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- acroyear2, on 12/26/2007, -4/+69Here's his email: kobachk@umkc.edu
Let him know what you think... Share the holiday spirit... - janeuner, on 12/26/2007, -2/+67For those who are new to this term:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caging_list - mulling, on 12/26/2007, -4/+52If there's one thing that scares Republicans, it's democracy.
- pintomp3, on 12/26/2007, -3/+43our "democracy" in action. voter caging. diebold machines. voter pruning. still we have the audacity to promote "democracy" around the world.
- PATSCRU, on 12/26/2007, -2/+41Why is the GOP so afraid of people voting?
Why email this guy when we can email the authorities? - nitrusoxyde, on 12/26/2007, -2/+36Just reported to WIBW Channel 13 in Topeka, KS - who informed me that they advised a producer and requested that I email them the link...which I did
- Spectre74, on 12/26/2007, -3/+28These people, those "elite", will do damn near anything, legal or not, to gain power. Once again, I am surprised, but far from shocked. I have lost all faith in the election process as a whole. The manipulation of minds and votes seems to have no barriers.
- apathysucks, on 12/26/2007, -3/+23Wow, just wow... Let's see if we can't get him put in the "cage".
- bowens44, on 12/26/2007, -5/+24Republicans can't compete in the arena of ideas , that's why they steal elections.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -2/+17What the ***** is wrong with you?
- bulkhater, on 12/26/2007, -3/+16If you were to produce proof as obvious as this, I'm sure FOX would make it the #1 headline for the next two months.
- Ndiggnation, on 12/26/2007, -3/+16B-b-b-b-ut, DEMOCRATS!!...that makes it ok, right?
- greenm1981, on 12/26/2007, -2/+14It violates the Voter's Rights Act of 1965.
- BurntToast, on 12/26/2007, -3/+15Ah... great, was just about to ask what "caging" meant. Thanks!
- breckinshire, on 12/26/2007, -3/+12Making fun of crippled children is also not illegal, but I wouldn't brag about doing it.
- iDiggIt42, on 12/26/2007, -0/+8The only thing that would hook up with you is your hand. And it'd even need convincing.
- jaymzdean, on 12/26/2007, -1/+9But I'm sure by "cage", he actually meant, "get all of the firemen out of the building".
- Ndiggnation, on 12/26/2007, -2/+10Carry on, my wayward son..
- deadowl, on 12/26/2007, -3/+10Too bad we can't cage idiots. Then there wouldn't be any Republican votes.
- morningmatters, on 12/26/2007, -2/+9Caging targets for the most part are minorities, and that's why the court and election officials have been rejecting it for years. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A742 ...
Even if you don't have much common sense there is one simple reasons why caging should be illegal, it discriminates against the homeless who the last time I checked still have the rights to vote. - mb33139, on 12/26/2007, -0/+7I believe he is comparing her technique to his own.
- neognostic, on 12/26/2007, -4/+11Jumping through a few extra hoops is exactly why this is illegal. The poor and disadvantaged, who still have the right to vote, don't have access or accessibility to jump through those few extra hoops. That is why it is discriminatory. SInce caging is done primarily in southern states, where a disaportianate majority of the poor are minorities makes this illegal.
- timla, on 12/26/2007, -7/+13I do not see how they draw the direct conclusion that it is illegal?
The Wiki linked to above talks briefly about how it may be illegal if it is racially targeted, but that does not mean it is inherently illegal. It may be immoral, it may be heinous, it may be alot of things, but so far I have not seen how this case is illegal.
To end this pretty quick, they should just employ a 3 strikes rule, In any given election once a party loses 3 challenges in any voting district they are no longer able to challenge within that district for that election. - apeweek, on 12/27/2007, -0/+6I don't care who's doing it. If you have evidence of Democrats, Republicans, or anybody else interfering with elections, air it all out. Don't tell me it doesn't matter because 'everyone does it'. Interfering with free and fair elections is my definition of treason.
- Depthfunction, on 12/26/2007, -1/+7Those are all very good points. Thanks for contributing to the discussion!
- jgzman, on 12/27/2007, -1/+7I am in favor of busing in the homeless to vote, as long as they are not pressured to vote for a particular candidate. (Yea, I know. Fat Chance) The homeless are people too, and deserve a voice in the running of the country.
This assumes, however, that any of us have a voice, which I sincerely doubt. - jonmlm, on 12/26/2007, -1/+7seriously?
- MacEnvy, on 12/26/2007, -0/+5Yes I did, and it comes up with numerous examples of the RNC doing it, and occasionally being bought to court and being bitch-slapped for trying to disenfranchise minority voters.
Did YOU Google it before typing that? - inactive, on 12/27/2007, -1/+6VOTE CAGING IS ILLEGAL
- sj200, on 12/27/2007, -0/+5lay your weary to to rest . .
- Ndiggnation, on 12/26/2007, -5/+10What he clearly meant was "engaged more voters", and of course the Outlook spell and grammer checker just didn't catch it, or something..uh uh..look over there, that guy used to be a DRUG DEALER, and his name sounds like Osama Bin Laden, and he went to a madrassa!! Look over there!!!
- banmaster, on 12/26/2007, -0/+5So long as we can lock it and toss it into a river.
- Lynxpro, on 12/27/2007, -1/+6See the 1960 Presidential Election as to why they "fear" all of the previously mentioned. Or...the 2004 Presidential Election where the homeless were bussed to the polls to vote with promises of cigarettes.
It cuts both ways, but a lot of people forget that...especially the media. - l0k0, on 12/27/2007, -0/+4don't you cry no more...
*guitar solo* - cherwilco, on 12/27/2007, -1/+5"Voter caging is a practice of sending mass direct mailings to registered voters by non-forwardable mail, then compiling lists of voters, called “caging lists,” from the returned mail in order to formally challenge their right to vote on that basis alone. Other methods, such as database matching, have been used more recently to compile voter caging lists. The practice is used almost exclusively by officials or members of the Republican Party, local and national."
source:
http://projectvote.org/issues/voter-caging.html
I dont really care if it is legal or not. it directly undermines democracy and is a slimy tactic to "loophole" their way into winning elections. - Dumbledorito, on 12/27/2007, -0/+4Given that the goal is eliminating voters (and I'm pretty sure Kobach didn't use GOP mailing lists) by giving them extra paperwork to do, this is most certainly dirty pool and not borne of some high ethical standards as pertains to voting. You're completely naieve or partisan if you think otherwise.
- breckinshire, on 12/26/2007, -1/+5There'll be peace when you are done.
- inactive, on 12/27/2007, -1/+5BUT BUT CLINTON!!!
- oldhick, on 12/26/2007, -2/+5Has anyone ever been found guilty of caging? The wikipedia just links to some cases without conclusions... Its also unclear on exactly what law is being violated and how. I think it SHOULD be illegal and is certainly immoral, but when you claim on a blog that its illegal, I for one would like to see some documentation on this.
- neognostic, on 12/26/2007, -1/+4Please only site your local situation. What happens in your local area is not representative of the entire nation, or there wouldn't be multiple lawsuits against this practice. I've lived in the South for 30 years, and trust me, the local registration clerks "research" involves "sorry, can't halp you here, etc." Last time I voted they couldn't even point me to the correct machine to vote on until I told them it was incorrect.
- cherwilco, on 12/27/2007, -0/+3nicely played! Straight from the Republican Playbook. Attack the source and or the messenger whilst COMPLETELY AVOIDING THE TOPIC.
- bxblox, on 12/27/2007, -0/+3if it floats he's a witch and we'll burn him at the stake
- unearth, on 12/27/2007, -0/+3Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think I still was a mad man
I hear the voices when I'm dreaming
I can hear them say...
C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER - JDParshall, on 12/27/2007, -0/+3Done.
- morningmatters, on 12/26/2007, -1/+4I have not assumed anything, the court had reached this conclusion many times already after reviewing more evidence and heard from both sides. To be honest, if the GOP wants to waste money and gather evidence which will be rejected by election officials anyway they should try it, but bragging about it and then acting like it's legit will only backfire.
- Lynxpro, on 12/27/2007, -0/+3I don't think you have it totally correct. The GOP - and other groups - challenge the address if the letter is returned to their offices undelivered...with such terms as "forwarding order expired", "moved left no address" (MLNA), etc. The PBS program NOW ran a story on this a month or so ago...
- fakekevinrose, on 12/27/2007, -2/+5can the republicans just go 1 week without a scandal
- kreneskyp, on 12/27/2007, -0/+3Here I'll help you out: how many wrongs make a right?
- Lynxpro, on 12/27/2007, -1/+4An AK? How un-American. Maybe M-4's or M-16's.
- Lynxpro, on 12/27/2007, -1/+4Try reading the book "Votescam". It was written before the problems of the 2000 Election and before anyone had really any thoughts about Diebold. According to that book, IBM said in the 1970s that the vote tabulation business was too ethically challenged to get involved with.
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