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- Tarantulus, on 10/12/2009, -35/+405is that limbaugh saying "the president is a worldwide joke?"
well guess what limbaugh, I live in the world outside america, and most of us think YOU are a joke, BUSH was a joke and the republican party in general is the BIGGEST JOKE OF ALL TIME.
you do not speak for us, you bigoted filthmonger
PS, I do not agree with the award going to Obama, but it's not like he asked for it, why bash him? surely you should be attacking the noble prize comittee? - addnathan, on 10/11/2009, -116/+336I agree with Rachel Maddow. Barack Obama stood in the face of history and changed its course to a more peaceful charter. That alone is Peace Prize worthy. The world outside the USA is able to judge President Obama without constant partisan attacks. The world community seems to recognize change.
- ChuckDees, on 10/12/2009, -37/+248It is funny to see right wingers complain about basically nonsense. When they........
Never cared about the 1 trillion dollar plus tax cut in 03 which created major deficits.
Never cared about the 600 billion dollar medicare plan.
Never cared about the supposed conservative value of not foreign nation building.
Never cared about building OUR nation.
Never cared about domestic spying.
Never cared about exposing a CIA agents identity based on politics.
Never cared about lying the nation into a war.
Ahhh there is too much more to list about their apathy.
But they have found their voice now. The scum poor do not need health care and they are happy the USA failed at getting the Olympics. - punkybrewster77, on 10/12/2009, -39/+219This is why when it was known in Europe that Obama had won, they danced in the streets. The hope was widespread.
- fkd247, on 10/12/2009, -23/+157I too was a little bit "wtf!" when Pres Obama won but didn't really know that the Nobel prize can be awarded for effort and not necessarily success. It's still a bit early but the world agrees that he has turned the ship around and is heading in the right direction.
- georgebnet, on 10/12/2009, -19/+127Who modded parent down? He is right, they did dance in the streets in Europe when Obama won the election (not the nobel prize)! For the record, from this side of the Atlantic the only redeeming thing about the U.S. of A. is your president. You should look in the mirror sometime, America has a very bad reputation.
- rhythmchanges, on 10/12/2009, -6/+72You have refuted nathan expertly!
I completely understand how donuts are relevant! - browntiger, on 10/12/2009, -10/+72The whole republican party is a joke.
They don't really know what they stand for. Just repeating quickly "Nancy Pelosi", "ACORN", "Barack Hussein Obama", "census" does the job with least educated base. Truth is irrelevant to them. Biggest problem of US healthcare - "access to doctors". - LostRiot, on 10/12/2009, -16/+75Seriously, what's with he guys cheering when the USA didn't get the olympics, something about cutting of you nose and spiting your face comes to mind.
I seriously don't get some people, how can anyone possibly believe that Bush, i.e. the republican party have better ideals than the democrats. Maybe if you love pain and suffering I guess. - teebird, on 10/12/2009, -7/+66Quoting imbleeding: "Have yet to see someone try and support this ridiculousness with anything better than broad and transparent platitudes - y'all are embarrassing yourselves."
We could say the same about people who indulge in mindless knee-jerk anti-Obama attacks. - twiztidsinz, on 10/12/2009, -10/+63Feel free to leave.....
Free Republic is over there: http://www.freerepublic.com/
Or maybe you're more of a StormFront kinda guy: http://www.stormfront.org/ - VitriolAndAngst, on 10/12/2009, -21/+74The award shocked and surprised me at first, but now I understand; the award went to America, which Obama represents. It's as much a HOPE for the right track of diplomacy as it is to send a big "F U" to the Republican war machine.
In contrast to the moronic cowboys who strut around with their ignorance, the average Joe towers above the average NeoCon thug.
Desmond Tutu received the award 10 years before apartheid ended. So a lot of the time it's about recognition for being on the right track rather than having already arrived.
Nobody made the world feel a bigger sense of relief than Obama for simply not being the village idiot George Bush. - georgebnet, on 10/12/2009, -24/+72Just about as much as the other nominees and, more importantly, past winners of the prize.
- st00dy, on 10/12/2009, -14/+58This video would appear to show an intelligent woman calmly expressing an opinion and using facts to reinforce her position.
This can be juxtaposed with the presentation style found on the opposing side of this debate, where one finds heavy-set men who ignorantly flit from one topic to another like a high-cholesterol butterfly with 'directional-issues'. They will use exuberant body-language and passionate rhetoric to make their point and shout and jab their fingers at any 'expert' who dares hold their argument up to scrutiny.
And then when the news cycle ends they find another subject in which to become a temporary expert. Repeat ad nauseum.
I guess my point is that I doubt anyone who is criticising the Nobel committee decision even knows who won it last year (without recourse to Wikipedia), and as such does not appreciate the selection criteria. If you don't understand the game, get off the field. - Slicklines, on 10/12/2009, -7/+50Excellent job of proving Maddow's point. Well done.
- gizram84, on 10/12/2009, -37/+79in all honesty, what has he done to propagate peace?
- addnathan, on 10/12/2009, -15/+57Again I see an absolute lack of fact in statements countering anything President Obama does. Instead you attempt to reduce any argument to name calling or punchlines. For change to occur, an element of resistance must exist. However, there is no need for that element to be adolescent and argumentative. Instead, try adding productive content to any debate in which you are privileged enough to find anyone willing to listen. The world was a collective victim of George W. Bush policy for eight long years and feared McCain-Palin policy being so close to the White House. For Barack Obama to stand and rally a nation against fear and trepidation with hope and inspiration is still very impressive.
- Mujokan, on 10/12/2009, -13/+54Obama didn't ask to be given the Nobel Peace Prize. They are probably doing it to pressure him on Afghanistan. People should get off his back, it's ridiculous.
- Grazzit, on 10/12/2009, -25/+65even obama doesn't think he deserves it yet....
- rx8geek, on 10/12/2009, -9/+46Well from my perspective over here in Australia... at least the clips I see online, mostly through Colbert and Stewart... the worldwide joke is definitely the deranged ramblings of that guy and this other Beck loon. I guess it might be less entertaining and more depressing if I was living there and had to tolerate people who buy into their crap.
But i suspect every country in the world has characters like these... just different levels of noise.
I do think Obama is deserving of the award tho... mainly for some of the reasons pointed out in the clip! - Tarantulus, on 10/12/2009, -8/+45for all of you intelligent democrats out there, take solace in the fact that you have support from the vast majority of us on the other side of the atlantic.
- LostRiot, on 10/12/2009, -12/+48You think anyone who wins it thinks they deserve it?
I very much doubt it, otherwise they would be arrogant douches and not nobel peace prize winners. - Slicklines, on 10/12/2009, -2/+38True. America's rep is not so great. But then, I was just in Austria, and saw Nazi tags everywhere. In Brussels a few years ago I saw World Cup rioting. In some sections of Iceland I have seen terrible xenophobia. In Fiji, racism is still rampant. Ditto Japan. We are not any paragon of anything. Neither is anyone else.
- georgebnet, on 10/12/2009, -7/+42http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr68F-pzdTc&fea ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=terjluXsmLo
Republicans may not like it, but his victory was _very_ much celebrated by the "rest of the world"... - eugenetabisco, on 10/12/2009, -11/+45georgebnet -- sadly, America has become a country of divisiveness, politics and policy as sport. People waving their foam fingers spewing "We're number one!" Many can't stand back and admit mistake or accept failure.
When W won his first election, I was not as concerned because I, too, fell for the "compassionate conservatism" (that is not to say I voted for him, I didn't) But his actions and policies quickly shoved compassion to the side, even before 9/11. 9/11 gave his administration free reign.
Now, even after the revelation of no WMD in Iraq, even without finding Osama bin Laden, even with a collapse of the banks almost leading to another Great Depression, even with the greatest deficit in history, there are still a third who wish he were still in office. For what reason? Because they cannot accept they were wrong. They still must believe they are number one. - ColonelJessup, on 10/12/2009, -9/+40Everyone go outside.
- raymondmarble, on 10/12/2009, -6/+36"wtf is this liberal ***** doing here..oh wait it's digg."
In other words, you are unable to pen any intelligent rebuttal to Maddow's points in the video, correct? - BlindWebster, on 10/12/2009, -18/+46For Obama: He has stood his ground somewhat against Israel in the Israel-Palestine conflict. He sided with the President of Honduras. Some outreach to Iran
Against Obama: Not ending Iraq, Adding troops to Afganistan, expanding the war into Pakistan, would not take a Iran nuclear first strike off the table, Guantanamo still open, the alternate Guantanamo in Afganistan? is still open, secret rendition is still on, imprisonment without trial continues. There's plenty more, particularly on the U.S. police state escalation.
As media matter said, if you criticize the president you stand with terrorists. Where have we heard that before? - georgebnet, on 10/12/2009, -20/+46Because he's a real human being with a realistic self image and very high expectations about what needs to be done.
- wtrwlkr, on 10/12/2009, -2/+27Don't forget the "fair and balanced" Fox Nation
www.thefoxnation.com - Tarantulus, on 10/12/2009, -5/+29partisan? have you ever heard of an outside opinion?
i'm not american, I don't live in the US, so I can form my choices regardless of the bull that your politicians are spewing.
if anything here in the UK I'm considered slightly conservative, but the repubs are seriously damaging your country and I wouldn't want to be associated with the likes of them, the libs and cons over here are unanimous in their agreement on that subject at least.. - Moralogic, on 10/12/2009, -8/+30Because you know that comment actually has a point to it. No substance because you have no point.
- LostRiot, on 10/12/2009, -5/+26Ditto from the UK,
Glen beck is hilarious, but if I was from the states, I'd probably be more angry that he gets air time, I just like to laugh at his retarded opinions. - Rahodeb, on 10/12/2009, -4/+25Thank for for the voice of reason. This red vs. blue crap is what is really killing this country. We need to keep all politicians accountable, no matter whose team is in charge at the time.
- GalacticXenu, on 10/12/2009, -40/+60I don't give a ***** about the goddamn republicans, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, or any other of those loons. Quit giving them more of a pulpit by repeating what they've said, and quit (deliberately) trying to equate anyone who criticizes Obama as someone who gives those clowns any credence.
But I am getting sick of is the Obama worship. Because of the aforementioned lunatics, anyone who criticized Obama is portrayed by his followers as a "right-wing nutjob" and anything short of genuflecting at the mere mention of Obama's name is some sort of arch-Republican blasphemy.
Claim Obama didn't deserve the Nobel peace prize, at all, and suddenly you're in league with Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. Point out all the campaign promises Obama didn't deliver on that he could've by now and you're met with "GIVE HIM TIME!" yet at the same time he wins a Nobel peace prize for nothing of actual substance and suddenly he's done more than enough to deserve it. Obama was in office for only 11 days before the nomination period ended. Suddenly, mere rhetoric is enough to win the Nobel peace prize? Where's my prize, then?--I've been criticizing U.S. foreign policy and war-making much more harshly than Obama ever has or ever will.
Give me a ***** break. Obama is a powerful man, and powerful men are not to be trusted. You start trusting the guy behind the steering wheel completely and fall asleep while he's behind the wheel, you've got only yourself to blame when you wake up and found out exactly where he's taken you. - quisph, on 10/12/2009, -4/+24Not only "would" Rachel admit it, she DID admit it, at 1:10. Dugg both of you down for not watching the video before commenting on it.
- TotalHalibut, on 10/12/2009, -4/+23Chiming in to say that American shock-jocks and Fox News are daily talking points in our UK office. The talking generally consists of laughing at how stupid they are.
- TeCuervo, on 10/12/2009, -1/+20I am a member of the GOP and sadly I agree with you.
I may wonder why but I am proud my president is a Nobel winner.
I like and sincerely respect McCain but I voted for Obama because being a member of a party does not mean you follow it blindly, I would expect the same from democrats who disagree with their leadership. Unfortunately the GOP belongs now to the neocons and not moderate republicans any more.
I appreciate people who disagree with Obama's policies, as long as they have their reasons, even religious, other than just political bickering.
The irony is that, in my eyes, republican and liberal, are two words with one meaning so most of you may say "he is no republican." I am. I am an atheist, liberal, moderate republican. It would be easier to explain if I were gay too.
Congrats Obama on the prize. - mrfunktastic, on 10/12/2009, -1/+20@ ChuckDees - let's not forget the trump card. These people would have put Sarah freaking Palin in the office of the Vice President. That single fact alone simply dismisses all credibility on their part, and I use it as an argument closer. There isn't really much to say or defend after that.
- teebird, on 10/12/2009, -2/+21That's something a lot of people don't understand about the Nobel Peace Prize. Unlike the other awards that recognize a long-term effort in science or a lifetime of achievement in literature, the Peace Prize is awarded more on the basis of current effort and, I suspect, in response to the committee's perception of international politics at the time.
I can't think of any Nobel peace laureate whose work could be considered an unqualified success. But all the Nobel winners we recognized by the committee as having made significant contributions to the cause of peace. - ThsGuyRightHere, on 10/12/2009, -9/+28She addressed your point on her show. Couldn't be bothered to watch the video huh.
- sugarazor, on 10/12/2009, -6/+24I didn't know a handful of whackjob anti-gay, anti-Democrat, gun nuts, counted as "half the country."
- sugarazor, on 10/12/2009, -0/+17thcobbs -
Because people who opposed Bush were actually right? You're not "deranged" if your claims are justified.
No WMDs? Correct.
No link between Iraq & al-Qaeda? Correct.
Falsified information to mislead country into war? Correct.
Human rights violations? Correct.
Manufactured fear to advance political agenda and be re-elected? Correct.
Now on the Obama side:
Socialism? Nope.
Communism? Nope.
Facism? Nope.
Brainwashing? Nope.
Census leading to American internment? Nope.
Government take over of the health care system? Nope.
Man/turtle marriage? Nope.
etc. etc. - addnathan, on 10/12/2009, -9/+26By 'world community' I was noting President Obama's and America's high international approval ratings since he has taken office, and more importantly, America's renewed roll in the U.N. as a productive member instead of misguided tyrant. If you are looking for salesmen to award a prizes to, I have three nominees: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for their work on WMD's and linking Iraq to 9/11. I know some are frightened by words like 'world' and 'international' still, I applaud President Obama for acknowledging the way the world sees America, matters, and is ultimately linked to peace.
- agentkimchee, on 10/12/2009, -6/+22If you listened to the video or Obama's speech, you would have heard that the Nobel Peace Prize is sometimes awarded to encourage a leader to continue working towards peace in a particular way.
So, yes, if Obama can "sell" the idea of peacemaking, then he is exactly who "deserves" the prize. - Stingwolf, on 10/12/2009, -8/+24"there are still a third who wish he were still in office."
You do realize that, policy-wise, he effectively -is- still in office, right? We're still at war in Afghanistan. We're still at war in Iraq. We still have Gitmo. We still have secret prisons. We still have warrantless wiretaps on our phones (now with added telco immunity thanks, in part, to Obama's vote in the Senate). We still have the PATRIOT Act (it even got extended thanks, in part, to Obama's vote in the Senate). What, exactly, has changed aside from rhetoric? Sure, he talks a little bit nicer about other countries, but actions speak louder than words. And, as far as I have seen, the actions are all the same. - pocketjacks, on 10/12/2009, -6/+22Don't exclude the fact that there has been evidence behind the liberal attacks...(i.e no WMDs, torture, warrentless wiretapping) as opposed to the right wing attacks (Muslim Nazi Socialist with no birth certificate).
- rx8geek, on 10/12/2009, -2/+18rwprice, I figured someone would probably bring this up and you kinda missed my point.
I dont follow US politics and have little interest in doing so... even though the outcomes have global ramifications and could certainly affect my own life. I'm not looking for an sort of unbaised news perspective, as though anything of the sort could even be possible!
But my point was to counter the claim by limbaugh, that the president is a worldwide joke... when its actually them that get the exposure that can only be described as laughable.
The snippets of US news we get are for the most part uninteresting because its just that... politics. Its the entertainment clips we see from the likes of Stewart and Colbert that colour our impression... and although I'm probably a small sample of a worldwide audience, I wouldnt be surprised if more peoples opinions are coloured in the same manner.
The president certainly isnt a laughing stock... but the clips that we do tend to see certainly make his critics look ridiculous!!! - kakwakas, on 10/12/2009, -0/+16Welcome to politics. The only instance in the world where two sides can work together to do something terrible, and the followers of each side only blame their opponents.
- rhuxley, on 10/12/2009, -11/+26He's changed the dialogue with the international community, both allies and potential foes. That in it's self is a good start.
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