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- themightylex, on 07/18/2008, -6/+18We have given too many passes to John McCain, and to his lack sound judgment or knowledge Foreign Affairs. Beyond mixing Shia and Sunni, or not knowing if Hamid Karzai is President of Iraq or Afghanistan, John McCain has been wrong on the best way to keep the United States safe.
McCain's strategy for launching a war in Iraq and staying there indefinitely, unlike Senator Obama’s, is a policy of retreat in the war on terror. It has made us less secure, and allowed extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan to regain their strength. John McCain in 2003 was horribly wrong – there was no "muddling through" in Afghanistan. There was either taking the fight to the enemy, or not. He chose not. That was a grave error in his judgment.
A shocking new video shows that in 2003, in front of the Council on Foreign Relations, Senator John McCain said he was more concerned with the war in Iraq, and that we could "muddle through in Afghanistan" without a large number of forces.
The many gaffes made during this should not be treated with the usual forgiveness the press typically applies to McCain's blunders. George W. Bush was treated with kid gloves in much the same way, and it was a disaster for this nation. We must stand vigilante now. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -0/+9Afghanistan provided Al-Qaeda who attacked the US with a base of operation.
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -1/+9Let me explain it to you like this.
If I let a serial killer live in my house knowing that he was a killer gave him food, shelter the cops would also arrest me even though I did not kill anyone I know he was a killer and I still gave him food, shelter. - wheelfoot, on 07/18/2008, -1/+9Yes - McCain again mixes up countries. He does say Karzai controls Iraq to the borders of Kabul. Just like Russia is cutting gas off to Czechoslovakia.
Also - this headline is way too complimentary - McCain actually says we MAY muddle through. He's not even sure about the muddling.
His mind is muddled. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -2/+919 members of Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11 Al-Qaeda was based in Afghanistan.
- Ozzsanity, on 07/18/2008, -2/+9I am looking forward to debates with Obama and McCain. Obama will show the world just how senile McCain is.
- bjornski, on 07/18/2008, -0/+6Hey wait, I know! Why don't you post some JOHN BOLTON articles too!
- chrisfry, on 07/18/2008, -5/+11Another ounce of misjudgment by McCain. When will the MSM see all those ounces adding up to pounds and pounds of poor judgment calls and call out McCain for it? This man would be a poor commander-in-chief. Obama is clearly a superior thinker and problem solver.
- Terr01, on 07/18/2008, -2/+8That's iffy at best. The Taliban did offer to turn over Bin Laden to a third-party (e.g. switzerland) for trial, but I believe that in many ways it was significantly more defensible than the invasion of Iraq.
- swrostmore, on 07/18/2008, -2/+7The disgraced neoconservative Charles Krauthammer is not not a valid source on the subject of US foreign policy.
"Time is running short. Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. He is working on nuclear weapons. And he has every incentive to pass them on to terrorists who will use them against us."
-Charles Krauthammer 4/19/2002 - rz8472, on 07/18/2008, -6/+11So much for military experience. One of the first rules that any commander should learn is NOT TO FIGHT A WAR ON TWO FRONTS - just look at what it did for Hitler. So while McCain's story may be inspiring on a personal level, his claim of having more tactical and strategic vision than Obama because of those experiences is *****.
- deadbaby, on 07/18/2008, -0/+5Awesome. Let us know how that turns out for you sweetie. Now shh honey. The grownups are talking.
- bjornski, on 07/18/2008, -0/+5Krauthammer?
Christ, why don't you like to some Bill Kristol and Michael Chertoff articles too. Those people LIVE for war with Iran (as long as they don't have to enlist!). Their articles will *ALWAYS* be pro-war and tout the "benefits".
They'll fit in well with the Pam Atlas, Debbue Schlussed, Ann Coulter and Jonah Goldberg *****. - bsmang, on 07/19/2008, -0/+4I've read that guy before. He's about as smart as a brick. Oh, and there is nothing to "win" in Iraq. Whenever we leave there, whatever was going to happen will happen - whether we left now, or back when Saddam was captured, or 10 years from now.
- rac1234, on 07/18/2008, -4/+8Not sure if I'm hearing him right, but does McCain say in this video that President Karzai "controls all of Iraq 'til you get to the city limits of Kabul"? If so, he's certainly muddling through, with the emphasis on the muddle.
- bunit03057, on 07/18/2008, -2/+6It seems the only thing muddling through are chico's thoughts.
- bjornski, on 07/18/2008, -0/+4I think you mean "vigilant".
But I'd cheer on some vigilante action. - defwheezer, on 07/18/2008, -6/+9McCain- it's going to be fun to watch that wacky old geezer do a slow spiral into landslide defeat in Nov.
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -1/+4DiggGeek24, you hit the nail right on the head. In fact if charges were brought against you they would be the same charges as the offender.
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -3/+612 yr old logic>neocon logic.
go figure. - Jamihabs, on 07/18/2008, -5/+8Here is an article by Charles Krauthammer that explains why winning in Iraq is more important.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - nickels, on 07/19/2008, -0/+3McCain, like Bush, doesn't need to win any election. Last time I checked we are all still voting on those Republican, oops I mean Diebold voting machines. You know, those ones that are easily hacked and leave no paper trail. Yay democracy!
- Groovydoo, on 07/19/2008, -1/+4Muddle through? I don't want to "muddle" through Afghanistan! I grew up watching the older kids who got drafted "muddling" through Vietnam and then seeing a majority of them coming back completely broken. They weren't "muddling" through it! They were suffering through it and I am not going to vote my tax dollars towards a "strategic plan"such as that!
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2The surge hasn't been a success at all. It was a stop gap measure designed to reduce troop levels to below where they were when it started, to stop attacks on US soldiers and Iraqi military/civilians, and to push forward political change in Iraq.
Has any of that happened?
NO.
The surge has only met 3 out of 18 of the Bush administration's own benchmarks!
The surge amounts to putting more troops in there - which is what critics of the Iraq war said was needed from the beginning, by the way - and that is of course going to have the practical effect of allowing us to beat down the insurgents a little bit more effectively.
But at some point we are going to have to reduce those troop numbers, because troops wear out. What happens then? Back to the situation we were in when the surge began.
The Surge has FAILED. It was a PR stunt, and you fell for it. - YodaJones, on 07/19/2008, -2/+4*****.com domain still available.
- Apocrypha, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1These kinds of sound bites should be played over and over and over and over on the airwaves. Let the rethuglicans know that the Dems can give as good as they take.
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -1/+2So instead of attacking the terrorist base of operation we attack where the terrorist came from what if the terrorist came from Pakistan, Iran, and Jordan should we attack them.
- gadgetlust, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1Seriously. The rest of the world is hoping y'all go vigilante.
- allan17, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1Hitler’s mistake was declaring war on two superpowers. Not fighting two wars on two fronts. If he had taken on Poland and France at the same time (two fronts) he still would have occupied them easily.
- russ3, on 07/18/2008, -5/+6In other news we have no quotes from barack obama in 2003, because he did not matter then, but if we did they would also show he cannot predict the future.
This is good!! VOTE NO for presidents with superpowers! - commernie, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1As if "The United States" was something more than a mere concept. He "hates" the United States. WTF does that even mean? Of course, you were brought up to think "The United States of America" was some sort of god to be worshiped. All Americans are. I guess I just though people grew out of that ***** eventually. That mindless nationalism. It's sickening...
- bjornski, on 07/19/2008, -1/+2Yup. And no matter how many fronts it takes or how much money it costs, George is gonna push for his territory card.
He won't get it. But he'll go for broke trying. - NelsonR, on 07/18/2008, -1/+2McCain is a jester and wrong for America with his latest ad decrying, "The surge is working in Iraq".
When this old fool can walk in Baghdad without a flax jacket as another American THEN say the surge is working. The Surge isn't working, never will, can't work yet Republican fools like McCain and an illiterate non thinking Americans will have us stay while, "THE SURGE IS WORKING". Are all the worlds children fools like most in America who think IRAQI JOHN is the future? How quaint the typical follower without using common sense is within the world.
The Iraq war is wrong, it's aggression unleashed yet many here in the states think we are the pious of the world. Satan has a special place for Bush and Cheney, are you one? - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -4/+5ChicoMarxist does it again. Chico, the Taliban would not give up or force out the Al Qeada so the United States had to go in and unseat them. End of story.
- inactive, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1But we didn't attack the house the criminals were in. We bombed the entire neighborhood into rubble and murdered people who lived across town.
We attacked and killed people all over that nation because someone somewhere committed a crime. We are wrong. - sodade, on 07/18/2008, -4/+4"And not just because this argument assumes that the world's one superpower, which spends more on defense every year than the rest of the world combined, does not have the capacity to fight an insurgency in Iraq as well as in Afghanistan"
FAIL - it is quite obvious that we have no ability to control invaded countries. Usually, a successful invader is some aggressive force that beats the population into terror and submission at the butt of a gun. In other words, if you're not going to act like some neonazi war machine, don't ***** go invading other countries.
I will say that the article does make a good argument for focusing on Iraq from a purely pragmatic view, but we lost the moral authority do slip in pragmatic acts.
p.s. "Krauthammer??!!" That would have been a great name for a german 80's thrash metal band. - Jamihabs, on 07/19/2008, -1/+1Okay, here is something from the Weekly Standard I think you will enjoy...I know I did.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/0 ... - bjornski, on 07/18/2008, -4/+4It's easy to defeat an army that's fighting on 3-4 fronts.
Christ, even 12-year old Risk players know this. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -3/+3Chico, with such negativity against the United States and the people of the United States I have to ask, what in Gods name did the United States ever do to you and your family? Do you have some legitimate gripe that we have not yet addressed with regard to you or your loved ones? Is there some website you should be building so we can go and see what it is that offended you? Every day it is another attack against the United States and somehow you must have been offended....or you are ***** crazy. Which is it?
- sodade, on 07/18/2008, -5/+5The reality is that the US military is not capable of ground control against a native insurgency - the only thing our massive military spending has bought us is the ability to make parking lots.
- kencurran, on 07/19/2008, -1/+1McCain cannot win this election. Sometime in the next 4 months a few stories like this will actually make it to a broadcast and he will take at least a pinch of a hit compared to the slams against Obama.
- flailking, on 07/18/2008, -4/+4Geez...mabye he's got a touch of the Alzheimers with all this remembering, so this current digg should help...
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Alzheimer_s_Drug_ ... - deadbaby, on 07/18/2008, -2/+1Ok well by that logic Hitler was around in the 30's so clearly his experience makes Zombie Hitler the clear best choice for President.
- ppineda, on 07/19/2008, -3/+1Whatever people want to say about John McCain, he was right about the surge in Iraq. When everyone wouldn't touch the topic because it was radioactive. He did what he knew was right. And for any fool who thinks the surge is not working in Iraq, just look at the death toll numbers. A LOT less people are dying over there. So I might just trust McCain over a bunch of biased people who would hate McCain even if he solved the world's energy crisis.
- artofficial, on 07/18/2008, -3/+1Very true.
I call it the "Rightous in-digg-nation."
I know, I know... it's clever. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -10/+7pff another platform for partisan speeches with little content. typical political Digg article. Brought to you by the ever biased thinkprogress.org. Coming soon: More trash from the huffington post.
- saphyrre, on 07/18/2008, -7/+4
Not another anti-McCain article!!! i am starting to get sick of digg being used for this kind of manipulation. Just count how many articles are on digg right now anti-Obama and anti-McCain!!
Ridiculous... and i don't ever plan on voting for either. - inactive, on 07/18/2008, -8/+4Afghanistan didn't attack the USA. It doesn't matter if the criminals who did passed through there.
- inactive, on 07/18/2008, -8/+3Clarify my thoughts. Explain how the nation of Afghanistan attacked the USA.
- bunit03057, on 07/18/2008, -10/+3The entire nation turned to focus on Iraq because it had just begun. Plus, he never said we do not need to take it seriously, thoughlessprogress incorrectly inferred that with their muddle headed thinking. In fact the gist of what he said was, as long as current progress continues we will succeed, kind of obvious if you think about it.
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