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- voxlisa999, on 08/30/2008, -38/+323Rove on Face the Nation a couple weeks ago:
"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."
Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.
"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."
Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/10/ftn/main ... - MercyPolitics, on 08/30/2008, -43/+240 Americans should think twice about making Palin the person " One heart beat away" ( in the case of a 72 years man, it is not that far fetched) of becoming the Commander in Chief ". That, would be a scary prospect.
- chrissku, on 08/30/2008, -40/+195My Dad has been a Republican his whole life and he told me last night that John McCain "lost his god dam marbles." He said McCain lost his vote and he'd vote for Obama.
I laughed, I cried, I rejoiced.
Obama/Biden 08 - wuvamber, on 08/30/2008, -38/+153I'd rather go back and vote for Hillary (and for me, that's really saying something) than see someone so inexperienced become VP with another idiot-in-chief. McCain is wrong if he thinks that dangling a female running mate in front of us will magically sway women voters.
- x1soundgarden1x, on 08/30/2008, -11/+105Do you know what the first two "powers and duties" are for the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska? Check their municipal code to see what Palin was doing just TWO YEARS AGO:
1. Preside at council meetings. The mayor may take part in the discussion of matters before the council, but may not vote, except that the mayor may vote in the case of a tie;
2. Act as ceremonial head of the city;
She will be a Great Commander and Chief..!!!!! - rawg, on 08/30/2008, -23/+112McCain just undermined all of his arguments against Obama in this election and now he's got nothing to campaign on but convincing everyone that another 4 years of the last 8 years is a good idea. Poor judgment, John. McCain isn't someone I want making important decisions about my country and my children's future.
- BowieX, on 08/30/2008, -30/+100Everybody with me now, MCCAIN FIRST! COUNTRY SECOND! Wooooooooo!
- tgspam12, on 08/30/2008, -25/+95I just keep thinking Harriet Miers
- algaeturd, on 08/30/2008, -35/+98This is exactly what the republicans did with Iraq. They totally forgot what they went over there for and just wanted to 'win' through any and every means necessary. Unfortunately, they still lost.
But that's what republicans do: Most are too uneducated or naturally dumb to see the big picture. McCain wins White House (by some freak of nature...we know it won't happen but just bear with me...) and he gets in the White House and is like, 'now what do I do? ' And he and Palin look at one another and think, 'Oh, *****. We screwed up.'
And then America does the same thing it did 5 years after electing bush: "Oh, *****. We screwed up."
Americans never learn from their mistakes. It's one of the things that makes them endearing and impossible at the same time. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -33/+76Joe Biden never looked so capable.
- Kratos76, on 08/30/2008, -23/+65My friend, it's all about judgment and character. Of which the Republican party has neither.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 08/30/2008, -27/+64I love how the Digg Smear Machine is in full effect almost immediately after Palin was nominated. No mention of how it's a pretty damned big dead that a woman is nominated for VP. No mention of how she's actually a fiscal conservative, and not in name only. No mention of how she took down a lot of corrupt people in her own party for being greasy asshats. Nope, it's all hate and smear around here! I'm not saying she's the best choice, but in typical Digg fashion, any of her redeeming qualities are completely ignored because of her political party.
And I find it hilarious that Digg is blasting her for lack of experience. Is Obama much more experienced than her? Not really. And she's the friggin' veep. How much weight does the VP carry, exactly? - dBass, on 08/30/2008, -16/+53Got to love the MSM: McCain panders by grabbing a woman for the ticket to copy the Dems, and the MSM says it's a "maverick" move! WTF!
Where's that 'red pill' when you need it? - phildutra, on 08/30/2008, -16/+53Why would McCain pick a running mate who is currently under state investigation for abusing her power in office? Of all the GOP woman he could have chosen, why pick one who is already under a cloud of suspicion? What does this say about his judgement and his motives?
- stonecircle, on 06/11/2009, -13/+49Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.
As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel. After announcing his presidential campaign in February 2007, Obama emphasized withdrawing American troops from Iraq, energy independence, decreasing the influence of lobbyists, and promoting universal health care as top national priorities.
Palin’s been governor of Alaska for eighteen months and they’re putting her on the presidential ticket with a 69-year-old guy with cancer? Alaska? It’s a great state, but she presides over more bears than people.
So much for the theory that Barack Obama is under-experienced. Last time I checked, the population of Chicago far exceeded the 6,000 folks Palin boasts of governing as mayor. Palin boasts only a Bachelors of Science degree at University of Idaho. Do your homework and check Obama's resume before you make such an erroneous supposition that they are equally qualified. Not a snowball's chance!
Ethics? There are two ongoing investigations against Palin for abuse of power and ethics violations and she could even face impeachment from her post as Governor. - Echota, on 01/05/2009, -34/+70I wouldn't think being,much less calling, a mayor of a small town of less then 6,000 and Gov. of Alaska for 18 months is experience.
If McCain had been thinking of the Nation and Not about gaining votes he would have chosen a much better qualified person fo his VP.
With McCain,it's about his Ambition and not about the security and properity of America.
If ambition or political points were all Obama had been out to gain he would have chosen Hillary Clinton.
Sarah Palin IS NO HILLARY CLINTON!
DOSEN'T EVEN COME CLOSE!
OBAMA/BIDEN 08!
No Way,No How, NO MCAIN/ PALIN IN 08!!! - bullhead2007, on 08/30/2008, -19/+55I'm starting to think the Huffington Post is his official PR company.
"Huffington Post would rather write a bunch of crappy blogs with crappy web design than make a few articulate and well written articles." - sbader, on 08/30/2008, -13/+49Well by that criteria she'd have more experience than McCain at being an "executive".
- thefirstenemy, on 08/30/2008, -7/+38Your height of political discourse staggers me. I feel comfortable knowing the fate of this country will rest in the hands of brave men just like yourself on November 4th.
- n8o8, on 08/30/2008, -21/+50Wow the McCainites are really out in full swing today on Digg!
- KDX200rider, on 08/30/2008, -18/+47I agree rdr97, Digg has been turned over to the leftwing digg drones loons. The Crappington Post has a direct line to Digg.
- inactive, on 08/30/2008, -76/+103It looks like Hufington Post just came all over the front page.
I used to love that Digg was slightly leftist, but this is going too far.
I'm pretty sure Obama's camp hired internet drones that were much stronger than McCain's (go ahead, bury me drones). - harbon, on 08/30/2008, -6/+32George Bush was governor of Texas for five years before being elected. Previous executive "experience" means NOTHING.
Afterall, Abraham Lincoln only served 2 years in the House of Representatives before being elected president. - Soave, on 08/30/2008, -11/+36I'm so sick of the phrase "one heartbeat away" already.
- stonecircle, on 06/11/2009, -7/+32"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America." ????
Hmm, Palin was mayor of a town of 6,000 people, and governor for only 18 months. Most of us in the private sector would just be off "probation" at 18 months, and certainly considered a rookie.
To think it plausible to compare Palin's paltry Bachelor of Science degree to Obama's degrees obtained from Harvard Law School and Columbia are ludicrous. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.
Washington will eat this woman alive. - algaeturd, on 08/30/2008, -9/+33Good quote. Since McCain and Palin only met ONCE previously, methinks this is most definitely a prearranged marriage by papa ROVE. How else would you choose a woman you've met one time to be your second in command?
Wasn't McCain a military man? How does he not understand the whole 'second in command, got your back' concept?
HOW? - TSK05, on 08/30/2008, -14/+38Scandalous governor? Her approval rating is through the roof. The only thing people claim she did wrong is that she wanted a cop fired who threatened to kill his wife and tasered her 11 year old child. Yeah, that's terrible.
- terminalV3, on 08/30/2008, -1/+25and you're an ass for thinking someone shouldn't live because of their political view.
- flip2trip, on 08/30/2008, -20/+43"scandalous governor"?
Are you high or just stupid? Palin has a reputation for cleaning up corruption, I guess that would be scandalous to a leftist. - Guitarist970, on 08/30/2008, -6/+28As big of an Obama supporter as I am I regard the Huffington Post about as highly as I do Free Republic. They're both such biased news sources that I really don't waste my time reading them. I'd rather take the extra time and research the candidates platforms and voting records myself then form my opinions off of some pissed off liberal nut or militant right wingers.
- ap0616, on 08/30/2008, -17/+36With all due respect, vexingmodstwo, it is you who are desperate ("Is this how desperate you are?"..) Desperation has nothing to do with it.
Your abrasive and uniformed arguments (and not just on this post... I've seen your tripe all over the place) are really getting quite tired.
Oh, and anyone else who happens to be reading this, it is official as of last night's speech. The next person who questions Obama's patriotism in your presence, feel free to laugh in his or her face.
PS: vex, stop being such a douchebag.
- inactive, on 08/30/2008, -2/+21Buried for smuggling spam.
- JekJob, on 08/30/2008, -31/+47He has more experience. Please get your facts straight. This woman was a town mayor only two years ago.
- acroyear2, on 08/30/2008, -7/+22Sanity vs PUMAs
Palin denies global warming is man-made
Yup. Yup.
Palin doesn't believe in abortion not even in case of rape or incest.
Yup. Yup.
McCain wants to invade Iran.
Yup. Yup.
McCain intentionally chose Palin just to manipulate you.
Yup. Yup.
Palin has a vagina.
Yup. Yup. - TSK05, on 08/30/2008, -15/+30Oh, so having executive experience has no relation to being in the executive branch....but being on a large committee (Obama as senator) means everything.
Palin has never worked in Washington? Good! Maybe she is the change Obama promises to be (she's certainly done more about big oil than Obama has). I thought you liked Obama because he wasn't that same old politician .... but here is someone who has actually done the things Obama claims he will do (although on a smaller level thus far), and you oppose her. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -10/+25Preach, man. There is more hypocrisy and idiocy on Digg that the internet should be able to handle. Palin, nor Obama, have the experience to be president. Yet, Obama is the one running for president. Why does he get a free pass on digg?
- n8o8, on 08/30/2008, -10/+25The title to this submission is exactly expresses my biggest problem with this whole situation. It is a dramatic illustration of how far principles have been pushed down in lieu of the "ends justify the means" mentality that has created nearly all of America's current and worst problems.
Regardless if you agree with him on policy, can you imagine Ron Paul doing something like this? Never. - tibs, on 08/30/2008, -3/+17OK, two things.
1: the point is in short that Obama did not do not act like Rove said above but McCain did.
2: voxlisa999's post is not from the linked article to the Huffington post. - TSK05, on 08/30/2008, -9/+22DangerCollie - you've got to be joking. Picking Palin was a stroke of genious, she brings some Hillary's votes, she brings women, she brings votes from actual conservatives (which McCain has been strungling with), she brings some independents which are impressed with her fight with big oil and her appointing independents and even Democrats in power and also whistleblowing on Republicans (like the Republican chair of Alaska who she exposed and he was forced to resign). In short, she brings a lot of votes.
Biden on the other hand alienates a lot of Independents and Democrats because he is the opposite of change. - enki25, on 08/30/2008, -2/+14You're going to have to learn to speak English before we can have a conversation.
- hinchb, on 08/30/2008, -2/+14No ***** sherlock, Kaine is a democrat. The point was that McCain did exactly what Rove was saying Obama would do just to win. You guys are so ***** dense.
- ulsterwrod, on 08/30/2008, -9/+21You all are saying she has no experience, but you won't say that about Obama!!!
Hypocrites!!!!
And she is only going to be VP. If you don't know, VPs don't do a whole. And stop all the crap about McCains 'cancer'. It was just skin and cancer and was not the deadly form. Also he doesn't have any health problems. His own mother is 96 and going strong.
Obama is the dangerous one..he is the one lacking in experience to be voted in as Prez. Palin is just running with McCain for the VP position. Get your facts straight. - scrotumbrau, on 08/30/2008, -10/+22My mission on Digg used to be to bury anyone using the phrase "epic fail". Now, my sole purpose is to bury every Huffpo article that hits the front page.
- alecadvent, on 08/30/2008, -1/+13That looks like it was typed by a 12 year-old with bigots for parents.
Tell me son, are you twelve? - JekJob, on 08/30/2008, -17/+28There's all this talk about executive experience. That doesn't mean *****, especially if she only ran a small town for a couple years. If Obama had been a mayor and then a governor, you'd be saying that HE didn't have enough experience.
And you need to be comparing Biden with Palin and Obama with McCain. There's no point in putting Palin and Obama together because they won't have the same responsibilities in the White House. - cygnus2112, on 08/30/2008, -31/+42@JekJob: Perhaps you should get your facts straight.
Palin entered public politics in 1992. Obama entered public politics in 1997. Palin has served in executive positions (mayor, governor). Obama has never served in an executive government position. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -50/+61This choice was to please the EXTREME right wing of the Republican Party. The addition to the ticket of an unqualified woman to the ticket is not going to get votes from Hillary Clinton supporters. McCane (which is how I am now going to spell his name after such a feeble minded choice) blew it.
Can you imagine debates between Biden and the former runner up of the Miss Alaska Pageant?
read this related link http://fitnesscure.blogspot.com/ - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -2/+13@ JekJob
Apparently you know nothing about politics. Find one presidential ticket where the Pres and Vice Pres candidates agreed on everything. Stop throwing out gaudy numbers to prove your weak generalization. - bleutuna, on 08/30/2008, -6/+17OMG. I love this! Thank you or this find! This is so nice to have.
it's amazing to see pigvomit himself stating ALL THE REASONS why Palin is such a bad choice! - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -4/+15Welcome to the Internet, sir. Please have a seat over there.
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