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- greenback1, on 10/10/2007, -12/+49Impeachment is proper because Bush/Cheney have a list of documented crimes against the nation. I know you must prefer rogue nation behavior, but here in America, we pride ourselves on the rule of law. Finally, you are very strange fellow for trying to label the impeachment movement as a bunch of crazies when there are substantiated grounds for it. Also, the impeachment of Cheney or Bush will be is very, very fast. It will not disrupt or distract from the important business of passing nonbinding resolutions and holding all-night gripe sessions over bills destined to be vetoed. Impeachment in the case of Dick Cheney need not take the three months it did for Nixon or the two months it did for President Bill Clinton. In fact, it could take a day. Here’s why:
Bush and Cheney’s lies about Iraqi ties to al Qaeda are on videotape and in writing, and Bush and Cheney continue to make them to this day. There was no al Qaeda in Iraq until the invasion.
Their claims about Iraqi weapons have been shown in every detail to have been, not mistakes, but lies.
Their threats to Iran are on videotape.
Bush being warned about Katrina and claiming he was not, all on videotape.
Bush lying about illegal spying and later confessing to it are on videotape. A federal court has ruled that spying to be a felony.
The Supreme Court has ruled Bush and Cheney’s system of detentions unconstitutional.
Torture, openly advocated for by Bush and Cheney and their staffs, is documented by victims, witnesses, and public photographs. Torture was always illegal and has been repeatedly recriminalized under Bush and Cheney. Bush has reversed laws with signing statements.
Those statements are posted on the White House website, and a GAO report found that with 30 percent of Bush’s signing statements in which he announces his right to break laws, he has in fact proceeded to break those laws.
For these and many other offenses, no investigation is needed because no better evidence is even conceivable. This impeachment will be swift. And it will require only a simple majority. We already know that the Democrats can vote as a block if they want to, and that a few brave Republicans might join them.
Whether the Senate will then convict Cheney will depend on how much pressure citizens apply and how much information the House manages to force onto television sets. The latter could be surprisingly large and substantive, since the conflict of an impeachment is certain to generate incredible ratings.
(source:afterdowningstreet) - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+26Kucinich 08!
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19Kucinich, unlike any other Dem candidate, practices what he preaches. If you support Kucinich but don't want to "waste your vote," I reccomend donating to his campaign even if you don't intend to vote for him in the general election.
- BelXul, on 10/10/2007, -7/+18It's like peeling an onion. First Gonzo, then Karl and Harriet, then Dick... Anyone care to guess where it goes from there? Seriously, every time someone opens an investigation into these guys, more dirt comes to light. Why do people still support them?
- reed311, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12But, the Terry Schiavo disaster, Clinton Impeachment, flag burning amendment, and gay marriage amendment ban, were a great use of time/money.
- JasonQG, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12If everybody who said things like that put their support behind who they really believe in, these supposed "fringe" candidates might not be such a long shot.
- aTTicus78, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13Kucinich has my support! I've signed the petition, I've signed the Congressional Record that's being used to collect signatures of citizens to be presented to Congress each day, I've also faxed AND sent letters to his three offices.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." ~ Thomas Jefferson - carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -8/+14now give me a link to any impeachment petitions you can so i can try to sign them all.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Just like truth is to a libtard.
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10Your analogy to Clinton is retarded because A) Clinton didn't invade Iraq and B) Clinton didn't have the CIA, UN, spies in Iraq, Iraqi scientists, and weapons inspectors, ALL TELLING HIM THERE WERE NO WMDS. And Al Gore did not set up an office in the White House (OSP) tasked with editing the aforementioned information ("fixing the facts to fit the policy") before it was sent to Congress and the press.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8I'm voting for Kucinich. I refuse to let the media decide who is the "lead candidate" based upon money -- which is an indication of how many businesses have invested in the candidate. What do they expect in return?
This Business and PAC money to candidates shouldn't even be legal... and being legal doesn't make things right. - RuffRidr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That usually happens when looking in the rear view mirror.
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7What makes you think Congress has access to the same intel that the President has? Congress has access to the intel the president says they can have, just like the rest of us. GJ bringing up Clinton though, that'll sure show them librulls.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4WRONG.
Congress has access to the EXACT same intelligence the President has. - karel747, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Congratulations for being added to the No Fly List.
- Infinite84, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4You're right that Clinton was almost or just as bad as Bush & Cheney but that's not a reason not to impeach Bush & Cheney for their crimes!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Well at least you agree on the patriot act and the two headed monster. What you fail to understand is the similarity played between Iraq and the US when it concerns the WMD's in Iraq. If you actually read Clinton's words, you'd see it, but denial is king here on Digg and in the loony left world. A is a fallacy, because Clinton did invade Iraq, but only in the air and bombing objectives in the country. B is also a fallacy because bush did not have people (everyone) saying there were no WMD's there. The same inspector games that were played during the Clinton administration were being played during the Bush administration. Again, denial at work, the sheep's way.
- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4What is it with you "non-delusional fanatics" and your ad hominem attacks?
- slicedoranges, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5Kucinich is looking better and better.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5There are a few other offenses that are DIRECT abuses of power that would require impeachment (the Constitution requires it, that is):
Dereliction of Duty; On 9/11/2001, Cheney was in a bunker and couldn't be reached, or if he could he ordered planes to "stand down" that is, not shoot down an airliner headed for the WTC. Perhaps the one flight were people regained control WAS shot down -- regardless, neither the President nor Vice President can account for why they did not assume command during an emergency. Reading a book to calm school kids is NOT part of the President's responsibilities.
Constitutionally abusing his oath to uphold the constitution. The removal of Habeus Corpus by fiat and not a plurality of states ratifying a change to the constitution shows that this President is a threat to the laws this country is founded on.
Abusing his power for political gain. I think you could write a book on all the instances he has done this and many have.
Signing statements, so broadly contradicting bills by congress, challenges separation of powers.
Using Executive Privilege to thwart Constitutionally mandated oversight on his office. It is not a right, nor is it a get out of jail free card.
And again, I could add about a dozen more items to this list. I think a comprehensive list would take pages. - mako, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Where is the pettition? I would sign to have them both impeached.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6http://impeachcheney.org/
- zorroplata, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Ho hum. Anybody who thinks that the public will go along with tying the Congress up in knots for the next year to attempt (unsuccessfully, of course) to impeach Bush is living in a dream world. The man has committed no crimes (other than those in the minds of delusional fanatics) and could not possibly be impeached. Why go through all of this agony when the man is leaving next year anyway?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7So do we get to impeach all the democrats that have access to the same intel that bush had? Do we get to impeach all the democrats that said things about Iraq in the past that Bush repeated? Clinton, Gore, Kerry, etc. If you think Bush is the mastermind behind some evil plot, you're an idiot and need to wake up. Look up Clinton's comments on Iraq. They are almost word for word the same thing Bush was saying. WAKE UP!
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4"delusional fanatics" = ~54% of America.
- Stevanoski, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4I could never be a Demoncrat too much hate.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Now THAT's funny!
- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3And Ron Paul isn't a totally hopeless cause?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7Impeach what? Iraq war? Look up Bill Clinton's comments on Iraq during his administration, and when he was bombing them (yes Clinton bombed Iraq too), and you will see they are almost word for word, WMDs and all. (I.E. - http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/ ). Patriot Act? Do you know how many people in Congress, democrat and republican voted for this law? Powers were given to the executive branch by the legislative, they should be held accountable for their actions. Why does no one on the left address this? The sheep here on digg are so blinded by the propaganda machine of the left to hate Bush/Cheney that they fail to see that both parties are a complete joke and interested in one thing, power. The democrats and republicans are different heads on the same monster. If you are a hardcore socialist/marxist, then this will fall on deaf ears, but if not....Wake the ***** up people!
- sabach, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2The more I think about this the more I consider a general strike to be a grand-standing toothless threat. I say go to work and contribute the $ you earn that day to the candidate who most closely represents your position.
- sabach, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2People like you make it reality.
- adri3nn3, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4http://www.impeachbush.org/
- mstoneburner, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5I'll vote for Kucinich if he let's me nail his wife in the pooper.
- fezzen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Iraq had bombs when Clinton was president.
They no longer had them during any part of Bush's presidency, as evidenced by UN inspector reports saying they had been destroyed and the programs ended. In 1993.
Why is this so difficult for you ***** republicans to understand?
And no, I don't belong to a political party, because I prefer to think for myself on issues I consider important. I don't blame you for disagreeing, it's at least in line with your comments. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Ok,I signed it,and forwarded the info to friends who are like-minded.
let's go Diggers! Flay the bastard! - fezzen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Um... wrong?
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/118489654058910.xml&coll=7
Ask yourself: Where does Congress GET the intel from? I mean, realistically, what has to happen? They ask for it. Who do they ask? The executive branch.
Any person the legislative could possibly ask for intel from is, in at least some way, reporting primarily to the President. - cashea, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0One word zorroplata...... Justice
- sabach, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1She is nice.
- sabach, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Political dissent is never a waste of time, it serves to put the scumbags on notice that we're watching & waiting....
- notque, on 10/10/2007, -9/+7General Strike on 9/11/07 to show our anger at the war in Iraq, and this administration.
Digg my #1. Thanks. - wishninja, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4What wrong having trouble getting the bush stickers off your bumper? You voted for them and you are just as responsible as they are.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1http://piv.pivpiv.dk/
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1And usually a lot of of crying. But never from the onion.
- Infinite84, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4I say support Kucinich in impeaching Cheney/Bush but support Paul for President
- slicedoranges, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Well, him or Gravel anyway. I'd flip a coin at this point, but at least it's come that far.
- VBDon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Maybe, someday, Kucinich will create a site seeing attraction. He'll take all the signed impeach Bush petitions and charge people a nickle to see the World's Largest Pile of B*llSh*t.
- deathproof, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1I spent 4th of July with Kucinich it was awesome!
- sabach, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2So how many times do you need to be fooled before you admit you've been a fool? The denial here is denying that Plan A is not working so escalate Plan A some more. And doing it ineptly. Sorry, the sheep going to slaughter is not me.
- shaggytoker, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0Some HOPE! These people have already caused irreparable damage, but they need to be impeached...
- bigjimslade, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2This is a story? Wow, the next time a bear takes a dump in the woods I'll post a story on DIGG.
Kucinich and Paul have less of a chance at winning the presidency as John McCain.
Keep on trying, pinheads. -
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