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- rkettner, on 05/22/2008, -63/+404Anybody can see that McCain doesn't actually believe this. He just HAS to hold up the banner of the republican party. Ellen makes the logic clear... and McCain doesn't even bother with a logical response. If he was a true Republican, he would at least be arguing how God condemns gay marriage or something like that (not that I agree with that... but that IS what a hardcore republican would say).
Hopefully people can see that this guy is just a military guy dressed up as a Christian for the sake of the Republican party. - Semirhage527, on 05/22/2008, -116/+406I'll never understand how people can think the way McCain does. I've tried, and I just can't. It's so obvious to me that any notion of contracts, civil unions -- anything other than marriage for gay couples is separate but equal (at best), and separate but equal is NOT okay. Straight people enter into non-religious, civil marriages all the time. Religion has nothing to do with it. If a church doesn't want to perform gay marriages, it doesn't have to -- but if straight people can have civil marriages, then gay people must be allowed to have civil marriages too, anything else seems so obviously Unconstitutional.
I can't fathom that many Clinton supporters will be able to actually vote for McCain over Obama as the general election drags on and McCain talks more and more about issues such as gay marriage and abortion. - brianpeiris, on 05/22/2008, -29/+291I wish Ellen had pushed him more.
I don't mind that he disagrees, if only he had some inkling of rational thought to support his stance.
"I just believe in the unique status of marriage between man and woman." is not an argument, he might as well have quoted the Old Testament. - ndesantis, on 05/22/2008, -38/+270***** THING DOESN'T SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE!
- JoshuaLowe, on 05/22/2008, -13/+195With every other problem there is in the world, how the hell do people have the energy to be so vehemently opposed to something so trivial?
- seany231, on 05/22/2008, -8/+169I don't understand why he would agree to do the show. He must have known that the topic would come up, and why he would want to debate that with a known lesbian on national tv in front of a crowd rooting for her without any pre-thought remarks on why he feels that way is beyond me.
- inactive, on 05/22/2008, -22/+183McCain is old.
- imnojezus, on 05/22/2008, -6/+150If he was a TRUE Republican, he'd believe she could do whatever she wanted as long as she wasn't harming herself or others, that the federal government should stay out of the matter as much as possible, that churches should define marriage, and that states define civil unions for taxation purposes.
- 3toe, on 05/22/2008, -14/+147Newsflash: Obama and Hilary do not support same sex marriage either.
- inactive, on 05/22/2008, -32/+154Yes go McCain!!!
I want to vote for a person who wants to limits American citizens liberty!
/sarcasm - nblsavage, on 05/22/2008, -6/+88Obama personally believes that "marriage is between a man and a woman" but also ways that "equality is a moral imperative" for gay and lesbian Americans. He advocates the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) because "federal law should not discriminate in any way against gay and lesbian couples, which is precisely what DOMA does." He supports granting civil unions for gay couples, and in 2006 he opposed a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. In March 2007, Obama initially avoided answering questions about a controversial statement by a U.S. general that "homosexual acts" are "immoral," but Obama later told CNN's Larry King, "I don't think that homosexuals are immoral any more than I think heterosexuals are immoral."
Not perfect but a lot better than McCain's stance. - SC4RP, on 05/22/2008, -12/+88Where in the Constitution does it give the feds the right to regulate marriage? If Ohio votes yes, Great. If Georgia votes No, Great. It is a local issue;not a federal one.
- bkrock, on 05/22/2008, -8/+83separate but equal rarely is
- vinnyvenus, on 05/22/2008, -27/+94Neither Clinton nor Obama supports the idea of gay marriage. America is very very conservative on social issues..
- pintomp3, on 05/23/2008, -4/+70WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? " TO GAY US OUT?"
- Sogui, on 05/22/2008, -6/+70I also disagree with McCain here, but cmon, this is a Republican Presidential Candidate who have been anti-gay marriage/civil union for years and years. Though he isn't nearly as hard line as some of his peers, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, at least he has to balls to go on a show like Ellen and disagree with the host on such a major issue and still be very respectful and courteous about it.
And as some more objective Diggers have pointed out, Obama and Clinton share a very similar position on the issue. - GrodyChamp, on 05/22/2008, -20/+84All 3 canidates have said they don't support "marriage" between gays. At least McCain had the balls to go on her show and say that. I'd lvoe to see Obama go on there and double speak about it for 5 minutes.
- inactive, on 05/22/2008, -13/+68Gay people are already getting married, and they always have whether the government recognizes it or not. Laws never stop people from being people. It's time to get over it and grow up. It's time the gay folks have the same rights I do.
- sodade, on 05/22/2008, -4/+58Actually, we have no clue what the candidates real opinions are. Idiot america has dictated that this stupid ***** crap is important to winning elections.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/22/2008, -44/+97Prove me wrong if you can, but I am pretty certain that Obama and McCain share the same opinion on gay marriage.
- DonWigler, on 05/22/2008, -16/+68How about government getting out of what should be private contracts altogether.
- ClevelandBrown, on 05/22/2008, -21/+71McCain ran with the dinosaurs.
- CaptainCool53, on 05/22/2008, -4/+47Yea, God forbid a man should try to marry anything other than a woman. I mean, if we as a society were to let that happen, why not just open our borders to the terrorists and communists and Hispanics.
On the other hand, there's the argument that a man's marrying a Buick or another man has ZERO effect on anybody else, and therefore is nobody else's business. Also, to enter into a contract such as marriage, both parties have to have the mental capacity to enter into said contract. That rules out sheep, cattle, rocks, and Buicks, so you can calm down about that. - papastout, on 05/22/2008, -11/+54...and you shouldn't be able to get elected
- chix0r, on 05/22/2008, -2/+42Because for some reason "he didn't want to come on my show!" doesn't sound very good. Especially to a presidential candidate.He has to be willing to answer the hard questions from people he might not agree with.
- cplusplus, on 05/22/2008, -6/+43Yes, bad judgment doing the Ellen show. Oh well, he won't need good judgment to be president. Oh, nevermind.
- Dumbledorito, on 05/22/2008, -1/+38Beliefs without consideration aren't adequate for policy, no. It's like saying it's your personal belief that nobody should have their business open on Sunday, because you believe it's wrong to work on that particular day. Or perhaps you believe that black cats should be exterminated. Or that red-headed people shouldn't have the same rights as others.
Unless you trot out some compelling arguments, "personal beliefs" are as valid as using ice cream flavor preference as a test for voting eligibility. - RedClaw, on 05/22/2008, -5/+41Rock on. That's the best definition of a Republican stance on this issue that I have ever read.
- Gimpishi, on 05/23/2008, -1/+36Shhh... this is digg, remember?
- WELLDOITLIVE, on 05/22/2008, -7/+42WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
- CaptainCool53, on 05/22/2008, -1/+34I respect him at least for doing so many shows with known ideological opponents (Ellen, Jon Stewart). It's easy to speak in front of people who agree with every word. Not so much for people who disagree.
I would have liked to see him use some logic in his argument (although I can't say I've ever heard a logical argument against same-sex marriage). - ohplease, on 05/22/2008, -3/+36
Whether or not two gay people get married doesn't affect you and is none of your business. The fact that you think you have a say in it is disgusting. - inactive, on 05/22/2008, -14/+47People like you limit mankind's potential.
- ligyron, on 05/22/2008, -5/+36***** IT! WE'LL DO IT PRIVATELY
- azimir, on 05/22/2008, -0/+31"Marriage is a religious institution!" -- Then the US government shouldn't be involved in them.
"all we would have is civil unions" -- Yes, a legally binding contract entangling two people's finances and guaranteeing their right to make decisions for one another. This *is* something the government can be involved in.
Perhaps the US government should not be involved in marriages at all? Why do you feel the need for the government to "approve" of your caring and life sharing for another. Outside of the bureaucracy, red tape and legal issues, they shouldn't be involved at all - for ANYONE. - garg, on 05/22/2008, -4/+34Yea because sheep, cattle, rocks are two consenting adults?
A bright guy like you is probably voting for mccain, right? - kelly, on 05/22/2008, -18/+46Actually, you're right... but watch as diggers digg you down anyways.
- SpikeLee, on 05/22/2008, -3/+31Thats actually very true.
- hatemeordie, on 05/23/2008, -2/+28I think you're all missing the point of this comment. He's not saying its a non issue. He's saying it shouldn't be an issue. We as humans should be intelligent enough to realize that regardless of your sexual preference it should not be a contributing factor in marriage. No harm no foul. Calm down!!!!
- GregFD3S, on 05/22/2008, -3/+29Obama voted against the Constitutional Amendment to Ban Gay Marriage in 2006.
- CaptainCool53, on 05/22/2008, -3/+28Because there is no compromise necessary. The Fourteenth Amendment tells us that every person is equal under the law. To separate people based on their sexual preference and tell some of them that they cannot legally get married is unconstitutional.
- sorendayton, on 05/22/2008, -12/+38Excuse me. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton agree with McCain. What are you people freaking about? At least McCain has the honesty to go on Ellen and tell the truth there.
- CrimsonBlur, on 05/22/2008, -4/+27You are a moron unworthy of a thoughtful response.
- pintomp3, on 05/23/2008, -4/+27Every two years the Human Rights Campaign, the largest national gay and lesbian organization, issues a scorecard for members of the Senate based on their sponsorship and voting on key issues of importance to gay and lesbian citizens. John McCain scored 33 out of 100% in the 2006 scorecard. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton both scored 89.
http://www.hrc.org/documents/HRCscorecard2006.pdf (pdf warning) - inactive, on 05/22/2008, -22/+45Xbox live has just banned the user name EllenDeGeneres
- crowbar77, on 05/22/2008, -23/+44Anyway you look at it, you can't possibly believe someone just wakes up one morning and decides they want to be gay. It's something your born with and you shouldn't be punished because of it, otherwise its no different than discriminating because of someones skin color.
- BrainInAJar, on 05/23/2008, -2/+24kelly:
actually the reason there's a difference has absolutely nothing to do with perversion. You're allowed to be as perverted as you like.
Problem with necro/pedophilia ( or necro-pedophilia... wanting to do it with dead kids... ) is that of consent. A child can't give consent, a corpse can't give consent... another adult of your same gender can, so there's nothing the state has to say about it - RoadDoggFL, on 05/23/2008, -1/+22What's so hard about banning all civil marriages and calling them civil unions? Bam, I'm no longer married to my wife, we're civilly united. Everything is the same legally, I'm no more or less married to her than I was before, nor am I any more or less married to her than a gay man is to his spouse.
Reserve the term "marriage" (what people are getting so hung up on) for religious unions and the problem is solved. It's not like it'll stop me from calling my wife my wife and saying we're married. It just won't say so on our marriage (excuse me, civil union) license. - str1fe, on 05/23/2008, -1/+22I know plenty of married atheists.
- rationalist, on 05/23/2008, -0/+21Civil marriages are contractual arrangements recognized by law that have no connection whatsoever to any religion.
If you claim that marriage is inherently "religious" (which religion's dogma should apply?), then divorce must be inherently "religious" as well - do you support federal legislation outlawing the right of women to divorce? Divorce happens to be prohibited in certain religions.
By the same token, adoption children - hell, choosing to have children at all - should be "religious". I suppose you support federal legislation outlawing all forms of birth control as well, since those could be construed as violating some religion's constrictions.
Oh, and let's not forget that it should be illegal to charge interest.
Hell, let's just install Sharia law here and be done with it. -
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