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- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -65/+142Trolls to spam the internet? HEEELLLLLLLLOOOOO huffingtonpost.com
- Gabberwok, on 05/21/2008, -9/+71They'll never get my lucky charms...
- fancypantscz, on 05/21/2008, -9/+68I love how the these tubes are simply breaking the old paradigm of manufactured consent.
Good luck Mr. McCain...
It may take a while but I bet over time the internet we teach Americans how to think for themselves once again. - bluevillage, on 05/21/2008, -23/+71Like the story in the NYT today about Hillary reaching out to the blogosphere (in her desperate 11th hour), both are trying to manufacture a Quantity of enthusiasm and interest to match Barack's. Top-down grassroots: what an oxymoron!
- smacksaw, on 05/21/2008, -18/+63Ron Paul and Barack Obama supporters do it without needing instructions.
No one told me to post.
Though McCain supporters have mastered the art of the FW: FW: FW: FW: email to grandma. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -3/+43It doesn't really matter.
The thing with the internet is: we get to talk back.
They are used to the old media: it tells you how it is and the only people you could argue with are the other people who heard "how it is". Before the internet, the TV was an actual authority on all subjects.
So let them talk about McCain's "plan" all they want, we'll be there to destroy everything they say, point by point.
Plus it's not like it would be hard, how ***** dumb do you have to be to actually want McCain for president?
What possible point could they make? That Iraq was justified? That torture is a good thing? That the Bush tax cuts were a viable solution to help the economy?
The more people they get to defend McCain in an actual debate the less supporters they will get in the end. - kemp34, on 05/21/2008, -7/+43There is no question that folks get paid to troll.
- 4pple5auce, on 05/21/2008, -18/+52McCains only online support: http://www.aarp.org/onlinecommunity/
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -29/+62He's paying me.
Obama is a Muslim!!!!!!!! - geneikillua, on 05/21/2008, -3/+32Heaven forbid trolls for a presidential candidate spam digg. I don't know if I'd even recognize the place any more if that tragedy were to occur.
- brutalentropy, on 05/21/2008, -12/+41But but but... John McCain will put the national interest ahead of partisanship, he will work with anyone who sincerely wants to get this country moving again. If John McCain is elected President, the era of the permanent campaign will end. The era of problem solving will begin.
These are strictly my thoughts! - dn11, on 05/21/2008, -25/+54Hello? No where on Obama's website does it instruct me to read or link to Huffingtonpost, nor does he give me talking points to cut and paste. Lots of digg users read Huffington post and vise versa, that is all.
- vinnyvenus, on 05/21/2008, -28/+56http://digg.com/news/2008_us_elections/
Seriously, I, for one will welcome some Maccain spam for a change. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -7/+34So he WANTS to lose the election?
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -12/+35It's easy to spot the McCain trolls. They're the ones posing as Democrats that are going to vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.
- bicyclethief, on 05/21/2008, -1/+22I thought it was "me" lucky charms?
- queotic, on 05/21/2008, -22/+43I swear I saw one of these today on another HuffPo article. Each sentence didn't really flow into the other, almost like it was a hastily patched together checklist of Obama criticisms. I rather enjoy the trolls though. They parrot back MSM talking points and are then quickly refuted by intelligent users who provide useful links (sometimes stupid users with useless links). I've learned quite a lot reading people's responses to trolls. So McCain - thank you sir! lol
- Seldon2639, on 05/21/2008, -5/+25I'm going to disclaim this by saying I am (in fact) a Democrat, so please don't flame me for right-wing rhetoric.
The fact that his supporters are different people, with different interests, doesn't make them any less American, or any less intelligent. He may be wrong on many issues, and we should be happy to debate substantive policies with his supporters, but to argue that it's somehow corrupt for his supporters to do the same thing which many of us here on Digg have done for Ron Paul, or for Obama, seems more than a little biased
If we're talking about pure amount of support, it's difficult to argue that the McCain has less broad-based support than either of the Democrats. You can argue that his supporters are misinformed, stupid, or any other pejorative you like to apply, but that's not really worthy of us. We're the ones against an "elite" making decisions for everyone else. Yes, we've decided to support one candidate, one party, but to then decide that anyone who disagrees with us is inherently flawed lacks elegance.
So, if you disagree with McCain, or with Obama, or agree with one of them, let's see if we can't have a real debate. Not just spamming, or flaming, or trolling, but an actual explanation of why ones policies are better than the other. Not "Obama's policies are better because he wants to help people, and McCain is just like Bush", give real evidence, a GAO report on the cost-effectiveness of Obama's health-care plan, for instance. On the other side, if you're going to argue that McCain will make us safer, show us how. - puter, on 05/21/2008, -8/+26Only difference between Obama spam and McCain spam is that Obama doesn't have to pay for it.
In the end it's all just as obnoxious.
I say that despite being in favor of Obama. - oldhick, on 05/21/2008, -4/+20Do you mean on Digg??? No they couldn't. First, enthusiasm isn't required. Its numbers. Conservatives/neocons/Mccainiots don't hang out on Digg. Why would they?
- 4pple5auce, on 05/21/2008, -4/+18i think you missed the word 'trying'
- Waiting2awake, on 05/21/2008, -3/+15I think the issue is while Obama's online support seems to be organic, a movement spread from the people. McCains is from an edict. One demonstrates a change towards the power being in the hands of the citizens, the other, the power from a central position reaching outwards which is essentially status quo.
Is there anything wrong with it? Not IMO. However, the traditional politics seems to have been rejected by Americans, and this sort of shows that McCain simply hasn't realized that yet. - gabulldawg79, on 05/21/2008, -8/+20Better tell your neocon brothers their reign is over and embrace the ideals and policies of the Constitution that once made the GOP a decent party. Ron Paul offered you a solution but blind GOP loyalty is going to bring that ship down in flames in November. Maybe that will be a good thing to see the GOP completely obliterated in November so that real conservatives can rebuild the party from the ground up and get some people in office that cares about America and not greed and power.
- thal3s, on 05/21/2008, -15/+27Here's a story from DailyKos talking about how McCain is giving "points" to his followers for trolling DailyKos:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/20/212319 ...
Spoon-fed talking points eh? What, they can't remember everything from the Faux News morning shows??? - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/21/2008, -4/+16Kewl. When do we get to see the John McCain blimp.
- gypsi, on 05/21/2008, -9/+20it's sad that most of these wingnuts are doing it for free
- DangerCollie, on 05/21/2008, -2/+12This is not new and not limited to political operations. Almost every PR and advertising agency on the planet offer this type of "outreach" for a price. The big names are Microsoft in tech, oil companies in the climate change debate, banks in credit card companies, Israel, Saudi Arabia (ironic, isn't it), big pharma, the military...it's just part of the advertising game these days. You can even see the effects here on digg, anywhere public discussion takes place. Sometimes through PR and advertising, sometimes through a proxy that pretends to be some independent organization.
Come on now, this can't be news to anyone here. You guys are cynical enough to know you're being rolled....right? - vexingmodstwo, on 05/21/2008, -2/+12Will Thomas, the author of this article, needs to learn how to write and / or proofread his stuff. He's supposed to be a professional?
- reuscel, on 05/21/2008, -1/+11Be fair. There's also this:
http://www.tagsrwc.com/matlock/matlockbb/page1.htm ... - smash1081, on 05/21/2008, -10/+20I do not understand the logic of people who say "if Obama wins I'm voting for McCain" or "if Hilary wins I'm voting for McCain." I'm assuming if you like Hilary or Obama, you didn't like George W. Bush very much. Do you think you'd be getting some sort of childish revenge or proving some kind of point? McCain will be four to eight more years of Bush's failed, fairy tale policies. Not to mention the 100 years in Iraq. Or are we going to be out of there in 2013? I forget. You can vote for whomever you want. But to vote for John McCain just because you are angry that your candidate lost the democratic nomination is just plain unintelligent.
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -2/+11They're going to have a fairly hard time on digg. Even the conservatives on here don't like him.
- vinnyvenus, on 05/21/2008, -3/+12Just like average digg users doesnt listen to talk radio. Each is geared towards different demographics. Digg's average user being younger than the norm will have liberal leaning while talk radio listener being older than the norm will have conservative leaning
- dopke, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Seriously? If you think that, that just shows how naive you are. Any positive story about him would be instantly buried or ignored by the majority of diggers.
- serif69, on 05/21/2008, -2/+11No, he's supposed to be a blogger at huffingtonpost.com. I think that speaks for itself.
- mal1964, on 05/21/2008, -12/+21Good luck hiring Obama offered his people a $1000 to quit with no takers.
- bicyclethief, on 05/21/2008, -2/+11I stop reading anything after "according to FOX News..."
- Fordi, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Ahh, making ***** up. That'll convince 'em.
- WasabiBomb, on 05/21/2008, -5/+14There's a difference between spontaneous support and spam directed by the candidate... so unless you've got evidence of Obama organizing bloggers in the same manner, it's not the same situation.
I poked my head into this thread because I absolutely KNEW that someone would immediately leap onto the "b-b-but Obama...!" tack. - shutaro, on 05/21/2008, -1/+10You mean he's enlisting leprechauns, too?
- TantrooM, on 05/21/2008, -3/+12Obama supporters = Kool Aid drinkers
McCain supporters = Jesus Supporters
Typical right-wing biased reporting. - wendelgee2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8Obama supporters = express an opinion, sometimes even differing from the candidate's position.
McCain supporters = cut and paste from the McCain homepage
You don't see a difference here? - EtherGnat, on 05/21/2008, -3/+11"The ONLY reason the Arab American Senator from Illinois has managed to get this far is thanks to the libtarded, internet trolls that have been spamming their own zealous Obama Christ propaganda ever since they stole their tactics from the Ron Paul campaign."
If that was all it takes Ron Paul would be our next President. It amuses me how people (on both sides to be fair) always think they support their candidate because they're an independent thinker, and everybody else must be brainwashed. I guess the idea that people might legitimately have a different opinion is just too "out there". - dn11, on 05/21/2008, -2/+10it's just an observation that McCain feels the need to direct his supporters on how to use the internet and what to say. take from it what you will
- veeew, on 05/21/2008, -13/+21McCain is a piece of work. He reminds me of some hideously strange piece of public art in a park somewhere that the "people" paid for it, whether they wanted to or not, yet they don't really know what it is, what it stands for, and why it's even there. Sure, there's other beautiful art out there, but the city decided that this was the one. Yeah, that's McCain alright...
- randyzaia, on 05/21/2008, -2/+10The irony of seeing this on Digg, home of the Paul and Obama spammer.
- BXRWXR, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7What language are you attempting to speak?
- michaelrsa, on 05/21/2008, -5/+12Guys, what wrong with this? I suppose since I do support McCain my view might be slightly skewed, but what is the problem with McCain having people post for him? Is there something unethical about it? Doesn't Barrack have supporters who do the same thing?
- MacEnvy, on 05/21/2008, -2/+9Really? Then I guess "your book" must be written at a third-grade level. The two outreach sites aren't anything alike at all, neither in tone nor in instruction.
- Anonchrist, on 05/21/2008, -3/+9Sorry no pay check.
- dualboy24, on 05/21/2008, -1/+7Voted you up on that one. A lot of people won't understand the comment though unless they read the article earlier.
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