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- kelalo, on 05/13/2008, -2/+66Well, I guess he took Clinton at her word when she said that pledged delegates are free to switch sides.
- headzoo, on 05/13/2008, -5/+43I'm a strong Obama supporter, but this is f'd up. This is why the delegate system is wrong, wrong, wrong. Thousands of people have had their vote thrown in the trash.
- tjbeyerl, on 05/13/2008, -0/+23http://digg.com/settings/topics
Uncheck 2008 US Elections. Problem solved. - AZRoboto, on 05/13/2008, -1/+20What happened to Democracy? He is a pledged delegate. The people elected him to vote for Hillary.
No matter how much I like Obama, this is simply unforgivable. - Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -1/+19Update!
Total
....Delegates: 3253
....SuperDelegates: 795
....Overall: 4048
Simple Majority: 2025
Standings
....Obama
........Delegates: 1591.5
........SDs: 283
........Overall: 1874.5
........Needed: 150.5
....Clinton
........Delegates: 1425.5
........SDs: 270.5
........Overall: 1696
........Needed: 329
....Remainder
........Delegates: 236
........SDs: 241.5
........Overall: 477.5
Projected
....Obama: 115
....Clinton: 103
....Needed SD's
....Obama: 36 (15%)
....Clinton: 226 (94%)
....Needed results in remaining contests for Delegate Tie:
....Clinton: 207 (76%)
....Obama: 29 (24%) - booshack, on 05/13/2008, -0/+15I'm an Obama supporter, but this is just idiotic, and will do nothing but further help Clinton argue that pledged delegates can just switch to her at the convention.
- RockMuncher, on 05/13/2008, -1/+15I'm a Canadian, so I really have no say in your election (but I prefer Obama anyway). I'm also consistently baffled by your system... though I imagine the reverse is just as true (Bloc Québécois FTW!).
However, it strikes me as a *very* bad idea for any delegates who are 'encouraged' to vote the way their districts and people have voted to suddenly switch candidates. I thought that was what superdelegates were for... to break a tie in the event of two strong candidates, without ignoring (much) the voting public's opinions. It just seems like a big old 'screw you, you don't know what you're talking about!' towards their own voters... which isn't likely to get them elected again. - mycoplasma, on 05/13/2008, -0/+12I hate Hillary Clinton, but i still think this is insane. pledged delegates should vote for who they are pledged to vote for. This guy needs to realize that he's not a superdelegate. If he can switch from Hillary to Obama, then there's no reason that other delegates cant switch from Obama to Hillary, and that is undermining democracy.
Also, we'll probably soon be seeing some really stupid speech from hillary very soon in which she cries about how she thinks the election is rigged, and I REALLY dont want to have to deal with that. - BrendanSheehan, on 05/13/2008, -1/+13Since they voted for Clinton it was already in the trash.
- crazyjake, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13well, seeing as how this election determines the future of the US, and has a major impact on the world in general, these stories are moderately important. Informed voters are some of the most valuable assests america has. but i guess you are only concerned with more pressing matters like half naked pictures of Hannah Montana. Sorry that Digg is dissapointing you with articles about topics that acutally matter.
/rant done - makenshin, on 05/13/2008, -0/+10This is a Pledged candidate they are talking about, not a Super delegate. I believe this is the first time I've seen a story about a pledged delegate switching for this election.
- natchiketa, on 05/13/2008, -1/+11wtf are you talking about? he's. not. a. muslim. were you kidding? god help you get some brains.
- eatrains, on 05/14/2008, -0/+8Unfortunately, yes. Some people are scared.
- Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+11Obama better tell this guy to vote as he is pledged by his primary results, or Clinton will use this as an excuse to raid the Obama pledged delegates.
- christophe971, on 05/14/2008, -0/+9Barack Bush Obama.
- Mejari, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8I agree. Elections are important and we need to- wait, did you say naked pictures of Hannah Montana?
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8Poe.
- carterbaldwin, on 05/14/2008, -1/+9Technically, Barack Hiter Muhammed Antichrist Hussein il-Jong Jihad Obama.
Did I miss any, Ms. Coulter? - headzoo, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7Don't feed the trolls!
- Rendonsmug, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7Dugg. I voted for Obama in the Texas primary and most likely I'll vote for him in November, but this is not cool.
- koreth, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6Nobody with a brain, no.
- headzoo, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9Thankfully Obama isn't the type to take the low road just because the other candidate is taking it. I'm an Obama supporter, but I think it's wrong for a pledged delegate to cast aside the will of the people, and do whatever they feel like.
Just more proof that this whole delegate system is messed up. - makenshin, on 05/13/2008, -1/+7So many people who wished they knew that long ago. I on the other hand, like to know what is going on in the 2008 elections on all sides.
- dagamer34, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7It's like taking that last final you don't really need but want to walk out 10 minutes after getting it just to make everyone else in the room go "WTF?"
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Pledged delegates have the option to switch under the bylaws. Mind you, then end their chances of reelection if their public disagrees with that decision.
- PamalaLauren, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Remember when everyone bitched about Ron Paul spam? Seriously people there's a way to avoid this stuff, use it.
- Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6Hillary gets the white trash vote, so Obama has to get all the thinking people.
- rdoger6424, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6Barack Hiter Judas Muhammed Mussolini Antichrist Hussein Hillary Imus il-Jong Stalin Mao Jihad Obama
Beat THAT! - Dimbleby, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5I agree....he better stick to his pledged guns...this could end up nasty.
/obama 08!! - dmcbride6, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5I can't wait to vote for Obama...but I must be missing something here...doesn't the fact he is a pledged delegate mean he is representing the votes from the people?
It just doesnt seem right for pledged delegates to switch endorsements based off of what they feel is right - it isnt their endorsement to switch. - antipro, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4I'm surprised he even supported Clinton in the first place given the decent sized african american community in PG County
- xrant, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4I'm Canadian and even I know the importance of not electing a Bush clone like Hillary. I agree that Digg is Obama this and that but hell yeah, about time there was some good news and not Bush did this, Bush did that. Like tjbeyerl said above, uncheck us elections in your settings and voila, problem solved.
GO 'BAMA! - ben_nushmut, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4And it was allowed to stand (in the episode) because the DNC is a private organization and can essentially do whatever it wants. I support Obama, but I believe the pledged delegates should be required to vote for the candidate their district chose, until the candidate releases them to vote freely. But then that makes sense, unlike the clear implication here that our individual votes ultimately mean nothing. And we wonder why people get so cynical about our electoral system...
- superkendall, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5If she's correct, and then can, then why is it such a bad point to make?
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Besides, he doesn't need to. In WV, the projected win for Clinton is around a 33 point spread. Compared to the 76% she needs to even *gain ground*, WV and all remaining contests are going to be a wash for her.
- br0ck, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4No democrat has ever lost DC like she did and won the White House either. Comparisons like that are just ridiculous.
- drschloss, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5I'm an Obama supporter here and I just wanted to post a little comment directed at those people that are shunning this guy for switching sides. I live in Prince George's county, I voted in the primary for Obama and when my county rocked that pesky Clinton 94,741 votes to 23,965 I was thrilled. I'm more surprised to find out that there were any Clinton supporting delegates in my county when she got put under the table by 59 points.
- inactive, on 05/13/2008, -3/+8Whew, glad my state is starting see reason...
- Mejari, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4It wasn't a super-delegate, it was a regular delegate.
- cadmiumpaint, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3West Virginia is HARDLY a realistic gage of the national democratic party. It has no major Urban centers (compared to Baltimore, D.C. and Philly which are all in the region) This is a state that is overwhelmingly blue collar, Church going, uneducated, working class, white conservative democrat. This is a very niche state, and is an anomaly for the Democratic party
Go spread your Fox News propaganda somewhere else. - Joo52, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3This all makes a ton of sense seeing that 79% of the vote in the primary in PG county went to Obama. I live here and I can attest to how much Obama support there is here. The county plays host to the University of Maryland campus and the rest of the county's population is predominantly black. No surprises here.
- burnblue, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3He shouldn't do this. This is not the democratic way. He represents people's votes.
- dupe, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Sheep? And your solution to turning off the TV is YouTube...? Pfff.
- dmcbride6, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3You don't think she's been trying?
- yunus, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Slippery slope and stupid rule. Delegates should be bound to their candidate. In the case of something crazy like death of a candidate or they go crazy or go to jail or something drastic happens the DNC chairman and a committee should vote to allow delegates who are bound to that specific candidate to change votes.
- explnx, on 04/27/2009, -0/+3Exactly the same thing happened on an episode of Boston Legal two weeks ago. Pledged delegate switched from Clinton to Obama because he didn't agree with his state.
- zephc, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Something else that I don't think anyone has noted is that he also changed his vote because he feels Obama has a better chance of winning, in effect voting for the most popular instead of voting by who has the best policies (although, as others pointed out, he is a pledge delegate and already has his vote committed to HRC). I think she is a *****, but people who vote should vote on principles, not popularity, and representatives of a voting block should vote based on those they represent, not on whatever they feel like.
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