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- eastwood24, on 04/17/2009, -5/+201Well that would be the first time religion was responsible for killing anything.
/s - JumpingJack79, on 04/17/2009, -7/+101Schmidt made a couple of good points. Republicans definitely NEED to become more reasonable. Why? Because they are the party of self-interest. And right now becoming more reasonable would serve their self-interest the most.
- inactive, on 04/17/2009, -2/+88Well, this is very interesting. Schmidt basically said that if the Republicans continue down the path of religiosity, it's going to doom the party. I say it's already too late and a seismic shift is already well underway. Moderate Republican politicians are going to either change parties or become independents, much like many republican voters did during the primaries and general election.
- Echota, on 04/17/2009, -5/+84Schmidt is absolutely correct on this one.
And people like Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal isn't going to help them to get away from it either. - Onetrack, on 04/18/2009, -3/+69Science makes the plane fly - Religion makes the plane fly into buildings....
- Pyehole, on 04/18/2009, -3/+60My Dad was a lifelong Republican, but back in the Clinton years, when he had become a Clinton Republican he told me that he would never again vote for the Republicans as long as they were beholden to the religious right. If he were still alive today he'd be even angrier than I am about what the American Taliban has done to this country.
- Anomaly100, on 04/17/2009, -4/+59I agree that the Repubs should be more like this because it's exactly what America is:
"It ought to be a coalition of people under a big tent."
They seem to think they make the rules in this vast country we live in while ignoring all other religions, races and parties. They have become the anti Americans. Isn't that what they tried to call us? - freedomjoe, on 04/17/2009, -2/+54the way they co-opted "patriotism" and turned it into a bumper sticker and then threw that in OUR faces as if we were the un-american people still makes me sick.
How ***** dare they, when everything they stand for is an affront to democracy! - snafflepaffle, on 04/18/2009, -5/+55Next guy to publicly apologize? You know Rush is going to be all over this one.
Steve Schmidt: "I'm sorry I suggested the GOP should be more open minded. It is obviously against the principles of the party." - PhillyMJS, on 04/18/2009, -4/+47The GOP pandered for years to the religious nuts, but now the ultra-conservative-religious-nut base that they have to suck up to is turning off the moderates who provide the votes they need to win elections. Simply put, their once-cherished strategy has come back to bite them in the ass.
They are reaping what they sowed. How biblical.
We can only hope they are too stupid and stubborn to change their tactics, and keep trying to incite moral panics to get the bible-thumpers into the voting booths. - nick01584, on 04/18/2009, -1/+44crickets
- 2Six119, on 09/10/2009, -8/+50Religion didn't kill the GOP, The GOP killed the GOP
- ap0616, on 04/17/2009, -0/+40Amen!
- robbiedo, on 04/18/2009, -1/+39I grew up in a Jewish household, and we got to read one half the Bible. It was largely a mean nasty affair with lots of smoting. When I was a teenager, I was curious to read the other half of the Bible, and a found a much more life affirming book. By the time, I got to college, I learned some history of the Roman Empire, and learned that the fundamental humanist nature of the Christian movement was a major cause in the fall of the inhumane basis of Roman rule.
So after the "Born Again" movement of American Christianity in the late 1970's, what the heck happened to you people? Did you forget to read the 2nd half, and decide to focus on the smoting first half. I just don't get all the hate and nastiness? - RobbieF, on 04/18/2009, -3/+38Tiny bit OT, but I was madly bored today and was listening to CSPAN radio. Palin was on, jabbering on about "god country", her home state. Seemed like every other word out of her pie hole was "god" this and "creator" that.
How can she get away with doing that? Isn't she representing a government? How is it she is allowed to spew off crap about her religion to everyone, while in that official capacity?
I just don't get it. - benthere16, on 04/18/2009, -4/+39As a devout Catholic I must say, if they don't want religion (at let's not kid ourselves, it's not 'religion', it's A religion, Christianity) all the better. I voted 3rd party because of the Republicans insane torture policy, hate of illegal immigrants, and expansion of executive powers. I may never be in the majority, but Christians thinking republicans care what we really think are deluding themselves. I would love to see the Republican party without conservative Christians. What would they lie about their platform being? They've thrown Christians under the bus term after term and yet we return to them like a domestic abuse victim. I say all Christians should dump the Republican party, leave them to fend for themselves, and vote for a third party that actually represents your beliefs.
- ddinnell, on 04/18/2009, -10/+43Religion doesn't kill people. People with religion kill people.
- Pyros7, on 04/18/2009, -0/+32Aside from the religious right what else does the Republican party have? Fiscal responsibility? HAHAHAHA.
They had their chance and the American people who voted for them have realized that the only thing they're actually willing to fight for is the anti-gay/anti-abortion principles of the Christian right. Everything else is lies. - BrewBeau, on 04/18/2009, -1/+33Here you go. This version will suit you better:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/17/mccain- ... - GnarlyErik, on 04/17/2009, -4/+35Being identified as today's 'Party of No' surely does not help either. Those who continue to cater to the fringe elements of neoconservatism are now risking political free fall and meltdown. Just check what is happening to Sarah Palin's in her home state for a good example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/palin- ... - Nimda11, on 04/18/2009, -3/+33So they finally figured out being racist homophobic xenophobes isn't a great political strategy.
Who'd a thunk it... - CamperBob, on 04/18/2009, -3/+32It's a shame the McCain campaign didn't come to this "reasonable" attitude before picking Sarah Palin as their VP candidate.
- booksnmore4you, on 04/17/2009, -6/+34R.I.P.
- Anomaly100, on 04/17/2009, -3/+29It's f-ed up. I have a hard time with these people, especially as a Christian. I don't think I need to follow what everyone else considers to be righteous, in order to do the right thing. My own brother sends me email with pictures of aborted babies because he knows I'm a Democrat and pro-choice. He's told me I'm unpatriotic yet he listens to Rush Windbag. McCain said himself that he would vote in a SCJ if he were pro-choice, but they ignored this because he ran his campaign under the pretext of being against abortion. And they all use religion to stand behind.
Perhaps they are justifying something deeper. Maybe it's racism, because we know that it's rampant with their ilk. I don't know. They speak of seceding and how unpatriotic is THAT? They would in fact, be ignoring OUR rights. Our right to vote and democratically elect our president by Majority. Maybe it's the fact they're dying that's making them so obnoxious.
Hey, Sarah, got an extra brother? Mine's broken. I'm just kidding, but it gets old. - aerovisor, on 04/18/2009, -1/+27Yeah, but only one of them believes in separation of church and state.
- MacEnvy, on 04/18/2009, -1/+26Yep. And he doesn't shove it down anyone's throat either, unlike the GOP, which is why they will continue to lose unless the leadership gets a clue.
Schmidt is right. - Suricou, on 04/18/2009, -0/+24I think Palin sums it all up in one perfect example: Someone who got the religious voters worked into a frenzy of support, but at the expense of causing less religious voters to lose all respect for the party.
- pintomp3, on 04/18/2009, -2/+25What is religious without the people who believe in it?
- Bartboy919, on 04/18/2009, -7/+30Im sure it will, Religion kills a lot of things.
- Rivetgeek, on 04/18/2009, -1/+21nuhgunna
- Culero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+20no, The Great Cricket wars were hardly prevented the first time around
- fugazied, on 04/18/2009, -0/+20The evangelicals in the GOP make the GOP a much more authoritarian party. Anti-gay and Anti-abortion doctrines are an affront to personal liberty and the evangelicals pursue those stances with mania. This annoys the libertarians, old school conservatives (who believe in the constitution/liberty/freedom before religion and believe in separation of church and state) and of course democrats.
- BrewBeau, on 04/18/2009, -1/+20Here you go, this version will suit you better:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/17/mccain- ... - calcm, on 04/18/2009, -1/+20I am a God believing person. But the religious right makes me want to puke. They are why I left the republican party. It is a party of intimation of individual thought. If the christian religious right spent more time humbly trying to convince those around them of why they believe in God and His Son there would be less abortions. In other words trying to push and shove religious beliefs down peoples throats through politics actually has the opposite effect on the outcome of trying to convince people that there is a God.
Exactly what has James Dobson accomplished in his quest to "focus on the family". My argument would be that he has not accomplished anything to promote the family. I believe that if James Dobson actually "focused on the family" rather than a political revolution he would have accomplished a lot more.
I hope that there will be a revolution in the republican party; a revolution to cleans itself of intimidation of individual thought.....but I seriously doubt it will occur. - Maddoktor2, on 04/18/2009, -0/+18http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/17/mccain- ...
Better? - WibWobble, on 04/18/2009, -2/+20R.I.Hell
- BrewBeau, on 04/18/2009, -2/+20Nobody's perfect. But he at least seems to be able to grasp the concept that there are such things as other religions and people who have been liberated from religion.
- ladydarkbane, on 04/18/2009, -0/+18Barry Goldwater stated in his book what it means to be a conservative . . . limiting federal government powers, more power at a local level, fiscal responsibility, etc. 1981 brought us Pac-Man, the birth of MTV, Ronald Regan, and the movement of the Christian Right. From this point on the term Republican would change and begin encompassing issues of morality. Barry Goldwater, himself a Republican, yet true to his conservatism, considered abortion to be a personal choice one not up to the Federal Government to determine. Today, Goldwater might be considered a Libertarian on governmental issues and a liberal on social issues.
As the movement grew, the term "conservative" began to take on a whole new meaning especially in the light of Christian Right social issues. More and more leaders in the Christian community became vocal and active in their political involvement. Republican radio talk show hosts moved away from the thoughtful, respectful discussion of issues, as modeled by William Buckley another conservative Republican, and moved towards criticism, demonizing, and angry attacks toward anyone or anything that threatened their beliefs. - Alexa42, on 04/18/2009, -2/+20aren't
- NorrisOBE, on 04/18/2009, -1/+19Exactly. Republicans can be religious, but they should not ever shove down their religion to the Republican party. Religious Democrats never shove their beliefs into their politics, so why should the GOP?
- freedomjoe, on 04/17/2009, -2/+20Ha, no extra brothers! Sorry! That gets tiring, though- esp from family, no matter how much you love them. Frank Schaeffer's articles on how "christianity" has been co-opted by the right and corrupted by its focus on politics have been most informative on this subject.
it breaks my heart to see religion used in this way, though this his hardly a new idea and in fact seems to have been behind many major religious movements. However, I believe in the positive power that can come from faith in something, and from bonding with people in our communities through spiritual worship -- and this is what has been besmirched by the GOP.
I have a close friend whose father watches Fox News. No one in the family can stand to be around him anymore; they literally have to dole out xanax to all the brothers and sisters before hanging out with the father now. it's tearing their family apart. How sad is that? I wonder of Rush, Glenn, et al ever have doubts about their chosen paths? many a family have been destroyed by the divisive tactics employed by these right wing hacks. - fugazied, on 04/18/2009, -1/+18The hypocrisy of organised religion is pretty obvious. As more thinking people turn away from religion, so will they turn away from the republicans and their zealotry.
- Anomaly100, on 04/18/2009, -2/+19the Jhk:
I understand. You're upset because your little Pity Party is going down. In their death throes or death gurgle, the noise appears to be an obnoxious shrill of intolerance, self righteous and reckless abandon toward any loyalty to their own country. It's embarrassing and being defensive, they've reduced you to arguing a debate that has already been won. So, yell out about high taxes that you don't pay. Tell people in comment threads how stupid they are while you have no concept of reading or writing. (apparently) isn't a good idea. It's an entire sentence defining "oxymoron." I get it. You're embarrassed and merely lashing out at two friends being social on (get this, a social network!) Digg. Damn us for getting along while your party is all about hateful rhetoric. I get it and I'm sorry your life sucks so much. I'm sorry for your embarrassment and most of all, I'm sorry you felt the need to comment simply to be hateful. - MacEnvy, on 04/18/2009, -1/+17ain't
- enantiodromia, on 04/18/2009, -0/+16Are you so backwards you don't realize that's how THE ENTIRE INTERNET works?
You may as well not use Google or Yahoo then, since they sell most of the ads you see.
Please tell me you don't think Fox News makes any money from ads sold on their front page, or for that matter, any for profit .com.
Go ahead. - sigmaman2, on 04/18/2009, -1/+16I think Schmidt's right about religiosity (if that is a word). But I think that relogiosity is a symptom of a conservative mindset that does not allow for compromise. It's that mindset where you never compromise your beliefs, you stick to your guns, and you go down fighting. The last thing people like that think is "Hey, the other guy just might be right!"
That kind of thinking always resists change. And this is a world where change is expected, even depended upon. The political meteor has already struck the Yucatan peninsula. The regular food sources for the GOP are either dead, or dying. The GOP has but two choices: die, or evolve. - calypsoschnitzl, on 04/18/2009, -2/+17Misleading title, it should say "Religion Could Kill us All".
- WasabiBomb, on 04/18/2009, -0/+15Luckily, the inauguration has no influence on policy.
- WasabiBomb, on 04/18/2009, -1/+16My understanding is that I don't CARE.
- sizzzzlerz, on 04/18/2009, -1/+15Yeah, but the real issue is does he wear a flag pin when he goes to church on those days.
What's faux news' take on this critical issue? -
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