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- 4321234, on 05/24/2009, -3/+191Wow! I didn't expect the spanish inquisition.
- novenator, on 05/24/2009, -3/+131NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!!
- novenator, on 05/24/2009, -13/+126Cheney and the neocons just don't get it. They are so delusional in their world view that they STILL think there were WMDs in Iraq, tax cuts for the richest Americans stimulate the economy, and torture isn't a big deal.
- OrangeBob, on 05/24/2009, -8/+69Why on earth would you think it would save lives? Are you that stupid? Do you think that 24 is a reality show?
If most people in the US do believe this (which I'm sure is not true), that still doesn't help your case at all. - inactive, on 05/25/2009, -4/+55Get it right - it's "enhanced interrogation". Strapping someone to a board and pouring water up their nose till they're in a panic that they're going to drown is "enhanced interrogation".
Maybe Cheyney should go on an "enhanced vacation" to a resort with iron bars and barbed wire fences. - InetRoadkill, on 05/25/2009, -7/+57The idea that 71% of Americans support torture is really sad. That speaks volumes about what we've become.
I noticed that Pelosi was strangely quiet about human rights during her visit to China. It's hard to complain about human rights violations by other nations when you're one of the worst offenders.
It's going to be interesting to see our reaction to videos of one of our soldiers or citizens being tortured using the same methods we're currently endorsing. The look in the mirror is not going to be flattering. - rcguy69, on 05/25/2009, -7/+54The Spanish Inquisition did not sodomize children in front of their parents. Cheny has one-downed the Spanish Inquisition and set a new low for humanity in terms of government sanctioned torture. History will take note.
- Snoosy, on 05/25/2009, -5/+39Show me proof that it saves lives and we'll have a discussion about if it's warranted or not.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/25/2009, -4/+38"IT WAS 3 GUYS !!! THEY ONLY WATERBOARDED 3 KNOWN TERRORISTS !!!
That's not a justification, that's an admission of guilt.
Waterboarding is torture.
Torture is illegal.
Torture is immoral.
Torture is ineffective. - bugwayji, on 05/25/2009, -4/+38 Thank you for backing up the previous comment that neocons are still delusional. How did all the tax cuts Bush gave the rich help, oh a major economic crisis, yah it worked alright. When will you wake up to reality?
- JoeMondo, on 05/25/2009, -3/+34The same Cheney who said there were WMDs in Iraq?
No credibility. - marx2k, on 05/25/2009, -4/+35Though there are many differences between WWII-era German Nazis and current day Americans, one can also draw many parallels and begin to see the group-think mindset and acceptance of extreme human rights violations in the name of 'the greater good'. Ultranationalism disguised as patriotism, extreme xenophobia, open and accepted intolerance to other religions, blind obedience to any leader that promises economic turnaround, being singled out as unpatriotic or worse if you question the game plan, acceptance of torture as a war-time tool, extreme polarity in all political processes, etc. And while one may argue that not all Americans are not like that, I have to counter with the fact that not all German citizens were like that either. But WWII-era Germany isn't famous for the minority of individuals that were able to think for themselves. I sincerely hope that in 50 to 60 years, turn of the century America isn't sharing the spotlight with WWII-era Germans.
- apackofmonkeys, on 05/25/2009, -0/+31Sorry OP, but if you can't spell "Vader" correctly, you're not allowed to use it as an insult.
- DangerCollie, on 05/25/2009, -6/+33If you're the face of conservatism in America, then I'd take the company of hippies over you, and anyone like you, any day.
This country would be a better place without you. - JoeMondo, on 05/25/2009, -3/+29The last 8 years proved tax cuts for the rich are a poor economy stimulator.
Jobs don't come from investments as much as they do from purchases. - sbcea, on 05/25/2009, -1/+24Get the comfy chair!
- throop77, on 05/25/2009, -3/+26Poor people invest nearly 100% of their income into the economy by spending. Spending accounts for 70% of the US economy. About 40 million Americans live below the poverty line.
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -11/+33According to a recent Pew Research Poll, 71% of Americans believe that torture may be justified.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/04/24/Poll-US-spl ... - inactive, on 05/25/2009, -3/+24I have never seen a poor person outsource a workforce to India either.
Outsourcing FTW! (I guess that it was your point?) - Moz34, on 05/25/2009, -6/+26Perhaps your perspective of colleges would be different if you had gone to a good one yourself. Then maybe you could have put together a cogent argument.
The greed of rich people has done more damage that all terrorism and crime combined. They're the ones putting people out of job and making everyone poor. - MadN, on 05/25/2009, -5/+25The first gulf war, we ran out of space for POWs quickly, even civilians were claiming to be in Saddam's army to surrender and be fed, housed, cleaned and treated by our medics; they trusted us.
Now, they blow themselves up before they will surrender, I cannot really blame them either; I would not want to be raped as a POW.
How does this mistrust "Save American lives", or do our soldiers lives not count to you? - banderwocky, on 05/25/2009, -1/+21John's about to get all mavericky up in this bitch!
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -2/+22Gee, thanks for clearing that up. You enhanced retard.
- adml_shake, on 05/25/2009, -4/+23It's just sad that there are still so many Americans that swallow this ***** with out even questioning it. Whatever comes out the mouth of anyone from the Bush administration, Faux News, and Rush's over used pie hole must be the absolute truth.
- beautifulady, on 05/25/2009, -0/+19My understanding is that the proof actually goes in the other direction. A person being tortured will confess to anything just to make the torture stop.
CIA operatives have themselves attested to this, and to the inefficacy of torture. - DaffyDuck, on 05/25/2009, -1/+19Giving tax cuts to the rich does not increase demand for the products they are selling. They don't hire people just because they have more money, they hire people due to increased demand for their products.
- SpinningHead, on 05/25/2009, -2/+19"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering
- DaffyDuck, on 05/25/2009, -2/+19"Soufan was a lead FBI interrogator of Abu Zubaydah, one of the first major al-Qaida figures to be captured after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The initial interrogation of Zubaydah, using the bureau's traditional, rapport-building techniques, yielded valuable intelligence, including the role of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed as the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, he said.
Then-CIA Director George Tenet congratulated the interrogators — until he learned they were from the FBI, not the CIA, Soufan said. A team from the CIA's Counterterrorism Center that included a government contractor quickly replaced him and his colleagues. They introduced harsh interrogation techniques, and Zubaydah's cooperation stopped, Soufan said."
http://www.twincities.com/national/ci_12364404?ncl ... - keganfleming, on 05/25/2009, -4/+20Sympathetic to homosexuality in that he's against it.
And I don't think it's considered a "bad rap" when it's justified. - s0krat3z, on 05/25/2009, -1/+17*pour*
Why the ***** would anyone want to see what it's like? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If it's something you can do with your friends for *****-n-giggles, what the ***** purpose does it have in interrogation. Ya'll are some sick twisted *****. - m3arvk, on 05/25/2009, -2/+16I think it's pretty well accepted that "trickle down" economics has problems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply-side_economics ... - bal00, on 05/25/2009, -3/+17In other news, 29% of Americans understand the rule of law.
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -4/+18Yeah. "If" it does.
It doesn't.
As such, the majority of Americans aren't for it. - inactive, on 05/25/2009, -3/+17There are so many studies showing that any group of people are subject to group think, including Americans. It wasn't hard to do, just make people rabidly fearful of some "unknown" enemy. In reality, you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning, or run over by a runaway pig than being killed by a terrorist. It's ridiculous. You can thank the republicans for that.
- h8machine, on 05/25/2009, -1/+14I'm not sure how you managed to bring homosexuality into this debate but...
Cheny himself may be sympathetic to the issues surrounding the gay community but ultimately he was Bush’s vice-president. He aided a man who was staunchly against gay rights. Bush’s reelection in 2004 was significantly aided by ballot initiatives in swing states that targeted the gay community. It is important to mention that in none of these states had gay marriage been legal. So, Cheney, had been part of a very cynical political machine that played on people’s fears and discomforts in a way that targeted a minority group. This is why the gay community has little affection for Cheney.
As for Islam... well your comment is just straight up ignorant. Do you understand the threat of Christianity or Judaism to the free world and want to stop it? It is not the religion itself, it is the small minority that try and pervert and hijack a religion to fit their extreme political views. This is not a problem inclusive of Islam and I'd make the argument that the Bush administration is just as guilty in using western religions to further their political ambitions. - oriondr, on 05/25/2009, -2/+15Lol, of COURSE Cheney know's waterboarding torture. Everybody that supports it does. Cheney won't admit it because then he would be admitting to breaking the law. He (they) just thinks that torture is perfectly justified when it comes to perceived national security threats.
- Dipsomaniac, on 05/25/2009, -1/+14Torture hindered intelligence acquisition:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/05/14/tortu ... - JoeMondo, on 05/25/2009, -1/+14No, Cheney cherry picked info from intel. He took what he wanted, ignored anything to the contrary.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Please. - inactive, on 05/25/2009, -2/+15Why don't the Republicans just rename torture like they are trying to rename the Democratic Party?
I mean, "Freedom Interrogations" would sound good. Or maybe "T.O.I.N" as in "Torture Only In Name"
Renaming things or giving it funny acronyms is the only solutions they have to offer to America, so I guess that their base will like it. - samsmartjr, on 05/25/2009, -4/+17Think Cheney will start going on about how McCain is no longer party of the Republican Party because of this?
- crunchdigg, on 05/25/2009, -0/+13I want to see Cheney claim that the high ranking Republicans that actually served in war and who are against torture "hate America", just like all the other times.
- dlan4327, on 05/25/2009, -2/+14Monty Python FTW.
- AmazingSteve, on 05/25/2009, -1/+13See: "Fixing the intelligence around the policy..."
- goettel, on 05/25/2009, -1/+13It's "dumbass", dumbass. And college is harder to grasp than that, even.
- beautifulady, on 05/25/2009, -3/+15So why not feature waterboarding at your next company picnic?
- SpinningHead, on 05/25/2009, -1/+13Thats why they were the only administration to set up a separate office (Office of Special Plans) to cherry pick information from the intelligence community.
- jaxcs, on 05/25/2009, -5/+16First it isn't torture, now, it is torture, but it saves lives. The former is and always has been a lie, the second is nuanced, requires insight and reasonable people can disagree on the outcome. So, of course, it is the first that is advanced to the American people.
If Bush had come forward when it was first revealed that waterboarding had taken place, that it was necessary to protect the country, I might have brought the whole line about protecting American lives but now it's just CYA. - Roland1232, on 05/25/2009, -4/+15Dude, you're not making us look good...
Unless that was some double-reversal meta-humor, in which case, it's me. - NorrisOBE, on 05/25/2009, -2/+12I didn't expect that.
- Moz34, on 05/25/2009, -5/+15They're not delusional at all.
It just seems that way because their words and actions don't match the agenda they're supposed to have, but the agenda they actually have. -
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