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Malik Obama confirms Obama raised as Muslim
web.israelinsider.com — Why is Obama lying about his background?
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- cajuncocoa, on 06/14/2008, -5/+12From the article: Apparently the Obamas of Kenya have been reading those scurrilous emails to which Barack likes to refer, because they have no doubt -- contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign, that the presidential candidate was raised a Moslem. They take that as a given.
- bendiggn, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2You have your facts wrong. Malik Obama has only claimed that "Barack is a Christian".
Original AP article quote from here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496
Always check your sources. The by line at this israelinsider site article lists "By Israel Insider staff". So they send interns to Kenya? I don't think so.
The article also sites a link to an article at the Jerusalem Post. This link is dead (if it ever existed).
What a bunch of hacks.
- bendiggn, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2You have your facts wrong. Malik Obama has only claimed that "Barack is a Christian".
- DYMongoose, on 06/14/2008, -6/+8Man, I don't know. The picture proves nothing... I can have my picture taken dressed in lederhosen, but that doesn't mean that I know how to speak German. I'm not defending Obama, I'm simply stating that I'm not going to believe everything I hear.
- rocketroj, on 06/14/2008, -6/+9Big Lie Obama is slowly being exposed. This big lie scandal is his own doing and now it is time to come clean. Is there anything that this politician says that we can now believe?
What does he have against Muslims anyway. His Father and Family are Muslim. Why would anyone deny their Father, Family and worldwide Muslim community with this insult. I pray Sharia has a remedy for this crime, Obama must submit to the law of his Fathers and his faith.- ozydingo, on 06/16/2008, -1/+4Please provide me a reference if I am wrong, which I admit I might be, but by my memory Obama denies that he is a Muslin, since he is in fact a Christian. By my memory Obama has not denied having attended an elementary school that was predominantly Muslim, but note that that was already after having attended a Catholic school. (Source: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp ). I have personally not found evidence of a lie, but if you have something more concrete please share it. Also note that being raised in a "predominantly Muslim" elementary school is not even the same as having ever been a Muslim--I'd toss in the personal anecdote that for close to 3 years in elementary school I went to a Christian school, and I am not a Christian, and have vast differences with some Christian values due to my own decisions and identity.
- rocketroj, on 06/14/2008, -7/+8And the devil, taking Obama up into an high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto Obama, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
And Obama answered and said unto him, For you my master I will deny my God and do whatever else you ask of me. - ronnor, on 06/14/2008, -7/+4
Just why in Barrack denying that he's a Muslim, his father was a Muslim and under Islamic Law that makes him one unless he want to be an apostate and that is VERY bad news under Shari'a Law. He should be proud to be a Moslem, its a religion of peace and tranquility they say; besides its dangerous to be an apostate. I certainly wouldn't want 1.3 billion Moslem's after me so that they could go to heaven and grab those virgins. - JCJanko, on 06/15/2008, -6/+10Does it matter that Obama has now been proven beyond ANY doubt that he was raised Muslim? No. Does it matter that he continues to lie about it? To an educated electorate, hopefully.
- kscitydude, on 06/18/2008, -1/+0"Raised Muslim". His father was out of his life at ago two, he lived with his stepfather four or five years in Indonesia before he was sent back to Hawaii by his mother to live with his mother's parents who had sometime before that moved to Hawaii from Kansas. Now his mother was not a Muslin and his grandparents were not Muslin, so where do you get that he was raised a Muslim?
- nippinawassee, on 06/15/2008, -6/+10And the beat goes on... and on and on... so far, BHMO has been caught in quite a few blatent lies - the denial of muslim connections is the most dangerous. Just remember what was said by the islamic site: the day is coming when the islamic flag will be flying over the White House and the capital of the USA... I still believe that is why negative things from CAIR, etc., are not happening regarding BHMO - all is quiet which is dangerous. TWT - time will tell...
- dionysiuspetros, on 06/15/2008, -8/+6...well, eventually, BHObama will confess that he is indeed a muslim (and he must be since that religion teaches that it is hereditary) and then ask his kool aid drinkers to forgive him, which they will, then we (USA) will all live happily ever after. Oh, except that we will be living in abject poverty like much of the rest of the world. Tyrants like it that way since people who must scramble every day just to find enough to eat don't have time to think about being free so they are much easier to rule over, becoming not unlike sheep.
- eir574, on 06/15/2008, -1/+7"and he must be since that religion teaches that it is hereditary"
. . . which would be meaningful only to someone who placed himself under the jurisdiction of Islam. Do you really think that someone whose father is Muslim has absolutely no choice in life but to consider himself to be a Muslim as well? That's ridiculous. It's amazing to me how often people repeat that twisted logic as if it's at all meaningful. It smacks of desperation. (And, no, I don't think it changes anything if someone's parents educate him in the Islamic faith when he's a child. Many parents educate their children in their religious faith. It doesn't lock those children into that faith. It's for them to choose or reject it later in life.) - Squidwalk, on 06/16/2008, -1/+2Presidents are not religious advisers. Their religious affiliation is irrelevant to their position. Choosing to vote for one based on religion is equivalent to choosing based on other arbitrary criteria, such as their weight or haircut. Informed people choose a president that represents their ideals. Uniformed people choose their president based on arbitrary details, allowing them to be governed by policies they do not support, not unlike sheep.
- eir574, on 06/15/2008, -1/+7"and he must be since that religion teaches that it is hereditary"
- von8, on 06/15/2008, -3/+8Islam is patrilineal. Of course his father would have raised him that way. It's silly to think otherwise.
- dforty3, on 06/16/2008, -0/+2And how long did his father raise him?
- bendiggn, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1His father never helped raise him.
- Christianptriot, on 06/15/2008, -4/+7More lies, half-truths and twisted, spin-doctoring ahead from the Obama crowd....
- Ramble, on 06/15/2008, -7/+9Give me a reason why this is worse than being Christian?
- exgop, on 06/16/2008, -4/+3Modern Christians do not chop off peoples head if they disagree with them. Christians don't have rape rooms. Christians don't treat women like second class citizens. Christians don't strap bombs on the backs of 17 year old Down Syndrome girls and have them kill Innocent people in a market. Your Pathetic
- Ramble, on 06/16/2008, -3/+8It's spelt you're, not your.
I live in the UK, we've had trouble with the IRA for years, don't tell me Christians don't do that when many of them do. In fact most of the violence on Digg comes from you guys wanting to kill all Muslims or kill all homosexuals. I'm glad you take the word of your reported savior so seriously.
The majority of Muslims in the world do none of those things, if they did you'd have a bigger problem on your hands.
Also, consider the fact that what they see as a Christian army has invaded and killed 600 000 of their people, I'd be surprised if there was no violence.- exgop, on 06/16/2008, -2/+3Modern day, you ***** coward Brit, modern day. The IRA was more political than religious.
- dforty3, on 06/16/2008, -2/+3Have you seen what modern Christians in America are all about? Certainly not all of them and not particularly where I live in NY, but the majority of Christians in America are "Hell" bent on using violence with their faith in Christ as justification. They are Christian Soldiers preparing for the second coming of Christ and the Bush administration has done more to set the stage for this rapture than any other President in History.
I'd say watch this video called Jesus Camp, exgop, but it sounds like you may be a graduate so I'm sure this is nothing new to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD2Hyiitpys - Squidwalk, on 06/16/2008, -1/+6"Modern Christians do not chop off peoples head if they disagree with them."
There are plenty of examples available of extremist Christians murdering people they disagree with, such as gays, abortion office workers, that sort.
"Christians don't have rape rooms."
Remember the pedophilia scandal with the Catholics a few years back?
"Christians don't treat women like second class citizens."
There's the whole Genesis 2:23 "she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man" thing. And there's the opposition to birth control options and abortion. But you're right, Christians are still better than Muslims there, but they're still not good to women.
"Christians don't strap bombs on the backs of 17 year old Down Syndrome girls..."
Christians have approved of many of the recent wars, which sent lots of 18 year olds to their death. Then there's the whole IRA thing Ramble already touched on.
Christians can be some violent people! Sure, most of them aren't violent, but most Muslims aren't either.
- Ramble, on 06/16/2008, -3/+8It's spelt you're, not your.
- PuterPrsn, on 06/16/2008, -2/+2It isn't - except that he lied about it. That makes it important. If he had admitted it and said he had switched the religion of his childhood for the one he has now, then no harm, no foul. It's the lying that makes it an issue.
- Squidwalk, on 06/16/2008, -1/+1Isn't it a little silly to say that a politician should be decried because he lies? It's not a job traditionally associated with telling the truth. Perhaps it would be more relevant if he lied about a more political matter, like telling people he'd vote one way and voting another once he has their support. But this is about religion, and religion is not particularly relevant to politics unless you live in a theocracy. If a voter makes a decision based on religion and not the policies a candidate supports they are choosing based on irrelevant criteria.
- exgop, on 06/16/2008, -4/+3Modern Christians do not chop off peoples head if they disagree with them. Christians don't have rape rooms. Christians don't treat women like second class citizens. Christians don't strap bombs on the backs of 17 year old Down Syndrome girls and have them kill Innocent people in a market. Your Pathetic
- ronnor, on 06/15/2008, -6/+9Christians don't go around cutting heads off, that's one biggy. Don't get to heaven automatically when I kill a Jew. Don't get 72 virgin slaves to rape when I kill a Jew. Can draw a cartoon of Jesus and not get my head cut off. That's just right off the top of my head that hasn't been cut off yet. Ramble, you have to be kidding right?
- BillE3, on 06/15/2008, -5/+6I applaud the Israeli news for publishing this story, the Amercian media would never touch it.
- bendiggn, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2That is because Israeli news took an AP story and changed the facts and reposted it.
MSNBC has covered this story. Malik Obama has only claimed that "Barack is a Christian".
Original AP article quote from here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496
Always check your sources.
- bendiggn, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2That is because Israeli news took an AP story and changed the facts and reposted it.
- kingygk, on 06/15/2008, -5/+6Notice that the diggers are ignoring this important story. They don't want the "new Messiah's" image damaged.
- Squidwalk, on 06/16/2008, -1/+4What if they don't think religion is as important as policies? I'm not voting for the next president because of their religion, I'm voting for the guy whose policies I agree with the most.
- exgop, on 06/17/2008, -2/+2An election should not be about religion. It is about policies. If ones policy is to take from the hard working well off and GIVE it to people who are not working, that is a policy I oppose.Several of O-Blah-blah's economic policies are just that. Bringing up the Muslim thing is legitimate. In case you don't know, there are millions of Muslims that want to kill us because we don't believe the way they do. There are about a billion Muslim who empathize to a certain degree with these radicals.
- Squidwalk, on 06/17/2008, -0/+3I don't understand how your opposition to Obama's socio-economic policies relate to his previous Muslim membership. Can you please explain this for me?
I also don't understand how Obama's previous membership in Islam relates to people who are still Muslims and want to kill us. Isn't the larger point that he used to be Muslim, and rejected it in favor of Christianity. This makes him an apostate to the rest of the Muslims, as well as an admirable Christian. He rejected the religion of his family, the religion he grew up with, in order to be a Christian. Is your opposition to Obama based on the fact that an ex-Muslim President would damage US/Muslim relations?
- Squidwalk, on 06/17/2008, -0/+3I don't understand how your opposition to Obama's socio-economic policies relate to his previous Muslim membership. Can you please explain this for me?
- exgop, on 06/17/2008, -2/+2An election should not be about religion. It is about policies. If ones policy is to take from the hard working well off and GIVE it to people who are not working, that is a policy I oppose.Several of O-Blah-blah's economic policies are just that. Bringing up the Muslim thing is legitimate. In case you don't know, there are millions of Muslims that want to kill us because we don't believe the way they do. There are about a billion Muslim who empathize to a certain degree with these radicals.
- Squidwalk, on 06/16/2008, -1/+4What if they don't think religion is as important as policies? I'm not voting for the next president because of their religion, I'm voting for the guy whose policies I agree with the most.
- exgop, on 06/16/2008, -5/+4Its sad, there are millions of people who call themselves Americans are supporting this guy. When you bring evidence that O-Blah-Blah is not qualified to be president they call you racist. O-Blah-Blah's supporter truly are mind numb robots.
- AgainstObama, on 06/17/2008, -1/+1Too bad the media won't report these lies from Obama.
- jackbauer007, on 06/17/2008, -1/+2I guess having the name Barack Hussein Obama wasn't proof enough.
- kscitydude, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1"Malik Obama confirms Obama raised as Muslim"
Very misleading head line Dewhead, Maybe you should change your handle to propagandisthead. Here is the actual quote from web.israelinsider.com:"As the Jerusalem Post 'reports', "Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background."
I clicked on 'reports' to try to read the actual story and guess what I got:Content Server could not process the request. For some reason the article is no longer available online. Seems odd to me. While everyone is jumping on this story, especially FoxNews no surprise there, the article that started all this is gone. - kscitydude, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1"Malik Obama confirms Obama raised as Muslim"
Very misleading head line Dewhead, maybe you should change your handle to propagandisthead. Here is the actual quote from web.israelinsider.com:"As the Jerusalem Post 'reports', "Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background."
I clicked on 'reports' to try to read the actual story and guess what I got:Content Server could not process the request. For some reason the article is no longer available online. Seems odd to me. While everyone is jumping on this story, especially FoxNews no surprise there, the article that started all this is gone. So I'm left with this question, did Malik say this or not? - kscitydude, on 06/18/2008, -1/+0First my apologies for the double post. I was editing and well you see what happened. I took some time and read some articles on israelinsider.com. Some there seem not to support Senator Obama which is understandable since there are two things that the Israel government wants from the U.S. Our billions in aid and to bomb Iran. I know from what the Senator has said that he would like to take the diplomacy road. What I don't understand is that with all the nuclear weapons that Israel has, why do they need the U.S. to do it. Just do it yourselves and get it over with.
- kscitydude, on 06/18/2008, -1/+0First my apologies for the double post. I was editing and well you see what happened. I took some time and read some articles on israelinsider.com. Some there seem not to support Senator Obama which is understandable since there are two things that the Israel government wants from the U.S. Our billions in aid and to bomb Iran. I know from what the Senator has said that he would like to take the diplomacy road. What I don't understand is that with all the nuclear weapons that Israel has, why do they need the U.S. to do it. Just do it yourselves and get it over with.
- bendiggn, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1You have your facts wrong. Malik Obama has only claimed that "Barack is a Christian".
Original AP article quote from here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496
Always check your sources. The by line at this israelinsider site article lists "By Israel Insider staff". So they send interns to Kenya? I don't think so.
The article also sites a link to an article at the Jerusalem Post. This link is dead (if it ever existed).
What a bunch of hacks.
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