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- doiveo, on 02/27/2009, -3/+144It's funny because this guy is clearly an idiot.
- Dougman82, on 02/27/2009, -5/+141Ha ha ha ha ha!
- kp998, on 02/27/2009, -9/+112His career was over anyway, shot down for being stupid. Karma got him.
- inactive, on 02/27/2009, -2/+94The writing was on the wall when he tried the "what? I had NO IDEA this might be racist" excuse. Just admit you erred in bad taste. Don't make up an obviously ***** excuse. The guy just kept digging deeper and deeper.
- doiveo, on 02/27/2009, -18/+101You're from San Diego so you're probably an illegal immigrant from Mexico. Just my impression of people from San Diego.
Probably not correct but ***** sensitivity eh wetback? - spookyttws, on 02/28/2009, -1/+70There was a story in the Orange County Register today saying that someone smashed a couple of watermelon of his front porch yesterday. It made me laugh a little.
I know he's trying to save face but if he 'didn't know' the racial stereotype that blacks like watermelon, then why on earth would he find the email amusing enough to pass on? Personally, I think a watermelon patch would make for a really good Easter Egg hunt. - Newswiseguy, on 02/27/2009, -7/+69this one is a twofer - he's also insinuating there'll be no easter egg hunt cause the "PreZnit is a Muslin"
- Insightful, on 02/27/2009, -7/+62In before wingnut hyperbole:
Oh noes, Hussein/BHO/Barry/Obamanation/Messiah is censoring people from speaking their free minds. I don't know when I elected this President I signed away my First Amend right. I must bah moar guns!
Look idiots. Grose has the right to say what he wants just like we have the right to say what we want such as demanding his resignation.
I still can't believe his excuse: 1) I send it from my personal e-mail address so that's OK, 2) I only sent it to a small group of people, and 3) I have no idea why this is rascist so sorry if you are offended. - ReasonWinsOut, on 02/28/2009, -1/+47Nothing happened to the 1st Amendment. He exercised his RIGHT to express what he thought was funny, and the people, in turn, exercised their right to call him out on his xenophobic, inappropriate behavior.
- RichardCoryJD, on 02/28/2009, -3/+49This isn't about political correctness; this is just plain racism. I didn't mind the whole New York Post monkey cartoon because there was a legitimate non-racist meaning that could have been behind it ("so dumb, a monkey could do it").
But what could possibly have been the non-racist alternative explanation behind this comic? There's nothing intrinsically funny about a patch of watermelons, and there's no English idiom that could be relevant here.
It's obvious what the guy was getting at. - Dustin00, on 02/28/2009, -3/+471. I didn't understand the anger over Dairy Queen's "Moo-lates"... it had to be explained to me.
2. I don't know a lot of derogatory racial terms and I believe there are more and more people in this same situation.
3. BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BLACK/WATERMELON THING, WHY WOULD YOU THINK IT WORTH FORWARDING???
4. WHO ARE THE LOWLIFES YOU HANG OUT WITH THAT THOUGHT YOU WOULD ENJOY RECEIVING IT?
Dean Grose is a liar. - sigmaman2, on 02/28/2009, -1/+44The First Amendment's still there and in full force. He used the First Amendment when he sent the email. The problem for him was that the First Amendment protects the outrageous just as much as the outraged.
His First Amendment speech in the email was heard, and protected. Now, the First Amendment speech of his critics has been heard and protected too. - normlsparky, on 02/28/2009, -1/+40DANG MUSLINS R TAKIN OVER THE WURLD!
- apothekari, on 02/27/2009, -3/+41Tattle tale?!
WTF is wrong with you?
This isn't 4th grade and someone put a tack in the Teacher's seat.
Do you think any citizens of that town {especially black folks} have faith that this dumbass would be looking out for everyone equally after that email?
You have to have some measure of composure as a public official, you don't send Mien Kampf to Jewish folks, you don't send copies of Satanic Verses to Muslim folks,and you don't send WATERMELON jokes to black people!
This isn't the way we behave in a civilized society and if this was 15 or 20 years ago that ***** would have been run out of town on a rail!
And while I do agree that it's better to put on shoes than to carpet the world, This man was an ELECTED public official and is held to a higher standard than the neighborhood loony. - Hurricane, on 02/28/2009, -2/+33Muslin makes good sheets.
- doiveo, on 02/28/2009, -0/+29No? hmm you may wish to reread the literature on racism. Severity is different, intent is the same. The person was judged by the color of his skin and then associated with a derisive stereotype on that basis alone.
- tattertech, on 02/28/2009, -1/+28@DeathRay2K - Put it this way, as RichardCoryJD said: What's funny about a patch of watermelons? Nothing. The fact is the stereotype he was calling on is very well known to Americans - there is no alternative here.
I think there's a lot of ***** PC complaints done, but this one is pretty obvious. All that was missing was some fried chicken and corn bread. - richirwin, on 02/28/2009, -5/+32One less bigot in office.
Funny that the article doesn't mention that he's a republican.
I guess it's just assumed. - whiledo, on 03/25/2009, -0/+26Right, but would you have forwarded it as a joke if you didn't understand what the basis of humor for the joke was? It just doesn't add up.
- rand0mm0nkey, on 02/28/2009, -4/+28I guess racial bigotry is considered more off-limits than people having extra-marital sex, eh? I don't think that's a double standard. Everybody *****, or at least wants to. Not everyone hates.
- inactive, on 02/28/2009, -0/+24If he was unaware of the implications of watermelon no basis for the joke would exist and it would not have been forwarded.
- nihilville, on 02/28/2009, -0/+23There really aren't many other ways to interpret it... Without the racist angle, having a field of watermelon growing on the white house lawn is fairly meaningless. Can you suggest any reason why someone would find such an image "humorous" enough to send to your friends?
- blakbot, on 02/27/2009, -11/+33What a smart guy! He can kiss my B.L.A.K. ass on the way out da door..........
- Rixar13, on 02/28/2009, -3/+25Sound like another Ex-Republican with more movement towards their extinction. 'Smile
- asgardshill, on 02/28/2009, -2/+23The First Amendment doesn't shield you from the consequences of your actions. (Exceedingly dumb actions in this case). No jackbooted government thugs broke down this alcalde's door to prevent him from sending his racist little missive, nor did he get tossed in the hoosegow for sending it.
Its perfectly legal to be an *****. Its also perfectly legal to treat an ***** like an ***** in response. - JenniferInMO, on 02/28/2009, -3/+24'We're all spending too much time trying to be politically correct"
That IS a problem. No one should have to spend any time to be politically correct. Being "politically correct" simply means having common sense and being considerate of others. I had that down in Kindergarten. If someone is still working at it they need to get out politics. - JCPahl, on 02/28/2009, -2/+23Who doesn't like watermelons? If you don't like watermelons, there's something wrong with *you.*
- novenator, on 02/28/2009, -1/+21now there you would be wrong. Insightful has consistently stood up for what is right, regardless of party. The thing is, the GOP is usually the party pulling ***** like this.
- Hurricane, on 02/28/2009, -4/+24What a maroon.
- ReasonWinsOut, on 02/28/2009, -2/+21@RBPCP: No, I think you're wrong. People need to stop caving to bigotry, ignorance, and flagrant, unapologetic xenophobia. His views are fine for himself and his close circle, but they have no place in public policy and government.
- Nero9171, on 02/28/2009, -3/+22Its not even funny.
- Prism123, on 02/28/2009, -0/+18free speech violation would be if he was arrested or fined for forwarding the email. Free speech doesn't give you the ability to say whatever the **** you want with no consequences, just no legal consequences, you can still be fired. Say you work for a company, and you go up to the ceo and sya you are a douchbag. You have the right to say this under free speech, but it doesn't protect you from getting fired. Public officials are expected to not be racist idiots, thus if one shows that they are they should be forced to resign.
- bartpieters, on 02/28/2009, -1/+19Psst The Easter Bunny hiding eggs is a pagan fertility ritual and has nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam: it predates both. Don't want to spoil your joke though :)
- kayleeking, on 02/28/2009, -1/+19Indeed!
- Humptydank, on 02/28/2009, -2/+19Well, I personally have learned something since Obama became President -- apparently all the racial stereotypes I and everyone I know have heard in our lives were actually a giant secret!
The entire staff of the Post didn't know that African-Americans have been portrayed as monkeys, apparently a mayor didn't know that they've been associated with liking watermelons -- I had no idea that I and my small peer group were the one, delicate, surviving repository for this cultural history.
Maybe I should write a book or something, you know, for future generations. - enantiodromia, on 02/28/2009, -0/+17*****, i'll give you my mother in law's email address. as far as she is concerned, the entire Internet is just one big redneck racist circle-jerk, where you just keep forwarding the same stupid pictures over and over again.
you'd love her! - enkideridu, on 05/15/2009, -10/+26I didn't know black people liked watermelons...
I like watermelons... - duggdowncatisad, on 02/28/2009, -0/+16moo-latte
mulatto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto - JohnnyComplain, on 02/28/2009, -1/+17I'm not in the US, not American, have only briefly visited the US a couple times. Obviously, from the context of the story, the watermelon issue is racist. But as someone outside the United States reading this story, I wish it contained more context so that as a reader I would be informed about the history of the watermelon reference being racist. I understand that it must be racist, as people are saying it is, but I don't understand. As a foreigner I have no point of reference from which to understand the meaning of this story.
- chuckduck, on 02/28/2009, -2/+17I've still got to say that a delicious watermelon hunt sounds like a genius plan.
- Gloogle, on 02/28/2009, -1/+16He was a professional doing racist jokes at the job, and he also knew the consequences.
- inactive, on 02/28/2009, -3/+18I don't give two ***** about the photo, the pure naivete and clueless understanding of political and social realities of modern America disqualifies this guy from being mayor. I work in the private sector and I would not dream of passing this on. Not to mention there are lots of legitimate reasons and ways to mock Obama, blacks=watermelon love, is not one of them. I guess I do care about the photo, but more about how stupid it is then its potential to offend the pc crowd.
- freedomjoe, on 02/27/2009, -17/+32but, who is going to do the cartoon of him in a sheet and pointy hat standing next to a burning cross for easter?
and should we have someone shooting him? just for giggles? I mean, that is the right's idea of "humor", !right???
CRAP 2009 -- Party of Hate Convention - Murdats, on 02/28/2009, -0/+15@meatplow
could that be because everyone loves chicken, watermelon, money and being lazy? - TheBadWolf, on 02/28/2009, -1/+15You don't know what a subliminal message is, do you?
- Fixhotep, on 02/28/2009, -1/+15Not really. Picture.... a watermelon patch. Here ya go:
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No Easter egg hunt this year. - Alheithinn, on 02/28/2009, -1/+14An easy call - and he IS a Republican, so an accurate one too.
- whiledo, on 03/25/2009, -0/+13That would be totally true except that it isn't:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:FpYA8Rtz-RQJ:w ...
"Endorsed by Congressman Edward Royce;
Senator Tom Harmon, Supervisor James Silva,
and the OC Republican Party."
You might use the time you saved by not googling for this to google "confirmation bias." - Fixhotep, on 02/28/2009, -0/+12I'll join the side of "why did he forward it if he didn't understand it?" I think that him understanding it is far more likely than him forwarding a comic he doesn't understand at all.
On a side note, I'm surprised to see all these diggers who didn't know about this stereotype. It's one of the most popular black stereotypes alongside fried chicken. - caitymac, on 02/28/2009, -0/+12^That's a really good point. I didn't get it either, probably because I'm from Seattle and I think it's a southern stereotype (am I right?). But I wouldn't have forwarded either, cause I would have been all "what the hell is with all the watermelons?"
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