! Failin IQ is higher than yours at 80! 80!
- nlogik, on 10/25/2008, -1/+10I wonder if he has any clues in regards to the whereabouts of Ollie North's gold...
- bassjam5, on 10/25/2008, -1/+10This information should be shouted from the rooftops. DEMS don't want to sit back and get swiftboated like Kerry.
- bjornski, on 10/25/2008, -1/+9No.
Ollie North = terrorist.
Staunchly backed by Reagan and McCain.
THOSE are terrorists. - bjornski, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8You're right. Bringing up ACTUAL terrorism ties is bad.
We're "better" than that. We should just ignore it. - xerigen, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8Yeah, seriously. I am no fan of the Republican party but that doesn't mean I support the Democratic party either. This us vs. them mentality between Republicans and Democrats cause people to be apologists for a stupid affiliation that benefits them in no way whatsoever. Can't we just hold people accountable without looking at their political party? If they ***** up,. they ***** up and should have to pay for it.
- inactive, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8http://www.oldmanmccain.com/2008/05/huge-mccain-bl ...
http://news.spreadit.org/mccain-iran-contra-scanda ...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=597048 ...
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jzQtw1kATj1xCqP ...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/mc ...
I mean... You DO have the Interweb, right? - pontiac, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8What do you think they do off camera?
- faded242, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8"I know diggers are stupid, but I didn't know they were THIS stupid"
Your own post is case in point. Every last thing you mention is complete garbage. Then you top it off with:
"ultra-liberal"
Uh-oh, ultra liberal.. that sounds BAAAD..
"black"
Holy *****.. he's black?! WTF?!
"quasi-Muslim"
? Now you're just making ***** up.. and even if he was a Muslim, there's nothing wrong with that.
"African/Arab"
Hah, you must be the son of that lady that stood up and told McCain that Obama was an Arab, as if that makes a single bit of difference in qualifying someone as a potential president.. unless you're a rasist *****. She did say that her whole family though just like she did. Nice case of xenophobia you have.
"named Hussein"
His middle name means "good; small handsome one". That must mean he is Saddam Hussein!
You sir, are an ignorant, racist, hate spreading excuse for a person. - rivalthecreator, on 10/25/2008, -1/+8↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
Had to. - alais, on 10/25/2008, -0/+7hypocrite much?
- Hallow, on 10/25/2008, -2/+9This can't be true....
Obama is the one who hangs out with terrorists, not McCain!!
They must have made a typo and used the wrong name. - Mardala, on 10/25/2008, -0/+7The other point is Obama doesn't have a relationship with him. He sat on a board founded by an Annenburg, and which also several prominent Republicans also sit on, which happens to have a someone who was part of a terrorist group during the 60's. The ties to Ayers and Obama is a reach. Even the prosecutor who took on Ayers and eventually lost due to some illegal evidence gathering or something like that, he admitted the link to Ayers and Obama is a joke (in the sense of the political smear) and that Ayers has actually turned into a very decent person.
If you've ever sat on the board of anything you all know that there will be people there you don't know or who you don't have the same political views with.
The point is what does the board do? In McCain's case this board was part of a radical right wing agenda to take on Communism in Central / South America, and they concocted plans which would make terrorists tinge with envy. Obama sat on a board that was part of bettering the Chicago community or schools.
Does that shed a little light on the situation. So these ties to Obama and terrorism are fabricated. But you know, the McCain/Palin camp is too retarded and continues to breathe these lies. -
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