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- jana67, on 05/12/2008, -53/+161McCain will falter...He does not represent the American Conservative. "War hero" image is a media creation not supported by the facts:
McCain graduated 894th of the 899 cadets in his class at the Naval Academy. Google it. Why would we want someone who was a failure and took his responsibilities so flippantly as our commander-in-chief?
* McCain was an irresponsible pilot who crashed 6 planes, and started a major fire on an aircraft carrier through negligent action. Why would we want someone this reckless in the most-important office on the planet?
* McCain collaborated with the enemy, was given "soft" treatment because his father was an admiral, and is known as "Songbird McCain" by those who were imprisoned with him. (Vietnam Veterans Against McCain) He is the MIA/POW family's worst enemy for his constant attempts to belittle their concerns and stifle their inquiries while serving in the Senate.
McCain ditched his ill wife to marry an heiress when he returned from Vietnam http://www.restoretherepublic.com/content/view/110 ...
http://www.squidoo.com/groups/RonPaulRevolution - govsucks, on 05/12/2008, -8/+52Yeah, this guy has problems. I'm a conservative and I WILL NOT be voting for McCain. I would rather vote for Obama. But odds are I will vote for Paul even if I have to write it on the ballot with a sharpie. The Republipanders no longer represent true constitutional conservative freedom lovers like myself.
- dizilbdog, on 05/12/2008, -20/+61It's amazing how people think Mcain as a Republican is a good candidate. It's funny how Ron Paul offers more freedom and more liberty, and the people are like Uhm No we like being a slave in this corrupt system and we will take more with Mr. Mcain. It's just amazing to me
- n8o8, on 05/12/2008, -12/+51Hell yes he does! Ron Paul write in.
- NeoConned08, on 05/12/2008, -14/+51what caused the great depression ass hat? The Federal Reserve did with it's loose monetary policy. The Roaring 20's was dubbed that due to the amount of liquidity the Federal Reserve had created, far above and beyond what the gold standard mandated at that point in time. It caused malinvestment and the bubble eventually busted. Guess what's happening now with the housing bubble. Perhaps READ Ron Paul's new book to find out how sane the guy actually is before you start mouthing off about economics, which you apparently know nothing about.
- inactive, on 05/12/2008, -53/+94And if there hadn't been any voting fraud, McDouche would have garnered less than 25% of the Republican vote. How could he have gotten 45% of the vote with close to ZERO people on the ground supporting him?
- jaymzdean, on 05/12/2008, -6/+41Some of my friends are Columbian, and some of my friends are Mexican. The "Ignorant American" assumption to meeting someone from either group (Columbian or Mexican) is that they are Mexican. This is basically what's happened to the Republican party. You have the neoconservatives, who hold the power, and the conservatives, who don't hold the power (any more - not since sometime before Ronald Reagan). But, because Americans are an ignorant bunch (generally), they see (R) and immediately assume they're conservative. Ask a confirmed conservative if there's a difference, but be prepared for an earful.
- wonderchemist, on 05/12/2008, -5/+34Some people just punch the bubble of the person they dislike the least.
Some people just punch the bubble of the person with the name that sounds familiar.
Some people just punch the bubble of the person with a certain party next to their name.
Some people just punch the bubble of a random person. - reed311, on 05/12/2008, -16/+46I love how on Digg, people can make sweeping statements with absolutely no facts to back them up and they get dugg. The vote fraud thing would have been a conspiracy beyond comprehension. It would have included every small town clerk (my mom being one of them) in on the conspiracy. The small town clerks (who hand count their votes) would all have had to been in on the conspiracy to take votes away from Ron Paul. There are thousands of small towns and small town clerks, if this was the case somebody would have talked by now.
It's simply not realistic. It would be one of thing if Paul was winning every small town in America, or he was at least doing a lot better than his usual 5%. But, essentially, you would be accusing my mother of throwing away Ron Paul votes in a small town in Maine where he got less than 3% of the vote. - flavioribeiro, on 05/12/2008, -1/+29Excellent point. Unfortunately, people aren't completely wrong to equate Republican with Neoconservative, because the true conservatives are a minority. The ignorant American's generalization is a correct generalization, even if it's unfair to honest republicans out there.
Many people in the Ron Paul camp are trying to retake control of the GOP, starting at the local level. Others in the conservative movement advocate abandoning the GOP altogether, but with the current election rules this is political suicide. I'm all for a constitutionalist, true conservative takeover of the GOP.
Also, people born in Colombia are Colombians. - inactive, on 05/12/2008, -30/+60Remember the whole "Swift Boat" thing? I didn't question Kerry's service and don't question McCain's. Both did a hell of a lot more for their country than you likely ever will, and spreading ***** like this is moronic.
For example, the fire was not McCain's fault. He was almost killed in that incident. As for his flying, I'd like to see you land on a carrier before you bitch about his flying prowess.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fi ...
The "soft treatment" is still harsher than anything you or I have ever experienced. "Soft treatment" was when McCain was given medical treatment for his wounds after they found out who his father was. McCain is permanently physically debilitated from this "soft treatment" you speak of.
Anyway, in summary, you're a liar and you're pathetic. Give it up. - Sogui, on 05/12/2008, -3/+32This got 45 Diggs when most of these are either fabrications, irrelevant, or the wife thing, a complete lie.
His "ill wife" and he were separated for many years and the divorce was a mutual decisions (not ditched) and even to today his ex-wife supports him and his candidacy. - drmobutu, on 05/12/2008, -12/+38Oops, McCain isn't conservative enough? Don't worry, the Reverend Moon will tell you who to vote for...
- t0x2c, on 05/12/2008, -6/+30Your mom's a conspirator.
- Ne007, on 05/12/2008, -2/+24I liken voting republican to buying a car these days.
It has the name stamped on it, but it sure the hell isn't what it used to be. - gtluke, on 05/12/2008, -7/+31dude you just made half that ***** up or are posting some seriously stretched crap there.
he received "soft" treatment because they were afraid that if they killed him there would be serious repercussions for killing an admiral's son.
he didn't start the fire on the USS forrester, his plane or the one next to it was hit by the malfunctioned missile. he got horribly burned dragging another pilot from a burning plane
they beat confessions out of him - chaosium, on 05/12/2008, -15/+37"Remember the whole "Swift Boat" thing? I didn't question Kerry's service and don't question McCain's. Both did a hell of a lot more for their country than you likely ever will, and spreading ***** like this is moronic."
Yep. I'm a Dem and I don't want to see anyone attacking McCain's military career either.
Again, it completely ***** misses the point to this election. - wejmahtin, on 05/12/2008, -9/+36Not a ron paul fan, but I have to agree 100% with NeoConned... ( great name btw ) .. Ron wanted to take us back to where we were *before* the federal reserve *created* the great depression.
- kingp, on 05/12/2008, -1/+20I don't support Obama, and I hate Hillary...
- BrewmasterC, on 05/12/2008, -8/+27Ron has advocated pulling back to year 2000 spending levels. I don't think that is quite "great depression", which was caused by the federal reserve in the first place...
- NeoConned08, on 05/12/2008, -5/+24FIrst off, you are completely wrong. That wasn't Ron Paul's newsletter. It was a company that dealt in precious metals that wanted to attach his name to their newsletter. Dr. Paul ok'ed it but had nothing to do with the newsletter itself. He was a practicing physician and a congressman at the time of those newsletters. When he found out about what was being written in those letters he had his name removed from any association with them. What your saying should hold true for Oprah and the child molestations at the school in Africa. Her name was attached to it so obviously she is a child molester. ..........duh.
2. You definitely need to read up on your economics history. People didn't live in poverty before the New Deal. The New Deal is what dragged the Depression on for WAY long than it should have gone. Also, it was the newly created Federal Reserve that caused the Great Depression. They have openly admitted it. Their lose monetary policy caused malinvestment and the bubble to form which then burst and caused the Great Depression. Get your head out of the public school books and read Murray Rothbard's The Great Depression. The New Deal is one of the major contributing factors to the spawning of the completely and utterly failed socialist Nanny State that will consume the ENTIRE budget in a little more than 10 years. Go listen to the former Comptroller General David Walker to get a grip on the TRAINWRECK that is headed your way bro. Ron Paul advocates taking the ever expanding Central government back down to where it was initially intended to be by the Founding Fathers. Our Constitution was meant to restrain government. Why? Because when you give Government the opportunity to expand its power, you get what we have now. Illegal surveillance of citizens, policing the world aka empire building, taxation without representation, corruption etc. The founding fathers warned about alllllllllll this stuff specifically. They don't teach that to you in school though. You probably are one of the people that think socialism is the next step in human civilizations evolution. I can tell you now, it's not. It's a failed ideology that has bankrupted our nation. You'll be figuring this all out over the next 2-3 years as you watch petroleum sky rocket, and the value of our currency completely decimated to the point of crashing. - mcberg182, on 05/12/2008, -3/+29I don't understand what you mean.
- deadbaby, on 05/12/2008, -5/+22We live in the age of mass media. You don't need someone knocking on your door or giving a speech in your town to learn about a candidate anymore
- t0x2c, on 05/12/2008, -9/+26And then there are the select few that actually know the candidates and vote for who they think will be the best next president.
- chaosium, on 05/12/2008, -5/+21There's an academic difference, but the GOP and the conservative newsorgans aren't interested in traditional conservatism.
It's hard to make a profit on. - chaosium, on 05/12/2008, -11/+27Because we're not LARPers in some sort of nerdy conspiracy game. A healthy distrust of the government is one thing, assuming that people aren't full of ***** on every possible conspiracy is another.
- DeskFlyer, on 05/12/2008, -0/+13I can't stand McCain, but claiming that he was responsible for the USS Forrestal disaster is simply ludicrous. Keep your attacks factual if you wish to have any shred of credibility.
- mtekk, on 05/12/2008, -0/+13We have a term for them, I believe it is neocon
- faskippy, on 05/12/2008, -3/+16"so, when mccain runs against hillary or obama who are the conservatives going to vote for?
he's not conservative enough, but he's a ***** ton less socialist than obama."
And, there you have it, folks! A perfect example of how NOT to decide who to vote for. Why, it's a ***** moron train! All aboard!! We spend day and night, discussing and complaining about the war, taxes, liberty, foreign policy, Constitutional losses, and corrupt government. Bitch, bitch, bitch. Then along comes a man, seasoned by ten terms in Congress, always standing for the citizen, and willing to stand by that no matter who throws their best, and what do those whining bastards do? They decide to vote for exactly who the media and big business let them choose from, that's what. They watch it happen, they hear others talk about it. They know it is happening, but they still let them get away with it. Well, I'm not a sellout, and I'm definitely not an idiot. I still know how to check a damn voting record, and I can still read. It wouldn't matter to me if my one vote was the only one Ron Paul gets. That one vote would render itself valuable simply because it is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in the other candidates. After reading their voting records, as well as seeing them for who they really are through their trials and associations, only an idiot would vote for any of those liars, IMO. The funny thing is, if you had a ballot where you could vote your heart, (which you can) and there was a choice marked "no confidence in either candidate", and each of those votes went to Ron, then he would win by a landslide. - thepretext, on 05/12/2008, -5/+18He has a point, dunno why he's being dugg down. I wen to the Hillary forum for kicks after she lost North CarolIna and they were all shouting fraud.
- dizilbdog, on 05/12/2008, -4/+16And Mcain is a Winning Ticket??? hahahahahahah
- Arcueid01, on 05/12/2008, -1/+14I think that they should write in Paul for his principles, not to give the other party an edge. It isn't about parties it is about issues and stances on those issues.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/12/2008, -0/+11Buried for outright lies.
- inactive, on 05/12/2008, -7/+20False. His war record is easily readable by anyone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#Military_ ... - DOCKAUF55, on 05/12/2008, -7/+18That's because Rommney and Giuliani had no ideas. They were simply the same ***** in different packages. Ron Paul is still the only truly conservative running.
***** THE NEOCONS! - IphtashuFitz, on 05/12/2008, -2/+15All you people who think that McCain caused the fire on the USS Forrestal might want to try doing even a little bit of research. It's well known that McCain was in one of the aircraft that was hit by the rocket that started the disaster. He wasn't in the plane that fired the rocket. There are some claims that he did something that caused the plane behind his to trigger the rocket launch, and other claims that he panicked and released the bombs on his plane after his plane was hit. None of that is true. Do your own research into the accident and you'll see that for yourself. And by doing research I don't mean just using Google to see what you can find. There's a lot of false information about the incident on the internet thanks to people trying to "Swift boat" him... The US Navy worked closely with National Geographic to produce an episode of the tv show "Seconds from Disaster" that shows exactly what really happened on board the air craft carrier. Go watch that. Don't believe what people are posting on the internet about it.
- TinternAbbot, on 05/12/2008, -1/+13A lot of my conservative friends say they won't vote for McCain.
- hedgeland, on 05/12/2008, -0/+11He also faces doubts among humans.
- dgarry7, on 05/12/2008, -1/+13if you vote for the lesser evil, you're still voting for evil
- SouthsideIrish, on 05/12/2008, -1/+11Look douchebag, of all of the things he has done, he did not start a fire the USS Forrestal. Thar accident was on the history channel, and his airplane is the one that got shot with a missile. The film is all in beautiful b/w and he was sitting there minding his own business when his plane blew. Get it right! I dislike him too, but don't blame him for things he didn't do, especially when it is in a History Channel TV show.
- stienster, on 05/12/2008, -12/+22what are those "excellent reasons"?
- saxreturns, on 05/12/2008, -4/+15Well then, by your logic I am a fool. I've spoken to plenty of conservatives, especially on digg, who would rather see Obama in the White House than McCain. Hell, Obama's even expressed a willingness to take on some conservatives as part of his team of advisors should he be elected. Given that McCain would most likely just continue the dynasty of neo-conservatism that has hijacked and all but ruined the Republican party, I wouldn't be surprised to see many conservatives voting Democrat come November.
- mal1964, on 05/12/2008, -1/+11"War hero image"
Its real not an image, Because real hero's are human and have flaws. Just like you and me.
PS That's a ***** attack in my book. - King0007, on 05/12/2008, -3/+13John McCain has a BIG Enemy.....Himself.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI - TonyLocNE, on 05/12/2008, -4/+22Democrat Woodrow Wilson I will add. He also is responsible for unlawfully instituting the federal income tax.
- TonyLocNE, on 05/12/2008, -1/+13As someone who absolutely does not agree with Obama, nor his supporters... The Hamas endorsement argument is so ***** lame, and I wouldn't doubt if it was in some way fabricated to make it appear as if John McCain was tough on terrorism. Would it not make obvious sense, if Hamas truly wanted Obama to be president because he is "weak on terrorism", they would endorse John McCain. The old reverse-psychology bit.
Buried as you being a complete imbecile... Obvious disinformation from a crooked administration. - PeppermintPig, on 05/12/2008, -7/+16"and the fed. reserve has done a good job keeping the economy stable and prosperous ever since."
Since going off gold backing, the dollar is now worth ~4 cents. So far so good, eh? Is this your definition of stable and prosperous??
"The point is, Ron Paul wants to return to a Laissez-Faire government, but we know that such a government was doomed to fail."
Do we, really? Does chaos ensue every time two people come to an agreement and exchange goods without paying the state for the privilege of doing business?
Corporate power exists as a consequence of government, because corporations are government recognized entities.
Rich people are rich, and poor people are poor, and that's not fair. That's about the simplest way I can describe the argument of class. Labels like this don't explain why people are rich, or poor, nor do they give respect to people as individuals able to exceed beyond the labels you give them. - RebeL5K, on 05/12/2008, -1/+10I love how in your attempts to bitch about Americans making sweeping generalities, you hypocritically proceed to generalize that most Americans are ignorant. Way to go, Ace.
- Jackson0909, on 05/12/2008, -1/+9Where is the original posters proof? I really wish I knew why people liked you existed. You bring absolutely nothing to the table of life beside *****.
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