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- bonitatortuga, on 10/06/2008, -7/+164"I crashed a plane in Corpus Christi Bay one Saturday morning. The engine quit while I was practicing landings...I took a few painkillers and hit the sack to rest my aching back for a few hours....I was out carousing, injured back and all, later that evening.
--John McCain, "Faith of My Fathers."
FTA:
The official Navy report into the Corpus Christi accident on March 12, 1960, concludes that the AD-6 Skyraider trainer crashed because McCain failed to "maintain an airspeed above the stall speed." It attributed the accident to "the preoccupation of the pilot coupled with a power setting too low to maintain level flight." The single-engine prop plane sank to the bottom of Corpus Christi Bay. McCain was rescued by a helicopter after swimming to the surface.
The accident report excluded a series of other possible factors, including engine failure and disorientation of the pilot due to vertigo. It recorded pilot error as "the sole contributing factor" to the accident. - marabout40, on 10/06/2008, -5/+89his whole life is predicated on one bad decision after the other. He doesn't think things through. He shoots from the hip and doesn't think about the ramifications of his actions. He's cocky, as an entitlement mentality.
If it wasn't for Cindy's money, where would John McCain be today? - SlyNIN, on 10/06/2008, -5/+75So, the guy has a couple crashes and they keep giving him planes to fly.
I woulda lost the keys to the car after my first crash. - Echota, on 01/05/2009, -12/+71He's a Liar dontcha know! But hey,so am I!
I was Before I wasn't!
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Proof_Palin_Lied ... - theuber1337, on 10/07/2008, -1/+46There was a time when military experience seemed worthy enough to prove a decent and honorable man. That time has passed. McCain served in Nam and deserves the respect for that. However, if you think sitting in a torture camp for 5 years until we lost the war in Vietnam is experience to win the war in Iraq, I've got a bridge in Alaska to sell you.
- bonitatortuga, on 10/06/2008, -7/+51I seriously think that he believes he's a god. If you read that wonderful Rolling Stone article, it is detail after detail of how he has defied everything in his path and still remains...even with that awesome video out by the obama campaign (www.keatingeconomics.com), he still gets away with it. It's going to take an army of American voters to finally call him a LOSER and LIAR to his face!
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -9/+45That brings the McCain lie counter up to:
An exception of type OverflowException has occurred in McCain.cs, line 2. - MediaWeasel, on 10/06/2008, -7/+38Hmmmm. Another of McCain's skills as illustrated by this piece - embroidery.
- hiriumi, on 10/07/2008, -7/+38Mr. McCain. The more I see your campaign, the more I lose respect for you. There is no country for old men in 2008.
- overtoke, on 10/07/2008, -1/+30The only thing fabricated here is the non-word "moraless."
- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -8/+35His whole Navy record is nothin but fudge.
And not the good kind of fudge. - NovaPrime9, on 10/07/2008, -0/+25I work for AT&T.
By your logic, that means I'm qualified to RUN AT&T? - rmxz, on 10/07/2008, -1/+23"I crashed a plane.....I took a few painkillers" - McCain
I wonder if he got that backwards.... first took a few painkillers, then crashed the plane. - fiatjustitia, on 10/07/2008, -1/+21"he's never been in the military."
So what? It helps if they have it, but it's not the full measure of a leader of they were/were not members of the military. - ScienceDoc, on 10/06/2008, -9/+29McShame's entire life is a lie and a fabrication. Read the Rolling Stone article. Same conclusion everyone else has come to - he is a fraud.
- gerwinnz, on 10/07/2008, -1/+21exactly how is mccains pretty dismal record "serving" your country going to help him "fix" iraq? open your eyes. bigger things happening here.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -2/+22McCain will never be President.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+19Didn't help kerry much because you morons (and by morons i mean repubes) still voted for bush.
- Reclinatron, on 10/07/2008, -3/+22Let's let him pilot the American economy!
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+19"McCain served our country, Obama has no military experience and he thinks he can fix Iraq?"
Kerry served your country yet Bush got to be president.
And Bush broke Iraq. - otakushark, on 10/07/2008, -2/+19Oh, and if you want to talk about a shortage of morals, how about McCain cheating on his disabled wife?
- fiatjustitia, on 10/07/2008, -2/+18Republican newspeak in full effect.
- otakushark, on 10/07/2008, -1/+16Sigh. It's from a US Navy accident report. The Right is brainless.
FTA: The official Navy report into the Corpus Christi accident on March 12, 1960, concludes that the AD-6 Skyraider trainer crashed because McCain failed to "maintain an airspeed above the stall speed." It attributed the accident to "the preoccupation of the pilot coupled with a power setting too low to maintain level flight." The single-engine prop plane sank to the bottom of Corpus Christi Bay. McCain was rescued by a helicopter after swimming to the surface. - MalarkeyPN, on 10/07/2008, -0/+15I love it when republicans pretend that only people who oppose gay marriage have values.
- enantiodromia, on 10/07/2008, -0/+14The following admirals and generals endorsed Senator Barack Obama
for president:
Brigadier General Larry Gillespie. Gillespie has led a
distinguished 33-year career with the U.S. Army. He served as the
Assistant Deputy Commanding General, (ARNG) Army Material Command.
Major General Scott Gration (USAF-Ret). General Gration is a
retired two-star general and was the Director of Strategy, Policy, and
Assessments of the United States European Command in Germany.
The general served as Director of Regional Affairs in the Office of
the Deputy Undersecretary of the Air Force for International Affairs.
General Gration served as the Commander of Task Force West during
Operation Iraqi Freedom. His aerial combat experience includes almost
a thousand hours of combat time with 274 combat missions over Iraq.
Admiral Don Guter. Admiral Guter served in the U.S. Navy for 32
years, concluding his career as the Navy's Judge Advocate General from
2000 to 2002. Admiral Guter currently serves as the Dean of Duquesne
University Law School in Pittsburgh, PA. He also is executive director
of the Navy Marine Coast Guard Residence Foundation.
Brigadier General David "Dave" McGinnis. General McGinnis was the
Chief of Staff of the National Guard Association of the U.S. McGinnis
served as director of strategic plans and analysis for the Honorable
Deborah R. Lee, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs. He
served two tours in Vietnam before leaving the active Army in 1972 and
joining the New York National Guard that same year. In 1990, he became
branch chief of the force management division at National Guard Bureau
(NGB) in Washington. Subsequent assignments included Deputy Chief from 1991-92 and Director from 1992-1993.
General Merrill "Tony" McPeak. General McPeak is a retired four
star general and served as Chief of Staff of the United States Air
Force during Operation Desert Storm. McPeak entered the Air Force in
1957 and was appointed Chief of Staff in 1990, holding that office
until his retirement in 1994. As a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
during the Gulf War, McPeak served as a top wartime advisor to the
President, the Secretary of Defense, and National Security Council.
General McPeak is the recipient of the Silver Star, Distinguished
Service Medal and Distinguished Flying Cross. He was a fighter pilot
and flew over 300 combat missions in Vietnam.
Admiral John B. Nathman. During his thirty-seven year career with
the U.S. Navy, Admiral Nathman held a variety of positions in naval
air and sea-based operations, finishing his service as Commander, U.S.
Fleet Forces Command. After graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy,
Admiral Nathman became a naval aviator, ultimately serving as an
instructor at the Navy Fighter Weapons School. In 1971, Admiral
Nathman earned a Master of Science degree in Aerospace Systems
Engineering from the University of West Florida. He attained Flag rank
in 1994 and served in a number of command positions, including with
the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group, Naval Air Forces, and U.S. Fleet
Forces. Admiral Nathman also served as the Vice Chief of Naval
Operations.
Major General Hugh Robinson. A West Point graduate, Robinson was
promoted to brigadier general and became the Corps of Engineers' first
African American general officer. He served as deputy director of
Civil Works, and in 1980 assumed command of the Southwestern Division,
a position he held until his retirement in 1983 as a major general. In
1965, he was appointed as military aide to President Lyndon B.
Johnson. Robinson was the first African American to serve in that
position and held the appointment throughout the remainder of
Johnson's presidency.
Brigadier General James Smith. Smith retired from the U.S. Air
Force as a brigadier general and served as Commander, Joint
Warfighting Center, U.S. Joint Forces Command, Joint Training Analysis
and Simulation Center. He was responsible for managing the joint force
exercise and training development program and the modeling, simulation
and deploying of solutions that demonstrated high probability of
operational success. His previous assignments included Commander, 18th
Wing; Vice Director for Operations, Headquarters North American
Aerospace Defense Command; Commander, 325th Operations Group; and CSAF
Chair, National War College.
Admiral Robert "Willie" Williamson (USN-Ret Rear Admiral). Retired
U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Williamson served as military Deputy Assistant
Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development and Acquisition and
Director, Office of Program Appraisal. He was the senior military
advisor on the Secretary of the Navy staff. Williamson commanded the
aircraft carrier, USS Nimitz, during Desert Storm, and his last
operational assignment was Commander, Carrier Group Two, (John F.
Kennedy Battle Group), Deploying to the Mediterranean and Adriatic
Seas in support of allied operations in Bosnia.
Major General Ralph Wooten. Wooten is a former Commanding General
of the Army's Chemical Arsenal. His civilian corporate career includes
Management of large material management and control of multi-million
Department of Defense programs. He served 31 years in the U.S. Army
and retired as a Commanding General. During his military career he
crafted strategic vision, formulated operations plans, developed
investment strategies, controlled facilities and equipment, executed
multi-million dollar budgets, and provided leadership, direction and
advocacy to human resources numbered in the thousands, and corporate
management to major military installations. He is currently the
Executive Vice President of Management Systems, Inc.
how much a loser do you have to be to have an Admiral for a father and grandfather, and still have other Admirals vote for the "other guy", especially when the other guy is a "liberal democrat" ? - enantiodromia, on 10/07/2008, -1/+15if you think there aren't Liberals and Democrats who HAVE given their lives defending this country while McCain lives a life of mansions and private airplanes, you are the coward who can't admit their own bias.
California and New York, the Bluest states, have more of their residents in the military than any other state. They have also lost the most of their men and women than any other state.
So why don't you take your "coward" theory, and shove it real high up where the sun don't shine, and be thankful the Blue states produce much more of their fair share of soldiers, sailors, and marines, and happen to be where the largest defense contractors are making the vehicles, planes, and weapon systems that keep you safe from "terror". - RipleyIsDead, on 10/07/2008, -0/+14Bush did coke for our country.
- curiousgrge, on 10/07/2008, -1/+15If by served, you mean he got served by the Vietnamese, then I agree. If by military experience, you mean he was a major ***** up while in the military, then I concur.
- atomicfireball, on 10/07/2008, -0/+13Not just admirals, four-star admirals. John McCain is the only person ever to have both a father and a grandfather who were four star admirals. It bought him a lot of slack and unearned opportunities.
- charm803, on 10/07/2008, -2/+15We just had a President with military under his belt (if you can call it that) and that did us NO good.
My brother served in Iraq, surely he knows more about winning a war in Iraq than McCain because he served in Iraq recently....right? - le0pardess, on 10/07/2008, -0/+13This biography will tell you just how many crashes and then some! Quite disgusting how much this midget has gotten away with, and still rise through the ranks to possibly be a president...sickening.
KNOW YOUR RECKLESS CANDIDATE!....WOW>>>> A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty....From parents having to drop him into iced bath water to stop tantrums to charges of profanity when girls laughed at him when he tried to pick them up. http://www.truthout.org/100508A - diggapleeeze, on 10/07/2008, -1/+13Perhaps still with his first wife?
- DD2CC2U, on 10/06/2008, -9/+21Lair!
- KarlH, on 10/07/2008, -1/+12You've got to give McCain credit -- he has singlehandedly crashed three airplanes, and still managed to convince half the American voters he is the most qualified to lead the country. That's pretty darn impressive.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -2/+13Why is it that no McCain supporter can spell, much less put forth anything resembling a legitimate argument or rebuttal?
- navghtivs, on 10/07/2008, -0/+10Being son and grandson of admirals helped.
- amoirae, on 10/07/2008, -0/+9But he will endorse Aunt Sarah's Moose Stew!
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+9Ahhh yes, I'm going to trust an obviously biased site, (it refers to it's crew as "A Hard Living Band of Right Wing Cut Throats") that's littered with ads for astrologers and work at home scams.
Congratulations, you found a site that makes Fox News look sane and reliable. - inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+9All the retired generals that support Obama certainly know about the military than you do.
- psy333che, on 10/06/2008, -9/+18This just shows how long this creep has been lieing and how he has done so much damage like BUSH
- FredFredrickson, on 10/07/2008, -3/+12A power setting too low means the pilot doesn't know what the ***** he is doing. Why are you willing to bend the truth for some guy who doesn't give a god damned ***** about you, and never will?
- DreKor, on 10/07/2008, -0/+9*wink*
- Arishia, on 10/07/2008, -6/+15John "Smokin Hole" McCain
- pthomsen, on 10/07/2008, -1/+9He wasn't maintaining airspeed, which is to say that the airplane stalled (its forward motion was too slow for the wings to maintain lift), and it crashed.
This is not the same as the engine stalling, by any means. - Nightenglow, on 10/07/2008, -4/+12John McCain crashes planes
- curiousgrge, on 10/07/2008, -0/+8If by giving his life, you mean he gave out strategic information to save his own ass which cost other POWs their own lives.
- JDRay, on 10/07/2008, -0/+8"In his autobiography, McCain recalls another mishap around December 1961 when "I knocked down some power lines while flying too low over southern Spain. My daredevil clowning had cut off electricity to a great many Spanish homes and created a small international incident." He landed his Skyraider back on the USS Intrepid after the incident, which does not appear to have triggered a safety investigation."
Maybe that's why he didn't want to talk to the President of Spain:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/bizarre-m ... - forgeflow, on 10/07/2008, -1/+9A "stall" in aircraft terms does not refer to the engine. It refers to the ability of the wing to supply lift. You stall a plane by going too slowly for your rate of ascent. You can glide on a gentle descent with no engine and not crash the plane. You cannot gain altitude without enough forward motion - at too slow of a speed the bernouli effect on the wing breaks down, and the plane "stalls" and falls out of the sky.
Apparently, based on McCain's flight record, he was a "master" of this. To stall an aircraft takes a special kind of bull-headed determination - you have to ignore warning lights and sirens in order to continue flying too low while trying to raise the nose of the aircraft. That he managed to do this more than once in his Navy career is testament more to pull of his family name, rather than his "skill" as a pilot. Anyone else would have been grounded. - apec766, on 10/07/2008, -0/+8You betcha!
- fiatjustitia, on 10/07/2008, -0/+8Awesome, the exact same "jump to conclusions about someone's character because they disagree with me" routine that defines the current incarnation of the right wing. LoneRanger85, your side is losing, and your desperation is showing.
Get over it. -
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