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- freedomjoe, on 04/16/2009, -31/+85Oh, yeah -- Typical Fox *****.
Bookmarking this one. They never did get the real number.... - mediablitz, on 04/16/2009, -30/+78Have we reached the point yet where Fox can be sued for claiming to be "fair and balanced"? At what point can they be nailed for false advertising?
- paintgrl, on 04/16/2009, -34/+72Makes me sad there were 5000 people suckered in to going to these teabag astro turf farces.
- niradg, on 04/16/2009, -20/+54Nate Silver has an estimate of 110k for the whole country. In other words, the tea parties had a turnout similar to a University of Michigan football game
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/04/how-many-at ... - TheJimid, on 04/16/2009, -24/+56Huckabee just claimed there were millions, but I don't think lies will save the titanic disaster that is the republican party.
- novenator, on 04/16/2009, -25/+57I checked out the one in Carson City, NV today, and there were easily less than 100 there. Fox News will likely claim 1000 in attendance.
- inactive, on 04/16/2009, -30/+61Jed got this one up mighty quick. And it's a dozy.
- dygel, on 04/16/2009, -10/+31That was a comeback with all the grandeur and posture of calling him a "fat doo-doo head."
- upstream1, on 04/16/2009, -13/+34interview in my local newspaper,
- what are you protesting?
= government waste
- give me an example,
= all them bailouts and wall street nonsense
- so you believe the government should have allowed the major banks to fail
= well no, but give me a break, I say throw them all out of office.
Phillipsburg, PA.
thanks for the revolutionary message tea baggers. - CSimonds, on 04/16/2009, -13/+34The problem is Fox and the Neo-cons hijacked the TEA party. It was supposed to be non-partisan. It wasn't supposed to be anti-DEM or anti-GOP. It was about government waste and corruption. Something that BOTH the Democrats and Republicans can agree about. However, CNN slanted it to be a bunch of Obama-bashing right-wing Republicans. Then when Sean Insanity, Gov Rick Perry and Fox News jumped on the bandwagon it suddenly became a lost cause (which is EXACTLY what they wanted). The tea party coordinators should have NEVER allowed them to be a part of it. I am sure they allowed it because they wanted exposure. But it changed it from being non-partisan to the impression that it was a crowd of unhappy, Obama-hating neocons. The message, of course, got lost in all the BS from the two networks.
- razorc03, on 04/16/2009, -8/+28Baton Rouge, LA: between 1000-3000 - http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/43082442.html
Houston Texas: 4000 in attendance - http://www.click2houston.com/news/19187364/detail. ...
Salt Lake City, UT: 1200 - http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,70529766 ...
Denver, CO - More than 5000 - http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12147073
New York City - more than 5000 - http://wcbstv.com/national/anti.tax.protest.2.9861 ...
Atlanta, GA - a whopping 15,000! - http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/19184864/detail.htm ...
None of these sources are Fox News. - inactive, on 04/16/2009, -16/+34FOX_MESSAGE_BOARDS_NOW_OPEN_TO_ALL!!!!!
Just kidding!
Fox doesn't have message boards.
They don't want people discussing things in public.
The truth might slip out. - imnojezus, on 04/16/2009, -11/+28a) The teabaggers called themselves teabaggers. Olbermann just ran with it.
b) There were thousands of peaceable anti-war/anti-Bush protests in America over the years - Fox News only reported on the violent moments, which is why I suspect you imply that that's the only way those protests ended. Having been involved in 10 or so such protests over the last 4 years, I can tell you that violence isn't common, and the people who are really trying to have their voices heard despise those kinds of actions. I'm not sure the people calling for secession and revolution feel the same way.
c) The greater answer is no, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News have no journalistic credibility whatsoever. Try CSPAN or NPR for real reporting. - curiousaboutit, on 04/16/2009, -12/+29These tea parties are so unrepresentative of how we all feel. I wish everyday that I can give more and more money to this effective government. All my happiness derives from their caressing hand. I am so grateful. Why do people argue with obvious, our government knows what it's doing. We must have trust and loyalty. Stand up and recite the pledge. It is un-american to do otherwise.
- boo1, on 04/16/2009, -10/+27As a Canadian who follows your politics very closely, I find these tea parties disingenuous at best. It is not to say the people are not sincere in their beliefs. It is disingenuous in my beliefs because they are years late in these protests.
I want to know how many of them wrote their congressman and protested the 3 trillion estimated spent on the failed policy which is Iraq? Don't think it failed? Who is now the powerhouse in the region? Iran!
Regional conflicts are just that. Regional;.
If any of you wish to tell this Canadian to stay out of your business, then I must tell you to stay out of other nations business.
Seriously, 3 trillion of your tax dollars have been spent doing this.
And when your economy has tumbled over the cliff, and the majority says stop the madness, the American right stands up and says, "hey you guys on the left are taking us over a cliff."
Guess what, .......the bus went over the cliff along time ago....you have been partying in the back and not paying attention!..... - novenator, on 04/16/2009, -14/+30Fox will never give the real number, but what will be interesting is to see how inflated right wing organizations and broadcasters numbers actually are. Will they dare say 1 million?
- mark925, on 04/16/2009, -19/+35Oh Faux News....never change.
- normlsparky, on 04/16/2009, -18/+34The close camera shots speak volumes. Where are all the wide angle shots sweeping across the masses?
- DiscoUnderpants, on 04/16/2009, -4/+20By fair they mean that have a light complexion. By Balanced it means the sudtio has yet to fall over.
- The_Wallbanger, on 04/16/2009, -11/+26After dumping tea in parks or rivers, who is supposed to clean it up? Certainly not municipal workers paid by.. taxes?!?
- mark925, on 04/16/2009, -11/+26Considering Nate's history with numbers and estimating, I'm more likely to believe him on that than any Faux News pundit.
- pintomp3, on 04/16/2009, -4/+19or for claiming to be news.
- edcro, on 04/16/2009, -6/+21Remember the good old days, when hundreds of thousands of people protesting the Iraq War on the National Mall barely merited a mention on Fox?
- atvigesaa, on 04/16/2009, -8/+21Fox may not have set them up, but why would they lie about numbers if they're only "covering" the story?
Fox had an agenda at hand in this and it was to bolster the partisan Obama bashing, they didn't care about tax protests in the least. If they did they would have covered this while it was going on while Clinton or Bush were in office. This is just sour grapes about Obama getting elected and the conservatives are hijacking a protest that will get them news coverage and a soapbox to spit on the new administration from.
If you wanna see real grassroots protesting look up some of the protests from the last 10 years on April 15th. They're a lot smaller, but at least it's not Astroturf. - MrFunStuff, on 04/16/2009, -10/+22Tea parties are non-partisan. Fox news just tried to take it over when it became popular. Most tea parties Iv been too protested Bush's and Obama's over spending.
- wopr21, on 04/16/2009, -1/+13Dont think the networks got the "Million man march" count right either.
- inactive, on 04/16/2009, -8/+20Good info. Of course, Obama got 100,000 people to show up at a single rally last year.
- inactive, on 04/16/2009, -11/+23And Olbermann has been inflating his ratings for years as well, "smashing O'Reilly and Fox News" right, keep on dreaming Keith.
- joeditto, on 04/16/2009, -21/+32Caught this report Live.....luv'd it..
@mediablitz...At what point can they be nailed for false advertising?
I always wondered the same thing, but I'm beginning to lean for allowing them to continue, b/c I believe they will bury themselves with their activities of distorting the truth.
It appears the majority of the public are smart enough to see right thru their BS..
I know the HARD CORE WingNUTS will be influnced & will never change their minds, but they are in the minority. - chriskzoo, on 04/16/2009, -41/+52Do MSNBC and CNN even have any journalistic credibility any more? Yes, Fox was pumping up the tea parties, and some of them were pretty large, like San Antonio and Atlanta - but that's beside the point. Was Cavuto right for sayign "double" or "triple" that amount? Probably not, but his staffer told him "5,000 at least."
It really shows how low of a denominator CNN and MSNBC are willing to go when they have resorted to calling peaceful protestors "tea baggers" like middle school kids who just heard the term for the first time. Think about that for a second - they're supposedly world class journalists and they're commenting on things like an anonymous Digg user. Murrow and Kronkite would be appalled.
You know what I didn't see at these protests? People throwing rocks at police, smashing windows and cars and getting tear gassed. It was a perfect example of peaceable protest as is encouraged by our Constitution. - inactive, on 04/16/2009, -7/+18I went to a small anti-tax protest down here in Amish country. Maybe 100 people. I'm glad to see people out here protesting all of Obama's corporate welfare spending but its a shame there wasn't this many people protesting when Bush was President when he was increasing the size of government more than any president in history. Its funny how many people believe that its ONLY the Democrats who are the big spenders.
- sprNmgcHlmt, on 04/16/2009, -10/+21i bet your were just fine with the last 8 years werent' you?
putz. - FakeHipster, on 04/16/2009, -7/+18Anyone catch his last phrase?
"A vas deferens in turn out"
Or maybe I just have balls on the mind. - novenator, on 04/16/2009, -12/+22This far less than what the organizers had hoped for, although they will likely try to elevate their numbers by quite a bit.
- CaptCarrot, on 04/16/2009, -14/+24Put me right to sleep. A dozy indeed.
- chriskzoo, on 04/16/2009, -6/+16LOL, watch the video of that CNN hack interviewing a protestor and his 2-year old in Chicago. I've never seen a more dismissive reporter in my life, berating the the guy for being unemployed and saying "Do you know you qualify for a $400 credit!?" and then saying the protests were anti-CNN.
- BuzzFriendly, on 04/16/2009, -7/+16One asshat yelling at another. This is news?
- upstream1, on 04/16/2009, -9/+18I attempted to debate some people on ABC and RCP,
they had 0 answers to real solutions, they just wanted
to keep all of their money and said silly slogans reffering back
to historical days, you know in the early 1800's when society was awesome!
I had to suggest over a period of time that perhaps
a line item veto would help, but once again they had
no response to problem of executive self legislation.
Tea Parties, 09, they happened,
and now for weather. - macfanboi, on 04/16/2009, -6/+15The real ***** is, where was Faux News' 'big' government outrage the last 8 years? Now that their candidate isn't in office they need to rally support against 'big' government.
- orion846, on 04/16/2009, -4/+13i remember seeing a digg commentor in one of these relevant threads a few days ago claim there'd be 150 million
- mithrasinvictus, on 04/16/2009, -7/+16I hope they wasted money on helicopters too.
- inactive, on 04/16/2009, -6/+15I said this in another thread and I'll repeat it here:
The irony in all this is that the Tea Parties are people who want the government to stop the out of control spending that would finally prove if Keynesian economics work. But the ***** Keynesians prefer to keep calling them teabaggers. Go figure. - imnojezus, on 04/16/2009, -3/+11Nope Synbios. I meant NPR. Try listening to the news on it just once. It's the premier example of journalistic integrity in this country. They put real reporters in the field, they don't inject opinion, they collect every detail ad nauseum, and they immediately retract incorrect information - down to the smallest detail.
And chriskzoo, yes... CNN has a MASSIVE inferiority complex. Fox and MSNBC don't handle the news any better. - Vermifax, on 04/16/2009, -15/+23FAIL. Thanks for playing.
- teebird, on 04/16/2009, -9/+17The close camera shots were a good thing. They gave us a good look at all the ugly, racist, and just plain knuckleheaded sloganeering on the tee shirts and placards so we'd know just how far over the edge some of the "protesters" really were.
- FreddieD, on 04/16/2009, -2/+10curunir, for all of your bitching, the funny thing is that if they re-ran the election today Obama would have beaten McCain by an even wider margin.
Everybody is a critic of the president, but the fact is that if this economy turns around and is on a good upward slope by 2012, any republican challenger is going to get slaughtered in the re-election Reagen-Mondale style. - teebird, on 04/16/2009, -2/+10No...I meant sloganeering like continuing to push the idiotic conspiracy theories about Obama being a "socialist," "fascist," "communist," "Arab," or "Muslim." Or the loonies who still insist, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that he's not a citizen and therefore ineligible to be President..
Then there were the signs with the thinly veiled suggestions that he be lynched, not to mention all the standard racial slurs, either verbal or graphic..
I meant that kind of sloganeering. - mithrasinvictus, on 04/16/2009, -0/+8Come on, this is the internet, use links.
Here's an example of a link to a video of Cavuto claiming " millions concerned", comparing the fox news tea party to the million men march and then making fun of it for not having a million protesters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UThpJCxzSYY&eur ... - wascheer, on 04/16/2009, -17/+25Slight problem with the DailyKos story ... I was there. It's impossible to lie about something like this to someone who was there. There were easily 10,000 people there or more at one point. I have no idea when Cavuto was on the air, but I know what 5,000 and 10,000 people look like, as I've seen enough crowds of that number here at the capitol in Sacramento. Like or not diggers, Cavuto's estimate was mostly accurate.
- freedomjoe, on 04/16/2009, -29/+36Fox. They're becoming so ridiculous, they're like the National Enquirer but without the investigative reporting that NE does now. Any day now I expect to see "Bald alien gives birth to Obama's birth certificate! And Fascism was born!"
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