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- lordcrimmeh, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4It doesn't matter whether they have education/training. Equal pay is equal pay. I understand if said woman has had less training than said man, and thus receives less pay, but it would/should be the same vice-versa.
Two people with the same qualifications, the same performance, and the same tenure should be paid the same amount. Period. Gender is a non-issue. - inactive, on 07/11/2008, -2/+6McCain previously stated that these women need "to get an education and training."
- N3tw0rk, on 07/11/2008, -1/+4The Ledbetter Fair Pay Act is named for Lilly Ledbetter, a supervisor at the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s plant in Gadsden, Ala., who sued for pay discrimination just before retiring after a 19-year career there. By the time she retired, Ledbetter made $6,500 less than the lowest-paid male supervisor and claimed earlier decisions by supervisors kept her from making more. She was doing the exact same job as her male counterparts and received numerous performance-based awards.
There are countless other stories like this across the country. Anybody who thinks pay discrimination isn't real, simply hasn't paid enough attention. - spookyttws, on 07/12/2008, -1/+3Of course he does. John McCain was a stand up, very respectable guy some 7-10 years ago. But as it happens, he became the right wing's bitch. He was a pretty capable AZ senator and very willing to reach across the aisle, a few years back. I even joked I'd love to see a Hillary (or) Obama vs McCain run just a few years back. Sadly, Hillary changed a lot, Obama also changed but not so much that I'd turn my back, but McCain became a different person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he 'flip flopped" but the real sad thing is he was a pretty good guy and senator, and now he just comes off as George Bush +20 years. That's the real shame.
- Leetamus, on 07/11/2008, -2/+4You just...don't get it, do you?
- burchie2, on 07/12/2008, -1/+3this has to be one of the silliest headlines. Give me a f*cking break. Of course he supports equal wages for women. 99% of americans support equal wages for women. Women simply don't make as much. For a million reasons...more often than not, women are the ones who get stuck taking care of kids when relationships go sour...that might play a small role...there are many more reasons...There is really no one to point the finger at. McCain just may not support AFFIRMATIVE ACTION for women. i.e. forcing companies to pay more to women workers to make up for discrepancies.
Should we hand Hillary Clinton a spot in the white house because there has never been a female president? - mrpither, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2http://digg.com/politics/Obama_Pays_Female_Staff_L ...
- iMattK, on 07/11/2008, -1/+2Absolutely. I know of few moms who want to hit the road half the year in pursuit of sales, these factors are never considered.
- Themustanger, on 07/11/2008, -1/+2Well said sir well said.
- sanskover, on 07/11/2008, -5/+6Same pay for the same job with the same qualifications should be the standard. Unfortunately, this debate sometimes gets muddy. Sometimes you see the statistic that women, on average, earn less than men. Some of this is due to their pursuing lower-wage fields.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+2So you KNOW you can trust the sources. That's what's great about Thinkprogress (in stark contrast to rightard toilets like LGF with their anonymous "sources" and unattributed claims) is that video is provided and all the information is linked so you can just read it for yourself and don't have to take ANYONE'S word for it. Look at all the links in that article that go back and verify every bit of info.
Oh burchie, it's cute that you like to pretend this hasn't been happening. Equal pay for the same job isn't affirmative action, *****. I'm guessing you're a Republican if you are trying to spin it that way. - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+2Good god, moron!
Yeah, they are just making it all up. Go back to sleep. - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+2I remember respecting McCain back in 2000 until the GOP ***** all over him, hit him with nasty trick after nasty trick, and he still crawled back afterwards to shill for Bush.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+1You don't have to lie to make a point, you know.
You respecting McCain? That's ***** laughable at best. - burchie2, on 07/12/2008, -1/+1...think progress guys.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+1FAIL.
Are you serious? Do you think those studies compare random professions and see who makes more?
They compare the wages for both in the SAME job, and from that they determine pay inequalities.
It has nothing to do with what fields they pursue, the wages are compared within the same field, otherwise the study would make no sense at all.
Geez, think about it a little bit.
What, you think they just add up the total wages by all men and women, and then divide by the number of people?
You two who chimed in fail also. - analogkid01, on 07/11/2008, -4/+3What bothers me about the "equal pay" rant (usually from feminists) is that little proof beyond the initial statement is ever given. *Who* is getting paid less for doing the same work as her male counterpart? What's her name? What company does she work for? What proof do we have of the wage discrepancy? What does the CEO have to say about this individual's pay discrepancy?
Merely regurgitating this "fact" doesn't change anything for anyone. We need to get more granular at this point.
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