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- krellor, on 07/15/2009, -14/+65I don't agree with the article saying that what she said is ok. She claims that she was trying to imitate O'Connor, which is bull. O'Connor said that men and women make equally good judges. Sotomayor says that a Latina women would make a better decision than a white man. There is a big difference from saying hey, I'm Latino, I have a different background and history to draw on, so do you, we will both make good judges, and saying, hey I'm a Latino women so I will make wiser decisions. I don't know if I would call her racist or not, but definitely conceited. I don't think she has any more or less of an agenda than any other Supreme Court nominee, but I don't know that I'm comfortable with someone who is either dumb enough to publicly make those remarks, or conceited enough to believe them and not think there is anything wrong with them sitting on the Supreme Court and setting case law for the whole country.
- khfn, on 07/15/2009, -8/+54*sigh* Why did she have to involve race here?
- inactive, on 07/15/2009, -5/+45I could be wrong but the issue would be that if a white male said the equivalent then he would be labeled a racist and ruined but the fact that a hispanic woman said it makes it some how okay. I don't really see the big deal as she was talking to crowds of women/minorities at the time and said it in an attempt to inspire, but using that to inspire is wrong on several levels. At least thats what NPR has been telling me for the past two days.
- markgl, on 07/15/2009, -29/+62I don't like her for a supreme court nominee.
- mparker21311, on 07/15/2009, -4/+32"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.
More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct our sins, we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty."
-Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html - mparker21311, on 07/15/2009, -4/+29Remember when the Democrats bashed Ron Paul supporters specifically because of racism?
Funny how those same Democrats are supporting this woman. - Scrappy1850, on 07/15/2009, -10/+33because she only sees people as colors.
- drmangrum, on 07/15/2009, -10/+33Because she's racist.
- TheBifman, on 07/15/2009, -2/+25I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a latina woman who hasn't lived that life.
Anything wrong with what I said? - charm803, on 07/15/2009, -1/+23I'm glad I'm not in politics. I am always saying "I'm an American first, a Latina second."
I don't know how many of my Latino & Latina friends have thrown a fit over that one. Apparently, I'm white washed and a sell out, but at least I speak Spanish fluently. - akchrs, on 07/15/2009, -4/+26I just don't like her second amendment positions.
"In Maloney v. Cuomo, Sotomayor signed an opinion of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit that said the Second Amendment does not protect individuals from having their right to keep and bear arms restricted by state governments." - plunderphonics, on 07/15/2009, -6/+27I love how this article tries to make it seem like her opponents "created" this phrase. She is a racist that believes a latina woman is better at making decisions than white men.
What if the phrase was reversed? The person in question would not have even been a nominee. - MatlasK, on 07/15/2009, -11/+31It means she has Taco Flavored Kisses.
- pathouston22, on 07/15/2009, -2/+21The whole confirmation hearings are BS. She'll lie to get the appointment. She flip flopped on the 2nd amendment. All politicians lie to get power: president, senate, house, and supreme court.
- LinuxPerson, on 07/15/2009, -1/+19If a white male supreme court nominee said, "white males have better judgment than Latino woman" there would be mass public accusations of racism. Hell there would probably be violent protests and riots in every major city across the county.
Stop with the double standard. - plunderphonics, on 07/15/2009, -1/+18You are an uninformed fool.
Sotomayor is a self-proclaimed racist, and you think it is a non-issue.
You think it is more important to get back to fixing an unfixable climate phase.
You should go to college..or go back to college. - sv650touring, on 07/15/2009, -1/+17Lots of people think that white males are literally the only people capable of real racism.
see: antiracistaction.org - drmangrum, on 07/15/2009, -1/+17You can blame the hard-line liberals for people identifying as race first and nationality second. They pressed the issue that everyone is "special" and that all groups should be recognized, etc,etc. It really irritates me when I see someone identify themselves with a hyphenate.
Latin-American
African-American
Italian-American
It all needs to go. Either you're an American or not. Somewhere along the line, people got the idea that the only people that are supposed to label themselves without a hyphenate are white people. And that floors me. - ohplease, on 07/15/2009, -4/+19The more we focus on race the more racial divisions we create.
- Criator, on 07/15/2009, -5/+19come on people... the lady upheld a decision that basically said a group of firefighters (primarily white) would not be eligible for promotion they earned via taking a test because no black firefighters earned the same scores. Reverse racism at it's best.
Now imagine that this group of firefighters was made up entirely of minorities and tell them that they will not be awarded their promotions because no Caucasians were able to earn the same scores.
I don't know about you but it sounds like racism to me. - majortom1981, on 07/15/2009, -16/+30She said she makes better decisions then a white male not just in certain instances but in every instance. That is why what she said is wrong.
- krellor, on 07/15/2009, -7/+20Potential flaws in a supreme court justice is a non-issue? I am glad that both parties apply great scrutiny to any nominations so as to prevent bias on one side or the other. Don't get me wrong, I thing certain media outlets need to find a new story, but I'm glad that she was brought to task by the committee for what she said.
- RudeTurnip, on 07/15/2009, -1/+14One of the senators at the hearing yesterday basically told her in an indirect manner that if other people had made the comment she did, they wouldn't have gotten this far.
- DrVic, on 07/15/2009, -3/+16Because that is how she got nominated.
- heybigjohn, on 07/15/2009, -0/+12@jba: It's more than just admitting that her background may influence her positions the way Alito did. Instead, I think most people are caught up on the "better" word which implies that she thinks her background is not just different, but superior.
- asunesara, on 07/15/2009, -1/+13I'm confused. You state markgl made a baseless statement. But on what base are you contending that he did not do his research?
Could it be that he disagrees even after he has educated himself? Noooooooo! Dear sir, what's wrong with dissent? I suggest you offer at least some sort of rebuttal with an unbaseless claim if you want to be a jerk. - Scrappy1850, on 07/15/2009, -0/+12@jba - no one is upset that she draws upon her background to form opinions. that is expected. what people dont like is that she doesnt see me as a person. i am a "white male" to her. the fact that i am a white male shouldnt affect how she rules.
- DrVic, on 07/15/2009, -2/+13Microcosm of the populace? So why aren't there more teenagers on the bench?
- Scrappy1850, on 07/15/2009, -2/+13she ruled that white firefighters cannot be promoted because the black firefighters couldnt pass the exam. i feel that the best available for the job should get the promotion. that was a racist ruling because she felt that promotions should be based on race and not merit or performance.
- majortom1981, on 07/15/2009, -3/+13Her statement says nothing about her life. She is saying that any latina women had a hard life and that a white male hasnt.
Says nothing about a rich white male. - heybigjohn, on 07/15/2009, -1/+11She didn't just say this one time in one speech. It is a recurring theme of hers in at least six speeches over many years:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/05/sotomayor.s ... - sv650touring, on 07/15/2009, -2/+11I'd say the first comment is pretty racist, and the second comment shows an awareness of racial issues.
- drmangrum, on 07/15/2009, -2/+11The point of those two quote is completely different.
Alito is saying he takes past experience into account when arriving to a decision. Such a thing is implied whether it's spoken or not. All decisions are made through past experiences.
Sotomayor EXPLICITLY stated that her experience are worth more than another persons simply because of her sex and ethnicity compared to anothers sex and ethnicity. That is racist as hell.
If a white judge had something like "I would hope that my rich and varied experiences as a white man would lead me to better decisions and conclusions that a black woman." People would be ALL over that. His career would end right then and there. - inactive, on 07/15/2009, -5/+13Really hope she doesn't get confirmed. I also don't like how the media is going on about "white males grilling a Latina woman." Should they be uncritical of her just because she is a Latina and woman? It's just weird.
- DeviantDragon, on 07/15/2009, -6/+14That's not exactly the same sentiment. One is comparative, the other is just talking about using one's past in one's decision now. Obviously no one is criticizing Sotomeyer for simply looking to her background I think what people take issue with is the fact that she feels that most of the time she'll do better than a white male. While in some cases I think it would be true, I think it doesn't resonate truthfully regarding all issues.
- nepidae, on 07/15/2009, -1/+8Ron Paul is white though.
- inactive, on 07/15/2009, -2/+9Yep. And by nominating a Latina to the Supreme Court due to her race, Obama only perpetuates the artificial divisions that are perceived to exist between races.
- Dustin00, on 07/15/2009, -3/+10These days, it applys to all races: a wise female "whatever" is any girl that gets her degree before having babies.
- zeitgueist, on 07/15/2009, -16/+23Nominee Sotomayor:
""I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life,"
Justice Alito:
"When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account." - Scrappy1850, on 07/15/2009, -0/+7you cant reach judgements on the issues of economy, climate change and healthcare if you only see people as belonging to different races instead of actual people.
- drmangrum, on 07/15/2009, -3/+10I wonder if she still thinks of herself as wise after having made that comment.
- inactive, on 07/15/2009, -1/+7Five lines of writing, and you didn't make a single sound argument.
I'll tell you what we can do to make this country better:
Not confirm a racist, sexist Supreme Court nominee. - Bloodwine, on 07/15/2009, -2/+8I know you are joking, but unfortunately there are a lot of (mostly younger) people that truly believe that. I'm not sure if it is due to the media or our education system.
- Hetman, on 07/15/2009, -2/+8For god sakes there is not such thing as reverse racism. Something is either racist or it is not racist. It is very simple.
- inactive, on 07/15/2009, -3/+9I don't care what your experiences are. You simply don't say that your race is better than another. To make such a statement is an admission that you are too biased to serve as a Supreme Court justice.
- freakincampers, on 07/15/2009, -2/+7But her scripted reply to yesterdays softball question says different.
- ikzeidegek, on 07/15/2009, -1/+6I think that in a perfect world, judges should not let their politics guide their decisions. Scalia will always take an extreme right wing position. Now, we get someone added who - unless all the signs deceive us - will always take left wing positions.
Can't a president ever appoint a *real* judge for a change? - DarkShroud, on 07/15/2009, -5/+10Different perspective is one thing. The issue that many people have is the way she worded it. Had a White Male said that they would be labeled a raceist. But only White people can be raceist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAazd7VgrBE - PM08, on 07/15/2009, -6/+11The fact that she is also involved with La Raza (The Race) does not help her fight off these racist chargers either.
- ortzinator, on 07/15/2009, -7/+12Because only White people are racist! Duh!
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