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- burchie2, on 06/20/2008, -15/+131It's sounds to me like he meant he didn't realize how much he appreciates, and loves the liberties of being an American citizen until he had to spend years in a horrible situation in a pretty ***** place. I don't care what Michelle Obama said, but what's wrong with what McCain said?
- workfaster, on 06/20/2008, -49/+134Using the GOP attack mode, McCain's comments show that he didn't love America until he was at least 31... because he was born in 1936 and shot down in 1967. So what were McCain's feelings for America prior to 1967? Is he a communist? A facist? Why did he hate America? Does he still hate America...?
- buildbyflying, on 06/20/2008, -15/+92I'm no McCain supporter but this is bs. The man simply stated something most of us can relate to. Now only if Stupid America (it's copy-protected, hands off) could see that most of the turd pie the media is baking smells roughly the same.
- inactive, on 06/20/2008, -3/+48You don't know what you got till it's gone
- Panzwhore, on 06/20/2008, -22/+66Wow its like saying i love America but in a way that digg can post a useless article about! WOW!
- greatgran1, on 06/20/2008, -34/+72Should we analyze the difference between,"first time really being proud",and "didn't really love? If reporters decide they want to have some fun with what John says on the campaign trail and in the Townhalls,he is going to be exposed big time.He was never a fast learner when he was young.As for begging for the townhall meets with Barack,he should be careful of getting that wish,my friends.
- masterm1nd, on 06/20/2008, -23/+60WTF, the quote is different in the title and description. It's huffington post so I'm guessing they're both misquotes.
- jdenzer, on 06/20/2008, -10/+40That is the whole point surrounding the Michelle Obama comment. Just as it is ridiculous to paint McCain as unpatriotic for his comment, it is unfair to make Michelle Obama out as unpatriotic.
- Jade1, on 06/20/2008, -44/+73So THAT explains why he doesn't wear a flag pin! He hates America too much to wear a flag pin. I get it now.
- vroom101, on 06/20/2008, -6/+30If 50% of adult U.S. citizens who have never lived outside the U.S. of A. spent just one week living in a country torn to shreds by corruption and poverty and war -- a country where abundance of food & water and political freedom and personal liberties is only a dream, they would upon there return to the U.S. of A. loudly exclaim "I Didn't Love America Until . . .".
- inactive, on 06/20/2008, -7/+30Michelle didn't even say that. She said for the first time she was REALLY proud of her country. Scum News decided to edit out that word for their own agenda.
- corr, on 06/20/2008, -21/+42I don't think "didn't really love" equates to hate...
Leave it to you guys to be ridiculous about it though. - heysuburbia, on 06/20/2008, -5/+26You guys are both missing the point.
Michelle Obama's comment in context was that she has never been MORE proud of her country then right now due to the fact that people are willing to break the mold and change the way political processes are done.
If she said that, would there be a problem? NO, that's why Laura Bush realized this and why THIS and Reverend Wright are the only thing Talk Radio/Right Wingers have to hold on to because they know they are going to get clobbered in November unless they can smear the Obama's into the ground. - greaseddeafguy, on 06/20/2008, -15/+36that is nothing like not being proud of your country. He is obviously saying that being held in such hostile conditions, made him understand the freedoms of America. Just another effort by the lowest rated cable news network to help Obama.
- someguyouknow, on 06/20/2008, -7/+26I don't think the point is that there was something wrong with what McCain said. Its that if Barack or Michelle Obama had said the same thing in the same context, the right would be blasting them and trying to paint them as un-american. They showed the clip on Dan Abrams last night.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kqqbcv1FJHY - Gamer2k4, on 06/20/2008, -11/+28Excellent point. I'm sure most of us don't realize how special and important America is, since we haven't been exposed to countries that don't have all the freedoms and, let's face it, the conveniences that we take for granted.
There's a huge difference between being ashamed of being American and simply being ignorant of what a blessing it truly is. - an0nymous, on 06/20/2008, -9/+26If McCain really loved America he would speakout against the telecom immunity bill going through today.
http://digg.com/politics/George_Bush_s_Latest_Powe ...
Of course, that kind of raises the question: where is Obama? - Sairynn, on 06/20/2008, -5/+20I think the point here is the hypocrisy of blasting Obama's wife for a similar comment. No one with a brain (i.e. outside Stupid America, as you said) actually thinks that their respective comments show that McCain and Mrs. Obama are anti-American.
- archiesteel, on 06/20/2008, -1/+15Why do you feel the need to lie to support your point? Michelle never said she was "ashamed" of her country. The absence of pride doesn't equal the presence of shame, just as the absence of love (in McCain's case) doesn't equal the presence of hate.
Emotions are not boolean operators. That you would try to condemn Michelle Obama for this while giving McCain a free pass simply highlights your own bias. - insomniac8400, on 06/20/2008, -7/+20But that is how the GOP is using Michelle Obama's quote. So this is more than fair and almost required.
- rebotfc, on 06/20/2008, -3/+16That was a great speech and all the more poignant considering how everything turned out. It's a shame tho that most diggers won't read it as it's tl;dr.
- Nyck, on 06/20/2008, -6/+18This is such a retarded statement to try and pile on. Guess what a lot of people don't know they love something until its taken away from them.
Try hugging your parents and tell them how you feel. You might not realize how much you loved them till they are taken away from you. - ProjectGSX, on 06/20/2008, -1/+12Exactly. McCains comments ARENT a problem. And neither are Michelles. Its a non-issue on both sides.
- fani, on 06/20/2008, -6/+17Is this what this election is about ? Flag pins, hand over heart, first-time proud, didn't love until prisoner.
How do all these solve today's problems of energy crisis, inflation, slowing economy, war on terrorism, better future outlook ?
I for one don't give a ***** about these things. This is ***** to lift up sagging ratings by creating unnecessary sensationalism. - GreatSunJester, on 06/20/2008, -1/+11Quick google search for "michelle obama proud video" yields for me the clip. You are quite correct, she did say really proud. Taking her full quote in context (something that both ideologies skip with regularity), her words were not bad or poorly chosen at all.
- exomni, on 06/20/2008, -3/+12There's nothing wrong with what McCain said. The reason why we're posting it is because it's of the same sentiment as what Michelle Obama said, but while Michelle is immediately jumped on and torn apart, McCain has been given a free pass on this all this time.
Neither comment should be offensive to anyone, but if you're going to play the presidential candidates WIFE says, you sure as hell better play what the other presidential candidate HIMSELF says. - dxgg, on 06/20/2008, -5/+13I've done a fair bit of traveling, and I've yet to meet a culture outside of the US who talks about "being proud" of your country and being patriotic, like it's a kind of religion. Americans talk about their country like they're talking about their favorite football team. Do I really have to "love America" in order to appreciate my life and be a good person?
How about we focus on the real issues during this election, rather than judging a pissing contest on who has more touchy-feelies about the country? - azurathus, on 06/20/2008, -8/+15Patriotism sucks. This whole case is ridiculous, and oh so American. Focus on the goddamn stuff that matters, not who loves America the most...
- TheSwashbuckler, on 06/20/2008, -2/+9It's pretty damned easy. Michelle Obama was saying the same thing as McCain, just a little less artfully.
- skizzbot, on 06/20/2008, -3/+10Seconded. While I support Obama, this smear-campaign that's been launched via Digg is getting way old.
- SpartanErik, on 06/20/2008, -11/+18Buried for taking things out of context.
- jdenzer, on 06/20/2008, -5/+12It is not 'sinking to their level', it is illustrating the absurdity of the right smear campaign about Michelle Obama's comment. Of course the left doesn't think McCain's comments make him unpatriotic.
- pintomp3, on 06/20/2008, -9/+16since he loves america now, maybe he can stop sending americans to die for oil.
- Robjayne, on 06/20/2008, -0/+6Whay idiots would digg that speach down ? So many ignorant people.
- kreneskyp, on 06/20/2008, -0/+6just because the delivery was poor doesn't change her point. The people in the media who criticized her knew what she meant but were just looking for a damaging story.
- johnj21, on 06/20/2008, -12/+18This is so stupid, let's compare the two comments:
Obama says a black guy running for president made her proud of her country
McCain says that getting the ***** beat out of you for 5 years in a communist country made him proud of his country
Yeah those mean about the same thing. - snagglefoof, on 06/20/2008, -0/+6Exactly. People who are supporting Obama need to remember that these topics are exactly what he doesn't want us to focus on.
- theaceoffire, on 06/20/2008, -1/+7I hope voting against it.
He is for network neutrality, so he has some idea of why technology and freedom of speech online are important... lets hope he stands against this bill as well. - Gamer2k4, on 06/20/2008, -0/+6Well, at least he cited his source:
"I've got more to say, but Senator Byrd said it all better on the floor of the Senate on March 19, 2003:" - exomni, on 06/20/2008, -2/+8Dude, are people seriously digging this comment down? It's sarcasm, and good sarcasm, not obvious ***** sarcasm, but subtle satire.
Dugg up. - inactive, on 06/20/2008, -1/+6Not for nothing, but it's being launched by the classless piece of trash that is Huff Post, and being furthered by Digg.
- dafragsta, on 06/20/2008, -5/+10Twist and spin. Twist and spin. The point is that it's not unpatriotic to say you have grievances with America or that you aren't proud of America right now. I'm damn proud that this country fought for it's independence from the same people it NEEDS to fight for it's independence right now. Goodbye King George, hello BIlderberg.
The point is that Republicans and neo-cons alike went after Michelle Obama for saying she was proud to be an American for the first time in her adult life. I understand what she means completely. They pump a lot of rhetorical patriotic ***** into your head in school and very few people question whether this is brainwashing. The smart ones take a look around and notice the America in the textbooks is as different from the real America as the McDonald's hamburgers are from their depiction on the menu board. Anyone who can't see that is blinded by "patriotism" and is in fact causing the REAL patriots who gave EVERYTHING to roll over in their graves.
***** your flag. Make it mean something again. - archiesteel, on 06/20/2008, -1/+6"There aren't really levels of pride as with love."
Ridiculous. Both Pride and Love are emotions that can be of varying intensities. As you say yourself, you can be "a little proud". Just because there's no word to specifically describe that feeling doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Also, it's disingenuous to say that the only reason Michelle Obama was really proud is that *she* was getting something. In case you haven't noticed, Obama is (partially) black. The pride Michelle felt came from seeing a black candidate get this far in the nomination process. It was pride that her country had come to the point where the color of one's skin no longer meant that one was limited in running for the Presidency.
Basically, you're arguing semantics here. The reality is that this is a non-issue, both in the case of McCain and Michelle Obama. Obama supporters will drop this whole thing as soon as Republicans do the same; otherwise, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say... - pintomp3, on 06/20/2008, -5/+10like habeas corpus?
- inactive, on 06/20/2008, -3/+8Amd I've traveled to the middle east, Europe, south America, and a few other places.
After doing so and seeing what real torture, real fear of government is, real poverty, real problems....
This is when I realized I really loved and missed America... much more so than any "foot ball team". - RHMac, on 06/20/2008, -2/+7Here's a fun idea: Instead of fiercely debating who hates America more and which news outlets cover it, let's focus on who is ACTUALLY the better candidate. You know, the one with the best plans for education, the economy, and ending the war.
Oh *****.
It's still Obama.
FTW. - TheLastProphet, on 06/20/2008, -4/+8Being a POW doesn't automatically mean you're a hero.
Does a hero make a bunch of propaganda tapes for the enemy?
Does a hero get a nickname of "songbird" McCain?
When hero's get captured do shot downs increase 60%? - 1gunners4, on 06/20/2008, -7/+11The situations are entirely different; Michelle Obama simply didn't explain her meaning very well and came across poorly, whereas McCain is doing nothing more than expressing a "You don't know what you got till it's gone" sentiment.
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