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- jgekko, on 09/18/2008, -0/+55Man this guy is really selfish, quoting his book on the article I read:
"(In his 2002 memoir, “Worth the Fighting For,” he wrote, revealingly, “I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I’d had the ambition for a long time.”) "
He doesn't give a damn about the American people, HE first, HE second, HE third... Read right, he didn't want to become president to reform the economy, Wall Street or whatever he believe in, he wanted to be president because it was HIS ambition, HIS desire for the long time. So HE is going to do whatever it can be done, even if that means saying BIG LIES. John McCain doesn't understand middle-class people, this guy is rich, has more than 6 houses and his wife is a multi-millionaire heiress, starting with that.
John McCain STILL & WOULD NOT GET IT.
Obama/Biden '08 - voxlisa999, on 09/18/2008, -0/+53FTA: Very disturbing indeed.
Other aspects of McCain, including his temperament, began to trouble me. He seemed disturbingly bellicose. He gave the Iraq war unflagging support no matter the facts. He still talks about “winning” the war, though George W. Bush gave that up some time ago. As the war became increasingly unpopular, he employed the useful technique of blaming its execution rather than recognizing the misconceptions that had led him to be one of the most enthusiastic champions of the war in the first place.
Similarly, in making a big issue of having backed the surge (and simplifying the reasons for its apparent success), he preempts debate on the very idea of the war. He has talked (and sung) loosely about attacking Iran. More recently, he oversimplified this summer’s events in Georgia and made intemperate remarks about Russia, about which he’s been more belligerent than the administration for some time. (He has his own set of neocons.)
There’s an argument that all this compromise wasn’t necessary: some very smart political analysts believed from the outset that McCain could win the nomination by sticking with his old self (These people insisted on anonymity because McCain is known in Republican circles to have a long memory and a vindictive streak.)
By then I had already concluded that that there was a disturbingly erratic side of McCain’s nature. There’s a certain lack of seriousness in him. And he does not appear to be a reflective man, or very interested in domestic issues. One cannot imagine him ruminating late into the night about, say, how to educate and train Americans for the new global and technological challenges.
McCain’s making a big issue of “earmarks” and citing entertaining examples of ridiculous-sounding ones, circumvents discussion of the larger issues of the allocation of funds in the federal budget: according to the Office of Management and Budget, earmarks represent less than one percent of federal spending. - Echota, on 01/05/2009, -0/+31 “I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I’d had the ambition for a long time.”
John McCain
Nothing to do with country first but all to do with John McCains "ambition". - n8o8, on 09/19/2008, -1/+25"John McCain is not a principled man" Bingo
- jizzlies, on 09/19/2008, -1/+19They lost me with the lies in their ads:
http://www.bofads.blogspot.com/2008/09/more-mccain ... - GorfTron, on 09/19/2008, -1/+18McCain did not lose me. The GOP lost me.
- scythe33, on 09/19/2008, -0/+15I think it's clear who McCain is: someone who really, desperately wants to become President by any means necessary.
And it's kind of sad to see that. - inactive, on 09/19/2008, -0/+14"Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."
- Groucho
Why do I identify with that so much? - TECHeGO, on 09/19/2008, -0/+13As a devout christian and conservative republican I want to thank you for summing up my feelings towards John McCain and his campaign!
McCain’s recent conduct of his campaign – his willingness to lie repeatedly (including in his acceptance speech) and to play Russian roulette with the vice-presidency, in order to fulfill his long-held ambition – has reinforced my earlier, and growing, sense that John McCain is not a principled man.
In fact, it’s not clear who he is. - birdly, on 09/19/2008, -0/+10So the best you've got after all that is "It's Clinton's fault". As if the last eight years never happened......
- steakneggs, on 09/19/2008, -0/+10This is one of the worst argumentative responses I have seen in a while. Your post doesn't address anything jgekko said. Congrats.
- birdly, on 09/19/2008, -0/+9Landslide for Obama, on its way.
- DocGuy, on 09/19/2008, -0/+8As this campaign wares on, more and more of this type of analysis of McCain's tactics for becoming president are coming to light. When I found out that the race was going to be Obama vs. McCain, I was happy because it represented to me a win-win (I consider myself a centrist Democrat). That feeling didn't last long when McCain clearly shifted _all the way_ to the right in a transparent attempt to court the Republican base.
Now, he is an obvious two-faced politician who lacks the charisma and grace to actually pull it off. Beyond what he has done as a war hero, I have no respect for him. - inactive, on 09/19/2008, -0/+8Man, every day I see new stories of Republican/McCain converts. I have yet to read one "Obama lost me because..." article. Heck, I don't even remember much of this sort of thing happening in 2000. Bad news for Repubs indeed. This sort of thing speaks for itself.
- Sardonic2U, on 09/19/2008, -0/+7I dunno, by opening his mouth, agreeing with BUSH and to top off the sundae...picking Palin????
- m0llusk, on 09/19/2008, -0/+7The author of this piece wrote a book praising McCain, so it makes sense for them to revisit the issue. If you have thoughts about what she brought up, then we could discuss them.
- achacha, on 09/19/2008, -0/+7I'm a conservative and tired of having my intelligence insulted by GOP half-wits, do they really think people are that dumb and accept all these lies and then expect an honest presidency? Bush was a monumental mistake for this country and we are feeling it, McCain will make everything even worse... quite a legacy to leave for our children to clean up.
Obama has a backbone and dignity, which is why the electoral college should elect him as a president and GOP needs to reflect on the monster it has become.
Republicans for Obama! :) - birdly, on 09/19/2008, -0/+6Did you read the article? These are the most blatant lies we've ever seen in a campaign!
- pixelate, on 09/19/2008, -0/+6McCain had already lost me with his complete personality and policy shifts over the last few years. But articles like this (and we're seeing more and more of them) make me question if it was stupid of me to genuinely admire the man back in 2000.
His lead-by-example crusade against pork barrel spending, his role in campaign finance reform, his principled and sane positions against the religious right's influence in his own party... was that all for the sake of political expediency? - inactive, on 09/19/2008, -0/+6He would be a horrible, scary president... but that being said:
Does anyone else see the tragedy in this. McCain is a guy who seems to value friendship, and he is seeing his friends turn on him everyday while he is reaching the final chapter of his life. His good friend Mike Murphy is telling people that the race is over... He was loved by the press, and now they are calling him a liar. his own campaign won't let him pick his friend Lieberman as vp, He has even been forced to disown Lindsey Graham and Carla, and now even his biographers are turning on him. Yeah, I know, this race is way too close to give any quarter, but it is still a sad conclusion to his life. - oldgal, on 09/19/2008, -0/+6I also admired the man back in 2000 and still in 2004. I was giving him serious consideration this election, however, my research began giving me doubts. The VP selection was the final straw. Since then, I have had the creeping feeling that if he is elected we have no idea what he will stand for, I am disheartened to have these feelings supported by this article, because John McCain may become our next president - and we have no idea who he is or what he would stand for as president.
- justintsmith, on 09/19/2008, -0/+5Wait, what???? How is "“I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I’d had the ambition for a long time.”" not running on every ad the democrats put out?
"Country first" ? That's McCain saying "McCain first" on record in his own words.
Why the hell don't more people know about that line? - Tcasey0478, on 09/19/2008, -2/+7"(aware though I was that he had a temper)" sounds like Yoda
- towndump, on 09/20/2008, -0/+4I met Sen. McCain informally two years ago and had the opportunity to ask him several serious questions, among them was,"Would he support a woman's right to choose" which is extremely important to me (He said would). I liked his thoughtful answers, and him. Fast forward to now and the man is saying the opposite of what he told me then. I am a Republican Committeewoman, but I can not vote for someone who is so willing to change his position on major issues in order to win. He has definitely sold his soul.
- amy31415, on 09/20/2008, -0/+4Sadly, I used to respect McCain. I guess he used to hide his massive issues better in the past or I just wasn't as much of a political junkie.
Sad, so sad. Very good article though. - MaTT2011, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4
Sorry man, you fail at logic. You've committed one of the most egregious uses of the straw man fallacy i have ever seen. You are hence forth banished from the internets. Good day to you. - schwarzie2478, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4"The government forced the banks..."
This is such a thought provoking statement. I wanted to slam this comment when I first read it.
It gives away too much responsibility to a government who tried to help one social layer in need.
"They won't acknowledge the law of unintended consequences from well-meaning, if misguided, acts"
Very true
"Market failure? Hardly. Once again, this crisis has government's fingerprints all over it."
I'd say it's 75/25 banks over government. ( You can't blame the government of one country for the actions for banks all over the world...) - MisteryMeat, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4You underestimate the ignorance of Americans.
- JenniferInMO, on 09/20/2008, -0/+4But you still haven't read a single one of them, have you?
- neonoodle, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4And also just like Vista, he will soon have an ad with him and Seinfeld talking about nothing in particular.
- atomicfireball, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4Yes, there are two parties. Anyone who made it through grade school knows that much. And, no, you are not insinuating that Obama is as bad as McCain, you stated it outright, though your only justification was unsupported opinion, so forgive me if I don't put very much faith in your uninformed statements.
I will agree that Obama's stated economic policies are only marginally better for this country in the long term than McCain's. But his policies will take some of the disparity in the tax burden off the middle class get rid of some of the tax loops on the very wealthy. In the short run, those things will make a difference for the majority of people in this country. But in the long run, both men's policies do not do what needs to be done. You could not get elected if you said you were going to do what needed to be done. Look what happened to Ron Paul. American voters can't handle honesty or the truth.
There are, unfortunately, only two viable choices, and Obama is the more presidential of the two. He will be more of a statesmen, he's smarter, and I'd guess that if either man can handle and find a way to reverse the imminent financial collapse, it will be Obama. I don't honestly have faith he will be able to, but I give him far greater chances than McCain, who has benefited from lopsided, favor-the-rich policies since he was born.
On top of that McCain and Palin just scare me. McCain honestly looks to me like he's in the early stages of Alzheimers and is likely to be a puppet of the behind-the-scene people who are currently running this country into the ground. And Palin is the sort of scary faith-based thinker that this country just can't afford right now. I suspect both McCain and Palin are great people who I'd enjoy sitting down and chatting with (for a short period of time, and avoiding certain subjects), but this country is in crisis and we need someone who is really exceptional, not someone who is friendly or nice. Obama is an exceptional person, even though I don't agree with all of his policies, and since I have to bet, I'm going to bet on his ability to handle a crisis over McCain's, who has lots of experience, but all of it at being mediocre, at best. - inactive, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4McSame
- birdly, on 09/19/2008, -1/+4And yet one of his biggest campaign themes is about how Obama isn't running for the benefit of the country, he's just in it for himself!
They say you hate the traits of your enemies that most closely resemble your own. - SIRBERUS, on 09/19/2008, -4/+7Let's face it... McCain is the "Windows Vista" of political candidates.
A lot of hype at first, but in the end, a crash and burn fiasco.
And just like with Vista, all the supporters soon change their tune.
Also, just like Vista, I have a feeling McCain will be forced onto the public. -_- - birdly, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3Yeah, and Obama's such a hypocrite with that "Country First" slogan! Wait a minute.....
- absurdist, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3Obama isn't leading in the polls, oh blithering racist?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com - birdly, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3Don't worry, it'll be over in a month and a half. And the country will begin to heal.
- atomicfireball, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3Huh? What fantasy land do you live in? Obama stumbles around when he doesn't have a teleprompter? I guess we'll see how that plays out in the debates, won't we. The only candidates I've seen lately with deer-in-headlights stares when asked questions is McCain and Palin. And at least Obama was able to write his own acceptance speech and didn't have to rely on some party-machine speech writer to do it for him the way both McCain and Palin did. Go back to your hate-filled little fantasyland, please. Obama didn't get nominated because of racism, he got nominated in spite of it. He's had to listen to dittoheads who've never done anything talk about how he's never done anything... obviously those people either don't know or don't want to know the the significance of what he's done.
Obama wouldn't have been my first choice in this election - my first choice wouldn't have even been a Democrat, and I would have preferred a candidate with more experience, but between McCain and Obama, the choice is crystal clear. McCain was bottom of his class at Anapolis whereas Obama was top of his class at both Columbia and Harvard Law (and editor of the Law Review to boot, something you obviously don't understand the significance of) McCain is just another baby of privilege. He was given a spot in Anapolis he didn't deserve, taking the spot away from someone who did, because of his dad and granddad. He was then given a spot in flight school that he didn't deserve, taking a spot away from a deserving midshipman who worked hard for good grades. He then proceeded to prove that he shouldn't have been given that spot in flight school by getting shot down five times. Had his father and grandfather not both been four-star admirals, he wouldn't have been given his first plane, let alone continued to be given planes after continually ditching them and/or getting shot down. It sucks that he was a POW, but it's not like he didn't play a part in that happening. If he'd have gone on to be an Ensign on a frigate, which is what his accomplishments merited) instead of flight school, it's unlikely he would have ended up in a POW camp.
Sadly, the only reason that Obama isn't way ahead in this election is because he's black, and there are a lot of closet racists out there hiding their true feelings behind empty conservative talking points and oft-repeated, but never proven claims about his inexperience (which, conveniently, aren't applied to Sarah Palin's lack of experience by those same people). I'm tired of the vacuous double-standards and continuous lies. I wish you people would just admit that you won't vote for a black person. - JenniferInMO, on 09/20/2008, -0/+3You were never an Obama supporter and you never heard the whole comment. Good try, troll.
- richIsBored, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3I don't feel sorry for him. He's doing it to himself. He values victory over everything.
- jerrym123, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3So the wingnuts are back to the blame Clinton game? The first fact you got wrong is that Clinton did not take over from Reagan he defeated Bush one on a It's the Economy Stupid platform. Every time a Republican gets his hand on this countries check book for the past 100 years they have screwed it up that is a proven FACT.
- liuite, on 09/19/2008, -1/+3songs heard at a GOP karaoke event;
McCain: I'm out of touch, I'm out of touch...
Crowd: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies... - JenniferInMO, on 09/20/2008, -0/+2Uh, she wrote a book lauding him. If she is an undercover Dem in disguise that book is a hell of a cover.
- JenniferInMO, on 09/20/2008, -0/+2If he'd stop giving everyone so much to criticize it would stop.
- IphtashuFitz, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2Yoda was very wise. I trust his judgment regarding McCain.
- yisforyeti, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2The only thing more pathetic than your copy-and-paste spamming of that link is its actual content. Please grow up.
- frandayan, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2you are in good company
republicansforobama.org and take a look at this article by the editor of the most conservative magazine in the counrty...Nat'l Review
A Conservative for Obama
My party has slipped its moorings. It’s time for a true pragmatist to lead the country.
Leading Off By Wick Allison, Editor In Chief
THE MORE I LISTEN TO AND READ ABOUT “the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate,” the more I like him. Barack Obama strikes a chord with me like no political figure since Ronald Reagan. To explain why, I need to explain why I am a conservative and what it means to me.
In 1964, at the age of 16, I organized the Dallas County Youth for Goldwater. My senior thesis at the University of Texas was on the conservative intellectual revival in America. Twenty years later, I was invited by William F. Buckley Jr. to join the board of National Review. I later became its publisher.
Conservatism to me is less a political philosophy than a stance, a recognition of the fallibility of man and of man’s institutions. Conservatives respect the past not for its antiquity but because it represents, as G.K. Chesterton said, the democracy of the dead; it gives the benefit of the doubt to customs and laws tried and tested in the crucible of time. Conservatives are skeptical of abstract theories and utopian schemes, doubtful that government is wiser than its citizens, and always ready to test any political program against actual results.
Liberalism always seemed to me to be a system of “oughts.” We ought to do this or that because it’s the right thing to do, regardless of whether it works or not. It is a doctrine based on intentions, not results, on feeling good rather than doing good.
But today it is so-called conservatives who are cemented to political programs when they clearly don’t work. The Bush tax cuts—a solution for which there was no real problem and which he refused to end even when the nation went to war—led to huge deficit spending and a $3 trillion growth in the federal debt. Facing this, John McCain pumps his “conservative” credentials by proposing even bigger tax cuts. Meanwhile, a movement that once fought for limited government has presided over the greatest growth of government in our history. That is not conservatism; it is profligacy using conservatism as a mask.
Today it is conservatives, not liberals, who talk with alarming bellicosity about making the world “safe for democracy.” It is John McCain who says America’s job is to “defeat evil,” a theological expansion of the nation’s mission that would make George Washington cough out his wooden teeth.
This kind of conservatism, which is not conservative at all, has produced financial mismanagement, the waste of human lives, the loss of moral authority, and the wreckage of our economy that McCain now threatens to make worse.
Barack Obama is not my ideal candidate for president. (In fact, I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses.) But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don’t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama’s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.
Most important, Obama will be a realist. I doubt he will taunt Russia, as McCain has, at the very moment when our national interest requires it as an ally. The crucial distinction in my mind is that, unlike John McCain, I am convinced he will not impulsively take us into another war unless American national interests are directly threatened.
“Every great cause,” Eric Hoffer wrote, “begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” As a cause, conservatism may be dead. But as a stance, as a way of making judgments in a complex and difficult world, I believe it is very much alive in the instincts and predispositions of a liberal named Barack Obama.
Write to wicka@dmagazine.com
http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?nm=Core+Pa ...
Lisa - oldgal, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2There are many places where I have said I supported McCain. I don't think the fact that I don't say it with every post makes me a liar. I did a lot of research, made my choice, and I now support my choice. If that makes me a liar in your eyes, so be it. For a lefty lib, I certainly have voted for a lot of republicans in my lifetime. How many democrats have you voted for?
- glog, on 09/19/2008, -1/+2Article summary: McSame sold his soul for a chance to become president.
- thepoliticalcat, on 09/21/2008, -0/+1Is there anyone with a braincell left who supports McNutsky and the Caribou Barbie?
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